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Very Important Info for Caregives in the US Regarding Affordable Care Act

 
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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OP is an attention whore.

Either help, or don't for fuck's sake.
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I shared the info after only two posts because it's very imporant info for caregivers, and is about health coverage under the ACA for csregivers whose paymnts are considered foster care (see IRS Code 131 for detaails), but you and one other person are obviously too lazy to read a few posts.

I wanted people to show interest because I had ALREADY provided this very info in another previous thread but it got ignored and buried without a single reply. I also posted a second thread along with this one(same time frame) telling everyone that the info is posted now and to just scroll down in this thread, so if yo missed it read the thread again and quit accusing people before you get your facts straight.
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Glad to help and hope this info helps people understand their payments for providing care for ceratin foster care individuals (see IRS Code 131) are excludable as income. I got one of my sisters over $5,00 back from the IRS (plus interest) for taxes she wasn't required to pay for caring for her adult developmentally disab
ed daughter in her home (my sister's home), and helped an attorney recover three years of taxes (don't know how much she got, just provided the tax info to her) for a similar situation.

I know tht many people (and many state governments) don't realize that the paymemts Medicaid pays to providers of in-home care are generally foster care payments and excludable as income. For purposes of expanded Medicaid eligibility, this is important because these payments cannot be used for your Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) calculations to determine eligibility for healthcare coverage. Research: MAGI ACA, IRS Code 131, and check your state to see if it is an expanded Medicaid state as they will have to comply with the new MAGI methodology and excluded foster care payments.
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Glad to help and hope this info helps people understand their payments for providing care for ceratin foster care individuals (see IRS Code 131) are excludable as income. I got one of my sisters over $5,00 back from the IRS (plus interest) for taxes she wasn't required to pay for caring for her adult developmentally disab
ed daughter in her home (my sister's home), and helped an attorney recover three years of taxes (don't know how much she got, just provided the tax info to her) for a similar situation.

I know tht many people (and many state governments) don't realize that the paymemts Medicaid pays to providers of in-home care are generally foster care payments and excludable as income. For purposes of expanded Medicaid eligibility, this is important because these payments cannot be used for your Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) calculations to determine eligibility for healthcare coverage. Research: MAGI ACA, IRS Code 131, and check your state to see if it is an expanded Medicaid state as they will have to comply with the new MAGI methodology and excluded foster care payments.
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That was supposed to read:
I got one of my sisters over $5,000.00(five thousand dollars) back from the IRS (plus interest)
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I care for my handicapped son, what states are you talking about? He has been on SSI since 8 yrs old. I lived in Ohio up till 5 yrs ago and got nothing no programs nothing for handicapped people he is now 46 and Hawaii pays for 24 hrs of direct service worker time a week, would love to know if there are more I could get for him
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I just checked Hawaii and they are expanding Medicaid so this could benefit you and your son going forward as their programs and benefits should increase.

[link to www.medicaid.gov]
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I care for my handicapped son, what states are you talking about? He has been on SSI since 8 yrs old. I lived in Ohio up till 5 yrs ago and got nothing no programs nothing for handicapped people he is now 46 and Hawaii pays for 24 hrs of direct service worker time a week, would love to know if there are more I could get for him
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I just checked Hawaii and they are expanding Medicaid so this could benefit you and your son going forward as their programs and benefits should increase.

[link to www.medicaid.gov]
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If the state pays you to provide in-home care for your adult son through a Medicaid waiver program for example, those payments are considered qualified foster care payments and should be excludable from your income calculataions for the expanded Medicaid which could provvide you with the mandated Affordable Health Care healthcare coverage. In other words, you may qualif separately as well. Contact your Medicaid office.
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OP is an attention whore.

Either help, or don't for fuck's sake.
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SHAME ON YOU for being such a mean negative person, to someone that IS sharing information...to HELP others.
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Sorry, I have to agree. Share the info and stop making demands. After all, if only ONE person is helped, isn't that enough?
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Setting conditions does not equate to a demand. I had alreay provided the info in another thread and people ignored it so I wanted to make sure people were interested. I did A LOT of research and this could help lots of people, but I wanted to share it with interested parties who could benefit from it,
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12/17/2013 12:39 AM
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I want to thank you so much, OP. You have helped a lot of people who need and deserve it.:phf:
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I want to thank you so much, OP. You have helped a lot of people who need and deserve it.:phf:
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Glad to help. As a caregiver for my developmentally disabled sister for 14 years, I do a lot of advocating for not only the disabled, but caregicers who too often don't get any care or respite and end up disabled themselves.

Surprisingly, attorneys, CPAs, and some state governemts don't always know about the tax laws that benefit caregivers (i.e. IRS Code 131), and even more concerning, is the providers themselves possibly not knowing these laws and possibly paying taxes they aren't required to pay or not availing themselves of services they qualify for.
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Hope you have a peaceful and beautiful Christmas.:hicany:
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Please post any/all info and reference info you can offer. My ex wife is in exactly this situation and it is costing her a fortune to pay for a disabled adult child. She desperately needs help with him and has no idea of where/how to find it.
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First of all your state must hae opted for the expanded Medicaid for this to apply. Secondly, you must be providing in-home care in your own home (unless your state includes the care recipient's home as does my state), and you must be receiving payments for providing cre for the disabled person or even an adult elderly (other ategories of cared-for adults may apply as well as regular foster care for children), for this information to be of use to you.

No.1 The Affordable Care Act is based on "taxable income"

IRS Code 131 Certain Foster Care Payments Title 26 US Code, provides that foster care payments to providers of foster care are not to be included in gross income and are excludable as income. You are not required to report this income to the IRS as it is not taxable.

No.2 Based on the new MAGI (Modified Adjusted Gross Income), methodology that mandates that all states that have opted to expand their Medicaid programs have to adhere to the new MAGI methodology, states must therefore exclude your foster care payments from your Affordable Care Act Medicaid eligibility calculations. You have no income for that purpose. See my related post that got not even one bit of interest here:

Thread: Does anyone here provide foster care for adult disabled person in their home?

Upon further research into my state's eligibility for the previous state insurance (that I will lose at the end of this month), I have determined that I should have never been charged a monthly premium as my foster care payments were required to be excluded from my eligibility determination, but it was instead erroneously considered 'income' contrary to federal and state law. I fully expect to be refunded the $95.00 per month for the four+ years I paid that monthly premium, (not that I minded that payment as I have full comprehensive insurance that had very cheap co-pays that I describe in that post). I also fully expect to qualify for the new expanded Medicaid in my state which currently is simply continuing the insurance MCO coverage that was in place for the aforementioned health plan I'm on that was due to terminate. Pays to do research-which I enjoy and excel at.

I hope the mods pin this as I will not be monitoring this post. Too disappointed that no one seems interested in truly useful and helpful info on GLP on the so called Obama care.

I didn't like the idea of this ACA myself, but will be taking full advantage of the law to my own benefit since I can do nothing about it being enacted. Educate yourselves. Google MAGI and look for states that have published their MAGI methodology like Massachusetts for instance which clearly excluded foster care payments to providers of foster care. Research IRS Code 131.
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MORE INFO:
In addition to Expanded Medicaid states being required to only use taxable income (with minor exceptionS), for ACa MAGI eligility calculations, nOw there is no longer an asset test as in most low income program elegibility calculations for programs such as SNAP, TANF, LIHEAP, and CHIP. or whatever the Medicaid funded low income programs are called in your state.

For example if someone has received or receives a monetary gift from a family member, that no longer is reqired to be considered a financial resource or factored in to your includabble iincome or resources. Everyone should read the pdf linked below and see what is being made available to low income and caregiver situations in their given state.

Btw, I see the complainers still haven't read the information I provided or theyre simply just complainers, and ungrateful ones at that...
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[link to www.cbpp.org]
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Please post any/all info and reference info you can offer.
MORE INFO:
In addition to Expanded Medicaid states being required to only use taxable income (with minor exceptionS), for ACa MAGI eligility calculations, nOw there is no longer an asset test as in most low income program elegibility calculations for programs such as SNAP, TANF, LIHEAP, and CHIP. or whatever the Medicaid funded low income programs are called in your state.

For example if someone has received or receives a monetary gift from a family member, that no longer is reqired to be considered a financial resource or factored in to your includabble iincome or resources. Everyone should read the pdf linked below and see what is being made available to low income and caregiver situations in their given state.

Btw, I see the complainers still haven't read the information I provided or theyre simply just complainers, and ungrateful ones at that...
Summary
[link to www.cbpp.org]
PDF
[link to www.cbpp.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3063399


Find more info on elimination of asset test in majority of states and cases.
[link to itup.org]
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Please post any/all info and reference info you can offer.
MORE INFO:
In addition to Expanded Medicaid states being required to only use taxable income (with minor exceptionS), for ACa MAGI eligility calculations, nOw there is no longer an asset test as in most low income program elegibility calculations for programs such as SNAP, TANF, LIHEAP, and CHIP. or whatever the Medicaid funded low income programs are called in your state.

For example if someone has received or receives a monetary gift from a family member, that no longer is reqired to be considered a financial resource or factored in to your includabble iincome or resources. Everyone should read the pdf linked below and see what is being made available to low income and caregiver situations in their given state.

Btw, I see the complainers still haven't read the information I provided or theyre simply just complainers, and ungrateful ones at that...
Summary
[link to www.cbpp.org]
PDF
[link to www.cbpp.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3063399


Find more info on elimination of asset test in majority of states and cases.
[link to itup.org]
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The Definition of Income Under PPACA
In Section 2002(a) and Section 1401(a) of PPACA, household income is defined to be MAGI in
compliance with the Internal Revenue Code (IRC). Specifically, gross income is total income
minus certain exclusions (e.g., public assistance payments, employer contributions to health
insurance payments). From gross income, adjusted gross income (AGI) is calculated to reflect a
number of deductions, including trade and business deductions, losses from sale of property, and alimony payments. MAGI is defined as AGI plus certain foreign earned income and tax-exempt interest.22 Because AGI (and consequently MAGI) includes only sources of income that are taxable, some sources (or types) of income that may be considered resources for determining whether a person (or couple) is low-income are only partially included, whereas others are not included at all. Two of the sources of income partially included in MAGI that may be considered resources for determining low-income are non-taxable Social Security benefits and non-taxable pension and annuity income. Examples of sources of income that are not included in MAGI are fringe benefits, cafeteria plan benefits, gifts (cash, property, or in-kind), and inheritances (see
Table 2).
These may be considered resources for determining low-income. In addition, as discussed later,
many other low-income programs include some measure of liquid assets as resources when
determining eligibility.
22
See IRC Section 36(B)(d)(2)
MAGI methodology does not apply to:
• Aged, Blind or Disabled (AABD) program, including spenddown,
• Long Term Care (Nursing Home, Supported Living Facility, DoA-Aging Community Care Waiver),
• Health Benefits for Workers with Disabilities (HBWD),
• Medicare Savings Program (QMB, SLIB, QI-1),
• Foster Care (category 98), and
• Former Foster Care (a new eligibility group under ACA for whom all income is exempt).
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Find more info on elimination of asset test in majority of states and cases.
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The Definition of Income Under PPACA
In Section 2002(a) and Section 1401(a) of PPACA, household income is defined to be MAGI in
compliance with the Internal Revenue Code (IRC). Specifically, gross income is total income
minus certain exclusions (e.g., public assistance payments, employer contributions to health
insurance payments). From gross income, adjusted gross income (AGI) is calculated to reflect a
number of deductions, including trade and business deductions, losses from sale of property, and alimony payments. MAGI is defined as AGI plus certain foreign earned income and tax-exempt interest.22 Because AGI (and consequently MAGI) includes only sources of income that are taxable, some sources (or types) of income that may be considered resources for determining whether a person (or couple) is low-income are only partially included, whereas others are not included at all. Two of the sources of income partially included in MAGI that may be considered resources for determining low-income are non-taxable Social Security benefits and non-taxable pension and annuity income. Examples of sources of income that are not included in MAGI are fringe benefits, cafeteria plan benefits, gifts (cash, property, or in-kind), and inheritances (see
Table 2).
These may be considered resources for determining low-income. In addition, as discussed later,
many other low-income programs include some measure of liquid assets as resources when
determining eligibility.
22
See IRC Section 36(B)(d)(2)
MAGI methodology does not apply to:
• Aged, Blind or Disabled (AABD) program, including spenddown,
• Long Term Care (Nursing Home, Supported Living Facility, DoA-Aging Community Care Waiver),
• Health Benefits for Workers with Disabilities (HBWD),
• Medicare Savings Program (QMB, SLIB, QI-1),
• Foster Care (category 98), and
• Former Foster Care (a new eligibility group under ACA for whom all income is exempt).
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As of Jan 1,

medicaid has restored dental coverage for adults

covers naturopathic physicians providing primary care

and cover contraceptives

to name a few
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34711822


I'm eligible for medicaid but wasn't going to apply. I had insurance once for about 2 years in my entire adult life. Haven't been to a doctor in 22 years.

But you're saying dental treatment and naturopaths could be covered?

I couldn't bring myself to look into it but my god, I haven't been to a dentist in at least 7 years, still paying for the last work that was done . . .
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I care for my handicapped son, what states are you talking about? He has been on SSI since 8 yrs old. I lived in Ohio up till 5 yrs ago and got nothing no programs nothing for handicapped people he is now 46 and Hawaii pays for 24 hrs of direct service worker time a week, would love to know if there are more I could get for him
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I just checked Hawaii and they are expanding Medicaid so this could benefit you and your son going forward as their programs and benefits should increase.

[link to www.medicaid.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51521671


thank you for doing this. Social Security says its income and I get one month of my SS taken away from me , they say its over the income I can make
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP
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I just cant understand it. Wish they had people like you that could sit down and look at all our paperwork and see what we could do or get

Last Edited by MONSTER on 12/19/2013 12:56 AM
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP
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Since you posting this the first time I have since moved back to Ohio. my sons father died so he is getting Survivor Benefits from Social Security,this now is all he gets from Social Security. I was in Hawaii at the time he died and didnt know he passed until two years later when I moved back. They said they could only give him 6 months in back payments. He gets the Survivor Benefits and his medical and drugs paid by Medicare and $16.00 in food stamps. I get nothing but my own Social Security.He has been on a list since 2013 in Ohio for a waver program for a care giver program. Ohio is pretty bad about giving money out for programs, have to be on a list for years till someone getting it dies and causing a space to fill. Are you saying I could be getting money from SS to care for my son?
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP
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Since you posting this the first time I have since moved back to Ohio. my sons father died so he is getting Survivor Benefits from Social Security,this now is all he gets from Social Security. I was in Hawaii at the time he died and didnt know he passed until two years later when I moved back. They said they could only give him 6 months in back payments. He gets the Survivor Benefits and his medical and drugs paid by Medicare and $16.00 in food stamps. I get nothing but my own Social Security.He has been on a list since 2013 in Ohio for a waver program for a care giver program. Ohio is pretty bad about giving money out for programs, have to be on a list for years till someone getting it dies and causing a space to fill. Are you saying I could be getting money from SS to care for my son?
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Often, it is The Valley Area Agency on Aging you must contact to get on the Waiver Program and begin to get paid as a care giver.

Usually, you can get up to, but no more than 40 hours per week, regardless if you provide care 24/7 (however, I have heard theee are even new statutes saying caregivers are eligible for more paid hours as long as they are physically ready and able to provide assistance etc in the home...).

To clear up your tax nightmare, and add no-nonsense clout to the layers of bureacracy, (my municipality threatened to serve me "a warrant for tax evasion), it is prudent, to pay the $150 for one half hour--with a qualified and seasoned TAX ATTORNEY -- and have him draft a "To whom it may concern" boilerplate type letter so you have "your necessary arsenal" in your pocket...

When signing government documents that the social workers etc fly right through without truly "explaining" them to you, always precede your signature with something like, "full rights reserved" -- which I think implies, that you do not give up your rights to legal councel down the road if needed - but each state varies and I am NOT giving legal advice!!!















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