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'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

 
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Don't worry our soldiers died for Iraqs freedom.
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Shhhh, Iraq is fine, the great George W. Bush ensured it was. Go back to sleep you tards.
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"A house divided cannot stand." It appears that is all according to plan.
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Iraq's falling into full-blown civil war. Check these threads for the details:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Thread: Sunni gunmen overrun government buildings in Hadeetha, Baghdad, Ramadhi! Rebels seize Anbar TV live on air! Fallujah under siege!

Below I'm going to summarize some basic info on Iraq and the players. If people want to discuss Iraq, they're welcome to. We can talk about the bigger picture so as not to step on Ger_reG's toes with the minute-by-minute reporting.

List of topics and links to their description in the thread.

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, leader of ISIS Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

Anbar Governate Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

Dulaim tribe Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

Fallujah Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

Haditha Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

ISIS - Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant [Syria/Sham] Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

Mosul Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

Nineveh Governate Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!! (Page 2)

Ramadi Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

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Map of the religious division of Iraq [link to thesinosaudiblog.files.wordpress.com]

Map of the governates [states] of Iraq [link to upload.wikimedia.org]
 Quoting: The_Original_Mind


the US turned it into a shit hole bombing the fuk out it.

most bombed piece of dirt on earth .
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Can we blame Obama? hf
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no blame the fukin idiot soldiers that go kill innocent men woman children.



nothing patriotic about any of it its a disgusting lie American people brain washed on 9/11


now the country is in ruin , because glass head morons shot it up.
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Letter announcing the formation of the Jaysh al-Izz wa al-Karama, the military leadership of the rebellion [link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

AC 26782986 translates it as: "In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Today, we the righteous people of the blessed land, announce the formation of a new jihad army, Jaysh al-Izz wa al-Karama [the Army of the Dignified al Izz, a Muslim scholar and judge in the 14th century] who will defend our homeland against the infidels of that criminal al Maliki. We will wage jihad over this blessed country until we have established an Ummah (Ination), not only in Anbar but in all of Iraq. God is the Greatest, God is the Greatest."

Props to AC 26782986 for the help in translating this.
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A real American, in these times, does not give a damn about any other country but America.
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Have we found the weapons of mass destruction yet?
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OP - that iraq or syria go into full melt down I don't give a damn.

they wanna kill each other I say let them.

we tried to help, they did not want our help. Let's get out of there.
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Nouri al-Maliki

"Prime Minister of Iraq and the secretary-general of the Islamic Dawa Party. Al-Maliki and his government succeeded the Iraqi Transitional Government. He is currently in his second term as Prime Minister. His first Cabinet was approved by the National Assembly and sworn in on 20 May 2006; his second Cabinet, in which he also holds the positions of acting Interior Minister, acting Defense Minister, and acting National Security Minister, was approved on 21 December 2010.

Al-Maliki began his political career as a Shia dissident under Saddam Hussein's dictatorship in the late 1970s and rose to prominence after he fled a death sentence into exile for 24 years. During his time abroad, he became a senior leader of Dawa, coordinated the activities of anti-Saddam guerillas and built relationships with Iranian and Syrian officials whose help he sought in overthrowing Saddam. While having worked closely with United States and coalition forces in Iraq since their departure by the end of 2011, there have been claims that al-Maliki has been trying to gain control over the armed groups in his country as means to consolidate the Prime Minister's power and marginalize Sunni opposition.

He is a member of the Al-Ali Tribe, an offshoot of the Bani Malik tribe.

On 16 July 1979, al-Maliki fled Iraq after he was discovered to be a member of the outlawed Islamic Dawa Party. According to a brief biography on the Islamic Dawa Party's website, he left Iraq via Jordan in October, and soon moved to Syria, adopting the pseudonym "Jawad". He left Syria for Iran in 1982, where he lived in Tehran until 1990, before returning to Damascus where he remained until U.S. coalition forces invaded Iraq and toppled Saddam's regime in 2003.

Upon his return to his native Iraq after the fall of Saddam, al-Maliki became the deputy leader of the Supreme National Debaathification Commission of the Iraqi Interim Government, formed to purge former Baath Party officials from the military and government. He was elected to the transitional National Assembly in January 2005. He was a member of the committee that drafted the new constitution that was passed in October 2005.

In the December 2005 parliamentary elections, the United Iraqi Alliance won the plurality of seats, and nominated Ibrahim al-Jaafari to be Iraq's first full-term post-war prime minister. In April 2006, amid mounting criticism of ineffective leadership and favoritism by Kurdish and Sunni Arab politicians in parliament, al-Jaafari was forced from power. On 22 April 2006, following close U.S. involvement in the selection of a new prime minister, al-Maliki's name arose from the four that had been interviewed by the CIA on their connections to Iran.

More recently, however, it has been claimed that al-Maliki was the preferred candidate of Qasem Soleimani, the commander of the [Iranian] Quds Force, and that it was Soleimani who brokered the deal between senior Shiite and Kurdish leaders that lead to his election as Prime Minister.

After only two years, as of late 2008, the al-Malki government has witnessed improvements in the security situation in many parts of the country. In Baghdad, a peace deal signed between Moqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army and the government had eased tensions, though sporadic sectarian incidents continued, as did occasional fighting between U.S. forces and Shiite militiamen, particularly in Sadr City. Maliki's job was complicated by the balance of power within parliament, with his position relying on the support of two Shiite blocs, that of Sadr and the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council of Abdul Aziz al-Hakim, that his Dawa party has often been at odds with. Progress has also frequently been blocked by Sunni Arab politicians who allege that the dominant Shiite parties are pursuing sectarian advantage.Progress has also frequently been blocked by Sunni Arab politicians who allege that the dominant Shiite parties are pursuing sectarian advantage. Maliki had some success in finding compromise. In July 2008, al-Maliki, who earlier in the year fought off a recall effort in parliament, convinced Sunni politicians to end a year-long boycott of the chamber and appointed some of them to cabinet positions.

On 21 December 2010, al-Maliki's government was unanimously approved by parliament more than 9 months after the 2010 parliamentary election. On 5 February 2011, a spokesperson for al-Maliki said he would not run for a third term in 2014 limiting himself in the name of democracy in a nod to the Arab Spring. In December 2011, Maliki was embroiled in a deep political crisis with Sunni opponents including Tariq al-Hashemi."

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SO what we looking at, full blown civil war and intervention?
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Civil war for sure. Intervention maybe.

Like him or not Saddam was a stabilizing factor....
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Yup. Same goes for all the secular Islamic leaders. With Assad and Maliki in trouble, only Jordan and Saudi Arabia still have stable secular governments (not counting the small states or Turkey).
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OP - that iraq or syria go into full melt down I don't give a damn.

they wanna kill each other I say let them.

we tried to help, they did not want our help. Let's get out of there.
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I agree that we shouldn't get involved. But we are involved, whether we like it or not. Whatever happens in Iraq, and the Middle East generally, will affect Europe and America.
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Gone to?

Islam is a barrier to improvement of the human condition. They've been trapped in the previous millennium for some time now.

Islam is a contrived religion not much unlike mormonism:

* lunatic founder
* brush with the occult
* demons



Islam has the additional points

* paedophilia (married a young YOUNG girl even by that day's culture)
* sexual abuse
* rape


And Islam like american public schools

* BEATS creativity out of kids
* demands mere COMPLIANCE no points for understanding


Religion is a great force for good. Consider the event around which Western Civilization's calendar turns, the paradigm shift of doing good for those who hate or injure you, and debt forgiveness.
Yahoo arrogantly assume everyone is rich enough for a mobile phone, or that those with a phone are STUPID enough to use OLD TIMEY sms texting

RFC 7081
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Can we blame Obama? hf
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blame Woodrow Wilson, Lloyd George, and Clemenceau for setting up the country of Iraq in the first place.
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Muqtada al-Sadr

"Along with Ali al-Sistani and Ammar al-Hakim of the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq, Sadr is one of the most influential religious and political figures in the country, despite not holding any official title in the Iraqi government. He is the leader of a [Shi'ite] political party, the Sadrist Movement.

Muqtada al-Sadr is the fourth son of a famous Iraqi Shi‘a cleric, the late Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Mohammad Sadeq al-Sadr. He is also the son-in-law of Grand Ayatollah Mohammad Baqir al-Sadr.

Muqtada al-Sadr gained popularity in Iraq following the toppling of the Saddam government by the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Al-Sadr has on occasion stated that he wishes to create an "Islamic democracy".

Al-Sadr commands strong support (especially in the Sadr City district in Baghdad, formerly named Saddam City but renamed after the elder al-Sadr). After the fall of the Saddam government in 2003, Muqtada al-Sadr organized thousands of his supporters into a political movement, which includes a military wing known as the Jaysh al-Mahdi or Mahdi Army). The name refers to the Mahdi, a long-since disappeared Imam who is believed by Shi'a Muslims to be due to reappear when the end of time approaches. This group has periodically engaged in violent conflict with the United States and other Coalition forces, while the larger Sadrist movement has formed its own religious courts, and organized social services, law enforcement, and prisons in areas under its control.

His strongest support comes from the class of dispossessed Shi‘a, like in the Sadr City area of Baghdad. Many Iraqi supporters see in him a symbol of resistance to foreign occupation.

In his 2004 sermons and public interviews al-Sadr repeatedly demanded an immediate withdrawal of all U.S.-led coalition forces, all foreign troops under United Nations control, and the establishment of a new central Iraqi government, not connected to the Ba'ath party or the Allawi government.

In late March 2004, Coalition authorities (759th MP Battalion) in Iraq shut down Sadr's newspaper al-Hawza on charges of inciting violence. Sadr's followers held demonstrations protesting the closure of the newspaper. On April 4, fighting broke out in Najaf, Sadr City, and Basra. Sadr's Mahdi Army took over several points and attacked coalition soldiers, killing dozens of foreign soldiers, and taking many casualties of their own in the process. At the same time, Sunni rebels in the cities of Baghdad, Samarra, Ramadi, and, most notably, Fallujah, staged uprisings as well, causing the most serious challenge to coalition control of Iraq up to that time.

During the first siege of Fallujah in late March and April 2004, Muqtada's Sadrists sent aid convoys to the besieged Sunnis there.

Paul Bremer, then the U.S. administrator in Iraq, declared on April 5, 2004, that al-Sadr was an outlaw and that uprisings by his followers would not be tolerated.

On August 26, 2005, an estimated 100,000 Iraqis marched in support of al-Sadr and his ideals.

Sadr’s considerable leverage was apparent early in the week of 16 October 2006, when Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki ordered the release of one of Sadr’s senior aides. The aide had been arrested a day earlier by American troops on suspicion of participating in kidnappings and killings.

On May 25, 2007, al-Sadr delivered a sermon to an estimated 6,000 followers in Kufa. Sadr reiterated his condemnation of the United States' occupation of Iraq and demanded the withdrawal of foreign forces, al-Sadr's speech also contained calls for unity between Sunni and Shi'a.

In March 2008 during the Battle of Basra, the Sadr Movement launched a nationwide civil disobedience campaign across Iraq to protest raids and detentions against the Mahdi Army.

In August 2008, al-Sadr ordered most of his militiamen to disarm but said he will maintain elite fighting units to resist the Americans if a timetable for the withdrawal of US troops is not established.

On January 5, 2011, Muqtada al-Sadr returned to the Iraqi city of Najaf, in order to take a more proactive and visible role in the new Iraqi government. Three days later, thousands of Iraqis turned out in Najaf to hear his first speech since his return, in which he called the US, Israel, and the UK "common enemies" against Iraq. His speech was greeted by the crowd chanting "Yes, yes for Muqtada! Yes, yes for the leader!", whilst waving Iraqi flags and al-Sadr's pictures. Subsequently, he returned to Iran to continue his studies.

By late 2011, it appeared that the United States would largely withdraw from Iraq, a demand that helped make Sadr a popular leader amongst supporters almost immediately following the invasion. Sadr also controlled the largest bloc of parliament, and had reached a sort of détente with prime minister Nouri al Maliki, who needed Sadrist support to retain his post.

Following the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, al-Sadr continued to be an influential figure in Iraqi politics, associated with the Al-Ahrar bloc. However, whereas during the war al-Sadr was known for advocating violence, in 2012 he began to present himself as a proponent of moderation and tolerance and called for peace."

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This is one of the first Western reports I've seen on the brewing Iraqi civil war. It drastically under reports a number of crucial components. Here's a snippet:

"Sunni Muslim fighters clashed on Thursday with Iraqi troops trying to regain control of two western cities, in a serious escalation of their confrontation with the Shi'ite-led government of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki.

Tension has been running high in the Sunni-dominated province of Anbar since Iraqi police broke up a Sunni protest camp on Monday, leaving at least 13 people dead.

Thousands of anti-government tribal fighters took over local government buildings in the two main cities, Falluja and Ramadi, on Wednesday after the army pulled back in an attempt to calm the situation.

Fighting broke out on Thursday, tribal leaders and security officials said, when the army tried to re-enter the cities."

[link to news.yahoo.com]

If you go to Ger_reG's thread, you can follow the development's step by step: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

What actually kicked this off was the central government's arrest of Iraqi Sunni MP Ahmed al-Awlani in Ramadi on Saturday, Dec. 28. During the arrest several members of his family and several of his bodyguards were killed. This prompted Sunni tribesmen in al-Anbar province to issue an immediate 12-hour deadline for al-Awlani's release. This expired on Sunday, and the tribesmen announced the immediate commencement of military action against the central government and the formation a new Sunni military alliance for the protection of al-Anbar and Sunni interests generally (the Jaysh al-Izz wa al-Karama).

Shortly thereafter, over Sunday-Monday, a number of developments took place:

1. Sunni uprisings broke out across Anbar, Nineveh, and Salahadin provinces.
2. Fighting broke out in Fallujah, Ramadi, Haditha, and Mosul in particular.
3. ISIS, an al-Qaeda affiliate in Iraq, joined the Sunni tribes and began attempting to assert their dominance over the rebellion.
4. Sunni clerics across Anbar called for an uprising and jihad against the central government.
5. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki deployed the Iraqi army in Anbar province to combat the uprising. Several military units began to fly sectarian Shi'ite flags, further antagonizing Sunni locals.
6. Sunni protests broke out centered around Ramadi. On Monday, the Iraqi army initiated a violent crackdown of a large protest in Ramadi, killing at least 11.

Since Monday, the following general trends have occurred:

1. Sunni militants captured various government buildings in Fallujah, Haditha, Hiit, Ramadi, and Baghdad.
2. Control of the Anbar cities - Fallujah, Haditha, Hiit, and Ramadi - has cycled between the rebels and the Iraqi army.
3. The Iraqi army was told to withdraw from Anbar on Tuesday. Whether this was due to losses or an attempt to defuse the situation is not clear. In either case, the central government reversed this on Wednesday and the army has returned.
4. Additional military councils have begun to emerge in Nineveh province, centered around Mosul.
5. The beginnings of a possible internal conflict for control of the rebellion have emerged between ISIS and the local Sunni tribal leadership.
6. The central government has begun to deploy increasingly powerful military equipment in Anbar. M1 Abrams tanks are in operation around Fallujah and Ramadi, and reports are coming in that military jets are now bombing various locations, possibly using hellfire missiles or other weaponry supplied recently by the Obama administration.
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Military Council of Anbar's demands:

1. Naming the tribal fighters "Military Council of Revolutionaries of Anbar".
2. They call on soldiers not to attack citizens and rebels won't target them + their weapons and equipment are to be handed in to rebels
3. They call on Southern (Shia) tribes to take their sons from Anbar for the unity of this country.
4. Call on Sahwat to return to their tribes instead of killing their own people because this will put this in the trench of the enemies. And if they return to their tribes that they will find safety and if they don't then they have been warned.
5. Army and Swat have to withdraw from Anbar province and not just the cities.
6. Calls on Anbar politicians to withdraw from political scene and that they have legitimized for Maliki to kill, rape and torture them and that if they don't withdraw from the political scene their punishment will be severe.
7. Media should contact appointed representatives.
8. Warning to anyone who destroys public and private property. And they accuse Maliki of robbing and burning public property. #TheEnd

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Sahwa/Sons of Iraq

"The National Council for the Awakening of Iraq, also known as the Sunni Awakening movement, Anbar Awakening, or the Sons of Iraq program, are coalitions between tribal Sheikhs in [Anbar] province in Iraq that unite to maintain security in their communities.

The movement started among Sunni tribes in Anbar Province in 2005 to become an ad hoc armed force across the country in less than a year.

The awakening fighters in Iraq have been credited by some analysts with reducing levels of violence in the areas in which they operate; however, the rapid growth of the groups, whose salaries were initially paid for completely by the US military, has also led to concerns about some members' insurgent pasts fighting against coalition forces and about infiltration by al-Qaeda. Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki has warned that the US-armed 'concerned local citizens' are an armed Sunni opposition in the making, and has argued that such groups should be under the command of the Iraqi Army or police.

In September 2006, the leader of the movement, Sheik Abdul Sattar Buzaigh al-Rishawi, formed the Anbar Awakening Council also called "Anbar Awakening" to counter the influence of Al-Qaeda in Iraq.

In 2009, some awakening groups threatened to set the streets ablaze and "start a tribal war" after not doing well in elections.

The groups are paid by the American military and the Iraqi government to lay down their arms against coalition forces, patrol neighborhoods, and to fight against other Sunni insurgents. The US military says the groups help it target Al-Qaeda in Iraq more precisely and avoid collateral damage. The Washington Post writes the awakening groups have caused al-Qaeda in Iraq to soften its tactics in an effort to regain public support.

By June 6, 2012, about 70,000 members of the group had been integrated into the Iraqi Security Forces or given civilian jobs, with 30,000 continuing to maintain checkpoints and being paid a salary by the government of around $300 per month. On January 29, 2013, Iraqi officials said they would raise the salaries of Awakening Council fighters, the latest bid to appease Sunni anti-government rallies that erupted in December, 2012. Some 41,000 Awakening Council fighters are to receive 500,000 Iraqi dinars ($415) a month, up from 300,000 dinars ($250)."

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Very nice work my friend. This thread is the perfect complement to my thread! hf
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The idea of establishing a capital market here in Erbil is an old one. It goes back to year 2007 when prime minister of Iraqi Kurdistan region Nechirvan Barzani mandated us to study the possibility of establishing another market in Iraq besides Iraq Stock Exchange. Following these directions, many meetings and conferences were held with the presence of Iraq Stock Exchange and the head of Iraqi Securities Commission. A conclusion was reached implying that it is possible to establish another market besides Iraq Stock Exchange, in Erbil. A committee was formed to study this matter and it included 10 members headed by me. 3 of them were counselors at the presidency of the cabinet. There were also the representatives or general managers of the Central Bank in Erbil and Sulaimaniyah, representatives of the chambers of commerce in Iraqi Kurdistan―Erbil, Duhok and Sulaimaniyah,―a counselor of the Minister of Trade and another of the Minister of Planning. The idea was studied and a conclusion was reached indicating that it is possible to establish another market besides Iraq Stock Exchange following the examples in other countries like Dubai and Abu Dhabi. A committee was formed and the idea was proposed to the businesses in Iraqi Kurdistan where a lot of reputable companies became stakeholders. A joint stock company was established to be Erbil Stock Exchange, and so it was based on a joint stock company with 10 billion Iraqi Dinars, about $8 million. The company was established and it had its Board of Directors, and I represent the presidency of the board. We started business and following the directions of the economic committee of Iraqi Kurdistan, we used consultancy services from Louis Berger Group since it worked in a lot of countries all over the world in this area, including its work with Iraq Stock Exchange. An agreement was reached and they have been working with us for 6 months now. It shall continue to provide consultancy to Erbil Stock Exchange for one year and a half more. Since we needed a system to work through, we made a deal with Nasdaq Omex to provide us with a one.


Nasdaq Omex is an internationally known company and it has about 25 markets in many countries and it has also provided systems to more than 70 countries.

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Iraq's falling into full-blown civil war. Check these threads for the details:

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Thread: Sunni gunmen overrun government buildings in Hadeetha, Baghdad, Ramadhi! Rebels seize Anbar TV live on air! Fallujah under siege!

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A summary of the first week of events:

The rebellion was prompted by the central government's arrest of Iraqi Sunni MP Ahmed al-Awlani in Ramadi on Saturday, Dec. 28. During the arrest several members of his family and several of his bodyguards were killed. This prompted Sunni tribesmen in al-Anbar province to issue an immediate 12-hour deadline for al-Awlani's release. This expired on Sunday, and the tribesmen announced the immediate commencement of military action against the central government and the formation a new Sunni military alliance for the protection of al-Anbar and Sunni interests generally (the Jaysh al-Izz wa al-Karama).

Shortly thereafter, over Sunday-Monday, a number of developments took place:

1. Sunni uprisings broke out across Anbar, Nineveh, and Salahadin provinces.
2. Fighting broke out in Fallujah, Ramadi, Haditha, and Mosul in particular.
3. ISIS, an al-Qaeda affiliate in Iraq, joined the Sunni tribes and began attempting to assert their dominance over the rebellion.
4. Sunni clerics across Anbar called for an uprising and jihad against the central government.
5. Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki deployed the Iraqi army in Anbar province to combat the uprising. Several military units began to fly sectarian Shi'ite flags, further antagonizing Sunni locals.
6. Sunni protests broke out centered around Ramadi. On Monday, the Iraqi army initiated a violent crackdown of a large protest in Ramadi, killing at least 11.

Since Monday, the following general trends have occurred:

1. Sunni militants captured various government buildings in Fallujah, Haditha, Hiit, Ramadi, and Baghdad.
2. Control of the Anbar cities - Fallujah, Haditha, Hiit, and Ramadi - has cycled between the rebels and the Iraqi army.
3. The Iraqi army was told to withdraw from Anbar on Tuesday. Whether this was due to losses or an attempt to defuse the situation is not clear. In either case, the central government reversed this on Wednesday and the army has returned.
4. Additional military councils have begun to emerge in Nineveh province, centered around Mosul.
5. The beginnings of a possible internal conflict for control of the rebellion have emerged between ISIS and the local Sunni tribal leadership.
6. The central government has begun to deploy increasingly powerful military equipment in Anbar. M1 Abrams tanks are in operation around Fallujah and Ramadi, and reports are coming in that military jets are now bombing various locations, possibly using hellfire missiles or other weaponry supplied recently by the Obama administration.

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Below I'm going to summarize some basic info on Iraq and the players. If people want to discuss Iraq, they're welcome to. We can talk about the bigger picture so as not to step on Ger_reG's toes with the minute-by-minute reporting.

List of topics and links to their description in the thread:

Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, leader of ISIS Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!
(Killed in Ramadi, 1/2/14)

Anbar Governate Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

Dulaim tribe Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

Fallujah Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

Haditha Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

ISIS - Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant [Syria/Sham] Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

Mosul Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

Muqtada al-Sadr
Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!! (Page 2)

Nineveh Governate Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!! (Page 2)

Nouri al-Maliki Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!! (Page 2)

Ramadi Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!!

Sahwa/Sons of Iraq
Thread: 'THE END IS HERE': ISIS/ISLAMIC STATE PRIMER - Oct 11: MAJOR Syria update - We are supplying al-Qaeda in Syria, confirmed by ISW!!! (Page 2)

Misc:

VERY detailed summary. Start here
[link to iswiraq.blogspot.com]

Summary in context of past 2 years
[link to www.aina.org]

Aljazeera America
[link to america.aljazeera.com]

BBC
[link to www.bbc.co.uk]

USA Today
[link to www.usatoday.com]

Map of the religious division of Iraq [link to thesinosaudiblog.files.wordpress.com]

Map of the governates [states] of Iraq [link to upload.wikimedia.org]

Letter announcing the formation of the Jaysh al-Izz wa al-Karama, the military leadership of the rebellion [link to www.facebook.com (secure)]
(AC 26782986 translates it as: "In the name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful. Today, we the righteous people of the blessed land, announce the formation of a new jihad army, Jaysh al-Izz wa al-Karama [the Army of the Dignified al Izz, a Muslim scholar and judge in the 14th century] who will defend our homeland against the infidels of that criminal al Maliki. We will wage jihad over this blessed country until we have established an Ummah (Ination), not only in Anbar but in all of Iraq. God is the Greatest, God is the Greatest.")
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Very impressive.
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We should be sending those people a bill to pay for their liberation.

One trillion US dollars, and 4500 American lives spent to liberate them -- and they don't even appreciate our sacrifice.
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We should be sending those people a bill to pay for their liberation.

One trillion US dollars, and 4500 American lives spent to liberate them -- and they don't even appreciate our sacrifice.
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Seeing the Iraqis as a unified "they" who want liberation was an error inherent in the US invasion. Iraq is a mass of various groups, most of whom didn't want "liberation" in the first place. They opposed Saddam, but sure as hell didn't want democracy.
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Bump for those looking for info.

Mods, can you pin this? Lots of people are looking for info on ISIS.
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Great thread.

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Like him or not Saddam was a stabilizing factor....
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^THIS EXACTLY^
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Peshmerga

"Peshmerga or Peshmerge is the term used by Kurds to refer to armed Kurdish fighters. Literally meaning "those who confront death" (Pesh front + marg death) the Peshmerga forces of Kurdistan have been in existence since the advent of the Kurdish independence movement in the early 1920s, following the collapse of the Ottoman and Qajar empires which had jointly ruled over the area. Peshmerga forces include women in their ranks. Many Kurds will say that all Kurds willing to fight for their rights are Peshmerga. The term remains in contemporary usage, sometimes written as pesh merga in Anglophone media.

The term Peshmerga is also the official name of the armed forces of the Kurdistan Regional Government in the autonomous Kurdistan Region.

As an ally of the US-led coalition, Peshmerga forces fought side by side with American troops in the 2003 Iraq War in Iraqi Kurdistan. Since that time the Peshmerga have assumed full responsibility for the security of the Kurdish areas of Northern Iraq. In late 2004, when Arab Iraqi Police and ING (Iraqi National Guard) units in the city of Mosul collapsed in the face of an insurgent uprising, Kurdish Peshmerga battalions, who had recently been converted into ING forces, led the counter-attack alongside US military units. To this day, there are a number of Kurdish battalions of former Peshmerga in the Iraqi Army serving in Northern Iraq. These unit are mostly part of the reformed 2nd Division (Iraq), stationed in Mosul.

A recent CBS News reports places their number at 375,000."

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Kurdistan

"Kurdistan is a roughly defined geo-cultural region wherein the Kurdish people form a prominent majority population, and Kurdish culture, language, and national identity have historically been based. Contemporary use of Kurdistan refers to large parts of eastern Turkey (Turkish Kurdistan), northern Iraq (Iraqi Kurdistan), northwestern Iran (Iranian Kurdistan) and northeastern Syria (Syrian Kurdistan) inhabited mainly by Kurds. Kurdistan roughly encompasses the northwestern Zagros and the eastern Taurus mountain ranges, and covers small portions of Armenia.

Iraqi Kurdistan first gained autonomous status in a 1970 agreement with the Iraqi government, and its status was re-confirmed as an autonomous entity within the federal Iraqi republic in 2005.

Kurds fighting in the Syrian civil war were able to take control of large sections of Northeast Syria as forces loyal to al-Assad withdrew to fight elsewhere. Having established their own government, some Kurds called for autonomy in a democratic Syria; others hoped to establish an independent Kurdistan.

Some Kurdish nationalist organizations seek to create an independent nation state of Kurdistan, consisting of some or all of the areas with Kurdish majority, while others campaign for greater Kurdish autonomy within the existing national boundaries.

A 2010 US report says that "Kurdistan may exist by 2030." Given the instability that has overcome Syria and Iraq since then this may a conservative estimate."

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