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NY Times ramping up to have dietary supplements (vitamins included!) REGULATED by the FDA!

 
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New data suggests that his is not an isolated case. Dietary supplements account for nearly 20 percent of drug-related liver injuries that turn up in hospitals, up from 7 percent a decade ago, according to an analysis by a national network of liver specialists. The research included only the most severe cases of liver damage referred to a representative group of hospitals around the country, and the investigators said they were undercounting the actual number of cases.

While many patients recover once they stop taking the supplements and receive treatment, a few require liver transplants or die because of liver failure. Naïve teenagers are not the only consumers at risk, the researchers said. Many are middle-aged women who turn to dietary supplements that promise to burn fat or speed up weight loss.

“It’s really the Wild West,” said Dr. Herbert L. Bonkovsky, the director of the liver, digestive and metabolic disorders laboratory at Carolinas HealthCare System in Charlotte, N.C. “When people buy these dietary supplements, it’s anybody’s guess as to what they’re getting.”

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“There unfortunately are criminals that feel it’s a business opportunity to spike some products and sell them as dietary supplements,” said Duffy MacKay, a spokesman for the Council for Responsible Nutrition, a supplement industry trade group. “It’s the fringe of the industry, but as you can see, it is affecting some consumers.” More popular supplements like vitamins, minerals, probiotics and fish oil had not been linked to “patterns of adverse effects,” he said.

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Americans spend an estimated $32 billion on dietary supplements every year, attracted by unproven claims that various pills and powders will help them lose weight, build muscle and fight off everything from colds to chronic illnesses. About half of Americans use dietary supplements, and most of them take more than one product at a time.

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But the supplement business is largely unregulated. In recent years, critics of the industry have called for measures that would force companies to prove that their products are safe, genuine and made in accordance with strict manufacturing standards before they reach the market.

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“When a product is regulated, you know the benefits and the risks and you can make an informed decision about whether or not to take it,” he said. “With supplements, you don’t have efficacy data and you don’t have safety data, so it’s just a black box.”


More at [link to www.nytimes.com]


Editing to add this:

In the article, it says vitamins aren't the issue, however all of the vitamins in my cabinet are listed as dietary supplements which means if they want to regulate dietary supplements, vitamins WOULD be included. Even my organic Nature's Way coconut oil is listed as a dietary supplement!!

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For sure, they are going for regulations!
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For sure, they are going for regulations!
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Yes, and since it says in the article Americans spend 32 billion on supplements, there's money involved in this. Taking away from big pharmaceuticals in particular.
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So it's weight loss bullshit and not vitamins.
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It looks like it's time to form a vitamin sector monopoly to go along with banking, social media, search engine, etc. Noam Sayin
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So it's weight loss bullshit and not vitamins.
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Well, I think that's a grey area....not all supplements are weight loss supplements. Glucosamine and chondroitin are very popular supplements used for joint pain, just off the top of my head.
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So it's weight loss bullshit and not vitamins.
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Well, I think that's a grey area....not all supplements are weight loss supplements. Glucosamine and chondroitin are very popular supplements used for joint pain, just off the top of my head.
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EDITING THIS, to add that yes, this WOULD include vitamins. I just looked at the myriad of stuff I take, my multiviamin is listed as a dietary supplement, as well as my coconut oil. So vitamins, WOULD be included.
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Its also stuff the fights cancer. Ive had kin that had non hogkins lymphoma tumor disappear from going balls out supplement crazy.

Regulating supplements is just another way that they want to kill us.
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Its also stuff the fights cancer. Ive had kin that had non hogkins lymphoma tumor disappear from going balls out supplement crazy.

Regulating supplements is just another way that they want to kill us.
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Yep. I started taking ginger, which is supposed to help prevent cancer. Even though it's basically a food, any of these are considered dietary supplements.
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This will be the end of the Democrat party forever!
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For sure, they are going for regulations!
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Yes, and since it says in the article Americans spend 32 billion on supplements, there's money involved in this. Taking away from big pharmaceuticals in particular.
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No they want that 32 billion for obamacare
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For sure, they are going for regulations!
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Yes, and since it says in the article Americans spend 32 billion on supplements, there's money involved in this. Taking away from big pharmaceuticals in particular.
 Quoting: Laura Bow


No they want that 32 billion for obamacare
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But if they have no way to naturally supplement their ailments, they'll HAVE to go to the doctor...
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They've been threatening with this since Bush.
I hope this is only a threat now too.
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New data suggests that his is not an isolated case. Dietary supplements account for nearly 20 percent of drug-related liver injuries that turn up in hospitals, up from 7 percent a decade ago, according to an analysis by a national network of liver specialists. The research included only the most severe cases of liver damage referred to a representative group of hospitals around the country, and the investigators said they were undercounting the actual number of cases.

While many patients recover once they stop taking the supplements and receive treatment, a few require liver transplants or die because of liver failure. Naïve teenagers are not the only consumers at risk, the researchers said. Many are middle-aged women who turn to dietary supplements that promise to burn fat or speed up weight loss.

“It’s really the Wild West,” said Dr. Herbert L. Bonkovsky, the director of the liver, digestive and metabolic disorders laboratory at Carolinas HealthCare System in Charlotte, N.C. “When people buy these dietary supplements, it’s anybody’s guess as to what they’re getting.”

...

“There unfortunately are criminals that feel it’s a business opportunity to spike some products and sell them as dietary supplements,” said Duffy MacKay, a spokesman for the Council for Responsible Nutrition, a supplement industry trade group. “It’s the fringe of the industry, but as you can see, it is affecting some consumers.” More popular supplements like vitamins, minerals, probiotics and fish oil had not been linked to “patterns of adverse effects,” he said.

...

Americans spend an estimated $32 billion on dietary supplements every year, attracted by unproven claims that various pills and powders will help them lose weight, build muscle and fight off everything from colds to chronic illnesses. About half of Americans use dietary supplements, and most of them take more than one product at a time.

...

But the supplement business is largely unregulated. In recent years, critics of the industry have called for measures that would force companies to prove that their products are safe, genuine and made in accordance with strict manufacturing standards before they reach the market.

...

“When a product is regulated, you know the benefits and the risks and you can make an informed decision about whether or not to take it,” he said. “With supplements, you don’t have efficacy data and you don’t have safety data, so it’s just a black box.”


More at [link to www.nytimes.com]


Editing to add this:

In the article, it says vitamins aren't the issue, however all of the vitamins in my cabinet are listed as dietary supplements which means if they want to regulate dietary supplements, vitamins WOULD be included. Even my organic Nature's Way coconut oil is listed as a dietary supplement!!
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Why shouldn't they be regulated? Do you think it's a good idea for manufactures to be able to sell anything without any control on quality or claims?

What are you suggestion, if that this is regulated, they all disappear and are no longer able to be purchased?

Use your fucking head.
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A quarter million people die a year from pharmaceuticals...

zero die a year from dietary supplements...
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New data suggests that his is not an isolated case. Dietary supplements account for nearly 20 percent of drug-related liver injuries that turn up in hospitals, up from 7 percent a decade ago, according to an analysis by a national network of liver specialists. The research included only the most severe cases of liver damage referred to a representative group of hospitals around the country, and the investigators said they were undercounting the actual number of cases.

While many patients recover once they stop taking the supplements and receive treatment, a few require liver transplants or die because of liver failure. Naïve teenagers are not the only consumers at risk, the researchers said. Many are middle-aged women who turn to dietary supplements that promise to burn fat or speed up weight loss.

“It’s really the Wild West,” said Dr. Herbert L. Bonkovsky, the director of the liver, digestive and metabolic disorders laboratory at Carolinas HealthCare System in Charlotte, N.C. “When people buy these dietary supplements, it’s anybody’s guess as to what they’re getting.”

...

“There unfortunately are criminals that feel it’s a business opportunity to spike some products and sell them as dietary supplements,” said Duffy MacKay, a spokesman for the Council for Responsible Nutrition, a supplement industry trade group. “It’s the fringe of the industry, but as you can see, it is affecting some consumers.” More popular supplements like vitamins, minerals, probiotics and fish oil had not been linked to “patterns of adverse effects,” he said.

...

Americans spend an estimated $32 billion on dietary supplements every year, attracted by unproven claims that various pills and powders will help them lose weight, build muscle and fight off everything from colds to chronic illnesses. About half of Americans use dietary supplements, and most of them take more than one product at a time.

...

But the supplement business is largely unregulated. In recent years, critics of the industry have called for measures that would force companies to prove that their products are safe, genuine and made in accordance with strict manufacturing standards before they reach the market.

...

“When a product is regulated, you know the benefits and the risks and you can make an informed decision about whether or not to take it,” he said. “With supplements, you don’t have efficacy data and you don’t have safety data, so it’s just a black box.”


More at [link to www.nytimes.com]


Editing to add this:

In the article, it says vitamins aren't the issue, however all of the vitamins in my cabinet are listed as dietary supplements which means if they want to regulate dietary supplements, vitamins WOULD be included. Even my organic Nature's Way coconut oil is listed as a dietary supplement!!
 Quoting: Laura Bow


Why shouldn't they be regulated? Do you think it's a good idea for manufactures to be able to sell anything without any control on quality or claims?

What are you suggestion, if that this is regulated, they all disappear and are no longer able to be purchased?

Use your fucking head.
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There's already a big disclaimer on the bottle of anything purchased that is considered a dietary supplement. It even stated that vitamins, minerals, probiotics, fish oil, etc. were NOT linked to adverse effects.
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Sucks. I don't know about others but vitamin D3 supplement is absolutely a must. Would suck if they tried to regulate it making it much more expensive to buy even at much lower dosage.
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So it's weight loss bullshit and not vitamins.
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This also ties in with their plans to regulate caffeine.



A father-of-four died of a massive caffeine overdose after eating a pack of instant-energy mints, an inquest heard.


John Jackson, 40, was found dead after he snacked on the Hero mints bought from shops close to his home – seemingly unaware he had been consuming dangerous quantities of the stimulant


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For sure, they are going for regulations!
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Yes, and since it says in the article Americans spend 32 billion on supplements, there's money involved in this. Taking away from big pharmaceuticals in particular.
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No they want that 32 billion for obamacare
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They can't have it! If I can't buy what I choose on the free market without some fucking prescription, then I'll buy it on the street, grow my own, or die.

I'll never beg for anything from a doctor, bureaucrat or pharmacist.
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Sucks. I don't know about others but vitamin D3 supplement is absolutely a must. Would suck if they tried to regulate it making it much more expensive to buy even at much lower dosage.
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Get a home tanning bed and spare lamps. I can guarantee that they will try to regulate anything and everything. These bastards are of that mentality.
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Go to a dollar store and buy the cheap vitamins there. Buy the gel ones or liquid vitamins. I won't buy the pills. I doubt they never dissolve.

Now.
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Sucks. I don't know about others but vitamin D3 supplement is absolutely a must. Would suck if they tried to regulate it making it much more expensive to buy even at much lower dosage.
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Get a home tanning bed and spare lamps. I can guarantee that they will try to regulate anything and everything. These bastards are of that mentality.
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Yeah. Just have to make sure I get the right kind of bulbs that emit UVB. Some tanning bed don't do that at all.
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Go to a dollar store and buy the cheap vitamins there. Buy the gel ones or liquid vitamins. I won't buy the pills. I doubt they never dissolve.

Now.
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This is a good point and I try to get liquid when I can...does the dollar store have liquid vitamins though? They seem to be harder to find :(
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And how many "liver injuries" are caused by Tylenol. I hell of a lot more than are caused by diet suppliments i bet.
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Go to a dollar store and buy the cheap vitamins there. Buy the gel ones or liquid vitamins. I won't buy the pills. I doubt they never dissolve.

Now.
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This is a good point and I try to get liquid when I can...does the dollar store have liquid vitamins though? They seem to be harder to find :(
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family dollar has a whole isle dedicated to them!
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