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Regulators Discover a Hidden Viral Gene in Commercial GMO Crops

 
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Do you really think Monsanto cares if it kills us? I believe that is the plan.
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Do you really think Monsanto cares if it kills us? I believe that is the plan.
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I don't think they really care if they kill us or not, as long as they have total control of our food. I seriously doubt they, or their families, eat what they sow.
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Do you really think Monsanto cares if it kills us? I believe that is the plan.
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I don't think they really care if they kill us or not, as long as they have total control of our food. I seriously doubt they, or their families, eat what they sow.
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yep, bill gates and others have a vast cache of natural seeds for when to start over
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I only buy GMO free.
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"Organic" can be up to 30 % GMO. Many "organic" foods contain canola oil which is GMO. Cross pollination has introduced GMO characteristics into many non GMO crops. Unless your food came out of some biosphere I don't know how anyone can eat GMO free.
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wow, thank you OP for posting.

It is terrible news and further proof of the planned coming collapse. Prepare, grow food.
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That's why I grow most of my own shit. Two tower gardens and a couple raised beds. Feeds my whole family and we save thousands each year. All heirloom seeds.
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I only buy GMO free.
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"Organic" can be up to 30 % GMO. Many "organic" foods contain canola oil which is GMO. Cross pollination has introduced GMO characteristics into many non GMO crops. Unless your food came out of some biosphere I don't know how anyone can eat GMO free.
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 Quoting: <<orbs>>

I asked AC and got no answer, so I'll ask you, too.

Show me where it says cross-pollination pollutes organic corn up to 30%.

Additionally, organic canola oil can be purchased. Saying it's all GMO is just ignorant, although it would be affected by pollination issues as well.
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Let cheerios and the newly found funding from Colorado, intermix in an ongoing opening of the barrels.

Cheerios will rake it in, and change the litteral landscapes.

You see proper funding pays for pensions.
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I only buy GMO free.
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"Organic" can be up to 30 % GMO. Many "organic" foods contain canola oil which is GMO. Cross pollination has introduced GMO characteristics into many non GMO crops. Unless your food came out of some biosphere I don't know how anyone can eat GMO free.
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:bigbump:
 Quoting: <<orbs>>

I asked AC and got no answer, so I'll ask you, too.

Show me where it says cross-pollination pollutes organic corn up to 30%.

Additionally, organic canola oil can be purchased. Saying it's all GMO is just ignorant, although it would be affected by pollination issues as well.
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The underlined is what I agree with, percentages are for you and the ac to argue over :)
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Unless your food came out of some biosphere I don't know how anyone can eat GMO free.
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The underlined is what I agree with, percentages are for you and the ac to argue over :)
 Quoting: <<orbs>>


Hehe, thanks. Not sure about the regulations in the UK, I thought Europe in general wasn't as accepting of GMOs as the US is, but here, the regulations are pretty clear on what "organic" means:

Foods labeled as “organic” are not allowed to contain any GMOs, according to USDA’s organic certification standards.
[link to www.foodsafetynews.com]

Here's the USDA standards, if you care to read them:
[link to www.ams.usda.gov]
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Thanks for the links, unsure of the regulations here, but it is common sense to except that cross pollination will happen.
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I only buy GMO free.
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I doubt it, much of what you eat contains some form of gmo and it is not labeled, you don't know it's in there.
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I only buy GMO free.
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I doubt it, much of what you eat contains some form of gmo and it is not labeled, you don't know it's in there.
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I only buy GMO free.
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"Organic" can be up to 30 % GMO. Many "organic" foods contain canola oil which is GMO. Cross pollination has introduced GMO characteristics into many non GMO crops. Unless your food came out of some biosphere I don't know how anyone can eat GMO free.
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Link to the regulation that says that?

Accepting a small cross-pollination percentage of risk in organic corn products (like canola) and buying organic is a better choice than Stouffer's Lasagna & Kraft Mac/Chz.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


Federal regulations state that organic foods must be 70% organic and that the remaining 30% must not be GM but several sites claim that GMs get into the 30%.

From the wiki article How to Avoid Genetically Modified Foods:
"Just because something says "organic" on it does not mean that it does not contain GM's. In fact, it can still contain up to 30% GMs, so be sure the label says 100% organic ... Do not consider a product 100% organic if it is only USDA Organic Certified."

[link to m.wikihow.com]

Canola is not a corn product, it comes from a genetically modified rapeseed plant (genetically modified to remove bitterness) and is exempt from FDA testing. It has a Generally Recognized As Safe (GRAS) exemption - thats what $50M will buy you from the FDA. Search canola on GLP.
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It's simple. Money buys a better class of food, which leads to overall better health.
Make the connection people.... Hahaha~
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a package organic vegetable seeds only cost a couple bucks.
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I only buy GMO free.
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"Organic" can be up to 30 % GMO. Many "organic" foods contain canola oil which is GMO. Cross pollination has introduced GMO characteristics into many non GMO crops. Unless your food came out of some biosphere I don't know how anyone can eat GMO free.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31515251

Link to the regulation that says that?

Accepting a small cross-pollination percentage of risk in organic corn products (like canola) and buying organic is a better choice than Stouffer's Lasagna & Kraft Mac/Chz.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


Federal regulations state that organic foods must be 70% organic and that the remaining 30% must not be GM but several sites claim that GMs get into the 30%.

From the wiki article How to Avoid Genetically Modified Foods:
"Just because something says "organic" on it does not mean that it does not contain GM's. In fact, it can still contain up to 30% GMs, so be sure the label says 100% organic ... Do not consider a product 100% organic if it is only USDA Organic Certified."

[link to m.wikihow.com]

Canola is not a corn product, it comes from a genetically modified rapeseed plant (genetically modified to remove bitterness) and is exempt from FDA testing. It has a Generally Recognized As Safe (GRAS) exemption - thats what $50M will buy you from the FDA. Search canola on GLP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31515251

Thanks for the info. I really thought canola was corn! I've only found one bottle of organic canola; it's real scarce, I'll just avoid it from now on.

Most of the stuff I buy is raw (like a chicken breast or radish, etc...we cook a lot here), but I'll definitely be on the lookout for the 100% label if I don't see a Non-GMO stamp on it.

Many thanks again!
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I only buy GMO free.
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I doubt it, much of what you eat contains some form of gmo and it is not labeled, you don't know it's in there.
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putin
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So again, how to you guarantee that your food is GMO free? The only way I know of is to buy only food certified as "100% Organic". That's not an easy task.
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I doubt it, much of what you eat contains some form of gmo and it is not labeled, you don't know it's in there.
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putin
 Quoting: Stoned Goddess


So again, how to you guarantee that your food is GMO free? The only way I know of is to buy only food certified as "100% Organic". That's not an easy task.
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I only buy GMO free.
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I doubt it, much of what you eat contains some form of gmo and it is not labeled, you don't know it's in there.
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putin
 Quoting: Stoned Goddess


So again, how to you guarantee that your food is GMO free? The only way I know of is to buy only food certified as "100% Organic". That's not an easy task.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


1) I visit the farm my food comes from, and see what they feed their animals, they hare happy to educate people on their process.
2) The taste is distinctly different.
3) I live in a community where eating healthy and being "green" and all that stuff is a priority, it's not hard at all to find GMO free. There are farms all over. It's also equal or even cheaper in cost than regular meat, due to the demand.

As I already said, there are ethical ma and pop farms, who want to provide the community with proper food. They don't get shut down like they do in the US, although every year TPTB try to shut down farmers markets due to bogus sanitary issues. But the will of the people does not let that happen.

I'm done trying to convince you people that I can get GMO free. If you still don't believe me, fly to Vancouver BC and I'll fucking show you myself. What is it you all think I'm losing? (rhetorical question, I'm done responding here).
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Here's the real deal on US Organic labeling. There are four categories:

100% Organic
All organic ingredients
Any processing aids used must be organic
No non-organic ingredients are used
USDA Seal allowed
Must list organic certification agent
Example: 100% Organic Cereal

Organic
At least 95% organic ingredients
Remaining 5% can be non-organic allowed ingredients (i.e. vitamins, citric acid, baking powder)
All agricultural ingredients must be organic unless not available
USDA Seal allowed
Must list certification agent
Example: Organic Cereal

Made with Organic Ingredients
At least 70% organic ingredients
Remaining 30% can be non-organic allowed ingredients (i.e. vitamins, citric acid, baking powder) OR non-organic agricultural ingredients
USDA Seal prohibited
Must list certification agent
Example: Cereal made with organic oats, raisins, and dates

Products with less than 70% Organic Ingredients
Any level of organic ingredients
No restrictions on remaining ingredients
No certification claims can be made
USDA Seal prohibited
Only mention organic in ingredient listing
Example: ingredients: organic oats, organic raisins

Source: [link to tilth.org]

There is additional certification that can be obtained above the four USDA categories if you're really twitchy about it, I guess, like the link above.

Here's another source talking about the categories above:
[link to www.nongmoshoppingguide.com]
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I doubt it, much of what you eat contains some form of gmo and it is not labeled, you don't know it's in there.
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putin
 Quoting: Stoned Goddess


So again, how to you guarantee that your food is GMO free? The only way I know of is to buy only food certified as "100% Organic". That's not an easy task.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


1) I visit the farm my food comes from, and see what they feed their animals, they hare happy to educate people on their process.
2) The taste is distinctly different.
3) I live in a community where eating healthy and being "green" and all that stuff is a priority, it's not hard at all to find GMO free. There are farms all over. It's also equal or even cheaper in cost than regular meat, due to the demand.

As I already said, there are ethical ma and pop farms, who want to provide the community with proper food. They don't get shut down like they do in the US, although every year TPTB try to shut down farmers markets due to bogus sanitary issues. But the will of the people does not let that happen.

I'm done trying to convince you people that I can get GMO free. If you still don't believe me, fly to Vancouver BC and I'll fucking show you myself. What is it you all think I'm losing? (rhetorical question, I'm done responding here).
 Quoting: Stoned Goddess


The vast majority of work-a-day people require foods to be labeled in order to avoid GMOs. Without labeling, it is virtually impossible for MOST people.
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Fuck monsanto.
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I only buy GMO free.
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I doubt it, much of what you eat contains some form of gmo and it is not labeled, you don't know it's in there.
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putin
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Ok, you asked for it, you people know very little about not much at all.

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I doubt it, much of what you eat contains some form of gmo and it is not labeled, you don't know it's in there.
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putin
 Quoting: Stoned Goddess


So again, how to you guarantee that your food is GMO free? The only way I know of is to buy only food certified as "100% Organic". That's not an easy task.
 Quoting: Adventus Domini


1) I visit the farm my food comes from, and see what they feed their animals, they hare happy to educate people on their process.
2) The taste is distinctly different.
3) I live in a community where eating healthy and being "green" and all that stuff is a priority, it's not hard at all to find GMO free. There are farms all over. It's also equal or even cheaper in cost than regular meat, due to the demand.

As I already said, there are ethical ma and pop farms, who want to provide the community with proper food. They don't get shut down like they do in the US, although every year TPTB try to shut down farmers markets due to bogus sanitary issues. But the will of the people does not let that happen.

I'm done trying to convince you people that I can get GMO free. If you still don't believe me, fly to Vancouver BC and I'll fucking show you myself. What is it you all think I'm losing? (rhetorical question, I'm done responding here).
 Quoting: Stoned Goddess


And no one said you could not get 'it', most people get their food supply from a supermarket. How many people have easy access to pure organic farm produce... ...well you of course, don't know if you're trying to be smug or help, does all your food come from the farm, all of it, see link above, not that smug.
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gmo does not have to be labeled:

Mandatory labeling of genetically engineered (GE) foods in the United States has been proposed, but not enacted, at the national, state, and local levels.

[link to www.ext.colostate.edu]

but also if it is an open pollinated crop, produce can be contaminated even if the plants were "organic" or natural to begin with:

Last year, Vetter's organic corn tested positive for genetic contamination. "We've been letting customers who buy in bulk know the situation," says Vetter. "Right now, most of it is still sitting in storage on the farm."

Vetter and the Fitzgeralds are not alone. Organic farmers are having an increasingly difficult time preventing genetically modified organisms (GMOs) from migrating into their fields.

[link to www.progressive.org (secure)]


I believe more that it is highly probable that no matter how it's labeled, there is a high risk of genetic contamination.

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