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green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada 12/16/2013 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so as a 'graphic designer' how do you 'know these things' other than repeat what NASA puts on their website? yea, because no one can know more than one thing in life. Do you think i dont have interests or studies outside of graphic design? I know what I know because i know it. I know ison broke uo because I watched it happen. I know it id dead, because i see the images that show no new gases or dust or tail formation. besides the point. i gave evidence. where is the evidence to the contrary? I gave you and astro a bunch of evidence to the contrary, but you guys ignored me or pushed me aside because my explanation from a physics standpoint went over your head. Ison was obviously intact when it went around the sun, and it continued out-gassing as far as we could track it on lasco C3. Bruce Gary even posted on his website that Ison could have a trajectory change when going around the sun, but you ignored my explanation of that from a physics standpoint. Bruce Gary claims Ison is dead because it has a low visible magnitude, which means almost nothing from an astrological standpoint. Without infrared, x-ray, or stereo measurements on top of visible data, you aren't getting the full picture and making claims off of almost nothing. I can go on if you wish. It's pretty simple physics to understand that a body in space can have trajectory changes from an enormous amount of factors, and also if Ison fragmented, it would lose visible magnitude, but it wouldn't lose potency to cause destruction on a planet if only one size-able fragment hit us. Remember, a 30m wide object destroys cities, a 150m wide object destroys parts of continents, and anything larger is, well fuck, lets party. And just to clarify, I'm not saying anything is headed our way, I am merely pointing out that it is a possibility from a physics standpoint. Peace, Love, and Harmony Cody your evidence was pretty much debunked as it was presented. I know you disagree, and that is fine for you. Yes, things explode and it can alter trajectory just not going hundreds of thousands of miles around a sun. any changes that it could make in trajectory would only become apparent in subsequent orbits, and as ison is never coming back it is a moot point. :malefav: I love this place!! |
Blades11 User ID: 51243142 United States 12/16/2013 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38722267 so as a 'graphic designer' how do you 'know these things' other than repeat what NASA puts on their website? yea, because no one can know more than one thing in life. Do you think i dont have interests or studies outside of graphic design? I know what I know because i know it. I know ison broke uo because I watched it happen. I know it id dead, because i see the images that show no new gases or dust or tail formation. besides the point. i gave evidence. where is the evidence to the contrary? I gave you and astro a bunch of evidence to the contrary, but you guys ignored me or pushed me aside because my explanation from a physics standpoint went over your head. Ison was obviously intact when it went around the sun, and it continued out-gassing as far as we could track it on lasco C3. Bruce Gary even posted on his website that Ison could have a trajectory change when going around the sun, but you ignored my explanation of that from a physics standpoint. Bruce Gary claims Ison is dead because it has a low visible magnitude, which means almost nothing from an astrological standpoint. Without infrared, x-ray, or stereo measurements on top of visible data, you aren't getting the full picture and making claims off of almost nothing. I can go on if you wish. It's pretty simple physics to understand that a body in space can have trajectory changes from an enormous amount of factors, and also if Ison fragmented, it would lose visible magnitude, but it wouldn't lose potency to cause destruction on a planet if only one size-able fragment hit us. Remember, a 30m wide object destroys cities, a 150m wide object destroys parts of continents, and anything larger is, well fuck, lets party. And just to clarify, I'm not saying anything is headed our way, I am merely pointing out that it is a possibility from a physics standpoint. Peace, Love, and Harmony Cody your evidence was pretty much debunked as it was presented. I know you disagree, and that is fine for you. Yes, things explode and it can alter trajectory just not going hundreds of thousands of miles around a sun. any changes that it could make in trajectory would only become apparent in subsequent orbits, and as ison is never coming back it is a moot point. My evidence was never debunked and never will be, because it is BASIC PHYSICS, which you and astro CLEARLY don't understand. He was using theories based on planet orbits from the early 1600's to argue a comet going perihelion, which is idiotic to say the least. And what I bold-ed is 100% wrong. You are basing an idea off thin air. Anywho, I'm not trying to argue. You can also believe whatever you want, even if it is %100 wrong. Peace, Love, and Harmony Cody |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51634193 United States 12/16/2013 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I gave you and astro a bunch of evidence to the contrary, but you guys ignored me or pushed me aside because my explanation from a physics standpoint went over your head. Quoting: Blades11 Ison was obviously intact when it went around the sun, and it continued out-gassing as far as we could track it on lasco C3. Bruce Gary even posted on his website that Ison could have a trajectory change when going around the sun, but you ignored my explanation of that from a physics standpoint. Bruce Gary claims Ison is dead because it has a low visible magnitude, which means almost nothing from an astrological standpoint. Without infrared, x-ray, or stereo measurements on top of visible data, you aren't getting the full picture and making claims off of almost nothing. I can go on if you wish. It's pretty simple physics to understand that a body in space can have trajectory changes from an enormous amount of factors, and also if Ison fragmented, it would lose visible magnitude, but it wouldn't lose potency to cause destruction on a planet if only one size-able fragment hit us. Remember, a 30m wide object destroys cities, a 150m wide object destroys parts of continents, and anything larger is, well fuck, lets party. And just to clarify, I'm not saying anything is headed our way, I am merely pointing out that it is a possibility from a physics standpoint. Peace, Love, and Harmony Cody "Could have" and "if ison fragmented" is speculative language, not math. So you're merely pointing out that it is a possibility, right? In other word, you don't exactly know shit, right? If you want to infuse scientific credibility to your speculation, why don't you make a calculation to confidently state how much percentage that possibility is instead of speculating with ambiguous multi-interpretation word which isn't scientific at all? If you use ambiguous word like possibility, anything is possible, even ison ended up in yo ass is possible, why not? the important question is the mathematical percentage of the probability. So you could calculate that number? |
Blades11 User ID: 51243142 United States 12/16/2013 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I gave you and astro a bunch of evidence to the contrary, but you guys ignored me or pushed me aside because my explanation from a physics standpoint went over your head. Quoting: Blades11 Ison was obviously intact when it went around the sun, and it continued out-gassing as far as we could track it on lasco C3. Bruce Gary even posted on his website that Ison could have a trajectory change when going around the sun, but you ignored my explanation of that from a physics standpoint. Bruce Gary claims Ison is dead because it has a low visible magnitude, which means almost nothing from an astrological standpoint. Without infrared, x-ray, or stereo measurements on top of visible data, you aren't getting the full picture and making claims off of almost nothing. I can go on if you wish. It's pretty simple physics to understand that a body in space can have trajectory changes from an enormous amount of factors, and also if Ison fragmented, it would lose visible magnitude, but it wouldn't lose potency to cause destruction on a planet if only one size-able fragment hit us. Remember, a 30m wide object destroys cities, a 150m wide object destroys parts of continents, and anything larger is, well fuck, lets party. And just to clarify, I'm not saying anything is headed our way, I am merely pointing out that it is a possibility from a physics standpoint. Peace, Love, and Harmony Cody "Could have" and "if ison fragmented" is speculative language, not math. So you're merely pointing out that it is a possibility, right? In other word, you don't exactly know shit, right? If you want to infuse scientific credibility to your speculation, why don't you make a calculation to confidently state how much percentage that possibility is instead of speculating with ambiguous multi-interpretation word which isn't scientific at all? If you use ambiguous word like possibility, anything is possible, even ison ended up in yo ass is possible, why not? the important question is the mathematical percentage of the probability. So you could calculate that number? Well it is a 100% guarantee that fragments from Ison will hit Earth. The size of the fragments is the issue at hand. And not everything is possible according to modern physics, so save your insults for someone else. For me to track a fragment specifically would require a lot of equipment on my part, which I don't own. So unless you want to buy me at least $50,000 in scientific equipment, I can't give you exact numbers. That is why observatories were made, and supercomputers are used. Last Edited by Blades11 on 12/16/2013 12:55 PM |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 51060392 United States 12/16/2013 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That means you are moron. Venting your rage to the religious fucks showed an early indication of your moron-ness. fyi, it's isontards that deserve your rage coz these imbeciles are the retards responsible for ison doom madness, not the religious fucks. Secondly, asking that question means you didn't even understand what they meant by hubs, therefore you are now certified moron. Lol so are you mad or nah? Prove me wrong, that you ain't retard. What's hubs? Who's that imbecile signing his post with "ison lives"? You get 10 IQ points for each right answer. So I'm retarded because I don't know shit about space? I'm a finance major in college, why the fuck would I need to know what 'hubs' is? Lol |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32858759 United Kingdom 12/16/2013 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51634193 That means you are moron. Venting your rage to the religious fucks showed an early indication of your moron-ness. fyi, it's isontards that deserve your rage coz these imbeciles are the retards responsible for ison doom madness, not the religious fucks. Secondly, asking that question means you didn't even understand what they meant by hubs, therefore you are now certified moron. Lol so are you mad or nah? Prove me wrong, that you ain't retard. What's hubs? Who's that imbecile signing his post with "ison lives"? You get 10 IQ points for each right answer. So I'm retarded because I don't know shit about space? I'm a finance major in college, why the fuck would I need to know what 'hubs' is? Lol Even my cat calls it hubs. You're a terrible terrible person for not knowing its full name and were obviously sent by the devil himself to this forum. May god have mercy on your soul. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 48376296 United States 12/16/2013 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was using theories based on planet orbits from the early 1600's to argue a comet going perihelion, which is idiotic to say the least. Quoting: Blades11 It works, to say the least. Thread: Comet ISON's debris is following the original orbit of the comet. |
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Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 12/16/2013 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well yea, except for the fact that the Chelyabinsk meteor was an unidentified object, and ISON has been identified, and ya know, tracked, before it was destroyed by the sun Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50347529 Nasa told you it was destroyed by the sun,thats does not make it a FACT if nasa missed that meteor over Russia a while back it means they are not worth listening to...as for the Chelyabinsk meteor...its a sign of the POWER of what can happen.... [link to img35.imageshack.us] I wonder how many different angles They have of this footage & which one They showed us. I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 12/16/2013 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no doom, op. no proof of doom. Ison was broken apart even before it went around the sun. It was only a mile or so big, so any pieces are smaller than that, and still heading on the original path. Far away from us. Doom off. for real. Quoting: green_girl No proof of this either. It's actually more disturbing to see them take such a whimsical perspective in light of the fact that there is no evidence other than to support a cover up of information. So many assumptions, so many flaws in Never A Straight Answer's story, misdirection, obfuscation, REPEATED chunks of missing footage(not to mention that the resident ex-spurts, status quo shills contradict Themselves, contradict each other & contradict their infallible idols at Never A Straight Answer), numerous "oops! mea culpa's!" & still the resident ex-spurts & status quo shills say that the Comet, which they say was destroyed, is EXACTLY where Never A Straight Answer said that it would be, doing EXACTLY what They said that it would be doing, even though They can't provide proof, because the nonexistent Comet is a "cloud of dust", to faint to be able to see. Yup. I'm convinced, based on the amazing way that Never A Straight Answer handled the coverage of Comet ISON, from the start, right up till the well documented & absolutely irrefutable footage showing the complete annihilation, during perihelion & the flawless arguments of the tag team resident ex-spurts & status quo shills, that the dust cloud, that was Comet ISON, is nothing more than a figment of their collective imaginations. Yup, 100% convinced. I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
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*Ozone Baby* User ID: 1349494 Canada 12/16/2013 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're such a fucking troll. Nasa already said we get hit from both sides by fragments from Ison... "In my experience, this kind of double whammy is unprecedented," says Wiegert. [link to science.nasa.gov] Go back to your cave you wretched beast. Oh wait, this is your cave, I forgot. Yup NASA certainly did say this. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Resident Led Zeppelin Expert (ask me anything!) Traveler of both time and space Fuck Trudeau. mRNA-Free and Proud. "The essence of the independent mind lies not in what it thinks, but in how it thinks.' ~ Chris Hitchens |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51593903 Ukraine 12/16/2013 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was using theories based on planet orbits from the early 1600's to argue a comet going perihelion, which is idiotic to say the least. Quoting: Blades11 It works, to say the least. Thread: Comet ISON's debris is following the original orbit of the comet. :headshot: Except its original orbit intersect with earth's... Doom is never off until end of Jan then? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50347529 United States 12/16/2013 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I gave you and astro a bunch of evidence to the contrary, but you guys ignored me or pushed me aside because my explanation from a physics standpoint went over your head. Quoting: Blades11 Ison was obviously intact when it went around the sun, and it continued out-gassing as far as we could track it on lasco C3. Bruce Gary even posted on his website that Ison could have a trajectory change when going around the sun, but you ignored my explanation of that from a physics standpoint. Bruce Gary claims Ison is dead because it has a low visible magnitude, which means almost nothing from an astrological standpoint. Without infrared, x-ray, or stereo measurements on top of visible data, you aren't getting the full picture and making claims off of almost nothing. I can go on if you wish. It's pretty simple physics to understand that a body in space can have trajectory changes from an enormous amount of factors, and also if Ison fragmented, it would lose visible magnitude, but it wouldn't lose potency to cause destruction on a planet if only one size-able fragment hit us. Remember, a 30m wide object destroys cities, a 150m wide object destroys parts of continents, and anything larger is, well fuck, lets party. And just to clarify, I'm not saying anything is headed our way, I am merely pointing out that it is a possibility from a physics standpoint. Peace, Love, and Harmony Cody "Could have" and "if ison fragmented" is speculative language, not math. So you're merely pointing out that it is a possibility, right? In other word, you don't exactly know shit, right? If you want to infuse scientific credibility to your speculation, why don't you make a calculation to confidently state how much percentage that possibility is instead of speculating with ambiguous multi-interpretation word which isn't scientific at all? If you use ambiguous word like possibility, anything is possible, even ison ended up in yo ass is possible, why not? the important question is the mathematical percentage of the probability. So you could calculate that number? Well it is a 100% guarantee that fragments from Ison will hit Earth. The size of the fragments is the issue at hand. And not everything is possible according to modern physics, so save your insults for someone else. For me to track a fragment specifically would require a lot of equipment on my part, which I don't own. So unless you want to buy me at least $50,000 in scientific equipment, I can't give you exact numbers. That is why observatories were made, and supercomputers are used. anymore bedtime fairy tales to share with us? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50347529 United States 12/16/2013 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was using theories based on planet orbits from the early 1600's to argue a comet going perihelion, which is idiotic to say the least. Quoting: Blades11 It works, to say the least. Thread: Comet ISON's debris is following the original orbit of the comet. :headshot: Except its original orbit intersect with earth's... Doom is never off until end of Jan then? do you consider it an intersection when there is an overpass with one highway going underneath the other highway? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50347529 United States 12/16/2013 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well yea, except for the fact that the Chelyabinsk meteor was an unidentified object, and ISON has been identified, and ya know, tracked, before it was destroyed by the sun Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50347529 Nasa told you it was destroyed by the sun,thats does not make it a FACT if nasa missed that meteor over Russia a while back it means they are not worth listening to...as for the Chelyabinsk meteor...its a sign of the POWER of what can happen.... [link to img35.imageshack.us] I wonder how many different angles They have of this footage & which one They showed us. they have multiple angles, and all of them are readily available for you to watch if you bothered to take the time to find them |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50347529 United States 12/16/2013 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're such a fucking troll. Nasa already said we get hit from both sides by fragments from Ison... "In my experience, this kind of double whammy is unprecedented," says Wiegert. [link to science.nasa.gov] Go back to your cave you wretched beast. Oh wait, this is your cave, I forgot. Yup NASA certainly did say this. well, "NASA certainly did say" that if you want to cherry pick quotes and take them out of context. What the article actually said was this "...some of that dust might end up on Earth." Quoting: [link to science.nasa.gov] "...his findings suggest that an unusual meteor shower could be in the offing." "Don’t expect to notice. The invisible rain of comet dust, if it occurs, would be very slow." so, it's quite apparent that all of the ISONtards choose to ignore the fact that NASA has pointed it out only as a possibility, and are just assuming it as definitive because that's what they wish to hear. |
Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 12/16/2013 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51399499 Nasa told you it was destroyed by the sun,thats does not make it a FACT if nasa missed that meteor over Russia a while back it means they are not worth listening to...as for the Chelyabinsk meteor...its a sign of the POWER of what can happen.... [link to img35.imageshack.us] I wonder how many different angles They have of this footage & which one They showed us. they have multiple angles, and all of them are readily available for you to watch if you bothered to take the time to find them Or, mayhaps, I won't bother asking legitimate questions & just TROLL around, being an asshole, to random posters. Is that fun? Doesn't really sound like fun. Nah, I'll just keep asking relevant questions & trying to figure out what's going on with Comet ISON. You TROLLS, resident ex-spurts & status quo shills are hammering the crap out of this topic & it makes my curious mind wonder why that is. I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51593903 Ukraine 12/16/2013 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He was using theories based on planet orbits from the early 1600's to argue a comet going perihelion, which is idiotic to say the least. Quoting: Blades11 It works, to say the least. Thread: Comet ISON's debris is following the original orbit of the comet. :headshot: Except its original orbit intersect with earth's... Doom is never off until end of Jan then? do you consider it an intersection when there is an overpass with one highway going underneath the other highway? Go to [link to www.solarsystemscope.com] Slide the time to Nov 1st, and tell me whether it's overpass or underneath, or its debris has a fat chance of hitting us... |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 12/16/2013 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're such a fucking troll. Nasa already said we get hit from both sides by fragments from Ison... "In my experience, this kind of double whammy is unprecedented," says Wiegert. [link to science.nasa.gov] Go back to your cave you wretched beast. Oh wait, this is your cave, I forgot. Yup NASA certainly did say this. Neither one of you understand what they said. They're talking about dust emitted by the comet prior to perihelion, that we might encounter when we cross the point of closest intersection between our orbit and ISON's orbit. Again, that point corresponds to where ISON had been at the start of November, not after perihelion. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50023508 United States 12/16/2013 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no doom, op. no proof of doom. Ison was broken apart even before it went around the sun. It was only a mile or so big, so any pieces are smaller than that, and still heading on the original path. Far away from us. Doom off. for real. Quoting: green_girl No proof of this either. It's actually more disturbing to see them take such a whimsical perspective in light of the fact that there is no evidence other than to support a cover up of information. on the contrary there is much evidence to support what i just said. we know ison is small, we have measured it. we know ison will travel on its projected path because every comet we have ever seen does. We know that ison broke up before perihelion because it stopped producing new gas. We know ison is not a comet anymore because it is producing no new dust or outgassing events. there is a lot of evidence for my side of the debate. Any for the opposition? Wow the science channel documentary about Ison I watched contradicted a lot of this statement. Perhaps you guys should all get the story straight. They even showed footage of how it even brightened again after dimming just after perihelion, when it started out gassing again. |
Shadow Beam User ID: 51649225 New Zealand 12/16/2013 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well yea, except for the fact that the Chelyabinsk meteor was an unidentified object, and ISON has been identified, and ya know, tracked, before it was destroyed by the sun Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50347529 Nasa told you it was destroyed by the sun,thats does not make it a FACT if nasa missed that meteor over Russia a while back it means they are not worth listening to...as for the Chelyabinsk meteor...its a sign of the POWER of what can happen.... nasa didnt cover this meteor up A) it was under the threshold for objects which are tracked. Nasa only tracks objects of a certain size, 1km or more i think. B) its approach to earth was largely shielded by the sun, makeing it close to imposible to collect any info on it prior to the event (obviously not the case with ISON) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50347529 United States 12/16/2013 05:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder how many different angles They have of this footage & which one They showed us. they have multiple angles, and all of them are readily available for you to watch if you bothered to take the time to find them Or, mayhaps, I won't bother asking legitimate questions & just TROLL around, being an asshole, to random posters. Is that fun? Doesn't really sound like fun. Nah, I'll just keep asking relevant questions & trying to figure out what's going on with Comet ISON. You TROLLS, resident ex-spurts & status quo shills are hammering the crap out of this topic & it makes my curious mind wonder why that is. multiple views -- [link to www.planetary.org] [link to www.planetary.org] |
green_girl User ID: 49871189 Canada 12/16/2013 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no doom, op. no proof of doom. Ison was broken apart even before it went around the sun. It was only a mile or so big, so any pieces are smaller than that, and still heading on the original path. Far away from us. Doom off. for real. Quoting: green_girl No proof of this either. It's actually more disturbing to see them take such a whimsical perspective in light of the fact that there is no evidence other than to support a cover up of information. on the contrary there is much evidence to support what i just said. we know ison is small, we have measured it. we know ison will travel on its projected path because every comet we have ever seen does. We know that ison broke up before perihelion because it stopped producing new gas. We know ison is not a comet anymore because it is producing no new dust or outgassing events. there is a lot of evidence for my side of the debate. Any for the opposition? Wow the science channel documentary about Ison I watched contradicted a lot of this statement. Perhaps you guys should all get the story straight. They even showed footage of how it even brightened again after dimming just after perihelion, when it started out gassing again. yes, and since they filmed that show they have learned a lot about ison. for example the brightening was due to ison beginning to outgas a different kind of ice. :malefav: I love this place!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50023508 United States 12/16/2013 05:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need some better explanation of the official report of how it's still Ison's first trail that will be forced back towards earth by solar radiation pressure. From what I've seen from the original article that part seemed more complex. The model just showed an image of earth spinning through a dust field.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50347529 United States 12/16/2013 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro It works, to say the least. Thread: Comet ISON's debris is following the original orbit of the comet. :headshot: Except its original orbit intersect with earth's... Doom is never off until end of Jan then? do you consider it an intersection when there is an overpass with one highway going underneath the other highway? Go to [link to www.solarsystemscope.com] Slide the time to Nov 1st, and tell me whether it's overpass or underneath, or its debris has a fat chance of hitting us... Earth will pass through the path that the comet took on its way to the sun (pre-perihelion) but that's going to be 3+ months AFTER the comet passed through that area |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50023508 United States 12/16/2013 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no doom, op. no proof of doom. Ison was broken apart even before it went around the sun. It was only a mile or so big, so any pieces are smaller than that, and still heading on the original path. Far away from us. Doom off. for real. Quoting: green_girl No proof of this either. It's actually more disturbing to see them take such a whimsical perspective in light of the fact that there is no evidence other than to support a cover up of information. on the contrary there is much evidence to support what i just said. we know ison is small, we have measured it. we know ison will travel on its projected path because every comet we have ever seen does. We know that ison broke up before perihelion because it stopped producing new gas. We know ison is not a comet anymore because it is producing no new dust or outgassing events. there is a lot of evidence for my side of the debate. Any for the opposition? Wow the science channel documentary about Ison I watched contradicted a lot of this statement. Perhaps you guys should all get the story straight. They even showed footage of how it even brightened again after dimming just after perihelion, when it started out gassing again. ..they filmed the show on December 7th.. |
Shadow Beam User ID: 51649225 New Zealand 12/16/2013 05:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're such a fucking troll. Nasa already said we get hit from both sides by fragments from Ison... "In my experience, this kind of double whammy is unprecedented," says Wiegert. [link to science.nasa.gov] Go back to your cave you wretched beast. Oh wait, this is your cave, I forgot. Yup NASA certainly did say this. Neither one of you understand what they said. They're talking about dust emitted by the comet prior to perihelion, that we might encounter when we cross the point of closest intersection between our orbit and ISON's orbit. Again, that point corresponds to where ISON had been at the start of November, not after perihelion. the link is clearly refering to ISONs tail as it went towards the sun. the best way to understand this is take ISON as its physical nucleus out of it (fragmented or not) this link is talking about ISONs tail ONLY it is talking about an area of space ISON has left its tail, or dust as thats what the tail is. in all hounesty, its not ISON its a remnant left from its time in the solar system. in a way what your saying is if a cme passes over earth, earth has passed through the sun of course it has not |