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Anthony Burgess called the depopulation/homosexual agenda in 1962 with his book "The Wanting Seed."

 
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Anthony Burgess called the depopulation/homosexual agenda in 1962 with his book "The Wanting Seed."
Read it. Anthony Burgess is a great writer (he is the author of "A Clockwork Orange"), but his 1962 book "The Wanting Seed" is mostly forgotten. Probabaly because it hits uncomfortably close to the truth. It paints a dystopian near-future world where a society obsessed with overpopulation and the environment tries to eradicate heterosexuality.

The government uses the slogan, "It's Salpiens to be Homo." Fashion is androgynous; the media glorifies whispy, wimpy men and mannish women. There is open discrimination against heterosexuals. The media is instrumental in pushing this, and it is also enforced by the government. Sterilization is encouraged. As the book progresses (WARNING: minor spoiler), even cannibalism is encouraged to thin the population, with cannibalistic "dining clubs" becoming all the rage.

Burgess called it. Read this book and be amazed.
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Burgess is one of our most prized dystopian writers.. Unfortunately many of the self-proclaimed conspiracy theorists here haven't even read Orwell... Good luck getting them to dissect Burgess' amazing body of work. Burgess was highly disturbed by our programmable human nature. He predicted the nefarious intentions of the media's tools and techniques. He warned strongly against consumerism and taught us to be weary of the daily bombardment of mental and emotional manipulation we endure everyday at the hands of our masters.

Kurt Vonnegutt is great too. The short story of Harrison Bergeon.. warned us to shy away from this fantasy ideal of equality we so pathetically attempt to uphold. These dytopias are almost always created by a ruling class or single man attempting to make the world better. Forcing everyone to be legally and literally equal would destroy our most powerful and progressive thinkers. Telling us, no, brainwashing us to think that men and women are equal or that intelligence and free thought is shameful... those are the things destroying us.. This is where newspeak from 1984 comes in... By controlling and altering the connotations of words, you can effectively reprogram an entire population of people.

I just wish some of us here... Especially people like "us" who come to places like GLP.. People like us who have alternative thinking and views, I just wish we would challenge the ideals more.. I wish we could question our own desire or need to conform or ascribe to how the masses think.. When's the last time you truly spoke your mind, free of fear of judgment or attack? And when is the last time you listened to a person's beliefs and even if you didn't agree, you were grateful to hear that has opposing views?

Think about it, when all we have left is like-minded people, we lose the ability to break check each other, checks and balances :)
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Re: Anthony Burgess called the depopulation/homosexual agenda in 1962 with his book "The Wanting Seed."
Ill have to check out The Wanting Seed. Great thread and great comment from the second poster. Ive come to think over the years that the elite are borrowing their playbook from books like this instead of the other way around. Politicians and the like are rarely innovative and hardly creative, but they are excellent at manipulating other peoples ideas and plans. It sounds like they might have gotten some ideas from The Wanting Seed and it might be a valuable source of intelligence.
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Re: Anthony Burgess called the depopulation/homosexual agenda in 1962 with his book "The Wanting Seed."
Burgess is one of our most prized dystopian writers.. Unfortunately many of the self-proclaimed conspiracy theorists here haven't even read Orwell... Good luck getting them to dissect Burgess' amazing body of work. Burgess was highly disturbed by our programmable human nature. He predicted the nefarious intentions of the media's tools and techniques. He warned strongly against consumerism and taught us to be weary of the daily bombardment of mental and emotional manipulation we endure everyday at the hands of our masters.

Kurt Vonnegutt is great too. The short story of Harrison Bergeon.. warned us to shy away from this fantasy ideal of equality we so pathetically attempt to uphold. These dytopias are almost always created by a ruling class or single man attempting to make the world better. Forcing everyone to be legally and literally equal would destroy our most powerful and progressive thinkers. Telling us, no, brainwashing us to think that men and women are equal or that intelligence and free thought is shameful... those are the things destroying us.. This is where newspeak from 1984 comes in... By controlling and altering the connotations of words, you can effectively reprogram an entire population of people.

I just wish some of us here... Especially people like "us" who come to places like GLP.. People like us who have alternative thinking and views, I just wish we would challenge the ideals more.. I wish we could question our own desire or need to conform or ascribe to how the masses think.. When's the last time you truly spoke your mind, free of fear of judgment or attack? And when is the last time you listened to a person's beliefs and even if you didn't agree, you were grateful to hear that has opposing views?

Think about it, when all we have left is like-minded people, we lose the ability to break check each other, checks and balances :)
My crazies balance out your normals and it's all reciprocal <35ahf
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KV talked about the government and overpopulation controls...a lot.

The most surreal of his speculations on this is, "Welcome to the Monkey House", which shows a government that brainwashes its world population into taking drugs that make them totally numb from the navel down, while they also take drugs to cease aging. Throw in the purple-roofed suicide parlors with smoking hot chicks who do you in with a gleaming smile, thereby linking the only real sexuality with death, and you get the picture. ("Futurama" borrowed this idea for the show. The writers touch on a lot of KV material, so they seem to be fans.)

And, yes, Harrison Bergeron is a perfect, absurd portrait of do-gooders' attempts to make everything "fair".
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‘It’s Sapiens to be Homo’

The "Homosex Institutes" are today´s public schools. Get ´em while their young.
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Re: Anthony Burgess called the depopulation/homosexual agenda in 1962 with his book "The Wanting Seed."
Refreshing literacy in all the comments.

GLP needs this!
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Re: Anthony Burgess called the depopulation/homosexual agenda in 1962 with his book "The Wanting Seed."
I hadn't thought about it until now but maybe Burgess was himself homosexual, that would explain a lot.
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I hadn't thought about it until now but maybe Burgess was himself homosexual, that would explain a lot.
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Yes, because everyone who refuese to grovel and cringe before the alter of the sacred fag is a homo himself right? Sorry, "he who smelt it, delt it" is not an acceptable argument tactic beyone grade-school.

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Re: Anthony Burgess called the depopulation/homosexual agenda in 1962 with his book "The Wanting Seed."
I hadn't thought about it until now but maybe Burgess was himself homosexual, that would explain a lot.
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Yes, because everyone who refuese to grovel and cringe before the alter of the sacred fag is a homo himself right? Sorry, "he who smelt it, delt it" is not an acceptable argument tactic beyone grade-school.

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He worked in the foreign service, Malaya and Brunei, so it would fit the general pattern. Maybe not vanilla homosexuality of the kind in vogue today, perhaps something much darker
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Re: Anthony Burgess called the depopulation/homosexual agenda in 1962 with his book "The Wanting Seed."
As a kid watching the movie A Clockwork Orange I had the impression, and I sure most young people do, the movie was sort of sympathetic to the emerging youth culture of the 1960s but now as an adult I'm quite certain the author's intention was the exact opposite of that, and was supposed to be a warning call about what was coming. In his book the hooligans spoke russian which was an important clue, not only because of the cold war hysteria, but also because of the minority culture jewish immigrants from this region who had become important to the empire's intelligence apparatus.
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Re: Anthony Burgess called the depopulation/homosexual agenda in 1962 with his book "The Wanting Seed."
Kubrick was himself a Russian jew immigrant and it was his adaptation of A Clockwork Orange that gives a sympathetic treatment to the hooligans that I doubt the author of the book shared.
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Re: Anthony Burgess called the depopulation/homosexual agenda in 1962 with his book "The Wanting Seed."
Burgess was a closet homosexual. The book in question is supposed to make people look at the society they live in, and imagine the roles had been reversed, straight people being persecuted instead of gay people. Which is done in an attempt to get people to empathise more with gay people.The book even has society transitioning from vilifying heterosexual trends to glorifying free love and orgies, which is a mirror image of what some people believe will happen if gay people are accepted. The other themes are government brainwashing, population control and human nature.
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Kubrick was himself a Russian jew immigrant and it was his adaptation of A Clockwork Orange that gives a sympathetic treatment to the hooligans that I doubt the author of the book shared.
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Kubrick was not an immigrant from Russia. He was third generation Polish. Sheesh!

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