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Did Mrs. Manfredonia call 911 from behind the Sandy Hook School dumpster?

 
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It really all comes back to the Sexton-Greenberg clan, as has been clearly shown. This was an extreme zionist arranged snf conducted psyop, and uniquely so in terms of the multiplicity of FF events over the past 18 years since OKC, and a pretty poorly arranged one at that.

Way too many mistakes.

Fortunately for them, their control of the MSM makes that largely moot.
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snf* should have been "and"...my fingers must have spazzed out or something.
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It really all comes back to the Sexton-Greenberg clan, as has been clearly shown. This was an extreme zionist arranged snf conducted psyop, and uniquely so in terms of the multiplicity of FF events over the past 18 years since OKC, and a pretty poorly arranged one at that.

Way too many mistakes.

Fortunately for them, their control of the MSM makes that largely moot.
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But...bombings have always happened. Shootings have always happened. In the old days, people would go crazy and knife an entire household, or set the general store on fire.

Was that psyop?

No offense, but what possible psyop effect could an occasional shooting or bombing have in a world where there has always been an occasional shooting or bombing?

You want psyop, disappear a whole town. Pull a schoolbus up into the air with an invisible device. Have a flash of bright light change 30 white businessmen into African Americans. You know. Something worthy of the term psyop.
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I'd even accept Mrs. Sibley & Manfredonia escaping in camo-pattern nun habits, heavily armed, on a purple ATV headed for Danbury via Rocky Glen State Park.
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It really all comes back to the Sexton-Greenberg clan, as has been clearly shown. This was an extreme zionist arranged snf conducted psyop, and uniquely so in terms of the multiplicity of FF events over the past 18 years since OKC, and a pretty poorly arranged one at that.

Way too many mistakes.

Fortunately for them, their control of the MSM makes that largely moot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52092457


But...bombings have always happened. Shootings have always happened. In the old days, people would go crazy and knife an entire household, or set the general store on fire.

Was that psyop?

No offense, but what possible psyop effect could an occasional shooting or bombing have in a world where there has always been an occasional shooting or bombing?

You want psyop, disappear a whole town. Pull a schoolbus up into the air with an invisible device. Have a flash of bright light change 30 white businessmen into African Americans. You know. Something worthy of the term psyop.
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90-pound geeks that no one has ever heard of have rarely killed 27 of the 29 people he shot at while weighted down with 40 pounds of gear and while strung out on ritalin.

That qualifies, I think.
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Good point. LOL.
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Quick note to a statement by a police officer from the CSP report, there was a woman he encountered who stated she was hiding. This officer went in around 10:45 or something. He said he could not remember her name, I'd have to find that file again, but it was in one of these statements.


The purple van, in my opinion, didn't get the attention it deserved. I covered it in this article, scrole down towards the end, I also mention Manfredonia and it includes a pic where you can see the distance of the Lanza and their house.

[link to www.insanemedia.net]

I did not include that this Jewish couple got apprehended and sentenced in New Jersey, because they had explosive material in their apartment.

[link to whitewraithe.wordpress.com]


Allegedly, the tip that led the authorities to the New York apartment was a purple Ford van tracked via satellite and by helicopter from Sandy Hook School. In route, facial recognition cameras picked up three people in the van wearing ski masks, with the third man in a nun’s habit. Ironically, it was Russian Intelligence that first reported a three-man team entered the school on the day of the shootings. RI contacted MI6, then MI6 contacted the CIA according to Duff.

In addition to the propaganda literature discovered in the apartment, authorities also found high-capacity magazines that matched the weapons used at Sandy Hook. So far, authorities have failed to locate the third individual connected to the shootings.

What seems really odd is that my search engine no longer includes the New York couple’s arrest on the first page as done before. Not a hint of their existence or alleged crimes pop-up on the initial page of any search engine. This cannot be a coincidence.

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Quick note to a statement by a police officer from the CSP report, there was a woman he encountered who stated she was hiding. This officer went in around 10:45 or something. He said he could not remember her name, I'd have to find that file again, but it was in one of these statements.


The purple van, in my opinion, didn't get the attention it deserved. I covered it in this article, scrole down towards the end, I also mention Manfredonia and it includes a pic where you can see the distance of the Lanza and their house.

[link to www.insanemedia.net]

I did not include that this Jewish couple got apprehended and sentenced in New Jersey, because they had explosive material in their apartment.

[link to whitewraithe.wordpress.com]


Allegedly, the tip that led the authorities to the New York apartment was a purple Ford van tracked via satellite and by helicopter from Sandy Hook School. In route, facial recognition cameras picked up three people in the van wearing ski masks, with the third man in a nun’s habit. Ironically, it was Russian Intelligence that first reported a three-man team entered the school on the day of the shootings. RI contacted MI6, then MI6 contacted the CIA according to Duff.

In addition to the propaganda literature discovered in the apartment, authorities also found high-capacity magazines that matched the weapons used at Sandy Hook. So far, authorities have failed to locate the third individual connected to the shootings.

What seems really odd is that my search engine no longer includes the New York couple’s arrest on the first page as done before. Not a hint of their existence or alleged crimes pop-up on the initial page of any search engine. This cannot be a coincidence.
 Quoting: LadyK74


I respectfully disagree. Since I believe it was a drill and CSP was at the school from the start the purple van is just misdirection and a topic to keep those off the scent of the real issue.

Just sayin. Take it for what it's worth tounge
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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Again--I don't share the view of some here that Sandy Hook was 100% perfectly organized and executed by some cabal of perfectly powerful individuals who have ultimate control over every single aspect of the story. If that were true, we wouldn't even be discussing Sandy Hook.

Personally, I think whatever it was, it was planned and executed by mere mortals who may have a lot of power but are no more capable than any other human of perfect planning and execution. There are ALWAYS loose ends. NO plan ever goes according to conception; no matter how much power you have, once you let those people loose, randomness and personal choice and even personal greed take over. People agree to something on the front end, but always, always, always eventually diverge. The tight-knit group unravels over time, and people make choices which benefit themselves personally at the cost of the group (and visa versa). It's just human nature.
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Yes, this makes total sense.

But some of the early reports we so completely at odds with what eventually became the official story (eg. Peter is dead, girfriend missing etc.) that I'm willing to entertain that there was some intentional misleading. ie. Truther Bait.
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Again--I don't share the view of some here that Sandy Hook was 100% perfectly organized and executed by some cabal of perfectly powerful individuals who have ultimate control over every single aspect of the story. If that were true, we wouldn't even be discussing Sandy Hook.

Personally, I think whatever it was, it was planned and executed by mere mortals who may have a lot of power but are no more capable than any other human of perfect planning and execution. There are ALWAYS loose ends. NO plan ever goes according to conception; no matter how much power you have, once you let those people loose, randomness and personal choice and even personal greed take over. People agree to something on the front end, but always, always, always eventually diverge. The tight-knit group unravels over time, and people make choices which benefit themselves personally at the cost of the group (and visa versa). It's just human nature.
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Yes, this makes total sense.

But some of the early reports we so completely at odds with what eventually became the official story (eg. Peter is dead, girfriend missing etc.) that I'm willing to entertain that there was some intentional misleading. ie. Truther Bait.
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Ah Truther Bait I like that term.
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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Again--I don't share the view of some here that Sandy Hook was 100% perfectly organized and executed by some cabal of perfectly powerful individuals who have ultimate control over every single aspect of the story. If that were true, we wouldn't even be discussing Sandy Hook.

Personally, I think whatever it was, it was planned and executed by mere mortals who may have a lot of power but are no more capable than any other human of perfect planning and execution. There are ALWAYS loose ends. NO plan ever goes according to conception; no matter how much power you have, once you let those people loose, randomness and personal choice and even personal greed take over. People agree to something on the front end, but always, always, always eventually diverge. The tight-knit group unravels over time, and people make choices which benefit themselves personally at the cost of the group (and visa versa). It's just human nature.
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Yes, this makes total sense.

But some of the early reports we so completely at odds with what eventually became the official story (eg. Peter is dead, girfriend missing etc.) that I'm willing to entertain that there was some intentional misleading. ie. Truther Bait.
 Quoting: Stickywicket


Definitely agree this is a possibility. Although I think someone on the planning team might have thought leaking "kindergarten teacher's son" was a little risky; on the other hand, it didn't seem to matter in the end, so maybe it was a purposeful leak.
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Quick note to a statement by a police officer from the CSP report, there was a woman he encountered who stated she was hiding. This officer went in around 10:45 or something. He said he could not remember her name, I'd have to find that file again, but it was in one of these statements.


The purple van, in my opinion, didn't get the attention it deserved. I covered it in this article, scrole down towards the end, I also mention Manfredonia and it includes a pic where you can see the distance of the Lanza and their house.

[link to www.insanemedia.net]

I did not include that this Jewish couple got apprehended and sentenced in New Jersey, because they had explosive material in their apartment.

[link to whitewraithe.wordpress.com]


Allegedly, the tip that led the authorities to the New York apartment was a purple Ford van tracked via satellite and by helicopter from Sandy Hook School. In route, facial recognition cameras picked up three people in the van wearing ski masks, with the third man in a nun’s habit. Ironically, it was Russian Intelligence that first reported a three-man team entered the school on the day of the shootings. RI contacted MI6, then MI6 contacted the CIA according to Duff.

In addition to the propaganda literature discovered in the apartment, authorities also found high-capacity magazines that matched the weapons used at Sandy Hook. So far, authorities have failed to locate the third individual connected to the shootings.

What seems really odd is that my search engine no longer includes the New York couple’s arrest on the first page as done before. Not a hint of their existence or alleged crimes pop-up on the initial page of any search engine. This cannot be a coincidence.
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Wow. Didn't realize the NJ thing was also a purple van.
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Again--I don't share the view of some here that Sandy Hook was 100% perfectly organized and executed by some cabal of perfectly powerful individuals who have ultimate control over every single aspect of the story. If that were true, we wouldn't even be discussing Sandy Hook.

Personally, I think whatever it was, it was planned and executed by mere mortals who may have a lot of power but are no more capable than any other human of perfect planning and execution. There are ALWAYS loose ends. NO plan ever goes according to conception; no matter how much power you have, once you let those people loose, randomness and personal choice and even personal greed take over. People agree to something on the front end, but always, always, always eventually diverge. The tight-knit group unravels over time, and people make choices which benefit themselves personally at the cost of the group (and visa versa). It's just human nature.
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Yes, this makes total sense.

But some of the early reports we so completely at odds with what eventually became the official story (eg. Peter is dead, girfriend missing etc.) that I'm willing to entertain that there was some intentional misleading. ie. Truther Bait.
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Ah Truther Bait I like that term.
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Unfortunately I think the entire police report is truther bait. Why take ANYTHING they say as fact?

I believe there is something out there, relating to foreknowledge, that can bring the entire story down. We just have to find it.
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Isn't it interesting that PlasMan evaporated right after accidentally dropping the name Hegarty, and in fact it turns out to be Hegarty making the 911 call from Room 9?

I firmly believe several here were given advanced copies of the report, with the expectation that they could sound like locals who "heard this new tidbit in a meeting."

But--accidentally dropping Hegarty's name was a no-no; he revealed the name of a primary witness who would have likely remained 100% unidentified.

It would be very interesting to see whether Beth Hegarty could now sue whomever gave PlasMan a copy of the report.

I notice that the censors missed an F-bomb in Hegarty's 911 call; funny, PlasMan also said one mom was worried about having said "f***" multiple times in a call. But he goofed there, too--the "meeting" was allegedly about the released of the landline 911 calls, and Hegarty's was a cellphone call, and not subject to any release way back then.
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Oh, and obviously they were given copies of the *unredacted* report.
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Isn't it interesting that PlasMan evaporated right after accidentally dropping the name Hegarty, and in fact it turns out to be Hegarty making the 911 call from Room 9?

I firmly believe several here were given advanced copies of the report, with the expectation that they could sound like locals who "heard this new tidbit in a meeting."

But--accidentally dropping Hegarty's name was a no-no; he revealed the name of a primary witness who would have likely remained 100% unidentified.

It would be very interesting to see whether Beth Hegarty could now sue whomever gave PlasMan a copy of the report.

I notice that the censors missed an F-bomb in Hegarty's 911 call; funny, PlasMan also said one mom was worried about having said "f***" multiple times in a call. But he goofed there, too--the "meeting" was allegedly about the released of the landline 911 calls, and Hegarty's was a cellphone call, and not subject to any release way back then.
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Didn't PlasMan also say that Gene Rosen's bus driver lady had 2 kids with her before she found the 4 kids running away from the school?
In the report, there is a redacted name, it looks like, of a person who was with the bus driver at the time in her personal car. I don't know what happened to that person, but there is no further mention of who it might be in the report.
So, I have to assume otherwise that it was just FOUR kids who that lady found, not 6.
Also noteworthy is that in Rosen's statement, he says that there were PERHAPS 6 kids. Nice vague language, eh?
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Isn't it interesting that PlasMan evaporated right after accidentally dropping the name Hegarty, and in fact it turns out to be Hegarty making the 911 call from Room 9?

I firmly believe several here were given advanced copies of the report, with the expectation that they could sound like locals who "heard this new tidbit in a meeting."

But--accidentally dropping Hegarty's name was a no-no; he revealed the name of a primary witness who would have likely remained 100% unidentified.

It would be very interesting to see whether Beth Hegarty could now sue whomever gave PlasMan a copy of the report.

I notice that the censors missed an F-bomb in Hegarty's 911 call; funny, PlasMan also said one mom was worried about having said "f***" multiple times in a call. But he goofed there, too--the "meeting" was allegedly about the released of the landline 911 calls, and Hegarty's was a cellphone call, and not subject to any release way back then.
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Didn't PlasMan also say that Gene Rosen's bus driver lady had 2 kids with her before she found the 4 kids running away from the school?
In the report, there is a redacted name, it looks like, of a person who was with the bus driver at the time in her personal car. I don't know what happened to that person, but there is no further mention of who it might be in the report.
So, I have to assume otherwise that it was just FOUR kids who that lady found, not 6.
Also noteworthy is that in Rosen's statement, he says that there were PERHAPS 6 kids. Nice vague language, eh?
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Yeah - Plas is the first source I recall hearing the bit about bus driver's kids.
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Actually - I'm wrong about Hegarty remaining unidentified were it not for Plas. She stated publicly she was in the meeting.
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Wow. Didn't realize the NJ thing was also a purple van.
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Not also, but THE purple van from Sandy Hook
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Oooooook:-)
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I respectfully disagree. Since I believe it was a drill and CSP was at the school from the start the purple van is just misdirection and a topic to keep those off the scent of the real issue.

Just sayin. Take it for what it's worth tounge
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You might be right, if so it was probably not the only misdirection. You'd think if there was a purple van, that has occupants with ski masks, nun outfit and a back window blown out, suspected to be involved in this incident, they would be part of a deeper investigation with media exposure.

Yet it was on the news only shortly and nobody ever made a big deal out of the fact that they had weapons such as the ones used in Sandy Hook, explosives and propaganda in their apartment. One thing was clear in the MSM, they had nothing to do with this incident. That makes me wonder, if I wanted to create misinformation I would make sure people know about it?


The MSM doesn't even report on the document that states police shot Lanza. Not that anybody would have cared if they did, would have been so easy to use him as a patsy right? So why the Suicide story? Sandy Hook is one big fuckery, I can tell you that much.

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I respectfully disagree. Since I believe it was a drill and CSP was at the school from the start the purple van is just misdirection and a topic to keep those off the scent of the real issue.

Just sayin. Take it for what it's worth tounge
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You might be right, if so it was probably not the only misdirection. You'd think if there was a purple van, that has occupants with ski masks, nun outfit and a back window blown out, suspected to be involved in this incident, they would be part of a deeper investigation with media exposure.

Yet it was on the news only shortly and nobody ever made a big deal out of the fact that they had weapons such as the ones used in Sandy Hook, explosives and propaganda in their apartment. One thing was clear in the MSM, they had nothing to do with this incident. That makes me wonder, if I wanted to create misinformation I would make sure people know about it?


The MSM doesn't even report on the document that states police shot Lanza. Not that anybody would have cared if they did, would have been so easy to use him as a patsy right? So why the Suicide story? Sandy Hook is one big fuckery, I can tell you that much.
 Quoting: LadyK74


For sure but it is amazingly clear now.

Remember as long as people are discussing multiple shooters, or men in camo or somebody arrested in the woods or Manfredonia, or Vollmer then that is good in the drill book.

It's all about keeping people talking about the fact that someone was killed. That is the most important. Then the Urban Legend stands and waters down the evidence of the drill.

I am sorry to keep using that term but the point is to cement the Urban Legend. All stories are meant to further the Urban Legend. It does not matter if there are multiple versions of the story because all Urban Legends have different variations.

When I heard about nuns in a purple van I chuckled. I wonder who thought of that one in the meeting room in creating the Urban Legend. I'll bet they even had a good laugh over it.
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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I am always interested in information that is:

1) Loudly written off as "media error" by other media & police
2) Repeatedly said to be "worthless disinformation"
3) Repeatedly said to be "absolutely wrong"
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I respectfully disagree. Since I believe it was a drill and CSP was at the school from the start the purple van is just misdirection and a topic to keep those off the scent of the real issue.

Just sayin. Take it for what it's worth tounge
 Quoting: Dudeashaneo



You might be right, if so it was probably not the only misdirection. You'd think if there was a purple van, that has occupants with ski masks, nun outfit and a back window blown out, suspected to be involved in this incident, they would be part of a deeper investigation with media exposure.

Yet it was on the news only shortly and nobody ever made a big deal out of the fact that they had weapons such as the ones used in Sandy Hook, explosives and propaganda in their apartment. One thing was clear in the MSM, they had nothing to do with this incident. That makes me wonder, if I wanted to create misinformation I would make sure people know about it?


The MSM doesn't even report on the document that states police shot Lanza. Not that anybody would have cared if they did, would have been so easy to use him as a patsy right? So why the Suicide story? Sandy Hook is one big fuckery, I can tell you that much.
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For sure but it is amazingly clear now.

Remember as long as people are discussing multiple shooters, or men in camo or somebody arrested in the woods or Manfredonia, or Vollmer then that is good in the drill book.

It's all about keeping people talking about the fact that someone was killed. That is the most important. Then the Urban Legend stands and waters down the evidence of the drill.

I am sorry to keep using that term but the point is to cement the Urban Legend. All stories are meant to further the Urban Legend. It does not matter if there are multiple versions of the story because all Urban Legends have different variations.

When I heard about nuns in a purple van I chuckled. I wonder who thought of that one in the meeting room in creating the Urban Legend. I'll bet they even had a good laugh over it.
 Quoting: Dudeashaneo


Fair enough, but what about the concept that those who don't want it discussed at all keep stressing that we must all write it off as a "hoax" i.e. not care about it, since it didn't happen?

I do not believe for one second that everyone brownbeating the "hoax" angle is doing it for genuine purposes.

And what if it's a mix--a few people killed, but not 20 kids? I've long thought that was possible.

Why is it guaranteed to be black or white? Why is it any less heinous or possible that two adults may have been killed and the rest was a lie?

Quite frankly at this point I just want to know who was (apparently) shot in front of the school. Look at any photo from any gangland parking-lot shooting, and that's what that pattern looks like: a big splotch, right where the person first suffered a bullet entry.

What the hell is THAT doing in front of the school with no blood leading to it? It makes no sense to fake that pattern, because that pattern doesn't in any way support the official story, at least not that I can see.
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I am always interested in information that is:

1) Loudly written off as "media error" by other media & police
2) Repeatedly said to be "worthless disinformation"
3) Repeatedly said to be "absolutely wrong"
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Yes me too. Honestly though, I'm losing my drift here. Swan is right, nobody seems to give a shit, or even if you do, what can we really do?

It is obvious that they feel like they can pull anything these days with the public, no matter how ridiculous it is. The sad thing is, even after 9/11 there are still so many people believing the official story. I mean people believe almost anything posted on Facebook or what is shown on the news.

That leaves us with almost no options besides writing about it, exposing and documenting it. If some people decide to look behind the curtain in the future they can follow up by reading some of the info all of us put together.

Bright future ahead of us eh?
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I respectfully disagree. Since I believe it was a drill and CSP was at the school from the start the purple van is just misdirection and a topic to keep those off the scent of the real issue.

Just sayin. Take it for what it's worth tounge
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You might be right, if so it was probably not the only misdirection. You'd think if there was a purple van, that has occupants with ski masks, nun outfit and a back window blown out, suspected to be involved in this incident, they would be part of a deeper investigation with media exposure.

Yet it was on the news only shortly and nobody ever made a big deal out of the fact that they had weapons such as the ones used in Sandy Hook, explosives and propaganda in their apartment. One thing was clear in the MSM, they had nothing to do with this incident. That makes me wonder, if I wanted to create misinformation I would make sure people know about it?


The MSM doesn't even report on the document that states police shot Lanza. Not that anybody would have cared if they did, would have been so easy to use him as a patsy right? So why the Suicide story? Sandy Hook is one big fuckery, I can tell you that much.
 Quoting: LadyK74


For sure but it is amazingly clear now.

Remember as long as people are discussing multiple shooters, or men in camo or somebody arrested in the woods or Manfredonia, or Vollmer then that is good in the drill book.

It's all about keeping people talking about the fact that someone was killed. That is the most important. Then the Urban Legend stands and waters down the evidence of the drill.

I am sorry to keep using that term but the point is to cement the Urban Legend. All stories are meant to further the Urban Legend. It does not matter if there are multiple versions of the story because all Urban Legends have different variations.

When I heard about nuns in a purple van I chuckled. I wonder who thought of that one in the meeting room in creating the Urban Legend. I'll bet they even had a good laugh over it.
 Quoting: Dudeashaneo


Fair enough, but what about the concept that those who don't want it discussed at all keep stressing that we must all write it off as a "hoax" i.e. not care about it, since it didn't happen?

I do not believe for one second that everyone brownbeating the "hoax" angle is doing it for genuine purposes.

And what if it's a mix--a few people killed, but not 20 kids? I've long thought that was possible.

Why is it guaranteed to be black or white? Why is it any less heinous or possible that two adults may have been killed and the rest was a lie?

Quite frankly at this point I just want to know who was (apparently) shot in front of the school. Look at any photo from any gangland parking-lot shooting, and that's what that pattern looks like: a big splotch, right where the person first suffered a bullet entry.

What the hell is THAT doing in front of the school with no blood leading to it? It makes no sense to fake that pattern, because that pattern doesn't in any way support the official story, at least not that I can see.
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Meh. A mix? A few people killed? A kinda hoax? A kinda lie?
A drill. It explains everything. It really does. No emotion. No panic. All the participants just agreeing with the official narrative without question. Just too clean and perfect.
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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I am always interested in information that is:

1) Loudly written off as "media error" by other media & police
2) Repeatedly said to be "worthless disinformation"
3) Repeatedly said to be "absolutely wrong"
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Yes me too. Honestly though, I'm losing my drift here. Swan is right, nobody seems to give a shit, or even if you do, what can we really do?

It is obvious that they feel like they can pull anything these days with the public, no matter how ridiculous it is. The sad thing is, even after 9/11 there are still so many people believing the official story. I mean people believe almost anything posted on Facebook or what is shown on the news.

That leaves us with almost no options besides writing about it, exposing and documenting it. If some people decide to look behind the curtain in the future they can follow up by reading some of the info all of us put together.

Bright future ahead of us eh?
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Have faith. More people are questioning the official story. The fear is obvious though. If the government did this to the people they are suppose to protect who can you trust?

It's perfect for them. Except they do not have the truth on their side. So we sue them? Uh no you can't sue a criminal that is masquerading as the law. But you can get the truth out. And that is what we must do.
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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I am always interested in information that is:

1) Loudly written off as "media error" by other media & police
2) Repeatedly said to be "worthless disinformation"
3) Repeatedly said to be "absolutely wrong"
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Yes me too. Honestly though, I'm losing my drift here. Swan is right, nobody seems to give a shit, or even if you do, what can we really do?

It is obvious that they feel like they can pull anything these days with the public, no matter how ridiculous it is. The sad thing is, even after 9/11 there are still so many people believing the official story. I mean people believe almost anything posted on Facebook or what is shown on the news.

That leaves us with almost no options besides writing about it, exposing and documenting it. If some people decide to look behind the curtain in the future they can follow up by reading some of the info all of us put together.

Bright future ahead of us eh?
 Quoting: LadyK74


Have faith. More people are questioning the official story. The fear is obvious though. If the government did this to the people they are suppose to protect who can you trust?

It's perfect for them. Except they do not have the truth on their side. So we sue them? Uh no you can't sue a criminal that is masquerading as the law. But you can get the truth out. And that is what we must do.
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What gets me is how MSM is kinda willing to be the ultimate scapegoat in this.
Most are blaming them for the shoddy reporting, I find that telling since most were credible reporters not prone to making all these mistakes.
IMO, "officials" were leaking them info to keep all of us watching on a wild goose chase and they pulled something off right under our noses so to speak.
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Have faith. More people are questioning the official story. The fear is obvious though. If the government did this to the people they are suppose to protect who can you trust?

It's perfect for them. Except they do not have the truth on their side. So we sue them? Uh no you can't sue a criminal that is masquerading as the law. But you can get the truth out. And that is what we must do.
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Yes, you are right. It wasn't all in vain and it's the only thing that keeps me going.

I guess a little break through would lift the spirits among the community immensely..

Got to keep the faith!
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I am always interested in information that is:

1) Loudly written off as "media error" by other media & police
2) Repeatedly said to be "worthless disinformation"
3) Repeatedly said to be "absolutely wrong"
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Yes me too. Honestly though, I'm losing my drift here. Swan is right, nobody seems to give a shit, or even if you do, what can we really do?

It is obvious that they feel like they can pull anything these days with the public, no matter how ridiculous it is. The sad thing is, even after 9/11 there are still so many people believing the official story. I mean people believe almost anything posted on Facebook or what is shown on the news.

That leaves us with almost no options besides writing about it, exposing and documenting it. If some people decide to look behind the curtain in the future they can follow up by reading some of the info all of us put together.

Bright future ahead of us eh?
 Quoting: LadyK74


Have faith. More people are questioning the official story. The fear is obvious though. If the government did this to the people they are suppose to protect who can you trust?

It's perfect for them. Except they do not have the truth on their side. So we sue them? Uh no you can't sue a criminal that is masquerading as the law. But you can get the truth out. And that is what we must do.
 Quoting: Dudeashaneo


What gets me is how MSM is kinda willing to be the ultimate scapegoat in this.
Most are blaming them for the shoddy reporting, I find that telling since most were credible reporters not prone to making all these mistakes.
IMO, "officials" were leaking them info to keep all of us watching on a wild goose chase and they pulled something off right under our noses so to speak.
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Very much agree! In their own interests they should be pursuing the facts more aggressively.





GLP