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furPete'sSake User ID: 52518743 United States 01/06/2014 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to timenolonger.wordpress.com] "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
Epic Beard Guy User ID: 26240425 United States 01/06/2014 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you really think Monsanto cares if it kills us? I believe that is the plan. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
train (OP) User ID: 50674722 United States 01/06/2014 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you really think Monsanto cares if it kills us? I believe that is the plan. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy I don't think they really care if they kill us or not, as long as they have total control of our food. I seriously doubt they, or their families, eat what they sow. When the law no longer protects you from the corrupt, but protects the corrupt from you--You know your nation is doomed. Ayn Rand |
furPete'sSake User ID: 52518743 United States 01/06/2014 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you really think Monsanto cares if it kills us? I believe that is the plan. Quoting: Epic Beard Guy I don't think they really care if they kill us or not, as long as they have total control of our food. I seriously doubt they, or their families, eat what they sow. yep, bill gates and others have a vast cache of natural seeds for when to start over "It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman) Calm seas do not a sailor make, Nor easy horses, a horseman. And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49719426 United States 01/06/2014 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Organic" can be up to 30 % GMO. Many "organic" foods contain canola oil which is GMO. Cross pollination has introduced GMO characteristics into many non GMO crops. Unless your food came out of some biosphere I don't know how anyone can eat GMO free. :bigbump: I asked AC and got no answer, so I'll ask you, too. Show me where it says cross-pollination pollutes organic corn up to 30%. Additionally, organic canola oil can be purchased. Saying it's all GMO is just ignorant, although it would be affected by pollination issues as well. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52544254 United Kingdom 01/06/2014 03:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Organic" can be up to 30 % GMO. Many "organic" foods contain canola oil which is GMO. Cross pollination has introduced GMO characteristics into many non GMO crops. Unless your food came out of some biosphere I don't know how anyone can eat GMO free. :bigbump: I asked AC and got no answer, so I'll ask you, too. Show me where it says cross-pollination pollutes organic corn up to 30%. Additionally, organic canola oil can be purchased. Saying it's all GMO is just ignorant, although it would be affected by pollination issues as well. The underlined is what I agree with, percentages are for you and the ac to argue over :) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49719426 United States 01/06/2014 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unless your food came out of some biosphere I don't know how anyone can eat GMO free. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31515251 The underlined is what I agree with, percentages are for you and the ac to argue over :) Hehe, thanks. Not sure about the regulations in the UK, I thought Europe in general wasn't as accepting of GMOs as the US is, but here, the regulations are pretty clear on what "organic" means: Foods labeled as “organic” are not allowed to contain any GMOs, according to USDA’s organic certification standards. [link to www.foodsafetynews.com] Here's the USDA standards, if you care to read them: [link to www.ams.usda.gov] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31515251 United States 01/06/2014 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Organic" can be up to 30 % GMO. Many "organic" foods contain canola oil which is GMO. Cross pollination has introduced GMO characteristics into many non GMO crops. Unless your food came out of some biosphere I don't know how anyone can eat GMO free. Link to the regulation that says that? Accepting a small cross-pollination percentage of risk in organic corn products (like canola) and buying organic is a better choice than Stouffer's Lasagna & Kraft Mac/Chz. Federal regulations state that organic foods must be 70% organic and that the remaining 30% must not be GM but several sites claim that GMs get into the 30%. From the wiki article How to Avoid Genetically Modified Foods: "Just because something says "organic" on it does not mean that it does not contain GM's. In fact, it can still contain up to 30% GMs, so be sure the label says 100% organic ... Do not consider a product 100% organic if it is only USDA Organic Certified." [link to m.wikihow.com] Canola is not a corn product, it comes from a genetically modified rapeseed plant (genetically modified to remove bitterness) and is exempt from FDA testing. It has a Generally Recognized As Safe (GRAS) exemption - thats what $50M will buy you from the FDA. Search canola on GLP. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49719426 United States 01/06/2014 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Organic" can be up to 30 % GMO. Many "organic" foods contain canola oil which is GMO. Cross pollination has introduced GMO characteristics into many non GMO crops. Unless your food came out of some biosphere I don't know how anyone can eat GMO free. Link to the regulation that says that? Accepting a small cross-pollination percentage of risk in organic corn products (like canola) and buying organic is a better choice than Stouffer's Lasagna & Kraft Mac/Chz. Federal regulations state that organic foods must be 70% organic and that the remaining 30% must not be GM but several sites claim that GMs get into the 30%. From the wiki article How to Avoid Genetically Modified Foods: "Just because something says "organic" on it does not mean that it does not contain GM's. In fact, it can still contain up to 30% GMs, so be sure the label says 100% organic ... Do not consider a product 100% organic if it is only USDA Organic Certified." [link to m.wikihow.com] Canola is not a corn product, it comes from a genetically modified rapeseed plant (genetically modified to remove bitterness) and is exempt from FDA testing. It has a Generally Recognized As Safe (GRAS) exemption - thats what $50M will buy you from the FDA. Search canola on GLP. Thanks for the info. I really thought canola was corn! I've only found one bottle of organic canola; it's real scarce, I'll just avoid it from now on. Most of the stuff I buy is raw (like a chicken breast or radish, etc...we cook a lot here), but I'll definitely be on the lookout for the 100% label if I don't see a Non-GMO stamp on it. Many thanks again! |
Adventus Domini User ID: 893880 United States 01/06/2014 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I doubt it, much of what you eat contains some form of gmo and it is not labeled, you don't know it's in there. So again, how to you guarantee that your food is GMO free? The only way I know of is to buy only food certified as "100% Organic". That's not an easy task. When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8277144 United States 01/06/2014 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I doubt it, much of what you eat contains some form of gmo and it is not labeled, you don't know it's in there. So again, how to you guarantee that your food is GMO free? The only way I know of is to buy only food certified as "100% Organic". That's not an easy task. [link to www.americanmeadows.com] Grow your own vegetables Organic Seeds 100% Certified Organic Seeds Safe Seed PledgeChoose from 20 varieties of Organic seeds for the best tasting, most sustainable vegetable choices. Why Organic Gardening & Seeds? You and the Environment. You: Discerning palates know - Organics truly taste better. They have been bred for flavor & adaptability, and not just for color, shape & size. The Environment: Conventional seeds are grown with the help of agricultural chemicals. Choose Organics to show your support for sustainably-produced crops and farming. [link to www.americanmeadows.com] January is a great time to get a seed catalog and plan a spring garden. It is, in every way, in the best interest of urban consumers to be surrounded by productive land, well farmed and well maintained by thriving farm families in thriving farm communities. Wendell Berry |
Stoned Goddess User ID: 51981944 United States 01/06/2014 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I doubt it, much of what you eat contains some form of gmo and it is not labeled, you don't know it's in there. So again, how to you guarantee that your food is GMO free? The only way I know of is to buy only food certified as "100% Organic". That's not an easy task. 1) I visit the farm my food comes from, and see what they feed their animals, they hare happy to educate people on their process. 2) The taste is distinctly different. 3) I live in a community where eating healthy and being "green" and all that stuff is a priority, it's not hard at all to find GMO free. There are farms all over. It's also equal or even cheaper in cost than regular meat, due to the demand. As I already said, there are ethical ma and pop farms, who want to provide the community with proper food. They don't get shut down like they do in the US, although every year TPTB try to shut down farmers markets due to bogus sanitary issues. But the will of the people does not let that happen. I'm done trying to convince you people that I can get GMO free. If you still don't believe me, fly to Vancouver BC and I'll fucking show you myself. What is it you all think I'm losing? (rhetorical question, I'm done responding here). :smokin1: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49719426 United States 01/06/2014 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the real deal on US Organic labeling. There are four categories: 100% Organic All organic ingredients Any processing aids used must be organic No non-organic ingredients are used USDA Seal allowed Must list organic certification agent Example: 100% Organic Cereal Organic At least 95% organic ingredients Remaining 5% can be non-organic allowed ingredients (i.e. vitamins, citric acid, baking powder) All agricultural ingredients must be organic unless not available USDA Seal allowed Must list certification agent Example: Organic Cereal Made with Organic Ingredients At least 70% organic ingredients Remaining 30% can be non-organic allowed ingredients (i.e. vitamins, citric acid, baking powder) OR non-organic agricultural ingredients USDA Seal prohibited Must list certification agent Example: Cereal made with organic oats, raisins, and dates Products with less than 70% Organic Ingredients Any level of organic ingredients No restrictions on remaining ingredients No certification claims can be made USDA Seal prohibited Only mention organic in ingredient listing Example: ingredients: organic oats, organic raisins Source: [link to tilth.org] There is additional certification that can be obtained above the four USDA categories if you're really twitchy about it, I guess, like the link above. Here's another source talking about the categories above: [link to www.nongmoshoppingguide.com] |
Adventus Domini User ID: 893880 United States 01/06/2014 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52567219 I doubt it, much of what you eat contains some form of gmo and it is not labeled, you don't know it's in there. So again, how to you guarantee that your food is GMO free? The only way I know of is to buy only food certified as "100% Organic". That's not an easy task. 1) I visit the farm my food comes from, and see what they feed their animals, they hare happy to educate people on their process. 2) The taste is distinctly different. 3) I live in a community where eating healthy and being "green" and all that stuff is a priority, it's not hard at all to find GMO free. There are farms all over. It's also equal or even cheaper in cost than regular meat, due to the demand. As I already said, there are ethical ma and pop farms, who want to provide the community with proper food. They don't get shut down like they do in the US, although every year TPTB try to shut down farmers markets due to bogus sanitary issues. But the will of the people does not let that happen. I'm done trying to convince you people that I can get GMO free. If you still don't believe me, fly to Vancouver BC and I'll fucking show you myself. What is it you all think I'm losing? (rhetorical question, I'm done responding here). The vast majority of work-a-day people require foods to be labeled in order to avoid GMOs. Without labeling, it is virtually impossible for MOST people. When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52580252 United Kingdom 01/06/2014 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I doubt it, much of what you eat contains some form of gmo and it is not labeled, you don't know it's in there. Ok, you asked for it, you people know very little about not much at all. [link to healthwyze.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52580252 United Kingdom 01/06/2014 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52567219 I doubt it, much of what you eat contains some form of gmo and it is not labeled, you don't know it's in there. So again, how to you guarantee that your food is GMO free? The only way I know of is to buy only food certified as "100% Organic". That's not an easy task. 1) I visit the farm my food comes from, and see what they feed their animals, they hare happy to educate people on their process. 2) The taste is distinctly different. 3) I live in a community where eating healthy and being "green" and all that stuff is a priority, it's not hard at all to find GMO free. There are farms all over. It's also equal or even cheaper in cost than regular meat, due to the demand. As I already said, there are ethical ma and pop farms, who want to provide the community with proper food. They don't get shut down like they do in the US, although every year TPTB try to shut down farmers markets due to bogus sanitary issues. But the will of the people does not let that happen. I'm done trying to convince you people that I can get GMO free. If you still don't believe me, fly to Vancouver BC and I'll fucking show you myself. What is it you all think I'm losing? (rhetorical question, I'm done responding here). And no one said you could not get 'it', most people get their food supply from a supermarket. How many people have easy access to pure organic farm produce... ...well you of course, don't know if you're trying to be smug or help, does all your food come from the farm, all of it, see link above, not that smug. |
Pole Cat User ID: 13215181 United States 01/06/2014 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | gmo does not have to be labeled: Mandatory labeling of genetically engineered (GE) foods in the United States has been proposed, but not enacted, at the national, state, and local levels. [link to www.ext.colostate.edu] but also if it is an open pollinated crop, produce can be contaminated even if the plants were "organic" or natural to begin with: Last year, Vetter's organic corn tested positive for genetic contamination. "We've been letting customers who buy in bulk know the situation," says Vetter. "Right now, most of it is still sitting in storage on the farm." Vetter and the Fitzgeralds are not alone. Organic farmers are having an increasingly difficult time preventing genetically modified organisms (GMOs) from migrating into their fields. [link to www.progressive.org (secure)] I believe more that it is highly probable that no matter how it's labeled, there is a high risk of genetic contamination. Last Edited by Pole Cat on 01/06/2014 09:15 PM |