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'Global warming' scientists forced to admit defeat -- because of too much ice...

 
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let me tell you what gets said in a high school I know. The statement is that "global warming" is not about temperature. It never was about temperature.

It is about the water cycle.

How's that for backtracking?

of course they still discuss it, anyhow.
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You will see equivocation and obfuscation pushed to the utmost human extreme when backing these pseudo-science frauds into a corner.
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Click on the pins in this link!

[link to www.usatoday.com]
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"A team of USA TODAY reporters traveled across the country this year to look at how climate change is affecting Americans...."

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They went in search evidence of the world’s melting ice caps, but instead a team of climate scientists have been forced to abandon their mission … because the Antarctic ice is thicker than usual at this time of year.

SO TRUE - global warming is a distraction - bogus. The sun is a scarce resource ( sun worship/ operation lucifer)

should be concerned with becoming a white dwarf...

what if the sun;s power diminsihes? etc.. (distance/ orbit).

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Why is it so hard to understand that A: Climate change is natural and not man-made; and B: As it changes, no matter the direction (warmer or cooler) the climate will go through wild swings in both directions until the change is final.

Just because you don't get the science, doesn't mean that it isn't correct.

I love it when ignorant people call others stupid for proclaiming something the ignorant can't understand.
 Quoting: hideous_persona


Until the change is final??? There is NO FINAL CHANGE... Never has been, never will be... The earth is in a state of constant flux. There will never be a "evening-out" of the climate.

FACT IS we have only been recording for the past 2,000 years and only in the past 100 years is there any accuracy of this.

I am not flaming you, I think we are on the same page, but to state "until the change is final" is only sipping the Kool-aid.. not chugging it.

There is no final.
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Because of the auto industry, oil industry, nuclear industry, etc., it's basically impossible to have an online conversation about anything that effects their bottom line.
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That cheered me up.
This has to be one of the most bizarre periods in human history.
There must be thousands of rational scientists around the world who are suffering a silent despair. God help us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50815055


The state of the "scientific" community today is an effing joke. Scientists can't even question global warming, or whether or not all life on earth was developed by culled genetic accidents, without fear of losing their jobs. While culturally trendy theoretical imagineering is held up on a pedestal.
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you got it backwards. there is alot more money in saying it doesnt exist than in saying it does. turn off fox news.
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putin

Now I know you are shilling.

Do you not understand that only 30 years ago the environmentalist groups were scaring people about an impending "Ice Age" ?

Global Warming/"Climate Change" is a retarded "theory" that has all the markings of a propaganda campaign, including institutionalized intimidation tactics. It's a joke.
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Because of the auto industry, oil industry, nuclear industry, etc., it's basically impossible to have an online conversation about anything that effects their bottom line.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36426283


Good list, might I add the airline industry to it.
They appear to be a major cause of air pollution.
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Global Warming/"Climate Change" is a retarded "theory" that has all the markings of a propaganda campaign, including institutionalized intimidation tactics. It's a joke.
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right, cause there's obviously no money in denying that pollution has adverse effects on anything....
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Because of the auto industry, oil industry, nuclear industry, etc., it's basically impossible to have an online conversation about anything that effects their bottom line.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36426283


sockpuppetsockpuppetsockpuppet

lol, you guys are out in force.

anyone who denies your stupid psuedo-science is a shill for the auto-industry, huh? lol, okay. good luck with that.
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Re: 'Global warming' scientists forced to admit defeat -- because of too much ice...

They went in search evidence of the world’s melting ice caps, but instead a team of climate scientists have been forced to abandon their mission … because the Antarctic ice is thicker than usual at this time of year.

SO TRUE - global warming is a distraction - bogus. The sun is a scarce resource ( sun worship/ operation lucifer)

should be concerned with becoming a white dwarf...

what if the sun;s power diminsihes? etc.. (distance/ orbit).

 Quoting: + DL +


lol nah

The Sun turning into a Dwarf Star is not an immediate concern for Man. They say about 10 Billion years or so,...But that is more of an immediate concern for the overall lifespan of Life on Earth.
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Because of the auto industry, oil industry, nuclear industry, etc., it's basically impossible to have an online conversation about anything that effects their bottom line.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36426283


Good list, might I add the airline industry to it.
They appear to be a major cause of air pollution.
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Yep, money talks, through the socks.

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anyways

someone mentioned earlier about Global Cooling talk in the 70's. This ole compilation video should be of some interest now.



I've got a like to an ole documentary about it too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45154815


found it,..just watch the first 10min if you don't got the time. good stuff


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45154815


ONLY 30 YEARS AGO: The Global Warming TARDS were trying to scare people about an impending ICE AGE.

End of story.
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The weather patterns are shifting. There is more snow falling in Antarctica. The oceans are slightly warmer and that changes weather patterns everywhere. Before the old coal plants, steel mills and other things shut there was a lot more smoke in the atmosphere and these had an effect on weather. There are sink holes forming in areas may be releasing more methane. Warmer weather gives us more rain. Where there are dense forests the temperature is much lower.
The best thing we can do for global warming or change is to plant more trees. You really can't get a good idea what is going on comparing one year to the next. You have to look at the long term picture. We really don't know what is going to happen with climbing CO2 levels; we can only guess.
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I'm going to add this to stir the pot a little bit...

it's summer down there.
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Bingo
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Lol, I've been waiting for something like this to happen. The idiots probably thought they'd have a better chance of 'proving' their fantasy during the Summer.

Now they get a taste of reality. What's the bet they still won't wake up? I hope they're stuck there for months, just to let some sense sink in.
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Its because of all the chemtrails! its working!

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Re: 'Global warming' scientists forced to admit defeat -- because of too much ice...
anyways

someone mentioned earlier about Global Cooling talk in the 70's. This ole compilation video should be of some interest now.



I've got a like to an ole documentary about it too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45154815


found it,..just watch the first 10min if you don't got the time. good stuff


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45154815


A 23 year old documentary? From what I watched already their theories have been disproven by the last 17 years of cooling. They also said the poles would melt and flood the hell out of everything before the ice age.

Fail.sheep
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anyways

someone mentioned earlier about Global Cooling talk in the 70's. This ole compilation video should be of some interest now.



I've got a like to an ole documentary about it too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45154815


found it,..just watch the first 10min if you don't got the time. good stuff


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45154815


ONLY 30 YEARS AGO: The Global Warming TARDS were trying to scare people about an impending ICE AGE.

End of story.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52203857


The Planet is still due for an Ice Age regardless of who profits from it.

it could happen anytime between now or thousands of years in the future, So with that said, I really don't care who's pointing the finger at who.
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Re: 'Global warming' scientists forced to admit defeat -- because of too much ice...
The weather patterns are shifting. There is more snow falling in Antarctica. The oceans are slightly warmer and that changes weather patterns everywhere. Before the old coal plants, steel mills and other things shut there was a lot more smoke in the atmosphere and these had an effect on weather. There are sink holes forming in areas may be releasing more methane. Warmer weather gives us more rain. Where there are dense forests the temperature is much lower.
The best thing we can do for global warming or change is to plant more trees. You really can't get a good idea what is going on comparing one year to the next. You have to look at the long term picture. We really don't know what is going to happen with climbing CO2 levels; we can only guess.
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You know Putin loves the idea of warming up the planet, because Russia would become ice free. I'm sure the Canadians wouldn't mind also.

Considering Edgar Cayce's predictions, about WWIII partly starting in the northern shipping area above Canada, and all the ships using that rout now, it seems WWIII can't be too far off now.
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"Conclusion

Global temperature has in recent years increased more slowly than before, but this is within the normal natural variability that always exists, and also within the range of predictions by climate models – even despite some cool forcing factors such as the deep solar minimum not included in the models. There is therefore no reason to find the models faulty. There is also no reason to expect less warming in the future – in fact, perhaps rather the opposite as the climate system will catch up again due its natural oscillations, e.g. when the Pacific decadal oscillation swings back to its warm phase. Even now global temperatures are very high again – in the GISS data, with an anomaly of + 0.77 °C November was warmer than the previous record year of 2010 (+ 0.67 °), and it was the warmest November on record since 1880.
"

I highly doubt any of you climate change deniers will be able to think past those 3 word political slogans you are parroting, but for anyone else, here is a study worthy of your time:

[link to www.realclimate.org]
 Quoting: sevenmmm


I used to be in that camp and researched many papers on this issue in college. I was a true believer and wanted to spread the message. However, about 8-9 years ago, I recognized the models were not accurate - there was something wrong with them.

Many others came to the same conclusion. We re-adjusted our thinking then, in light of these new facts.

In other words, it was a time to double check all the old assumptions, because we were arriving at the wrong answer. The models were falling apart in real-time. So a real scientist will go back and re-check his thinking.

Well, within a couple of years the "Climategate" story broke and I read a lot of those emails and looked at the computer code that was released.

I can now say for 100% certainty that I was thoroughly misled (or whatever you want to call it) by these people, and they (McCann, Hansen, et al) are a complete joke, and should quit their professions. The few actual facts that they did use in their models and theories were just made up.

The scientists on this boat are just more proof of what is going on and what a complete waste of time and resources proving this whole fiasco of a theory has become a joke.

A cruel joke set up to reduce or strip average people of the ability to purchase heat in the winter through extra taxation. Which is more than cruel, because people will die.

They have died in Africa, already, because we won't allow them to build any new coal powered plants or they lose their IMF loans. This keeps them so poor they are literally starving to death by the tens of thousands. In some African countries they can't even cook their evening meal anymore because their little bit of charcoal has been outlawed due to AGW threats. Most that manage to survive in these areas are consigned to a very poor quality of life that they could have improved markedly by themselves, had we had never "helped" them in the first place.

Why don't you go read about that!
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anyways

someone mentioned earlier about Global Cooling talk in the 70's. This ole compilation video should be of some interest now.



I've got a like to an ole documentary about it too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45154815


found it,..just watch the first 10min if you don't got the time. good stuff


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45154815


A 23 year old documentary? From what I watched already their theories have been disproven by the last 17 years of cooling. They also said the poles would melt and flood the hell out of everything before the ice age.

Fail.sheep
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I'm just posting videos related to the discussion.
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That cheered me up.
This has to be one of the most bizarre periods in human history.
There must be thousands of rational scientists around the world who are suffering a silent despair. God help us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50815055


The state of the "scientific" community today is an effing joke. Scientists can't even question global warming, or whether or not all life on earth was developed by culled genetic accidents, without fear of losing their jobs. While culturally trendy theoretical imagineering is held up on a pedestal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52203857


Its the clowns, shills and useful-idiots that irritate me the most. A scientists livelihood is dependant on orthodoxy, the rest have no excuse. However, it can be personally satisfying - knowing that you are not living in total ignorance.
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Re: 'Global warming' scientists forced to admit defeat -- because of too much ice...
Why is it so hard to understand that A: Climate change is natural and not man-made; and B: As it changes, no matter the direction (warmer or cooler) the climate will go through wild swings in both directions until the change is final.

Just because you don't get the science, doesn't mean that it isn't correct.

I love it when ignorant people call others stupid for proclaiming something the ignorant can't understand.
 Quoting: hideous_persona


Until the change is final??? There is NO FINAL CHANGE... Never has been, never will be... The earth is in a state of constant flux. There will never be a "evening-out" of the climate.

FACT IS we have only been recording for the past 2,000 years and only in the past 100 years is there any accuracy of this.

I am not flaming you, I think we are on the same page, but to state "until the change is final" is only sipping the Kool-aid.. not chugging it.

There is no final.
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well, by that I meant "finished moving through that particular part of the cycle before it begins anew in the other direction."

But "final change" was easier
you suck just as hard as you think i do
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Jump on this wonderful boat, the destination, liberal fail. Enjoy the ride.
Banned as usual.

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found it,..just watch the first 10min if you don't got the time. good stuff


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Just watched this.

Very interesting highly recommended.

Shills please do not watch, it will hurt your brain.

Love the old film color too! Great narrator!
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I bet its only the "Global Warming" that's keeping a fuckin Iceage at bay ,the GW tards will only be happy when the entire planet is covered with Ice and im cold ....
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Why is it always either or with these people. It's becoming imbalanced which results in more extremes to either side hot and cold.
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When its getting colder, they say its getting hotter, when its getting hotter, ther say its getting colder.
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I bet its only the "Global Warming" that's keeping a fuckin Iceage at bay ,the GW tards will only be happy when the entire planet is covered with Ice and im cold ....
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indeed it is

The Planet always has an abnormally high warming climate right before a fast setting Ice Age. The reason why its always fast setting is for the same reason you make ice cubes from hot water.

I just don't know if this is the right warming period to make it happen in our lifetime. I leave that to the bitchy scientists.
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:no33:

It's always like that somewhere in the world for millions of years that we don't even know what happened.
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


True, but it's dry as hell here in Souther Oregon, and that's since 1911.

"MEDFORD, Oregon — The city of Medford is two weeks away from recording its driest calendar year since records were first kept in 1911."

[link to www.therepublic.com]

There hasn't been any rain in the last ten days (since the story was published), and there's no rain forecast for the future.
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Just over 100 Years? not a very long record.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52187099


Long enough to say it's fucked up.

So if the governments know we are going into another ice age, why would Putin send troops into the Arctic to secure future oil rights?

Why is Canada claiming oil rights to an area that can't be drilled unless the ice melts?

This story sticks, like that rotten egg smell in oil fields.
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You can drill anywhere in the world in any climate. Global warming idiots need to just shut up and admit defeat. Go ride your bike.
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this used to be an entertaining website before you right wing cunts ruined it all. ive been here longer than you. most you cunts only showed up casuse you hated having a president that wasn't white. yes i see you're canadian. and a moron.
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:libinbutt33::homerflip33:
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


Not onto the left right paradigm but from my point of view, global warming is a pile of shit.

Haven't seen any sign of it in the last decade where I live.
It appears to have been concocted to extract more money from us pions.

Meanwhile, if they had claimed global cooling, well I almost might have bought that, almost being the operative word.

100 years of climate history is a joke, nothing that anything of substance can be based on.
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then lets stop calling it global warming and call it planet rape by greedy corporate fucks then.
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Fine. As long as the greedy politicians don't tax me to fix it.
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