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If they want to depopulate, why do they say smoking is bad ?

 
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If they want to depopulate, why do they say smoking is bad ?
Like the Georgia Guidestones say that they want to bring down world population, the Elites add toxins like aspartame to our food, GMO's, etc...

But I'm a smoker and they put big warning labels that say that smoking kills.

I just don't get it....Could smoking be actually good and they try to scare us because it may make us live longer '

Any Ideas ?
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They tell you it's bad, because it is proven to be bad.

And they can't fool people anymore about that topic.
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Re: If they want to depopulate, why do they say smoking is bad ?
"They tell you it's bad, because it is proven to be bad.

And they can't fool people anymore about that topic."


You think?

Tell that to my 90 (Ninety) year old mother who has been smoking for over 60 (sixty) years!! She has NO lung problems or heart problems. She is on NO medication whatsoever! In fact, up until recently she was still digging in her flower beds but had to stop because her knee finally gave out and because of her age they won't replace it.
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Because they have to treat people in hospitals and that costs! By the way both of my parents were heavy smokers - they both died in their 60s of lung cancer. Just sayin'.
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Re: If they want to depopulate, why do they say smoking is bad ?
Depends on what you smoke.

Backy is not good for you.
That is why it was introduced.(At any time and in any place on earth.)

Because you can only push evils so far before people get wise, you slowly back down and do the "right" thing, slowly.(Lots of cash to be made from killing people .)
Thats where we are now. Campaigns to stop people from smoking,warnings etc etc.

Now the drug cannabis is a very positive thing for people.
According to most and in perticular the latest studies, this drug is beneficial.
That is why it is largly illegal on earth.
It unlocks things within the mind, gives clarity.

Saying that though there is the danger that people who start too young will get lazy,lack motivation and as a result they could make their life in society more difficult for themselves.
The thing is it can induce paranoia and that could also lead to a mirad of unnessesary setbacks within ones life.

The last negative i am aware of is that people can get addicted to the feeling they get from it.
It is not at all as bad as some other drug users experience.
It is only a feeling of uncomfortability lasting a few days with people feeling a bit cold.
Oh yea, the whole thing costs, so people who want to smoke it all the time will have less money for other things but that is not a big problem for most.

I say do not smoke at all but once you have a job and you are 18 i reckon it is more positive than negative to partake.
Eat it though, in a biscuit or cake.

Sorry OP, i went on one there. The first two paragraphs was all i intended to write and then one thing led to another.

Peace.
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"They tell you it's bad, because it is proven to be bad.

And they can't fool people anymore about that topic."


You think?

Tell that to my 90 (Ninety) year old mother who has been smoking for over 60 (sixty) years!! She has NO lung problems or heart problems. She is on NO medication whatsoever! In fact, up until recently she was still digging in her flower beds but had to stop because her knee finally gave out and because of her age they won't replace it.
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I Think your granma smokes weed.
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I forgot to say,
Once they stop taking the drug.


The last negative i am aware of is that people can get addicted to the feeling they get from it.Once they stop taking the drugIt is not at all as bad as some other drug users experience.
It is only a feeling of uncomfortability lasting a few days with people feeling a bit cold.
Oh yea, the whole thing costs, so people who want to smoke it all the time will have less money for other things but that is not a big problem for most
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"They tell you it's bad, because it is proven to be bad.

And they can't fool people anymore about that topic."


You think?

Tell that to my 90 (Ninety) year old mother who has been smoking for over 60 (sixty) years!! She has NO lung problems or heart problems. She is on NO medication whatsoever! In fact, up until recently she was still digging in her flower beds but had to stop because her knee finally gave out and because of her age they won't replace it.
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I Think your granma smokes weed.
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LOL,that is what i thought.
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"They tell you it's bad, because it is proven to be bad.

And they can't fool people anymore about that topic."


You think?

Tell that to my 90 (Ninety) year old mother who has been smoking for over 60 (sixty) years!! She has NO lung problems or heart problems. She is on NO medication whatsoever! In fact, up until recently she was still digging in her flower beds but had to stop because her knee finally gave out and because of her age they won't replace it.
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"They tell you it's bad, because it is proven to be bad.

And they can't fool people anymore about that topic."


You think?

Tell that to my 90 (Ninety) year old mother who has been smoking for over 60 (sixty) years!! She has NO lung problems or heart problems. She is on NO medication whatsoever! In fact, up until recently she was still digging in her flower beds but had to stop because her knee finally gave out and because of her age they won't replace it.
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i had a great aunt and uncle who both chain smoked all their lives and were in the best of health right up until they died. they were beyond old, but never needed to go to a nursing home or have people help them around the house. But i also had a beloved cousin who died from lung cancer at 37 from smoking.
My personal belief is you are either prone to cancer or you are not, and if you are the particles in your lungs from smoking can trigger an early production of tumours.

As for the question asked in the OP, i think they tell us it is bad because there has been such a public outcry. they had to acknowledge it. but because smoking is addictive they are not too worried.
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Re: If they want to depopulate, why do they say smoking is bad ?

Like the Georgia Guidestones say that they want to bring down world population, the Elites add toxins like aspartame to our food, GMO's, etc...

But I'm a smoker and they put big warning labels that say that smoking kills.

I just don't get it....Could smoking be actually good and they try to scare us because it may make us live longer '

Any Ideas ?
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smoking ; tabacco leaves are benificial in multiple ways ...they just don't want you to know that...
some facts I copied from a book of jeff t bowles ...I am
a smoker to and was really amazed when I read these studies.
I kept some of them just in case some other smoker would start thinking for him or herself ... thanks !hf


Smoking Prevents Alzheimer’s July 21, 2011 By MikeWASHINGTON, D.C., July 21, 2011–
An exhaustive 20 year study conducted by Washington Roast Investigators and the
American Scientific Society has conclusively concluded that smoking cigarettes prevents the devastating advance of Alzheimer’s dementia (AD). In fact the study shows that the more you smoke the less likely you are to develop the brain clogging tangles and plaques of AD. The study, financed by Phillip Morris, followed thousands of smokers over a 20 year period and found that few if any developed the disease. Theories range anywhere from an change in the blood supply to brain neurons to a chemical in tobacco that blocks plaque development. Critics on the other say contend that chain smokers die before they get Alzheimer’s. Forces International THERAPEUTIC EFFECTS OF SMOKING

Smoking lowers Parkinson's disease risk - More evidence that smoking fights Parkinson - "A new study adds to the previously reported evidence that cigarette smoking protects against Parkinson's disease. Specifically, the new research shows a temporal relationship between smoking and reduced risk of Parkinson's disease. That is, the protective effect wanes after smokers quit." Impact of Smoking on Clinical and Angiographic Restenosis After Percutaneous Coronary Intervention– This large study shows yet another benefit of smoking. This time the benefit concerns restenosis, that is, the occlusion of coronary
arteries. Smokers have much better chances to survive, heal and do well. Where is the press? Nowhere to be found, of course; we are talking about a significant positive about tobacco and smoking, which affects the health of people, don’t we? Well, come on! We are also talking about responsible media, here… people better increase their chances of death from cardiovascular disease then getting the idea that smoking may be good for them – a totally unacceptable paradox. The Oxford English Dictionary defines paradox in these terms: "A statement or tenet contrary to received opinion or belief … as being discordant with what is held to be established truth, and hence absurd or fantastic". Since the benefits of smoking are too numerous and consistent to be attributable to error or random chance, it follows that the established truth asserting that smoking is the cause of (almost) all disease cannot be true – a reality that dramatically clashes with the gigantic corruption of public health, its pharmaceutical and insurance mentors, institutions and media. Therefore, it is constantly suppressed in the interest of public health, but not of the people.

Severe Gum Recession, Less Of A Risk For Smokers - In the strange world that anti-tobacco has wrought, any research that deviates from the tobacco-is-the-root-of-all-evil template is noteworthy. Here is a study that shows that smokers are actually at lower risk from gum disease. In this page (scroll down) there is more scientific evidence from other sources about oral health and smoking. Honest scientists have always known that smoking has some benefit. From the apparent shielding effect against Parkinson's and Alzheimer's diseases to the more intangible benefits associated with well-being and tranquility, smoking tobacco in many ways is definitely good for your health.

One of the "Health Warnings" on cigarette pack in Canada. There is no solid proof for any of the diseases attributed to tobacco - just statistics and speculative associations, but the ministries of health continue to lie to the public, in a dazzling display of intellectual, professional, moral and political corruption.

Twin Study Supports Protective Effect of Smoking For Parkinson's Disease – " Dr. Tanner's group continued to see significant differences when dose was calculated until 10 years or 20 years prior to diagnosis. They conclude that this finding refutes the suggestion that individuals who smoke more are less likely to have PD because those who develop symptoms quit smoking." "‘ The inverse association of smoking dose and PD can be attributed to environmental, and not genetic, causes with near certainty," the authors write.’ Total silence from the antismoking mass media droids, of course, on this pivotal, long-range study that shows yet another benefit of smoking. The reasons are obvious, and they need no further comments. If the intention of "public health" is to inform the public about the consequences of smoking on health as it proclaims, why don’t we see "warnings" such as: "Smoking Protects against Parkinson’s Disease," or "Smoking protects against Alzheimer’s Disease," or "Smoking protects against Ulcerative Colitis" and so on, alongside with the other speculations on "tobacco-related" disease? Isn’t the function of public health to tell the citizens about ALL the effects on health of a substance? Obviously not. "Public health," today, is nothing more than a deceiving propaganda machine paid by pharmaceutical and public money to promote frauds, fears, and puritanical rhetoric dressed up in white coats.

Does tobacco smoke prevent atopic disorders? A study of two generations of Swedish residents- " In a multivariate analysis, children of mothers who smoked at least 15 cigarettes a day tended to have lower odds for suffering from allergic rhino-conjunctivitis, allergic asthma, atopic eczema and food allergy, compared to children of mothers who had never smoked ( ORs 0.6-0.7). Children of fathers who had smoked at least 15 cigarettes a day had a similar tendency (ORs 0.7-0.9)." Kids of smokers have LOWER asthma! You certainly won't see this one on the health news of BBC or ABC, as they are too busy trying to convince us that smokers "cause" asthma in their kids - and in the kids of others. That, of course, is not true, as smoking does not "cause" asthma.

Shocker: 'Villain' nicotine slays TB - " Nicotine might be a surprising alternative someday for treating stubborn forms of tuberculosis, a University of Central Florida researcher said Monday. The compound stopped the growth of tuberculosis in laboratory tests, even when used in small quantities, said Saleh Naser, an associate professor of microbiology and molecular biology at UCF. ... Most scientists agree that nicotine is the substance that causes people to become addicted to cigarettes and other tobacco products." "… But no one is suggesting that people with TB take up the potentially deadly habit of smoking." Of course not.It is much better to develop medication-resistant superbugs than to start smoking... It should be said that the "most scientists" in question are paid off by the pharmaceutical industry for their research; and that most of the aforementioned "scientists" promote the nicotine-based "cessation" products manufactured by their masters -- mysteriously without explaining whysuch an addictive substance becomes " un-addictive" when used to quit smoking!

Carbon Monoxide May Alleviate Heart Attacks And Stroke Carbon monoxide is a by-product of tobacco smoke. A report indicates very low levels of carbon monoxide may help victims of heart attacks and strokes. Carbon monoxide inhibits blood clotting, thereby dissolving harmful clots in the arteries. The researchers focused on carbon monoxide's close resemblance to nitric oxide which keeps blood vessels from dilating and prevents the buildup of white blood cells. " Recently nitric oxide has been elevated from a common air pollutant . . . to an [internal] second messenger of utmost physiological importance. Therefore, many of us may not be entirely surprised to learn that carbon monoxide can paradoxically rescue the lung from [cardiovascular blockage] injury." The pharmacological benefits of tobacco are nothing new.

Smoking Prevents Rare Skin Cancer - A researcher at the National Cancer Institute is treading treacherous waters by suggesting that smoking may act as a preventative for developing a skin cancer that primarily afflicts elderly men in Mediterranean regions of Southern Italy, Greece and Israel. Not that smoking should be recommended for that population, Dr. James Goedert is quick to assure his peers. What is important is not that smoking tobacco may help to prevent a rare form of cancer but that there is an admission by a researcher at the National Cancer Institute that there are ANY benefits to smoking.

Smoking Reduces The Risk Of Breast Cancer - A new study in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute ( May 20, 1998) reports that carriers of a particular gene mutation (which predisposes the carrier to breast cancer) who smoked cigarettes for more than 4 pack years (i.e., number of packs per day multiplied by the number of years of smoking) were found to have a statistically significant 54 percent decrease in breast cancer incidence when compared with carriers who never smoked. One strength of the study is that the reduction in incidence exceeds the 50 percent threshold. However, we think it important to point out that this was a small, case control study (only 300 cases) based on self-reported data.

Nitric oxide mediates a therapeutic effect of nicotine in ulcerative colitis - " CONCLUSIONS: Nicotine reduces circular muscle activity, predominantly through the release of nitric oxide-this appears to be 'up-regulated' in active ulcerative colitis. These findings may explain some of the therapeutic benefit from nicotine (and smoking) in ulcerative colitis and may account for the colonic motor dysfunction in active disease."

Effects of Transdermal Nicotine on Cognitive Performance in Down's Syndrome - " We investigated the effect of nicotine-agonistic stimulation with 5 mg transdermal patches, compared with placebo, on cognitive performance in five adults with the disorder. Improvements possibly related to attention and information processing were seen for Down's syndrome patients compared with healthy controls. Our preliminary findings are encouraging…" More benefits of nicotine. Of course, it is politically incorrect to say that this is a benefit of smoking - only of the pharmaceutically-produced transdermal nicotine, the one that is terribly addictive if delivered through cigarettes, but not addictive at all, and even beneficial, when delivered through patches.... Antismoking nonsense aside, nicotine gets into the body regardless of the means of delivery. And more evidence about the benefits seems to emerge quite often, though the small size of this study cannot certainly be taken as conclusive.

Nicotine Benefits- The benefits of nicotine -- and smoking -- are described in this bibliography. This information is an example of what the anti-tobacco groups do not want publicized because it fails to support their agenda. Some of the studies report benefits not just from nicotine, but from smoking itself. But of course, according to the anti-smokers, all these scientists have been "paid by the tobacco industry" ... even though this is not true. Sadly, personal slander and misinformation are the price a scientist has to pay for honest work on tobacco.

Parkinson's Disease Is Associated With Non-smoking - Bibliography of references from studies associating Parkinson's disease with non-smoking. Certain benefits of smoking are well-documented, but the anti smoking groups, backed by several medical journals (more interested in advertising revenue than in informing the population), are silent. By the way, what about the cost of non-smokers to society due to their prevailing tencency to contract Parkinson's disease?

Alzheimer's Disease Is Associated With Non-Smoking - " A statistically significant inverse relation between smoking and Alzheimer's disease was observed at all levels of analysis, with a trend towards decreasing risk with increasing consumption".

Research indicating that nicotine holds potential for non-surgical heart by-pass procedures honored by the american college of cardiology - Dr. Christopher Heeschen of Stanford University was honored by the American College of Cardiology for his research on the effect of nicotine on angiogenesis (new blood vessel growth). His work took third place in the 2,000 entry Young Investigators Competition in the category of Physiology, Pharmacology and Pathology. Dr. Heeschen presented compelling data from research done at Stanford revealing that the simple plant protein, nicotine, applied in small harmless doses, produced new blood vessel growth around blocked arteries to oxygen-starved tissue.

Smoking Your Way to Good Health - The benefits of smoking tobacco have been common knowledge for centuries. From sharpening mental acuity to maintaining optimal weight, the relatively small risks of smoking have always been outweighed by the substantial improvement to mental and physical health. Hysterical attacks on tobacco notwithstanding, smokers always weigh the good against the bad and puff away or quit according to their personal preferences. Now the same anti-tobacco enterprise that has spent billions demonizing the pleasure of smoking is providing additional reasons to smoke. Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, Tourette's Syndrome, even schizophrenia and cocaine addiction are disorders that are alleviated by tobacco. Add in the still inconclusive indication that tobacco helps to prevent colon and prostate cancer and the endorsement for smoking tobacco by the medical establishment is good news for smokers and non-smokers alike. Of course the revelation that tobacco is good for you is ruined by the pharmaceutical industry's plan to substitute the natural and relatively inexpensive tobacco plant with their overpriced and ineffective nicotine substitutions. Still, when all is said and done, the positive revelations regarding tobacco are very good reasons indeed to keep lighting those cigarettes.

Does maternal smoking hinder mother-child transmission of Helicobacter pylori infection? - " Evidence for early childhood as the critical period of Helicobacter pylori infection and for clustering of the infection within families suggests a major role of intrafamilial transmission. In a previous study, we found a strong inverse relation between maternal smoking and H. pylori infection among preschool children, suggesting the possibility that mother-child transmission of the infection may be less efficient if the mother smokes. To evaluate this hypothesis further, we carried out a subsequent population-based study in which H. pylori infection was measured by 13C-urea breath test in 947 preschool children and their mothers. We obtained detailed information on potential risk factors for infection, including maternal smoking, by standardized questionnaires. Overall, 9.8% (93 of 947) of the children and 34.7% (329 of 947) of the mothers were infected. Prevalence of infection was much lower among children of uninfected mothers (1.9%) than among children of infected mothers (24.7%). There was a strong inverse relation of children's infection with maternal smoking ( adjusted odds ratio = 0.24; 95% confidence interval = 0.12-0.49) among children of infected mothers, but not among children of uninfected mothers. These results support the hypothesis of a predominant role for mother-child transmission of H. pylori infection, which may be less efficient if the mother smokes. ". Click here for more information on smoking and pregnancy.

Risk of papillary thyroid cancer in women in relation to smoking and alcohol consumption. - " Both smoking and alcohol consumption may influence thyroid function, although the nature of these relations is not well understood. We examined the influence of tobacco and alcohol use on risk of papillary thyroid cancer in a population-based case-control study. Of 558 women with thyroid cancer diagnosed during 1988-1994 identified as eligible, 468 (83.9%) were interviewed; this analysis was restricted to women with papillary histology (N = 410). Controls (N = 574) were identified by random digit dialing, with a response proportion of 73.6%. We used logistic regression to calculate odds ratios (OR) and associated confidence intervals (CI) estimating the relative risk of papillary thyroid cancer associated with cigarette smoking and alcohol consumption. A history of ever having smoked more than 100 cigarettes was associated with a reduced risk of disease (OR = 0.7, 95% CI = 0.5-0.9). This reduction in risk was most evident in current smokers (OR = 0.5, 95% CI = 0.4-0.7). Women who reported that they had ever consumed 12 or more alcohol-containing drinks within a year were also at reduced risk (OR 0.7, 95% CI = 0.5-1.0). Similar to the association noted with smoking, the reduction in risk was primarily present among current alcohol consumers. The associations we observed, if not due to chance, may be related to actions of cigarette smoking and alcohol consumption that reduce thyroid cell proliferation through effects on thyroid stimulating hormone, estrogen, or other mechanisms. "

Urinary Cotinine Concentration Confirms the Reduced Risk of Preeclampsia with Tobacco Exposure- This study, though small, shows one of the benefits of smoking during pregnancy. " These findings, obtained by using laboratory assay, confirm the reduced risk of developing preeclampsia with tobacco exposure. (Am J Obstet Gynecol 1999;181: 1192-6.) "

Fact Sheet on Smoking and Alzheimer's- From Forest UK. Smokers have reduced risks of Alzheimer's and Parkinson's disease- Of the 19 studies, 15 found a reduce risk in smokers, and none found an increased risk.
And smoking is clearly associated with a reduced risk of Parkinson's disease, another disease in which nicotine receptors are reduced. The fact that acute administration of nicotine improves attention and information processing in AD patients adds further plausibility to the hypothesis.

The Puzzling Association between Smoking and Hypertension during Pregnancy- This large study has examined nearly 10,000 pregnant women. Conclusion: " Smoking is associated with a reduced risk of hypertension during pregnancy. The protective effect appears to continue even after cessation of smoking. Further basic research on this issue is warranted. (Am J Obstet Gynecol 1999;181: 1407-13.) Smoking: Protection Against Neural Tube Defects? - Swedish researchers have some surprising news for pregnant women who smoke: a decreased risk of neural tube defects in babies.
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Re: If they want to depopulate, why do they say smoking is bad ?
Like the Georgia Guidestones say that they want to bring down world population, the Elites add toxins like aspartame to our food, GMO's, etc...

But I'm a smoker and they put big warning labels that say that smoking kills.

I just don't get it....Could smoking be actually good and they try to scare us because it may make us live longer '

Any Ideas ?
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The answer is very easy... smoking can save you from viruses & bacterias...

Imagine you are in the elevator, and somebody sneezed in the elevator? Well the chance that a no smokers gets infected is 1000 times higher then a smoker.

NOT SMOKING MAKES US ALL VULNERABLE TO MANY DECEASE... thats why they want you to quite smoking... they want to infect you!!!
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You can make the same argument in favor of drugs. There is very little publicity of the dangers alcohol in health.

You can make the same argument in auto safety. Some people think we should not have speed limits.

Some people think the EPA should be shut down. I remember the 1960s and how bad the smog was in the cities and there were way fewer cars and people then. I remember dead rivers and remember with a river in Cleveland caught fire.

I object to how they have dramatically increased taxes on tobacco. The government people know that will only stop some people from smoking. It was done because enough people quit smoking that tax revenues were falling so they increased the tax to level it out. Some of us have a problem quitting.

They say smoking causes a lot of medical expenses. Well, so does life. You have to go some time and the government and the medical community have made that extraordinarily expensive.

I'm in favor of depopulation. Not much is done about it and I fear the day when a fascist government takes charge.
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It's not the tobacco, it's the additives that will get you . Smoke natural tobacco.
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Smoking isn't as bad as they say it is.

It is a cover for increasing cancer rates from above ground nuclear testing.

Everyday we breath in radioactive particles from nuclear testing decades ago. But you won't hear a peep about that. Even though we both know those particles are still circulating the globe as we speak.
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You don't have to smoke to take nicotine these days
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Smoking isn't as bad as they say it is.

It is a cover for increasing cancer rates from above ground nuclear testing.

Everyday we breath in radioactive particles from nuclear testing decades ago.
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I agree with this however I think 50% at least of lung cancer is due to natural Radon Gas, also much of it from mining from digging up the ground where it resides.
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The answer is very easy... smoking can save you from viruses & bacterias...

Imagine you are in the elevator, and somebody sneezed in the elevator? Well the chance that a no smokers gets infected is 1000 times higher then a smoker.

NOT SMOKING MAKES US ALL VULNERABLE TO MANY DECEASE... thats why they want you to quite smoking... they want to infect you!!!



yes , this was my conclusion also .peace
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It's not the tobacco, it's the additives that will get you . Smoke natural tobacco.
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Thats is false... the additives are cacao, sugar, milk powder... they are all natural products.

They want you to believe lies!!! Truth is Tabacco save lives
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Smoking isn't as bad as they say it is.

It is a cover for increasing cancer rates from above ground nuclear testing.

Everyday we breath in radioactive particles from nuclear testing decades ago.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


I agree with this however I think 50% at least of lung cancer is due to natural Radon Gas, also much of it from mining from digging up the ground where it resides.
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Yes, radon is also an increasing issue due to the oil industry.

In fact, oil is radioactive. Some refineries are so radioactive they have to abandon the site.
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It's not the tobacco, it's the additives that will get you . Smoke natural tobacco.
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Thats is false... the additives are cacao, sugar, milk powder... they are all natural products.


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Yeah and eating them is fine not setting fire to them and inhaling the smoke.
But there is 100's of other by products of combustion of tobacco smoke.
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global socialists commnist NWO healhcare system doesn want to pay for it
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Smoking isn't as bad as they say it is.

It is a cover for increasing cancer rates from above ground nuclear testing.

Everyday we breath in radioactive particles from nuclear testing decades ago.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


I agree with this however I think 50% at least of lung cancer is due to natural Radon Gas, also much of it from mining from digging up the ground where it resides.
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Yes, radon is also an increasing issue due to the oil industry.

In fact, oil is radioactive. Some refineries are so radioactive they have to abandon the site.
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I think where they dig up the ground, then grow tobacco there.
The tobacco absorbs the radon out of the ground it seems up from disturbing the deep earth and radon is in the tobacco as it grows.
People who live in areas with high radon concentrations especially those with basements and cellars have some seriously high lung cancer rates.
Here we have almost no radon and lung cancer is low, but skin cancer is high due to the Sun.
And I would say oil is indeed radioactive, and burning it and putting out the exhaust will not remove radiation and we breathe that in.
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Re: If they want to depopulate, why do they say smoking is bad ?
Not my subject but a candle light works like a planet ?

Its too cool to throw away.
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It's not the tobacco, it's the additives that will get you . Smoke natural tobacco.
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Thats is false... the additives are cacao, sugar, milk powder... they are all natural products.

They want you to believe lies!!! Truth is Tabacco save lives
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I am a pipe smoker. Only smoke high end pure tobacco. With good pipe tobacco, once you open a tin, you have a window of 2 weeks before it dries out (unless you put it in a humidor). The dangerous thing about regular cigs is that they add chemicals to keep the tobacco from drying out, and also to soften the harshness of the smoke (pure tobacco is too harsh to be inhaled).

In its raw form, tobacco has many amazing curative properties. For me, the most noteworthy is the ability to heal and strengthen neural networks in the brain that deteriorate with age -- drastically decreasing the odds of dementia or alzheimers.
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The atmosphere is here thanks to two heaters.
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It's never been about your health.

It's been about wealth redistribution and the destruction of an industry and an economic power base.

Tobacco companies pre 1990s were some of the most prosperous, technologically advanced, and economic powerhouses in the world.

As soon as the government started taxing them into oblivion, regulating it, and pushing campaigns to remove it from society.

I'm not sure what the tobacco companies did, but I imagine they didn't play ball with washington, so washington leveled their tax men, media moguls, and destroyed the industry.
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Like the Georgia Guidestones say that they want to bring down world population, the Elites add toxins like aspartame to our food, GMO's, etc...

But I'm a smoker and they put big warning labels that say that smoking kills.

I just don't get it....Could smoking be actually good and they try to scare us because it may make us live longer '

Any Ideas ?
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It takes to long for people to die from smoking. Heroine is better.
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It's all the chemicals in a cig that is bad , not the smoking of regular organic tobacco. The Indians smoked tobacco all the time, and so did other tribal people. They didn't die of lung cancer. I work in a big city.... very popular Cancer Ctr and I collect cancer data. 75% of the lung cancer people I work up never smoked. 20% were old and quit decades ago, and about 5% are current smokers. I do know one thing.... brain tumors have tripled in the past few yrs. (benign and malignant) I don't care what TV says, in fact, usually the opposite is true, and especially with healthcare.
i.e organic tobacco is bad but cell phones are fine. lol
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Like the Georgia Guidestones say that they want to bring down world population, the Elites add toxins like aspartame to our food, GMO's, etc...

But I'm a smoker and they put big warning labels that say that smoking kills.

I just don't get it....Could smoking be actually good and they try to scare us because it may make us live longer '

Any Ideas ?
 Quoting: Grinder




i think it's because of the power of suggestion and conditioning the mind to make the body ill. In research test studies, it has been proven obvious with the use of placebos that the mind has an important role in how the body acts or reacts in response to both diseases and treatments.

Notice, there aren't any researchers or doctors out there looking for a way to make tobacco less addictive or less harmful for those who are unable to quit.. not to be confused with simply offering alternative nicotine supplements and delivery methods. Those products have not been proven to work for everyone, and the nicotine itself has been classified as a carcinogen in itself. There are plenty of people in the world and especially other countries who haven't had any illnesses associated with tobacco, yet those people are left unstudied and are virtually non-existent in mainstream public statistics info. Mainly because those people aren't frequently visiting doctors for those types of ailments and are 'invisible' to the data composition.

Thought focus, attitude, and overall feelings of oneself all have the power to effect the body both good ways and bad. Also the mind can even trick itself into sending the body real responses and symptoms of illness based on external input which can be seen in cases of sympathy pregnancy symptoms in husbands while their wives are with child, and cases of 'mass hysteria' type of illnesses.





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