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The Voice of Russia and other Russian sources are reporting that a 300 million year old piece of aluminum machinery has been found in Vladivostok. Experts say a gear rail appears to be manufactured and not the result of natural forces.

According to Yulia Zamanskaya, when a resident of Vladivostok was lighting the fire during a cold winter evening, he found a rail-shaped metal detail which was pressed in one of the pieces of coal that the man used to heat his home. Mesmerized by his discovery, the responsible citizen decided to seek help from the scientists of Primorye region. After the metal object was studied by the leading experts the man was shocked to learn about the assumed age of his discovery. The metal detail was supposedly 300 million years old and yet the scientists suggest that it was not created by nature but was rather manufactured by someone. The question of who might have made an aluminum gear in the dawn of time remains unanswered.

[link to news44.net]
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i wish its true, but how can we proof its made 300 million years ago??
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i wish its true, but how can we proof its made 300 million years ago??
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Presumably they have carbon-dated the coal? If that can be done?
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Alright, that's pin worthy! NOW HOW OLD IS RELIGION? WHAT CAME FIRST GOD OR MAN?

MAN!!!!


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i wish its true, but how can we proof its made 300 million years ago??
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Presumably they have carbon-dated the coal? If that can be done?
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Geological process take time. For coal to be formed and be in the state it is, must have taken this period of time. Carbon dating is not the only way to measure time. There are several other ways. For example, a dinosaur found in X depth in the ground. According to this depth, the time it has can be presumed.
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Alright, that's pin worthy! NOW HOW OLD IS RELIGION? WHAT CAME FIRST GOD OR MAN?

MAN!!!!


yoda
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you sick bastard

you deny yourself
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Isn't carbon dating meaningless over 50000 years or so?

Pretty cool if legit tho banana2
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i wish its true, but how can we proof its made 300 million years ago??
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I'll believe it when they find the weapon that wiped them out petrified in coal.
When you find a piece of shit along side the road and you poke it with a stick, what do you expect to find inside of it, gold?
No, it's just going to stink more.
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i wish its true, but how can we proof its made 300 million years ago??
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Presumably they have carbon-dated the coal? If that can be done?
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Geological process take time. For coal to be formed and be in the state it is, must have taken this period of time. Carbon dating is not the only way to measure time. There are several other ways. For example, a dinosaur found in X depth in the ground. According to this depth, the time it has can be presumed.
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but all of that data is open to interpretation,so basically what we deem true today,doesnt have to be true tomorrow

soft tisues in dinosaur bones clearly indicate that we are in dark so to speak,we dont understand our history
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Humanity has been around for billions of years.

Rises up, gets wiped out, starts all over again. Bound to find some traces if you did deep enough or geological forces push something up.

There have been at least 6 ELEs in the course of Earth history.
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i wish its true, but how can we proof its made 300 million years ago??
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Presumably they have carbon-dated the coal? If that can be done?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50021487


Geological process take time. For coal to be formed and be in the state it is, must have taken this period of time. Carbon dating is not the only way to measure time. There are several other ways. For example, a dinosaur found in X depth in the ground. According to this depth, the time it has can be presumed.
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Thanks.hf
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jfyi…carbon dating is only semi accurate to 1000ad.
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Humanity has been around for billions of years.

Rises up, gets wiped out, starts all over again. Bound to find some traces if you did deep enough or geological forces push something up.

There have been at least 6 ELEs in the course of Earth history.
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Why do you assume it was humans that left these artifacts? Your species is nowhere near that old. Some of these relics are over half a billion years old.
I ordered the destruction of mankind, why are you still here?
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Humanity has been around for billions of years.

Rises up, gets wiped out, starts all over again. Bound to find some traces if you did deep enough or geological forces push something up.

There have been at least 6 ELEs in the course of Earth history.
 Quoting: Bear Drinker


This ...
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i wish its true, but how can we proof its made 300 million years ago??
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Presumably they have carbon-dated the coal? If that can be done?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50021487


Geological process take time. For coal to be formed and be in the state it is, must have taken this period of time. Carbon dating is not the only way to measure time. There are several other ways. For example, a dinosaur found in X depth in the ground. According to this depth, the time it has can be presumed.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU



This only proves how innacurate the method. A teacher in a university of Mariana, Brazil, got pissed off and started to jump out of his knowledge territory when I started to mention C14 half life "measuring" older periods of time, or other methods like dendrology versus zircon system, etc, etc, etc. Many of such methods depend on too much assumptions and guessing than real Science, depending on uniformitarianism theory that preaches everything in the past must've happened in the same way we see it nowadays as if we, humans, have observed in these few millenia everything that happened in nature. Even the amount of oxygen was different in the past (we know this due to preserved air in bubbles within fossilized amber in trees). MUD and vegetal coal was found BENEATH LAYERS OF ICE making evident we still need to know more about the process involved in our geology. The GIGANTISM of animals and vegetals even BEFORE THE DINOSAURS, colossal insects, bird's beaks with gargantuan size, birds with wings the size of our horses, necks of Sauroposseidon... things barely "explained" or even mentioned in paleonthology... were caused by changes IN THE PLANET and not explained by biology... but if you start digging you'll end up digging everything they told you is a chain reaction of LIES UPON LIES because knowledge is a privilge of few and if you understand the size and rapid movement of dinosaurs compared with slow giraffes or African elephant, babies being caught in mud and dying by means of their own weigh..... then you will understand this is rarely explained in a fistful of books nobody is aware, and then you start asking about the relationship between their SIZE with GRAVITY and why nobody found "grávitons" and if we outta believe Newton if gravity is a force or Einstein saying it is just an illusion due to the mass of a planet or star upon that unknown thing called "space" and vacum, start asking about what is "time" and everything else.

First, analyze WHY DO WE HAVE TO TRUST THE METHODS TO MEASURE "TIME" and the contradictory visions of many scientists saying things afford one theory and against each other.
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soo fucking strange
This is like before Nephilim, Modern Man and countless Mega Fauna. Almost like a Steampunk Iron Age sort of alternate reality hidden deep under layers of molten metal/rock. I see cogs, wheels, tools, bulbs and batteries. Maybe are minds naturally regress back into these ancient technologies so we can reinvent them. The reasons also might be more sinister. They are imprinted in your imagination to warn you of the consequences for going down this path. spooky
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Crinoid fossil. Debunked.

[link to www.thefossilforum.com]
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Humanity has been around for billions of years.

Rises up, gets wiped out, starts all over again. Bound to find some traces if you did deep enough or geological forces push something up.

There have been at least 6 ELEs in the course of Earth history.
 Quoting: Bear Drinker


yeah that's basically what I'm suggesting to

We all share the memories of these Past Worlds. That's why we keep digging up the same kinds of inventions AS we are reinventing them.

too bad its too late to blow the whistle in this phenomena because we are just about ready to hit the RESET Button again.

oh well maybe next time eh. :/
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i don't think they carbon date that kind of stuff they just go by the fact it was found in coal and it take however million years for coal to form

and they go by how deep down it was found 200 - 500 feet or more down means long time like 50,000 + years
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Alright, that's pin worthy! NOW HOW OLD IS RELIGION? WHAT CAME FIRST GOD OR MAN?

MAN!!!!


yoda
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you sick bastard

you deny yourself
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Now that's some christian love right there!

God will be pleased that you do the judging for him.
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i wish its true, but how can we proof its made 300 million years ago??
 Quoting: aqmah


Presumably they have carbon-dated the coal? If that can be done?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50021487


Geological process take time. For coal to be formed and be in the state it is, must have taken this period of time. Carbon dating is not the only way to measure time. There are several other ways. For example, a dinosaur found in X depth in the ground. According to this depth, the time it has can be presumed.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU



This only proves how innacurate the method. A teacher in a university of Mariana, Brazil, got pissed off and started to jump out of his knowledge territory when I started to mention C14 half life "measuring" older periods of time, or other methods like dendrology versus zircon system, etc, etc, etc. Many of such methods depend on too much assumptions and guessing than real Science, depending on uniformitarianism theory that preaches everything in the past must've happened in the same way we see it nowadays as if we, humans, have observed in these few millenia everything that happened in nature. Even the amount of oxygen was different in the past (we know this due to preserved air in bubbles within fossilized amber in trees). MUD and vegetal coal was found BENEATH LAYERS OF ICE making evident we still need to know more about the process involved in our geology. The GIGANTISM of animals and vegetals even BEFORE THE DINOSAURS, colossal insects, bird's beaks with gargantuan size, birds with wings the size of our horses, necks of Sauroposseidon... things barely "explained" or even mentioned in paleonthology... were caused by changes IN THE PLANET and not explained by biology... but if you start digging you'll end up digging everything they told you is a chain reaction of LIES UPON LIES because knowledge is a privilge of few and if you understand the size and rapid movement of dinosaurs compared with slow giraffes or African elephant, babies being caught in mud and dying by means of their own weigh..... then you will understand this is rarely explained in a fistful of books nobody is aware, and then you start asking about the relationship between their SIZE with GRAVITY and why nobody found "grávitons" and if we outta believe Newton if gravity is a force or Einstein saying it is just an illusion due to the mass of a planet or star upon that unknown thing called "space" and vacum, start asking about what is "time" and everything else.

First, analyze WHY DO WE HAVE TO TRUST THE METHODS TO MEASURE "TIME" and the contradictory visions of many scientists saying things afford one theory and against each other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51725782


Agreed 100% and I can add more:
Time as we know it, is nothing but a perception, a feeling. For example, try to define "NOW", but keep in mind that the simple fact of thinking about it, you are already 80 milliseconds behind already, not even counting that when you think about the simple word "NOW", many other milliseconds have passed on and what you thought to be "NOW" is past already.
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Imagine a civilization like the ones who built the ruins of Yonaguni which is now under the sea.... geologists KNEW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT fuck-you-very-much!!!!

Cataclisms have happened and since geologists depend too much of their theories upon geological time and they just can't figure out the processes they never learned at their universities, they would never even read a book about Yonaguni ruins to begin with!!!!!!! This doom happened in many places and you see human artifacts in Peru that were under the sea and eventually rose above the sea level. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO BUT JUST THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO AND PERHAPS CENTURIES. Geologists are too stupid to realize even an earthquake can alter the axis of the planet IN OUR OWN CURRENT LIVES without having to wait trillions of years!!!!!! Islands can appear and vanish in a second flat. Imagine a volcano rose up and the lava created havoc and mingled things made by A SMART CIVILIZATION that didn't exist millions of years ago.

But then again, WE ARE SPOON FED WITH THE NOTION ELECTRICITY WAS DISCOVERED BY A FREEMASON PRESIDENT BENJAMIN FRANKLIN STUPIDLY PLAYING WITH A KEY AND A KITE OR WITH EDISON AND HIS BULBS AND WIRES, right? Geologists know zero about the use of gold and copper alloy and adding salt bicarbonate to produce electrolysis by Moches in Peru, they ignore about furnaces producing temperatures we achieved only in 1930....; they ignore the achievments of Chinese or Indian people...
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300 million year?
maybe a lucky guess...bsflag
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Crinoid fossil. Debunked.

[link to www.thefossilforum.com]
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bsflag
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Alright, that's pin worthy! NOW HOW OLD IS RELIGION? WHAT CAME FIRST GOD OR MAN?

MAN!!!!


yoda
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Correct! man created God.
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The Voice of Russia and other Russian sources are reporting that a 300 million year old piece of aluminum machinery has been found in Vladivostok. Experts say a gear rail appears to be manufactured and not the result of natural forces.

According to Yulia Zamanskaya, when a resident of Vladivostok was lighting the fire during a cold winter evening, he found a rail-shaped metal detail which was pressed in one of the pieces of coal that the man used to heat his home. Mesmerized by his discovery, the responsible citizen decided to seek help from the scientists of Primorye region. After the metal object was studied by the leading experts the man was shocked to learn about the assumed age of his discovery. The metal detail was supposedly 300 million years old and yet the scientists suggest that it was not created by nature but was rather manufactured by someone. The question of who might have made an aluminum gear in the dawn of time remains unanswered.

[link to news44.net]
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I call bsflag because of the article seems "tabloid" in design. Also, Russia is just spreading disinformation around their country, to hide political and military problems.
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There is false science in Russia like famous "britain scientists", but also there are a many places where was no human presence and what have ancient artifacts
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Imagine a civilization like the ones who built the ruins of Yonaguni which is now under the sea.... geologists KNEW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT fuck-you-very-much!!!!

Cataclisms have happened and since geologists depend too much of their theories upon geological time and they just can't figure out the processes they never learned at their universities, they would never even read a book about Yonaguni ruins to begin with!!!!!!! This doom happened in many places and you see human artifacts in Peru that were under the sea and eventually rose above the sea level. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO BUT JUST THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO AND PERHAPS CENTURIES. Geologists are too stupid to realize even an earthquake can alter the axis of the planet IN OUR OWN CURRENT LIVES without having to wait trillions of years!!!!!! Islands can appear and vanish in a second flat. Imagine a volcano rose up and the lava created havoc and mingled things made by A SMART CIVILIZATION that didn't exist millions of years ago.

But then again, WE ARE SPOON FED WITH THE NOTION ELECTRICITY WAS DISCOVERED BY A FREEMASON PRESIDENT BENJAMIN FRANKLIN STUPIDLY PLAYING WITH A KEY AND A KITE OR WITH EDISON AND HIS BULBS AND WIRES, right? Geologists know zero about the use of gold and copper alloy and adding salt bicarbonate to produce electrolysis by Moches in Peru, they ignore about furnaces producing temperatures we achieved only in 1930....; they ignore the achievments of Chinese or Indian people...
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I feel sorry for those kids raised in outdated western bible belt schools. I bet they still teach Lord Columbus the grand explorer. lol
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Re: 300 Million Year Old Machinery Found In Russia
there was a thread about that maybe six month ago here on GLP.

[link to www.cultofweird.com]

[link to voiceofrussia.com]
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Re: 300 Million Year Old Machinery Found In Russia
soo fucking strange
This is like before Nephilim, Modern Man and countless Mega Fauna. Almost like a Steampunk Iron Age sort of alternate reality hidden deep under layers of molten metal/rock. I see cogs, wheels, tools, bulbs and batteries. Maybe are minds naturally regress back into these ancient technologies so we can reinvent them. The reasons also might be more sinister. They are imprinted in your imagination to warn you of the consequences for going down this path. spooky
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Well said. This is what came to mind for me as well.





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