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Liberals If you are ok with with abortion STFU about using gun control to 'save lives'

 
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Abortion isn't 'killing babies'. It's a foetus/fetus, not a fully formed, independent child. Please stop referring to a foetus as a child. It has no scientific basis and is formed entirely on an emotional basis with no rationale.

For the record, I am not overjoyed by the idea of abortions. People should take every precaution necessary when they fuck. There's no such thing as an 'accidental' child in this day and age. Abortion should be the very last thing to consider. Personally, I think it better that a mother terminate a pregnancy than raise a child in squalor or allow a child to be passed around child-molesting foster 'homes'.

I'm also not a liberal and totally in favour of capital punishment.
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^ He's wrong you know..
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50 years ago, a private matter such as an abortion wasn't decent to discuss in public, was indeed punishable if detected - but was relatively often secretly practiced with help of midwives or certain herbs. It was practiced in all cultures, since ancient history. At that time, even the only available form of birth control. Lots of women died from these procedures. I guess this would be another reason that lead to the rise of feminism. Women were economically totally dependent on men, who had to support them and usually a bunch of children. If it was already a struggle for them, women felt there's no alternative than get an abortion rather than seeing already overworked husband work himself into an early grave to try and feed the X-teenth child. And I agree that, eventually, feminism took things way overboard - what do you expect from a bunch of women. tomato But the basic reasoning for the rise of feminism is solid IMO.

Yeah, good ole days!
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Dearie the people that even attempted to get abortions in the past was a extremely small minority of women.It was extremely frowned upon ins society,and only 'uncouth' people got them and supported them.

Though you may try to delude yourself there has been a surge of enlightenment that has allowed progressivism to flourish in these last 50 yrs,you would be mistaken.

All that has happened is that elitests have pushed their immoral agenda's on the masses until here in 2013,they are largely accepted.worse yet the liberals that parrot them word for word are fooled into thinking they are being all cool,hip,enlightened,and intellectual,by pushing them.

But in reality the elites see you merely as 'useful idiots',that widely continue to spread their lies and delusions.That would include feminism.

Now what if men were intended by God to be the heads and take care of the women.Rather then the women themselves becoming more masculine and aggressive like males.

Feminism has made many women more butch,and made liberal men into feminine wuss bag apologetics.

Effectively confusing gender roles.This is unnatural and has greatly effected man/woman relationships and made them very dysfunctional.This along with dehumanizing humans with atheism/evolution and destroying the original meanings of marriages,has led to much of the divorces,infidelity,etc that is seen today
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We see you as an idiot but not useful
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Neck beards back!
No you're still not an amazing intellectual by repeating your programming,like a good little boy/girl.

Go get all your pouting out of your system,and then we'l talk.
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funny, you spew "religious" nursery rhyme fantasy and you call me indoctrinated.

the dumbass is strong in this one
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Dearie the people that even attempted to get abortions in the past was a extremely small minority of women.It was extremely frowned upon ins society,and only 'uncouth' people got them and supported them.

Though you may try to delude yourself there has been a surge of enlightenment that has allowed progressivism to flourish in these last 50 yrs,you would be mistaken.

All that has happened is that elitests have pushed their immoral agenda's on the masses until here in 2013,they are largely accepted.worse yet the liberals that parrot them word for word are fooled into thinking they are being all cool,hip,enlightened,and intellectual,by pushing them.

But in reality the elites see you merely as 'useful idiots',that widely continue to spread their lies and delusions.That would include feminism.

Now what if men were intended by God to be the heads and take care of the women.Rather then the women themselves becoming more masculine and aggressive like males.

Feminism has made many women more butch,and made liberal men into feminine wuss bag apologetics.

Effectively confusing gender roles.This is unnatural and has greatly effected man/woman relationships and made them very dysfunctional.This along with dehumanizing humans with atheism/evolution and destroying the original meanings of marriages,has led to much of the divorces,infidelity,etc that is seen today
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We see you as an idiot but not useful
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Neck beards back!
No you're still not an amazing intellectual by repeating your programming,like a good little boy/girl.

Go get all your pouting out of your system,and then we'l talk.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51480550


funny, you spew "religious" nursery rhyme fantasy and you call me indoctrinated.

the dumbass is strong in this one
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47867061


Wowzers!
Neckbeard libtard has an ego that just won't quit.
Why is my God nursery rhyme nonsense?
Oh because the globalist shills told ya so?
LOL good one fella!!

Come back when you no longer think the universe revolves around your inflated head.If there's one thing you can count on from liberals it's too much narcissism.
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Re: Liberals If you are ok with with abortion STFU about using gun control to 'save lives'
Dearie the people that even attempted to get abortions in the past was a extremely small minority of women.It was extremely frowned upon ins society,and only 'uncouth' people got them and supported them.

Though you may try to delude yourself there has been a surge of enlightenment that has allowed progressivism to flourish in these last 50 yrs,you would be mistaken.

All that has happened is that elitests have pushed their immoral agenda's on the masses until here in 2013,they are largely accepted.worse yet the liberals that parrot them word for word are fooled into thinking they are being all cool,hip,enlightened,and intellectual,by pushing them.

But in reality the elites see you merely as 'useful idiots',that widely continue to spread their lies and delusions.That would include feminism.

Now what if men were intended by God to be the heads and take care of the women.Rather then the women themselves becoming more masculine and aggressive like males.

Feminism has made many women more butch,and made liberal men into feminine wuss bag apologetics.

Effectively confusing gender roles.This is unnatural and has greatly effected man/woman relationships and made them very dysfunctional.This along with dehumanizing humans with atheism/evolution and destroying the original meanings of marriages,has led to much of the divorces,infidelity,etc that is seen today
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51480550


For something that was supposedly so rarely practiced it was sure talked about a lot.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It was not only frowned upon, it was punishable even at one time but that doesn't mean it wasn't practiced illegally, hence all the historical archives. You think 50 years ago any woman would dare to say publically that they got an abortion? How fast can you say lynch mob?

I see progress in a way how minorities are treated. If you have dreamt to be a male slave owner then I guess it's all gone awry for you. I'm not even saying that women or other previously oppressed groups don't sometimes "schlepp" themselves on account of them or their ancestors being oppressed. But human being is a human being and should have equal rights and obligations.

It's so nice of you to worry about me being used as an useful idiot, thank you! hf
I will extend you the same courtesy and warn you that you may be used in someone else's agenda too.

And don't worry I'm way past that superficial stuff - appearing to be hip & cool & intellectual. All I know I have brains to think for myself, whether they work right or not it exceeds my control - but I'm not taking pre-digested chicken feed from politicians and other people with agendas
- I'm not some blind leftist parrot, which sadly there are many.redface

Feminism has some bad points, sure, but there are some good points too. My dad told me about his neighbour's grandfather - he beat his wife regularly for no reason, otherwise a respected Christian - didn't like dinner she made him, plate was set wrong, the shirt wasn't ironed the right way, you name it. She had nowhere to go unless she abandoned their children and go work as a hooker. Thirty years of fear and suffering, imagine that.

Being a housewife and a mother is also not for everybody, so people should have the right to choose. Of course it's harder today with the economy but not impossible.

Also being an atheist does not necessarily mean the person has no moral standards. Look at Scandinavians (although they could be eventually dragged down by the lax attitude of some of the immigrants who are mostly religious fanatics)
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Take notes AC 47867061,you might learn something useful for once.
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Re: Liberals If you are ok with with abortion STFU about using gun control to 'save lives'
A "fetus" can survive outside the womb as early as 24 weeks. It can be very capable of retaining its independence and leading a healthy life, if given the chance. Just because it fails to meet the criteria of being fully formed doesn't mean it's an inanimate object prior to birth.

I do agree though, if I woman can't have jurisdiction over her body, who knows what the next step would be as far as restricting "rights" is concerned.
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What stage of "fetus" can survive out of the womb?
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Are this stupid? No really are you...you say men should have vasectomies to prevent pregnancy and I say how about having a hysterectomy for the same reason. And then you call me stupid????

Double omg...can't cure stupid....
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You aren't even following the thread so you just go spewing senseless insults. FAIL knockout
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So I should just accept insults without responding?

I didn't know that....

You are almost as stupid as the other one...not quite though.
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You liar! Where did I insult you in my posts? Show me. That's right. NOWHERE. Yet you run your vile mouth like diarrhea.

YOU>>>>blahblah5
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This thread isn't about you, but as is typical of a leftist shit-head you are trying to make it so...

Get over your evil little self and....815 moron to bead "mom" didn't have second thoughts about you...
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Dearie the people that even attempted to get abortions in the past was a extremely small minority of women.It was extremely frowned upon ins society,and only 'uncouth' people got them and supported them.

Though you may try to delude yourself there has been a surge of enlightenment that has allowed progressivism to flourish in these last 50 yrs,you would be mistaken.

All that has happened is that elitests have pushed their immoral agenda's on the masses until here in 2013,they are largely accepted.worse yet the liberals that parrot them word for word are fooled into thinking they are being all cool,hip,enlightened,and intellectual,by pushing them.

But in reality the elites see you merely as 'useful idiots',that widely continue to spread their lies and delusions.That would include feminism.

Now what if men were intended by God to be the heads and take care of the women.Rather then the women themselves becoming more masculine and aggressive like males.

Feminism has made many women more butch,and made liberal men into feminine wuss bag apologetics.

Effectively confusing gender roles.This is unnatural and has greatly effected man/woman relationships and made them very dysfunctional.This along with dehumanizing humans with atheism/evolution and destroying the original meanings of marriages,has led to much of the divorces,infidelity,etc that is seen today
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51480550


For something that was supposedly so rarely practiced it was sure talked about a lot.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

It was not only frowned upon, it was punishable even at one time but that doesn't mean it wasn't practiced illegally, hence all the historical archives. You think 50 years ago any woman would dare to say publically that they got an abortion? How fast can you say lynch mob?

I see progress in a way how minorities are treated. If you have dreamt to be a male slave owner then I guess it's all gone awry for you. I'm not even saying that women or other previously oppressed groups don't sometimes "schlepp" themselves on account of them or their ancestors being oppressed. But human being is a human being and should have equal rights and obligations.

It's so nice of you to worry about me being used as an useful idiot, thank you! hf
I will extend you the same courtesy and warn you that you may be used in someone else's agenda too.

And don't worry I'm way past that superficial stuff - appearing to be hip & cool & intellectual. All I know I have brains to think for myself, whether they work right or not it exceeds my control - but I'm not taking pre-digested chicken feed from politicians and other people with agendas
- I'm not some blind leftist parrot, which sadly there are many.redface

Feminism has some bad points, sure, but there are some good points too. My dad told me about his neighbour's grandfather - he beat his wife regularly for no reason, otherwise a respected Christian - didn't like dinner she made him, plate was set wrong, the shirt wasn't ironed the right way, you name it. She had nowhere to go unless she abandoned their children and go work as a hooker. Thirty years of fear and suffering, imagine that.

Being a housewife and a mother is also not for everybody, so people should have the right to choose. Of course it's harder today with the economy but not impossible.

Also being an atheist does not necessarily mean the person has no moral standards. Look at Scandinavians (although they could be eventually dragged down by the lax attitude of some of the immigrants who are mostly religious fanatics)
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Someone just doesn't get it.
You can't understand the vast difference between something being 'talked about' in 1940,and 'widely accepted' in 2013?
Something else common sense that has to be explained to leftists.

Oh resorting to talking about husbands slapping their women around to show how bad the old ways were.Yeah thats totally original.This might be shocking to you,but a man can lead and be in the dominant position of the relationship without screaming at and slapping his wife around.Also common sense.
No one has usually ever stopped women from choosing who they marry in this country.So what you mean by 'freedom to choose' I have no idea.
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Re: Liberals If you are ok with with abortion STFU about using gun control to 'save lives'
A "fetus" can survive outside the womb as early as 24 weeks. It can be very capable of retaining its independence and leading a healthy life, if given the chance. Just because it fails to meet the criteria of being fully formed doesn't mean it's an inanimate object prior to birth.

I do agree though, if I woman can't have jurisdiction over her body, who knows what the next step would be as far as restricting "rights" is concerned.
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What stage of "fetus" can survive out of the womb?
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What gives a mere human the authority to decide if unborn human needs to live or die?
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Dumbass Nazis aren't happy unless they're running other people's lives at gunpoint.blahblah5
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blahblah5 blahblah5 blahblah5 blahblah5

^Typical tonguetied feminist libtard herds when you poke many holes in their emotionally based arguments,and counter it with truth and logic

How can we be nazi's?
you're the ones running the concentration camps for the unborn

cruise norespect
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You fucking No-Brain NEO-NAZI, you walk in lockstep with all the other Gun Tards who want to trample on everyone else's rights and call it freedom. YOU should be ashamed of your fucking self and YES abortion does serve a purpose for people like you who sit up in the mountains of Arkansas and inbreed with each other and have HORRIBLE babies with unspeakable birth defects, just like your birth defect of not having a brain.

Who the fuck are you to talk about concentration camps and holes in arguments when your head is full of holes like swiss cheese!!!!

You fucking backwoods redn eck retard oooh you give me shivers thinking about people like you.
norespect
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Re: Liberals If you are ok with with abortion STFU about using gun control to 'save lives'
Then you agree that your mothers choose to give birth to you and not abort?

Would you be alright if they decided to abort you?

In order to support the idea of having the ability to terminate a fetus, (what all humans were at one point), then you should be an advocate of your own termination.....that would be truly "fair".

I've met many people that are happy they weren't aborted.
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OOh this one really pisses me off. That and "the innocent children" myth - the truth is that we're born cruel and selfish and have yet to be instilled moral values upon!

Nobody had the courtesy to ask me if I wanted to come to this green shit stain commonly known as Earth. Nobody! Yet here I am, and this shit is gettin' pretty old since my teen years. I wouldn't blame my mom if she aborted me (not that I would have this ability if I didn't exist), in fact comes the right time I'll gladly abort myself from this world. How's that then?
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A "fetus" can survive outside the womb as early as 24 weeks. It can be very capable of retaining its independence and leading a healthy life, if given the chance. Just because it fails to meet the criteria of being fully formed doesn't mean it's an inanimate object prior to birth.

I do agree though, if I woman can't have jurisdiction over her body, who knows what the next step would be as far as restricting "rights" is concerned.
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What stage of "fetus" can survive out of the womb?
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What gives a mere human the authority to decide if unborn human needs to live or die?
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God gave freewill to mankind.

you dont like it, bring it up with him.
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What gives a mere human the authority to decide if unborn human needs to live or die?
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The same authority that gives humans control over animals, probably.
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Give the guns up come on, There is a new nutter blasting down civilians buy the truck load with a fully auto gun every month. You don't need fully automatic rifles to defend yourself, last time I checked one bullet from a small firearm is enough to take down just about anyone. You don't need 30 rounds of burst fire destruction, easily accessible to allmost anyone in American. In Australia all were allowed is semi - automatic firearms and the gun crime is almost rare. except for the bikers who are importing illegal firearms anyway. The norm in Australia is to King Hit someone to death, so you see we can still kill each other off with out fire arms.
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If feminist whores want to go liberal just because they get butthurt about getting called out on murdering their young,then so be it.

Feminism is another globalist shit agenda that needs to die already.It has not been about equal rights for years.Merely another way to get special privileges,confuse gender roles,and other dumb crap liberalism is famous for.
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It's not Feminism, women have been entrusted to bear children, so they are entrusted to make the decision to have any or not. It's THEIR call. Leave women to their women things, and you men do your man things. You call THAT Feminism?
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Lol no..it's feminism and other assorted globalist horseshit that has led you until this conclusion.

If the elitest shits hadn't been feeding their progressive lies to the public for 50 years,you would likely be just as appalled at abortion as most of our grandparents.

As you would gay marriage,gun control,etc and other assorted agendas they've been heavily pushing since the 1960's,and that were heavily opposed before that decade.

You people are trying SO hard to convince yourselves this is an enlightened and common sense mindset.But the fact remains it is in reality,merely an agenda that you were gradually conditioned to accept along with the other masses.
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You are forgetting about the individual. You blame the Elitists, but you forget that Abortion and things like Gay Marriage are the decision of an individual. Most people that make decisions like those could give a shit less what the Elite are doing. Just like the right to own a firearm should be the decision of an individual. But you want to control 1 or 2, but want freedom of another.
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clappa

FOUR! pages of this gibberish (and apparently six more hence) and FINALLY a voice of reason upon the virtual land.
Methinks OP is a blustery verbal bully (a very skilled one at that) where it has taken four pages for the rights of the individual to finally be mentioned. I give OP an 'A' for bullyistic effort. On the recognition of RIGHTS OF THE INDIVIDUAL, OP you fail. As Im speaking way back on page 4, I look forward to seeing how your arguments develop, or more likely, devolve......
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i support gun rights, death penalty and self defense but leave abortion up to women.
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Be very very careful, for you are one who has reasoned things out on your own. You (as am I) will be made to struggle for doing that.....
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Dumbass Nazis aren't happy unless they're running other people's lives at gunpoint.blahblah5
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blahblah5 blahblah5 blahblah5 blahblah5

^Typical tonguetied feminist libtard herds when you poke many holes in their emotionally based arguments,and counter it with truth and logic

How can we be nazi's?
you're the ones running the concentration camps for the unborn

cruise norespect
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51480550


You fucking No-Brain NEO-NAZI, you walk in lockstep with all the other Gun Tards who want to trample on everyone else's rights and call it freedom. YOU should be ashamed of your fucking self and YES abortion does serve a purpose for people like you who sit up in the mountains of Arkansas and inbreed with each other and have HORRIBLE babies with unspeakable birth defects, just like your birth defect of not having a brain.

Who the fuck are you to talk about concentration camps and holes in arguments when your head is full of holes like swiss cheese!!!!

You fucking backwoods redn eck retard oooh you give me shivers thinking about people like you.
norespect
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blahblah5blahblah5blahblah5blahblah5
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Shhhh I already told you libtard....
Shut down those concentration camps for the unborn before you start calling others nazi's.That way you don't looked like a completely deluded dum dum to everyone else,except your leftist circle jerk buddies

cruisecruiseweirdoweirdo
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How about the man taking responsibility for his own actions and getting a vasectomy?
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If its the woman's right to choose to murder a fetus then it is her obligation to not get pregnant in the first place.

Your logic is flawed.
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You are outdated. Gone are the days when they only spayed female dogs and left the male intact just because the female is the one who can get pregnant. Today they neuter the males as well because of the simple fact that the males sow their seed everywhere.

You should be next. grinning

How's THAT logic working out for you? neener2
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Humans are not dogs. We don't keep humans in our back yard feeding off of kibble. (most of us don't).

That's the difference. Ultimately it is the female who decides.

I mean if a male dog goes and forcefully fucks a female dog without her consent are we gonna put the dog on trial for rape?

Big difference between dogs and humans.
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Oh, your argument would be so very tight but for the oodles and oodles of instances where "No" was not taken to really (no, really?) mean "No". If waz da girlz humpin da boyz your argument might just float. But, alas, she be sinkin, donchya know?
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Re: Liberals If you are ok with with abortion STFU about using gun control to 'save lives'
Someone just doesn't get it.
You can't understand the vast difference between something being 'talked about' in 1940,and 'widely accepted' in 2013?
Something else common sense that has to be explained to leftists.

Oh resorting to talking about husbands slapping their women around to show how bad the old ways were.Yeah thats totally original.This might be shocking to you,but a man can lead and be in the dominant position of the relationship without screaming at and slapping his wife around.Also common sense.
No one has usually ever stopped women from choosing who they marry in this country.So what you mean by 'freedom to choose' I have no idea.
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Except it was talked or rather written about only because it was also practiced (back to 2600 BC). I'm sure you can imagine it wasn't exactly US election time back then so it wasn't a political debate between democraps and republicunts but rather a medical/philosophical/religious issue. And come on, widely accepted? There are clear prejudices against women who go under the procedure, by libtards and conservatards alike. Some women (celebrities) went public with it - for shock value if not for other reasons but it always backfires. Abortion is not something that is taken lightly, not even in 2013!

My anecdote was there for an illustation what sometimes power over another human being brings. Freedom to choose - I meant that women should be economically independent in the sense that they have an option in case of domestic abuse. Sure, you're free to marry whomever you choose, but I'm sure you've heard that one about the wife who turned into lazy pig after marriage. Well, the same goes for that man, he turned into a violent boar.

I know there were good marriages too but as a woman if your luck ran out you had nowhere to go. I'm not saying everything is better, but that particular part is better. Unless you're a violent tyrant of course. Also, this might be cultural difference, but around here, men are proud if their wives have a successful career of their own. Happy wife happy life.
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To the women who chose abortion, THANK YOU for not adding to the world's problems. Thank you for reducing poverty, government dependence and crime rates. And thank you for not further overtaxing earth's dwindling resources.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38319796


Translation: "thank you for furthering our globalist masters depopulation agenda.

Watch me pretend to be so smart and enlightened as I recite their marching orders word for word,while pretending it's my own wit and intellect"
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Ya, that depopulation agenda is REALLY workin for them. I went to the Louvre on an autumn weekday this year, and there were more peeps than on the summer weekend day I last went 30 years ago..... If the elitists are looking at abortion as the method to depopulate, then, well FAIL! Big Boys! Kinda like your heavy-handed phi-low-so-phi there OP....
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Re: Liberals If you are ok with with abortion STFU about using gun control to 'save lives'
I see myself as very PRO-CHOICE. Unless you're mentally incapable of understanding how babies are made. YOU have the freedom of CHOICE whether or not to engage in the activity that promotes the creation of life. If one willing engages then one must be willing to accept what comes with said CHOICE.
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Biggest load of BS ever foisted on womankind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38319796


I know right?
Asking people to take responsibility for their own sex lives is soooooooo unfair.

How dare you ruin my sex escapdes with the burden of taking care of a baby.Damn conservative nazi slave drivers!


Lol but no...just no.
Having a baby and having to take care of it would probably be the best thing to ever happen to feminists and other assorted progressive libtards.

It would probably learn them the only sense of responsibility they would have ever learned otherwise.

Nor being able to play on xbox all day in the basement while you live on welfare checks,and your parents obammercare insurance until 26 will be a good wakeup call.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51480550


Do you KNOW any women OP?! Hmmmm.....I know some pretty irresponsible womenfolk, but they sure aren't playin the Xbox in the basement......
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Re: Liberals If you are ok with with abortion STFU about using gun control to 'save lives'
Guns, in my estimation and for my own use, are for self-defense, not predatory action.

And re: abortion - I will not argue science with anyone. I will share this, when I was pregnant, I was 'invited' to abort. I did not.

Needless to say, I am happy that I did not even consider it and I am sure my issue is grateful as well.

It is between me and God, as it should be with anyone.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


Thank you Ms. Superduper for your voice of reason in this maelstrom of hyperbole. You live up to your name today.
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Re: Liberals If you are ok with with abortion STFU about using gun control to 'save lives'
Remember, libs think that a baby has no soul for the first three months after birth. To them, it is just a tissue mass that can be disposed of at-will.
 Quoting: Wookiee666


God, doesn't have a problem with abortion - or ordering the death of women and children. Why should you?
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Yi, yi, yi... Someone has been literally reading the OT again....
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It's not Feminism, women have been entrusted to bear children, so they are entrusted to make the decision to have any or not. It's THEIR call. Leave women to their women things, and you men do your man things. You call THAT Feminism?
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Lol no..it's feminism and other assorted globalist horseshit that has led you until this conclusion.

If the elitest shits hadn't been feeding their progressive lies to the public for 50 years,you would likely be just as appalled at abortion as most of our grandparents.

As you would gay marriage,gun control,etc and other assorted agendas they've been heavily pushing since the 1960's,and that were heavily opposed before that decade.

You people are trying SO hard to convince yourselves this is an enlightened and common sense mindset.But the fact remains it is in reality,merely an agenda that you were gradually conditioned to accept along with the other masses.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51480550


You are forgetting about the individual. You blame the Elitists, but you forget that Abortion and things like Gay Marriage are the decision of an individual. Most people that make decisions like those could give a shit less what the Elite are doing. Just like the right to own a firearm should be the decision of an individual. But you want to control 1 or 2, but want freedom of another.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51597151


clappa

FOUR! pages of this gibberish (and apparently six more hence) and FINALLY a voice of reason upon the virtual land.
Methinks OP is a blustery verbal bully (a very skilled one at that) where it has taken four pages for the rights of the individual to finally be mentioned. I give OP an 'A' for bullyistic effort. On the recognition of RIGHTS OF THE INDIVIDUAL, OP you fail. As Im speaking way back on page 4, I look forward to seeing how your arguments develop, or more likely, devolve......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51514619


It's a 'voice of reason' because they echo your dumb opinion,not because it is a logical argument.

First of all the right to own guns was endowed from the very foundation of this country.So don't sully it's importance by comparing it to modern globalist pushed trash like gay pride and abortion.There simply is no comparison,and any attempts to argue other wise are signs of mental illness.

A womans supposed 'right' to terminate their young,shits all over one of the most important tenants of the founding documents.Namely the right to 'life'...the life of the unborn.

For most of history women have given birth normally to their young.Some of them indeed dying in the process.Yet suddenly within the last 50 years you pop in with this liberal shit, and try to laughingly claim it's an essential right?
No..it's not!

Were moist abortions about health complications,incest and rape you might have a bit more of an argument.But facts are that 75% or more of these abortions are carried out purely as a matter of convenience.You people are full of yourselves.Who gave you the authority to trample over the rights of the unborn for your own selfishness?

And as for gay pride..lol..give me a break.It's a mental sexual defect just like pedophilia,bestiality,and necrophilia.All are a mental sickness.the only difference being the object of attraction the mental illness gives the person.

Are we celebrating OCD,aspergets,ADHD,pedophilia,or bestiality?Don't we give therapy,medication,and in some cases criminal charges in response for some of these defects?So how come we celebrate homosexuality instead of trying to find ways to treat or cure it?

Now homosexuality would not be criminal as it is between two consenting adults.However it is a mental illness all the same in the end.It is not to be held in high regard,or specially catered to.

Many of us simply do not want these dirty practices presented to our kids in society as though it were normal,and not abnormal or deprived.
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Remember, libs think that a baby has no soul for the first three months after birth. To them, it is just a tissue mass that can be disposed of at-will.
 Quoting: Wookiee666


Absolutely..and humans are just another animal.
the liberals have irrefutable evidence to prove this.
the shills and textbooks told them so
Lolollololol
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And your imaginary boogie man in the sky told YOU otherwise, right? Talk about LOLOLOLOLOLOL
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38319796


My skydaddys writings were around long before your NWO pushed progressive crap bubba.Guess which one I'm banking on?

Sorry but things can exist without the textbooks and shills in white lab coats telling you so first.Shocking I know!
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Your skydaddy?! Well there you are OP.... Whose to say Amahd's skydaddy or Ulthred's skydaddy or Omygaruh's skydaddy has the most up to date manual on this, hmm? I will give you one thing: I wont agree with Bush or Kissinger's skydaddy (even if you think that's just what Im doing). Cheers!
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Shhhh I already told you libtard....
Shut down those concentration camps for the unborn before you start calling others nazi's.That way you don't looked like a completely deluded dum dum to everyone else,except your leftist circle jerk buddies

cruisecruiseweirdoweirdo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51480550


So, OP, it's been 10 pages and counting, have you decided on your stance on animal rights yet? Ready to receive vegan badge of honour?



I have some "meat is murder" brochures here and some red paint...

Tick-tock.


cruise cruise
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Pro choice punks hate being compared to nazi's,because it touches quite the nerve.

They just can't accept the truth that the state has coerced them into believing a blatant lie

That the globalists have found a way to peddle rampant immorality to the masses gradually,and make it seem acceptable
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51480550


please prove how an developing baby can exist on its own and therefore make its own choices.

then once you fail in that, explain why you should have the right to make its decisions and the mother/fathers decisions for them?

youre sounding awfully liberal son
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47867061


I seriously can't believe there are people as insane as you, woman were giving the blessing of bringing new life into this world, once that life has been created it is no longer their choice the new life living inside them is not theirs to decide if it lives or dies. If they kill it, it is murder simple as that.

You attempt to say since the new life requires the mother (host) to survive then it therefore somehow is not a life. I ask you, if you put a one day old baby outside or even inside alone will it survive? No it will die, so you agree killing any child that can not support itself! A truly sick mindset.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34593911


Logical fallacy. A baby can be cared by any caregiver, male or female. A fetus depends only on its host.
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Thank you AC. This is the most succinct yet comprehensive post on the topic. Miles Davis, when asked what he listened for in his own music said, "THe notes I can leave out." AC, Miles Davis would be proud.
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Re: Liberals If you are ok with with abortion STFU about using gun control to 'save lives'
Then you agree that your mothers choose to give birth to you and not abort?

Would you be alright if they decided to abort you?

In order to support the idea of having the ability to terminate a fetus, (what all humans were at one point), then you should be an advocate of your own termination.....that would be truly "fair".

I've met many people that are happy they weren't aborted.
 Quoting: Carpet Gnome

OOh this one really pisses me off. That and "the innocent children" myth - the truth is that we're born cruel and selfish and have yet to be instilled moral values upon!

Nobody had the courtesy to ask me if I wanted to come to this green shit stain commonly known as Earth. Nobody! Yet here I am, and this shit is gettin' pretty old since my teen years. I wouldn't blame my mom if she aborted me (not that I would have this ability if I didn't exist), in fact comes the right time I'll gladly abort myself from this world. How's that then?
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So in other words since you are mentally scarred and bitter,you want to take that out on the unborn.All while claiming 'it's for their own good to never live' as a justification for your depravity
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Re: Liberals If you are ok with with abortion STFU about using gun control to 'save lives'
Shhhh I already told you libtard....
Shut down those concentration camps for the unborn before you start calling others nazi's.That way you don't looked like a completely deluded dum dum to everyone else,except your leftist circle jerk buddies

cruisecruiseweirdoweirdo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51480550


So, OP, it's been 10 pages and counting, have you decided on your stance on animal rights yet? Ready to receive vegan badge of honour?



I have some "meat is murder" brochures here and some red paint...

Tick-tock.


cruise cruise
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51591094


I think I've made it clear several times that I hold humans in far higher esteem and importance,then I do poor widdle furries in the slaughter house.

Normal people are like that.
The mentally ill like you however (mostly libtards)think humans are just equal to animals,and sometimes even below them in importance.Especially the unborn whose dissection in the womb,you coldly talk about as though you were cutting up a thanksgiving roast.


Liberals sound more sociopathic all the time.





GLP