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Photo of unidentified objects in sky exactly where ISON remnants would be, taken Dec 24th. (SOLVED: Frontal Airplane Lights) [DEAD TOPIC]

 
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Photo of unidentified objects in sky exactly where ISON remnants would be, taken Dec 24th. (SOLVED: Frontal Airplane Lights) [DEAD TOPIC]
Latest Update: SOLVED: I'm sure someone already suggested it and if so, I'll give them credit. Can confirm without any doubt these were incoming jets from Charlotte airport at a direct vector towards the photographer. Two telltale signs were the light color and the fact they were seen steady then slowly going out. Sorry to disappoint but I am now sure these had NOTHING to do with ISON.
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As per the original photo and info provided in post...

Thread: Strange Objects In The North Western Sky...?

I was attempting to "explain away" the lights, I found not only were they extremely unlikely to be stars/planets (according to info provided), but they were in the PRECISE location ISON would have been following it's original trajectory (before the whole "it's dead" routine), if seen by the naked eye. Also, other sightings were confirmed and it was stated this was a "new" appearance. Complete breakdown below.

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So, the OP in that thread posted the following pic of 2 "strange objects" in the sky.
[link to img19.imageshack.us]
Nothing too spectacular at first. OP never even mentioned ISON. Just a couple of lights over a hill beyond a pasture.

Backtracking to 5:30 pm EST, facing NW, from a random city in NC we get this...
[link to i.imgur.com]
Nothing else in the sky at that time that explains seeing ONLY 2 bright lights and nothing else. My first thought was Venus & ??? but that would be SW. Other stars in that direction are too dim to be seen without being able to see others as well.
*Using EXIF info from the original photo, I have a new, EXACT view from the time/location.
[link to i.imgur.com]

Could these be say, Chinese lanterns/balloons/whatever floating in the sky? Well sure, but that would mean 2 amazing coincidences. #1 They supposedly did not move indicating a far distance and not close to ground. #2 The mystery objects were conveniently, out of the ENTIRE sky, in the precise spot of where ISON would be. (Precise by visual standards, not telescopic.)

Exif data checks out for location and time taken, as do the OP's handle and others in the thread that confirmed also seeing the lights as. There is even a pasture and hill side to the NW of the Exif coordinates as shown. No stars or planets can be seen in the photo. ISON is the only thing in that direction that makes sense. Very near the original path if not exact.

Can anyone confirm/debunk this???
*Could they be -balloons -swamp gas -other oddity? Yes. I am not claiming 100% until someone else confirms. (See #2 below) But the amazing fact is OP from orig thread and other non ACs saw these precisely in the correct direction when no other stars were visible.

Only 3 possible answers can exist here, #1 OP went to a lot of trouble to make it appear he found ISON without saying anything about it. Or #2, In an amazing coincidence, mysterious lights (non-moving) are seen EXACTLY in the sky where ISON should be by original path give or take a small amount, out of the ENTIRE sky. #3 This is a photograph of ISON or something related to it.

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Update: Further reports coming in that the objects fade as the Sun sets and are not night visible. Still looking for more repeat sightings and confirmation of location.

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Latest Update: SOLVED: I'm sure someone already suggested it and if so, I'll give them credit. Can confirm without any doubt these were incoming jets from Charlotte airport at a direct vector towards the photographer. Two telltale signs were the light color and the fact they were seen steady then slowly going out. Sorry to disappoint but I am now sure these had NOTHING to do with ISON.
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Re: Photo of unidentified objects in sky exactly where ISON remnants would be, taken Dec 24th. (SOLVED: Frontal Airplane Lights) [DEAD TOPIC]
As per the info in post...

Thread: Strange Objects In The North Western Sky...?

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So, the OP in that thread posted the following pic of 2 "strange objects" in the sky.
[link to img19.imageshack.us]

As per the location of NC, 5:30 pm EST, facing NW we get this...
[link to i.imgur.com]

Exif data checks out, as do the OP and others in the thread that confirmed seeing the lights as non-moving objects. There is even a pasture and hill side to the NW of the Exif coordinates as shown in pic. No stars or even venus can be seen in the photo. ISON is the only thing in that direction that makes sense. Very near the original path if not exact.

Can anyone confirm/debunk this???


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...Will update with more specifics if appropriate...
 Quoting: Shenzon


and what was the original path?
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Re: Photo of unidentified objects in sky exactly where ISON remnants would be, taken Dec 24th. (SOLVED: Frontal Airplane Lights) [DEAD TOPIC]
That's a complex question. The simple answer is see this to see where it "would have been" now....
[link to i.imgur.com]

Note the location, time, and direction meet OP's (other thread) details.
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Working on it.
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Re: Photo of unidentified objects in sky exactly where ISON remnants would be, taken Dec 24th. (SOLVED: Frontal Airplane Lights) [DEAD TOPIC]
Adding updates to detailed evaluation including rebuttals. No new info as of yet nor has this been debunked intelligently.
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Airplanes move. OP stated "We couldn't really see them moving" & "They definitely weren't planes or stars." Another poster who saw them said "I watched for about 15 minutes to see if it was possibly planes but they did not move."

You might be right but the evidence seems to say your not at this time.
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more info!!!
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more info!!!
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Waiting on the taker of the photo to reply to some questions and also might have a surprise shortly.

P.S. Thanks for the pin.
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putin
The "Putin" response is just nauseating to interesting posts.
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more info!!!
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Waiting on the taker of the photo to reply to some questions and also might have a surprise shortly.

P.S. Thanks for the pin.
 Quoting: Shenzon


woop woop
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Re: Photo of unidentified objects in sky exactly where ISON remnants would be, taken Dec 24th. (SOLVED: Frontal Airplane Lights) [DEAD TOPIC]
Where I live in Texas according to Stellarium, ISON is NNE right at the horizon. It will be up a little higher so I may can see it soon. It's below the big dipper. So if it stayed on the same projected path and all these things are still tracking it (Stellarium, SkyLive) why aren't we being flooded with pics?

[link to theskylive.com]
[link to www.cometison2013.co.uk]

Looking at Stellarium, in NC it would be a little higher in the sky than where I live but still NNE not NW.

Last Edited by ~~**lisa**~~ on 12/25/2013 03:07 AM
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Nice work piecing this together. 5*'s and waiting for more info.
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Re: Photo of unidentified objects in sky exactly where ISON remnants would be, taken Dec 24th. (SOLVED: Frontal Airplane Lights) [DEAD TOPIC]
Where I live in Texas according to Stellarium, ISON is NNE right at the horizon. It will be up a little higher so I may can see it soon. It's below the big dipper. So if it stayed on the same projected path and all these things are still tracking it (Stellarium, SkyLive) why aren't we being flooded with pics?

[link to theskylive.com]
[link to www.cometison2013.co.uk]

:Big Smile Smiley:
 Quoting: ~~**lisa**~~


Unknown. 3 possibilities.

1- It's not Ison.
2- The reflection of the sun shined just so as to show debris brighter than usual in the photo.
3- No one was looking for it anymore OR is looking for it but too closely, not a wide enough view.

Whatever the case, we'll find out soon enough won't we.
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Re: Photo of unidentified objects in sky exactly where ISON remnants would be, taken Dec 24th. (SOLVED: Frontal Airplane Lights) [DEAD TOPIC]
i knew ison wasn't dead


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Jet contrails. Merry Christmas!
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wtf
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Re: Photo of unidentified objects in sky exactly where ISON remnants would be, taken Dec 24th. (SOLVED: Frontal Airplane Lights) [DEAD TOPIC]
I can see the Big Dipper clear and there's nothing under it, not even a star :(( Town is that way tho, maybe when it gets up higher and out of the light... East is the moon with the top half gone, that's freaky as hell there.

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I can see the Big Dipper clear and there's nothing under it, not even a star :(( Town is that way tho, maybe when it gets up higher and out of the light... East is the moon with the top half gone, that's freaky as hell there.

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Not sure where in TX you are (it's a BiG state) but for the most part, it would barely be clearing the horizon now and we don't know how "off course" it might be. Look in the area below the second star of the handle end (Mizar) about an equal length to the big dipper in about an hour.
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Re: Photo of unidentified objects in sky exactly where ISON remnants would be, taken Dec 24th. (SOLVED: Frontal Airplane Lights) [DEAD TOPIC]
I saw three of these in Houston at approximately 10pm last night. I also suspected them to be planes but one minute they were still and the next they drifted off. Lights seemed similar to stars the movement seemed similar to a chopper. Not too sure about directed coordinates. Last night I saw a streaks in the sky similar to a missile without an explosion that vanished seconds later. A lot of weird things are showing up this week in the sky in NW Houston. Drones included.
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Re: Photo of unidentified objects in sky exactly where ISON remnants would be, taken Dec 24th. (SOLVED: Frontal Airplane Lights) [DEAD TOPIC]
Around 9pm last night (christmas eve) as we were leaving the house, in mesa, Az. I noticed 2 lights in the NE brighter than any star, wasnt a plane as they both didn't move much at all, and I watched for about 15 minutes.
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Dude I hate to call someone a dumbass on Christmas morn. but you are the a #1 dumbass of the day. Ison is gone and if it wasn't it wouldn't be in the west but in the northeast. DUMBASS
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Around 9pm last night (christmas eve) as we were leaving the house, in mesa, Az. I noticed 2 lights in the NE brighter than any star, wasnt a plane as they both didn't move much at all, and I watched for about 15 minutes.
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15 min and how many good picts?


Get with it ISON tards,

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hiya.. where should _ lók for ison being in argentina? time? thanx
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Castor and Pollux.
Around 9pm last night (christmas eve) as we were leaving the house, in mesa, Az. I noticed 2 lights in the NE brighter than any star, wasnt a plane as they both didn't move much at all, and I watched for about 15 minutes.
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15 min and how many good picts?


Get with it ISON tards,

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Dude I hate to call someone a dumbass on Christmas morn. but you are the a #1 dumbass of the day. Ison is gone and if it wasn't it wouldn't be in the west but in the northeast. DUMBASS
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Awww, you could be a little nicer about it, are you a comet rascist? We all know how you love Lovejoy! No comet favoritism on GLP, all comet doom is great in our eyes, hee hee. Just kidding. You just seemed a little grumpy this marvelous Christmas morning, hope your not. Have a nice holiday and please, for Christmas sake, please expand on your post and more nicely. Thank you.

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