If Global Warming is True... then what? (answer: Just accept it) | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52012483 United Kingdom 01/08/2014 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think, in some ways, you're absolutely right. We're now seeing methane releases on unprecedented scales, chaos in the weather systems, and everything is accelerating. Even if you don't accept that humans have induced this by forcing the feedback loops into an abnormal direction (CO2 release), the fact remains that we're going somewhere very unpleasant mighty fast. However, I don't think mitigation is enough, any longer. It's too late for that, too, and geoengineering solutions are a disaster waiting to happen (so many side effects that would be worse than the problem). We should be talking more about how we adapt to the changing world, and considering the worst case scenarios, because it's quite likely we'll be seeing some major signs of them in a decade or two. This will need some very unpopular decisions (how to deal with population control, abandonment of whole regions, mass migrations). Most importantly, I think towns need to be able to survive as independent societies, which is an utterly alien concept for most westerners today. I'm sure someone in power is discussing these things in private, but it's going to be interesting to see what comes of those discussions. Personally, I cannot see modern civilisation surviving what is to come, and I'm focusing on learning how to survive without technology and mass international travel. .. |
BM-2cVWK2FNijKiGFXKpAcTrtDsp User ID: 48163422 United States 01/08/2014 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By mitigating, I mean more along the lines of moving more inland, dealing with flooding and weather events, and also dealing with the idea of changing where the food will end up being grown. Long term, and not really related to global warming, but more related to reduction of fossil fuels, we will need to move back more to local based societies instead of large cities. The transport of food would require way too much energy to supply the cities... maybe. Maybe electric powered trains powered by renewable energy, but that would be a marvel of efficiency involving slow acceleration and near frictionless tracks with few if any stops. This would be evolved from nuclear power as that runs out. This all sounds pie in the sky though. We will have an energy crisis and these will not be futuristic solutions, but instead be the only solutions that barely scrape by. Most likely this will be coupled with mass hunger as food production is very fuel intensive. BM-2cVWK2FNijKiGFXKpAcTrtDspvP9YpP7Wp @ bitmessage.org |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52442366 United Kingdom 01/08/2014 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Get your terminology right... It's "Climate Change" now! And BTW the climate has always gone through warm spells and cold spells. Scotland was under 2 Kilometres of snow, which then melted. This was long before man started to rape the planet. |
troungshixam User ID: 48396148 United States 01/08/2014 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep, if it's true there's nothing to do but accept it. From the beginning the earth has warmed and the earth has cooled. Ever heard of the ice age? And when things warmed up, the only thing producing emissions was dinasour flatulence. If you somehow think (in spite of the evidence to the contrary) that the earth is again warming significantly, and you think the answer to that problem is to vote for leftist Democrats, then simplty stated, you are an idiot. troungshixam |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2226485 United States 01/08/2014 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And BTW the climate has always gone through warm spells and cold spells. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52442366 That's why weather is pronounced "whether" you don't know whether or not if it's going to rain you don't know whether or not if it's going to be cold you don't know whether or not if the wind will blow |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52114522 United States 01/08/2014 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it VERY hard to believe that People are Stupid enough to believe in Global Warming.. Alot of records were broken this week.. Many 200 + years old records..Right?? Sooooo Where was Global Warming all those Years ago????? WAS NO GLOBAL WARMING AND THERE IS NO GLOBAL WARMING NOW!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3793971 United States 01/08/2014 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Unfortunately, no. There won't be much water. It's evaporating faster. I still have my doubts that global warming is manmade. People look at the winter months and think global warming is all a fabrication, but it's going to get worse. We have extreme temperatures now and the sun....If what I've seen happens, this planet will be uninhabitable. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52012483 United Kingdom 01/08/2014 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find it VERY hard to believe that People are Stupid enough to believe in Global Warming.. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52114522 Alot of records were broken this week.. Many 200 + years old records..Right?? Sooooo Where was Global Warming all those Years ago????? WAS NO GLOBAL WARMING AND THERE IS NO GLOBAL WARMING NOW!!! Have you taken a look at what is happening outside North America recently? And have you wondered why the polar vortex has once again vacated the pole? You might want to look into things in a lot more detail before labelling people stupid. A lot of what we see now was being predicted when I was an undergrad studying geology, twenty years ago. It's just happening faster than people expected. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52012483 United Kingdom 01/08/2014 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By mitigating, I mean more along the lines of moving more inland, dealing with flooding and weather events, and also dealing with the idea of changing where the food will end up being grown. Quoting: BM-2cVWK2FNijKiGFXKpAcTrtDsp 48163422 Long term, and not really related to global warming, but more related to reduction of fossil fuels, we will need to move back more to local based societies instead of large cities. The transport of food would require way too much energy to supply the cities... maybe. Maybe electric powered trains powered by renewable energy, but that would be a marvel of efficiency involving slow acceleration and near frictionless tracks with few if any stops. This would be evolved from nuclear power as that runs out. This all sounds pie in the sky though. We will have an energy crisis and these will not be futuristic solutions, but instead be the only solutions that barely scrape by. Most likely this will be coupled with mass hunger as food production is very fuel intensive. BM-2cVWK2FNijKiGFXKpAcTrtDspvP9YpP7Wp @ bitmessage.org In that case, I've got to agree. I've always been torn between whether the solution is more technology (done properly and sustainably) or less (living more in harmony with nature). We'll probably end up being forced down one route or the other in due course... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52012483 United Kingdom 01/08/2014 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes indeed. Usually, these changes have been geologically gradual, and with moderating feedbacks to make sure that things don't get out of hand. The last time the planet followed this particular path (although not so abruptly), 95% of species died. Just because a thing has happened before, doesn't make it good. At the Permo-Triassic boundary it seems to have been vast volcanic eruptions (flood basalts) that were to blame. This time, it looks like it's us. |
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