Obama Busted: Birth Cert Contains Words/Places That Did Not Exist In 1961! African American & Kenya

Here we go with more BS.

Now that we know we don't have a president in office,
who is going to actually live like we don't have a president
and revert to the Constitution?

Consider the ramifications.

Isn't it interesting how shills and naysayers always appear as AC's!

A 'Hit and Run' is easy when you're an anonymous coward!

emb that baby

now you know i have to copy that smilie...

friggin hilarious

:ohlook:

Oh look. It's that smilie again.

I'm not clicking on that youtube thingy you placed there. What IS it?

this

what bullshit

do you guys even research things before you make a thread?

Do you guys ever do any research before electing a president?

They don't care about the truth. This is just a propaganda thread.

the independent nation of kenya was establihed in `63. the name kenya, as used to describe a place, existed long before that

So it was but Kenya was not used in official internationally recognised documents as it was not internationally recognised as Kenya at the time!

Throw the pos out!

In the 19th century, the German explorer Ludwig Krapf recorded the name as both Kenia and Kegnia believed by some to be a corruption of the Kamba version.[12][13][14] Others say that this was—on the contrary—a very precise notation of a correct African pronunciation /ˈkɛnjə/.[15] A 1882 map drawn by Joseph Thompsons, a Scottish geologist and naturalist, indicated Mt. Kenya as Mt. Kenia, 18620.[11] Controversy over the actual meaning of the word Kenya notwithstanding, it is clear that the mountain's name became widely accepted, pars pro toto, as the name of the country.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

African-American history starts in the 16th century, with Africans forcibly taken to Spanish and English colonies in North America as slaves.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]


this thread is a joke

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
could you show me where in the constitution it states that the presidents parents must also be natural born u.s. citizens? if it did say that, the first few presidents like washington and jefferson would have been disqualified as their
parents were born at a time when the u.s.did not exist.
the term "negro" was used exclusively to describe black people born in the u.s. of america, not those born outside. the term "caucasian" was only sporadically in use in official documents. that is why it is well with in the range of probability that the term "african would be used to describe someones race. just as the term"asian" or "european" could have been used in official documents

A birth certificate would have the official name of the place of birth, not what it is "known as".

Your AC comment is a joke!

We are not talking about the 19th century or any other time than the time of the supposed document - at which time, the place in question was not called Internationally by the name Kenya! Officially recognised international documents of the time would not have used the name Kenya!

Last Edited by Ozicell on 01/04/2014 07:28 AM

First of all, to debunk African-American entirely, they used Afro-American originally. I'm not trying to be racist here, this is the history of terms used and WHY his birth certificate would not have read AFRICAN for father.

It doesn't say African American on his birth certificate. It says African for father and Caucasian for mother. Accuser is completely right though. African American was not used until the 80s. For father it would say NEGRO or BLACK. Period, there was no other "race" used for blacks at that time. It asks Race of Father African. African is NOT a race, it's a place. It was never and would not even mistakenly be used as a race. What they need to prove is that Obama was the only kid born with a father listed as African. I guarantee any others say Negro or Black at that time in Hawaii.

[link to www.whitehouse.gov]

Jesse Jackson announces in 1988 that blacks prefer to be called African American and says they were black or negro through the late 1960s.
[link to www.jstor.org]


I'm listing this because the Census and Birth registration are both Federal. They would use the same terminology with no special notes for someone from Africa or any other black from another country.

1930
"The biggest change in this year’s census was in racial classification. Enumerators were instructed to no longer use the "Mulatto" classification. Instead, they were given special instructions for reporting the race of interracial persons. A person with both white and black ancestry (termed "blood") was to be recorded as "Negro," no matter the fraction of that lineage (the "one-drop rule")

1950
The 1950 Census questionnaire removed the word “color” from the racial question.

1960
The 1960 Census re-added the word “color” to the racial question, and changed “Indian” to “American Indian”, as well as added Hawaiian, Part-Hawaiian, Aleut, and Eskimo. The Other (print out race) option was removed.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Beginning in 1960, the Census Bureau began to use forms similar to the ones in use today, with a single form for an entire household rather than having multiple households included on the form completed by an enumerator. Census forms were mailed to most people, but census-takers picked them up. The data item is called “Color or race” with categories for “White, Negro, American Indian, Japanese, Chinese, Filipino, Hawaiian, Part Hawaiian, Aleut, Eskimo, (etc.)” Note that “black” did not appear on the form. The instructions called for census-takers to complete the race item by observation, and directed that Puerto Ricans, Mexicans, or other persons of Latin descent would be classified as ‘‘White’’ unless they were definitely “Negro,” “Indian,” or some other race. Southern European and Near Eastern nationalities also were to be considered “White.” Asian Indians were to be classified as ‘‘Other,’’ and ‘‘Hindu’’ was to be written in."
[link to www.pewsocialtrends.org]



During World War II, it was the British colony of Kenya.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
"Though minimal fighting occurred in Kenya itself, it remained an important economic asset for the Allies and also contributed a significant number of soldiers to fight in the British Army." Absolutely impossible his real father served in WWII since he was born in 1936 and the WWII was all over with by 1945. Even post-war was over by 1948, his father would have been 12.

"My father served in World War 2 and when he came home, he got the services that he needed."
In the context Obama says this, he definitely means "home" as America. His father was not even an American...ever.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

I had seen the hospital name argument before. According to Wiki, the correct name is on his birth certificate:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Anyone who had anything to do with "legalizing" him have met with untimely deaths. I say that if they haven't been able to solidly prove it by now, they never will. I did a thread on this myself involving his Social Security number being registered to person named Bounel born in 1890 and said SS# was issued in Connecticut (Obama never lived in CT). They can't get that through the courts so far either. Of interest though is that no one can prove that number was NOT issued in CT to a man named Bounel born in 1890 in Russia.

My favorite is still when Michelle says they "took a trip to Africa and visited his home country in Kenya":



The literary agency, Dystel & Goderich was going to publish Obama's first book Journeys in Black and White (it was never published). The biography they used for Obama from 1991 to 2007 says:

"Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, he attended Columbia University and worked as a financial journalist and editor for Business International Corporation. He served as project coordinator in Harlem for the New York Public Interest Research Group, and was Executive Director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago's South Side. His commitment to social and racial issues will be evident in his first book, Journeys in Black and White."

The booklet, which was distributed to “business colleagues” in the publishing industry, includes a brief biography of Obama among the biographies of eighty-nine other authors represented by Acton & Dystel.
[link to therightscoop.com]
[Journeys in Black and White was never published.]

Picture of the actual booklet saying this:
[link to www.therightscoop.com]

Why Kenyan Birth Claim Was No 'Fact Checking Error'
[link to www.americanthinker.com]

The gal that says she made the error on above bio is now a full partner of that literary agency. For 16 years, Obama did not notice the mistake of Kenya being his birthplace? Yes, of course. And also of course, this gal mistakenly assumed a financial journalist, editor for Business International Corporation, Harvard Law Review president, project coordinator in Harlem for the New York Public Interest Research Group and Executive Director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago was born in Kenya and therefore wrote it on his bio.

so what was it called than?

What it was internationally called at the time is well documented - do your own research!

already have! untill 1920, it was called british east africa. after 1920 it was called the protectorate of kenya.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

This pos is a fraud!

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

24 April 1954

Security forces have rounded up more than 10,000 men in the biggest anti-Mau Mau operation since a state of emergency was declared in Kenya 18 months ago.

The British authorities have ordered the clampdown on the Mau Mau, a guerilla movement opposed to white settlers in the East African colony, following a breakdown in law and order.

Those suspects found to be Mau Mau supporters will be sent to detention camps for further questioning.

More than 4,000 British and African troops, Nairobi's entire police force and African loyalists are involved in the operation. They have orders to shoot to kill if there is any armed resistance.

As a mulatto myself, I know that Obama is too dark-skinned to have been born of a fair-skinned white mother. He's more likely the illegitimate offspring of Dunham Sr and a black woman.

4 year old knowledge is news now is it?

Now go make me a sammich!

this is the link i intended to post: [link to en.wikipedia.org]