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Did Chief Justice Roberts Actually Set A Trap For Obama?

 
Anonymous Coward
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What trap? What was the enticement into the trap? What did he catch?
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Said it was a tax. Taxes can't originate in the Senate. Checkmate.
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The Senate took up a parliamentary trick often used to circumvent the Constitution. They grabbed a House bill, gutted out every word and put in the PPACA.
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What is this "constitution" you speak of?
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What trap? What was the enticement into the trap? What did he catch?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16118744


Said it was a tax. Taxes can't originate in the Senate. Checkmate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51153274


The Senate took up a parliamentary trick often used to circumvent the Constitution. They grabbed a House bill, gutted out every word and put in the PPACA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52069016


What is this "constitution" you speak of?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51965665


according to shrub "just a g-d piece of paper".
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01/03/2014 10:50 PM
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Justice Roberts may not have sold us out, like it appears he did, but he may actually be rubbing our noses in it, like the owner of a puppy that just took a dump on the carpet.

January 2, 2014

The Roberts Trap Is Sprung

By Bill Dunne

One of the most overlooked aspects of the year just ended is the vindication of Chief Justice John Roberts -- a vindication that showed up as the national catastrophe known as ObamaCare got rolling. Roberts may have also doomed Hillary Clinton's chance to live in the White House again.


The chief justice, an appointee of President George W. Bush and reputedly a constitutionalist in his jurisprudence, set his diabolical trap (diabolical to Democrats) on June 28, 2012, when he joined with the four liberal justices on the Supreme Court to uphold the constitutionality of ObamaCare. Conservatives and Republicans across the land were apoplectic. But in hindsight, it appears that Roberts actually saved the Republican Party from going into a death spiral and imperiled the Democrats instead. This suggests amazing foresight, but it wouldn't be the only instance.
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"The thing is, however, that the decision has spawned another Great Awakening, because ObamaCare is a civics lesson from hell, with vast implications for America's future. This would not be happening if the law had been squelched in the cradle. People who ordinarily couldn't care less about wonky debates over federal power now see that the law has less to do with insuring the uninsured than with one political party's lunge for unprecedented power and control over people's lives."

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I have been saying saying we are on this timeline for a reason.
A lesson must be learned that would not be learned otherwise.
The sheep must learn.

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The sheep have to learn that we can't just sit back and do nothing, and expect some Wise Old Men to keep saving our silly asses for us. We have to do the work and save our own asses. And our country.

Citizenship is not a spectator sport.

Maybe that's the lesson he wants us to learn. And obviously, the only way to learn that lesson is the hard way.
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01/03/2014 10:53 PM
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No I'm sorry, but this is simply wishful thinking. We're supposed to believe that John Roberts was simply so convinced that Obamacare would be such a complete disaster that he allowed it to continue in order to prove a point? Let's just say that's true, since so many called this train wreck far before it was implemented, that still doesn't excuse allowing the law to be implemented. The purpose of Obamacare is to fail such that the left can make an argument for a single payer healthcare system. They NEED it to collapse. At no point in history have we ever seen, nor will we ever see, an entitlement program be implemented and then revoked. Once you give out a freebee, the government will always give out that freebee, in one form or another. Obamacare isn't going anywhere. It will simply become bigger, more powerful, and a larger waste of money. John Roberts accomplished nothing other than adding to the downfall of our country.
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Said it was a tax. Taxes can't originate in the Senate. Checkmate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51153274


The Senate took up a parliamentary trick often used to circumvent the Constitution. They grabbed a House bill, gutted out every word and put in the PPACA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52069016


What is this "constitution" you speak of?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51965665


according to shrub "just a g-d piece of paper".
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Constitution is safe and sound, although it may hang by a thread...
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01/03/2014 11:23 PM
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Roberts, I gave you a republic if you can keep it.
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The key i heard, and i don't remember from whom, but it was a Judge, was; If you don't ever pay or make an effort to join, there can be no penalty. And that will fall > To the courts to decide ... Like the ball never really left the court, unless no one stands.

You never bought the product, how can one be responsible for it, much less a penalty. There would necessarily be a higher price to pay; like a signature or an actual agreement. At least a contract of sorts to work with...

So, and why is the U.S. in Business to sell products they know nothing about, nor have any control of, and it seems like people are in more danger from a system that now just doesn't care.
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A liability...

interesting word, and turn of events.
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Republicans and Democrats are suckers being played off against each other by the oligarchs in power.

The goal appears to be techno-feudalism, with the powers that be on the top.
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most people miss the Feudalism.
The new world order is far from new.
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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Said it was a tax. Taxes can't originate in the Senate. Checkmate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51153274


The Senate took up a parliamentary trick often used to circumvent the Constitution. They grabbed a House bill, gutted out every word and put in the PPACA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52069016


What is this "constitution" you speak of?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51965665


according to shrub "just a g-d piece of paper".
 Quoting: s. d. butler


that has frustrated them for generations. They dismantled the education system and got the ignorant bastards to vote them in. Now they take down the Constitution. Welcome to serfdom.
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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01/06/2014 09:34 PM
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I told you so. I friggin' told you so!


Roberts refuses:
"Chief Justice John Roberts turned away without comment Monday an emergency stay request from the Association of American Physicians & Surgeons... They asked the chief justice Friday to temporarily block the law, saying Congress had passed it incorrectly by starting it in the Senate instead of the House."
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Damn Judas traitor.
"God forbid we should ever be 20 years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, & always, well informed... If they remain quiet under such misconceptions it is a lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty... Let them take arms... What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. " - Thomas Jefferson in 1787
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