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Apocalypse: Franciscan Order threatens Pope Francis

 
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Shocking: Franciscan Order threatens Pope Francis:

After Pope Francis declared war against the powerful Franciscan Catholic order, closing about 50 convents, seminaries and churches,and exiling to Africa about 100 friars, the powerful Franciscan order has threatened Pope Francis, they say they will split from the Catholic Church.



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I find this extremely important.

Francis seems to be quietly undermining the foundations of the Catholic Church. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up banning the cross and the traditional order of its mass in favor of some humanistic frenzy of new dogmas, where Jesus, sin, salvation and redemption through Our Lord will have no place at all.


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1 John 1–3._ 1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God.

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He's just trying to make the religion less insane and stupid, but he can't, because his very position as it exists is insane and stupid.
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No impact on reality. The Jesuit order is on complete control of all the orders of the Roman Catholic Church.

Anyone speaking out against Pope Francis will quickly disappear quickly off of the scene. Truth.
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This is very interesting.
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Dominicans v Franciscans

interesting....
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He that speaks like a dragon...looks like a lamb.
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this is interesting, still is he a bad guy? or is he the good guy and the fransican order are the bad guys?

maybe the fransican order is the pedo order francis mentioned

and isnt it funny that pope Francis is taking on the franciscans..

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He that speaks like a dragon...looks like a lamb.
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sounds like Jesus back in the day
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the new pope is good peeps

he follows truism and st matthew not old schoold cath bullshit

he is a truist and worshipper of the modern day god st matthew aka matthew g aka matthew james bradley green

popes cool and hes helping catholics tune into the real rilla
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pope promotes the poor and believes all relig ar true

this a a great breakthru for the caths.

now catholics and truists are the high religions and the cath would be left in the past without francis guiding them to god(S)
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He's the False Prophet, wait until he screws around with the Eucharist . All has to be fulfilled . Bring it on!!!
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He's the False Prophet, wait until he screws around with the Eucharist . All has to be fulfilled . Bring it on!!!
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now way hes the first real pope in all of earth history.

he is the only pope to embrace st matthew and truism
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yeah actually the new pope does seem like a good guy, the thing with him keeping a modest apartment, washing the feet of poor ppl (no egomaniac priest would do that) and promoting peace/openmindedness acceptance and such

i cant see him being a bad guy.. then again he could be emperor palpatine in hidig
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he set aside petty shit to embrace the truth of all gods. it takes a great man to do such a thing. he is great nd im truist not catholic/ he rocks
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This is more scary than you think, Saint Francis the founder of the Franciscan order identified Pope Francis as the Antichrist.........really scary... it seems that the Franciscan Order will follow the instructions of Saint Francis and split from the Catholic Church:



Shortly before he died, St. Francis of Assisi called together his followers and warned them of the coming troubles, saying:

1. The time is fast approaching in which there will be great trials and afflictions; perplexities and dissensions, both spiritual and temporal, will abound; the charity of many will grow cold, and the malice of the wicked will increase.

2. The devils will have unusual power, the immaculate purity of our Order, and of others, will be so much obscured that there will be very few Christians who will obey the true Sovereign Pontiff and the Roman Church with loyal hearts and perfect charity. At the time of this tribulation a man, not canonically elected, will be raised to the Pontificate, who, by his cunning, will endeavour to draw many into error and death.

3. Then scandals will be multiplied, our Order will be divided, and many others will be entirely destroyed, because they will consent to error instead of opposing it.

4. There will be such diversity of opinions and schisms among the people, the religious and the clergy, that, except those days were shortened, according to the words of the Gospel, even the elect would be led into error, were they not specially guided, amid such great confusion, by the immense mercy of God.

5. Then our Rule and manner of life will be violently opposed by some, and terrible trials will come upon us. Those who are found faithful will receive the crown of life; but woe to those who, trusting solely in their Order, shall fall into tepidity, for they will not be able to support the temptations permitted for the proving of the elect.

6. Those who preserve in their fervour and adhere to virtue with love and zeal for the truth, will suffer injuries and, persecutions as rebels and schismatics; for their persecutors, urged on by the evil spirits, will say they are rendering a great service to God by destroying such pestilent men from the face of the earth. but the Lord will be the refuge of the afflicted, and will save all who trust in Him. And in order to be like their Head, [Christ] these, the elect, will act with confidence, and by their death will purchase for themselves eternal life; choosing to obey God rather than man, they will fear nothing, and they will prefer to perish rather than consent to falsehood and perfidy.

7. Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it under foot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days JESUS CHRIST WILL SEND THEM NOT A TRUE PASTOR, BUT A DESTROYER."
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interesting
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Fr Paul Kramer: Francis the Destroyer :
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I don't know what it is but I have not liked the guy from the moment he became pope. All sweetness and light in front of the camera but doing this stuff behind.
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He's the False Prophet, wait until he screws around with the Eucharist . All has to be fulfilled . Bring it on!!!
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Exactly !
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He's just trying to make the religion less insane and stupid, but he can't, because his very position as it exists is insane and stupid.
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you sir are brain washed by the like of peter joseph and etc flakes
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He's the False Prophet, wait until he screws around with the Eucharist . All has to be fulfilled . Bring it on!!!
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I beg you all to read a very small but powerful book called AA-1025.

It is about the militant take over of the Catholic Church by the Masson's.

This is a link to the free book online.
Please read this as it pertains to what is going on within the Catholic Church now. They are dismantling it and many may say....'It's about time!" For you all I say this, YOU know not what you say. Truly.

Here is the link:
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This is a serious account of a high ranking Cardinal that was in the KGB and his total mission was to destroy the Catholic Church from within, little by little after implementing Vatican II. They have done a great job to do away with the LATIN MASS. THE LATIN RITE.
THINK OF THE MANY EXEOCISTS THAT HAVE USED LATIN PRAYERS,

Also I would like to explore with you all an agreement that happened between Communist Russian orthodoxy and the Catholic Church. It is called THE METZ AGREEMENT. IT IS VERY IMPORTNAT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS AGREEMENT MEANT.


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The Pact of Metz

Atila Sinke Guimarães



Why didn’t the last Ecumenical Council condemn Communism? A secret accord made at Metz supplies an answer.

Those who pass by the convent of the Little Sisters of the Poor in Borny - on the outskirts of the French city of Metz - never imagine that something of transcendental importance occurred in the residence of Fr. Lagarde, the convent’s chaplain. In a hall of this religious residence in August 1962 - two months before Vatican Council II opened - a secret meeting of the greatest importance between two high-ranking personalities took place.


A007HT1

Another player:
Cardinal Tisserant



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One player at Metz:

metrolitan Nikodin


One dignitary was a Cardinal of the Curia, Eugène Tisserant, representing Pope John XXIII; the other was metropolitan Nikodin, who spoke in the name of the Russian Schismatic Church.

This encounter had consequences that changed the direction of Council, which was already prepared to open. In effect, the meeting at Metz determined a change in the trajectory of the very History of the Church in the 20th century.

What was the matter of such great importance that was resolved at his meeting? Based on the documents that are known today, there it was established that Communism would not be condemned by Vatican Council II. In 1962, The Vatican and the Schismatic Russian Church came to an agreement. According to its terms, the Russian “Orthodox Church” agreed to send observers to Vatican II under the condition that no condemnation whatsoever of communism should be made there (1).

And why were the consequences of such a pact so far-reaching and important?

Because in the 20th century a principal enemy of the Catholic Church was Communism. As such, until Vatican II it had been condemned numerous times by the Magisterium. Moreover, in the early ’60s a new condemnation would have been quite damaging, since Communism was passing through a serious crisis, both internally and externally. On one hand, it was losing credibility inside the USSR since the people were becoming increasingly discontent with the horrendous administrative results of 45 years of Communist demagogy. On the other hand, outside the USSR Communism had not been able to persuade the workers and poor of free countries to take up its banner. In fact, up until that time it had never won a free election. Therefore, the leaders of international Communism decided that it was time to begin to change the appearances of the regime in order to retain the power they had and to experiment with new methods of conquest. So in the ‘60s President Nikita Khrushchev suddenly began to smile and talk about dialogue (2).

This would have been a particularly inopportune moment for the Pope or the Council to issue a formal condemnation, which could have either seriously damaged or possibly even destroyed the Communist regime..

A half secret act

Speaking about the liberty at Vatican II to deal with diverse topics, Professor Romano Amerio revealed some previously unpublished facts.
“The salient and half secret point that should be noted,” he stated, “is the restriction on the Council’s liberty to which John XXIII had agreed a few months earlier, in making an accord with the Orthodox Church by which the patriarchate of Moscow accepted the papal invitation to send observers to the Council, while the Pope for his part guaranteed the Council would refrain from condemning Communism. The negotiations took place at Metz in August 1962, and all the details of time and place were given at a press conference by Mgr. Paul Joseph Schmitt, the Bishop of that Diocese [newspaper Le Lorrain, 2/9/63]. The negotiations ended in an agreement signed by metropolitan Nikodim for the Orthodox Church and Cardinal Tisserant, the Dean of the Sacred College of Cardinals, for the Holy See.

“News of the agreement was given in the France Nouvelle, the central bulletin of the French communist party in the edition of January 16-22, 1963 in these terms: ‘Because the world socialist system is showing its superiority in an uncontestable fashion, and is strong through the support of hundreds and hundreds of millions of men, the Church can no longer be content with a crude anti-communism. As part of its dialogue with the Russian Orthodox Church, it has even promised there will be no direct attack on the Communist system at the Council.’ On the Catholic side, the daily La Croix of February 15, 1963 gave notice of the agreement, concluding: “‘As a consequence of this conversation, Msgr. Nikodim agreed that someone should go to Moscow carrying an invitation, on condition that guarantees were given concerning the apolitical attitude of the Council.’

“Moscow’s condition, namely that the Council should say nothing about Communism, was not, therefore, a secret, but the isolated publication of it made no impression on general opinion, as it was not taken up by the press at large and circulated, either because of the apathetic and anaesthetized attitude to Communism common in clerical circles or because the Pope took action to impose silence in the matter. Nonetheless, the agreement had a powerful, albeit silent, effect on the course of the Council when requests for a renewal of the condemnation of Communism were rejected in order to observe this agreement to say nothing about it” (3).
Thus the Counci, which made statements on capitalism and colonialism, said nothing specific about the greatest evil of the age, Communism.. While the Vatican Monsignors were smiling at the Russian Schismatic representatives, many Bishops were in prison and innumerable faithful were either persecuted or driven underground for their fidelity to the Holy Roman Catholic Church.

The Kremlin-Vatican negotiations

This important information about Vatican-Kremlin negotiations is confirmed in an article ‘The mystery of the Rome-Moscow pact’ published in the October 1989 issue of 30 Dias, which quotes statements made by the Bishop of Metz, Paul Joseph Schmitt. In a February 9, 1963 interview with the newspaper Republicain Lorrain, Mgr. Schmitt said:
“It was in our region that the ‘secret’ meeting of Cardinal Tisserant with archbishop Nikodin occurred. The exact place was the residence of Fr. Lagarde, chaplain for the Little Sister of the Poor in Borny [on the outskirts of Metz]. Here for the first time the arrival of the prelates of the Russian Church was mentioned. After this meeting, the conditions for the presence of the Russian church’s observers were established by Cardinal Willebrands, an assistant of Cardinal Bea. Archbishop Nikodin agreed that an official invitation should be sent to Moscow, with




Now, in this link, you'll find that a VERY POPULAR PRIEST NAMED "fR. MALICHI MARTTIN" Who wrote the book, "The JESUITS". Martin, a quite well-informed ex-Jesuit who offers similar details about what happened before, during, and after the Pact of Metz.




THE REASON I BRING THIS IMPORTANT ISSUES UP ABOUT RUSSIA AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THAT RIGHT NOW, RUSSIA'S PRESIDENT PUTIN AND THE POPE HAVE MET AND ARE SHOWING THEIR UNITY VERY PUBLICALLY.

Wake up, people!!

READ the above small free online book AA-1025. Then read the METZ Agreement. It outlines HOW this was going to go down....

DO NOT FORGET THAT THE 3ED SECRET OF FATIMA WAS SUSPOSE TO BE GIVEN AND READ BEFORE THE YEAR OF 1960!!!!! This was not an accident. We were being warned about the total take over by militant Communists.

RUSSIA is shining like a diamond to the world right now and most are not aware of it's implications. Putin is a Communist. Period.

Pope Francis has dogged out Capitalism then recanted and made it more politically correct by saying he meant the greedy corporations that are monopolizing all business. Yea...right.

I am afraid The REAL Pope is under "house arrest". Pope Benedict is being held hostage while this take over has occurred right under our noses.
Live and let live, for we all have our own lessons to learn.
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I wonder why he exiled some of the friars to Africa!
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This is more scary than you think, Saint Francis the founder of the Franciscan order identified Pope Francis as the Antichrist.........really scary... it seems that the Franciscan Order will follow the instructions of Saint Francis and split from the Catholic Church:
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why is this scary? is your life run by the catholic church? what does it matter if this outdated institution full of child molesters falls apart?? get a grip man.
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This is more scary than you think, Saint Francis the founder of the Franciscan order identified Pope Francis as the Antichrist.........really scary... it seems that the Franciscan Order will follow the instructions of Saint Francis and split from the Catholic Church:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52092620


why is this scary? is your life run by the catholic church? what does it matter if this outdated institution full of child molesters falls apart?? get a grip man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52097852


This outdated institution may get enough power to run all the activities on your area sooner than you think. I wouldn't be so shortsighted if I were you.
1 John 1–3._ 1Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits, whether they are of God; because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is of God, 3and every spirit that does not confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is not of God.

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This is more scary than you think, Saint Francis the founder of the Franciscan order identified Pope Francis as the Antichrist.........really scary... it seems that the Franciscan Order will follow the instructions of Saint Francis and split from the Catholic Church:
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52092620


why is this scary? is your life run by the catholic church? what does it matter if this outdated institution full of child molesters falls apart?? get a grip man.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52097852


This outdated institution may get enough power to run all the activities on your area sooner than you think. I wouldn't be so shortsighted if I were you.
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I don't think so, but you carry on worshipping them.
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RELIGION? its 2013...


the dark ages are back that way next to the plague
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He's the False Prophet, wait until he screws around with the Eucharist . All has to be fulfilled . Bring it on!!!
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Exactly !
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+1
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It certainly must have something to do with this:

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