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If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?

 
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
The economy exists to serve the people, not the other way round. The poor contribute to the economy every time they buy anything, just like everyone else.
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If you think money brought you into being, and money justifies that being, then all you are really saying, is that your mother was a whore...
 Quoting: The Impaler


Money exists only in our heads. It's just an accounting tool to keep track of goods, services and labor.
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And food only exists on the shelf, and it is an accounting tool used to keep track of calorie expenditure and usefulness to the system.

By the measure you eat, you shall be judged.
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
Hitler wasnt fascist
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putin
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No man is an Island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the Continent, a part of the main; ... any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankind...
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
Are you judging your usefulness by raising offspring? Well then your offspring that go against your wishes will count against you.

Do you judge your usefulness by buying your own food? Well people who don't work eight hours per day get by on a dollar sandwich pretty easily.

Do you judge yourself worthy by being able to help those with less money live at a standard closer to yours? You will be judged by the standard you can exist at when your own resources are depleted.

Very simple.
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
military-american parasites and their families take by force near a trillion dollars a year from its host population - and much more from nations too poor to count. conclusion: the op is a military-american jergov
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
Left, right paradigm is an illusion of choice you guys are imprisoned by, those are your two choices but they aren't much different. Hitler was considered to be on the right, yet his party had socialist in it's name.

Think laterally, think outside the box.
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We are pretending rich people have an advantage for the sake of ego at the moment, will handle egos later...
 Quoting: The Impaler




Not a matter of being rich versus poor. Most of us will never be "rich" in the world's material things...the important issue is to be RESPONSIBLE, ACCOUNTABLE, PRODUCTIVE AND TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN RESPONSIBILITIES...not to be leeches off other people...that is robbery.
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None are bigger leeches than the rich, who most likely acquired their riches off exploiting the working class. The working class actually produces the wealth, the rich just leech off it. We are leeching off mother earth, mother earth is concious, the rich though take more than the poor. The wealthy need to be more humble and have more respect for and appreciation for the actual creators of wealth...
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
I don't get it.

Poor people hardly earn enough in their lifetimes to contribute to consumerist economy, let alone government taxes.

They sure don't create jobs.

And yet the government spends billions to keep millions of people alive on welfare.

Why keep them alive in misery for the rest of their lives?

Wouldnt it be more humane if we just eliminated the poor from the face of the earth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52248045



You've really answered your own question without realising it OP.

I've highlighted the parts of what you're really saying.

What does this remind you of?

Where we spend on something that (apparently) gives no return, yet we keep them in miserable squalid conditions, only then to engage in a massive cull in what's considered a 'humane' manner?

That's right...i know you're with me now..:-)

Farming...cattle....harvesting.

The end result of farming cattle is to consume their flesh.

The end result of mass famine and unemplyment is the harvesting of personal dignity and consumption of people's power.

It's all farming and harvesting.

There's no luxury in it for those being farmed - whether people or cows.

If everyone on earth was unemployed there would still be this system - just on a mass scale.
Kept on the breadline...barely surviving, certainly not thriving.

Those of us who are employed unfortunately are in no better situation (unless mega elite rich!)- on the face of it seems like a different position from the poor but the employed are harvested and farmed for similar gain.

Whether employed or unemployed, global poli-tricks is running one helluva successful farm.
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Oh, leeches eh.

Like being so spiritually bankrupt, you espouse someone else's life of selflessness as a reason to only be moderately selfless yourself?
 Quoting: The Impaler




Selflessness....you make no sense.
To leech off others is pure selfishness and robbery.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52708566


Have you read the parable about Lazarus the leech and the rich man?

“Then the King will turn to those on the left and say, ‘Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons. For I was hungry, and you didn’t feed me. I was thirsty, and you didn’t give me a drink. I was a stranger, and you didn’t invite me into your home. I was naked, and you didn’t give me clothing. I was sick and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’
“Then they will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?’
“And he will answer, ‘I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.’ “And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life.” Matthew 25:41-46
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I know that story, probably better than you. My point is that the able bodied, those who are capable, SHOULD be responsible for themselves. There are people in need of help, and we are to help those....but those who are ABLE are to be responsible, productive and accountable and not leech off others. As I have repeatedly said, take the bible as a whole...don't just jerk out a verse here and there without understanding the context with which it was given.
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The title of this tread is repugnant, that´s what I'm saying. And yes, some systems indeed create a welfare dependency that demoralizes and kills the incentive of being a productive citizen, but the dependent are as much victims and prisoners of the system.

Bottom line is that some Christian hypocrites tries to reconcile Jesus with Ayn Rand, or tries to reconcile their hate for The Other with the teachings of Jesus.

"Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. Ezekiel 16:49
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
military-american parasites and their families take by force near a trillion dollars a year from its host population - and much more from nations too poor to count. conclusion: the op is a military-american jergov
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They are also your best hope for turning things around.

As when they do spend, it tends to be on things that actually bring benefits to others too.
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
Apparently the gentlemen that found error in the word of God believes not the message Jesus spoke to his disciples which holds true to the end of the age. The rich young ruler is a lesson we are all to adhere to even though you say it was for that young man only......lets see what Jesus says about that shall we?

Matthew 19:23

Then Jesus said unto his disciples, verily i say unto you, that a rich man shall hardly enter into the Kingdom of Heaven.

So from what you are saying is the rich young ruler was the ONLY reference Jesus was making concerning the Rich? Maybe we need to read further on....
Matthew 19:27

Then Answered Peter, and said unto Him, behold, we have FORSAKEN ALL and followed thee: what shall we have therefore?

Again you said the disciples held onto their wealth......looks like your wrong again.

Matthew 19-29-30

And EVERYONE that hath forsaken houses, or brethern, or sisters, or father or mother, or wife or children shall receive an hundredfold and shall inherit everlasting life.

Wow i found more information that says forsake all and follow God.....well maybe you are an exception to the word of God because like the rich young ruler you are upset to let it go and follow Jesus.


Now after tearing your argument down about your opinion on how the scripture should read and what it really says. You can either continue to deny Christ and his words or pick-up your cross and follow him to eternal life.

Matthew 7:14

Because strait is the gate and narrow is the way which leadeth unto life and FEW be there that find it.
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
I don't get it.

Poor people hardly earn enough in their lifetimes to contribute to consumerist economy, let alone government taxes.

They sure don't create jobs.

And yet the government spends billions to keep millions of people alive on welfare.

Why keep them alive in misery for the rest of their lives?

Wouldnt it be more humane if we just eliminated the poor from the face of the earth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52248045


People aren't here on Earth just to spend money. Do you think that's all life is, how much money and materiel things you can buy? Better go on a Quest to find out the real meaning of life
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

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Watch and learn......

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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
military-american parasites and their families take by force near a trillion dollars a year from its host population - and much more from nations too poor to count. conclusion: the op is a military-american jergov
 Quoting: fuck a star 20910660


They are also your best hope for turning things around.

As when they do spend, it tends to be on things that actually bring benefits to others too.
 Quoting: The Impaler



your co loves you for sure but u.s. armed forces thieved the nation into bankruptcy and have murdered and continue to murder its influential opponents on soil both foreign and domestic without cause or warrant. hell is where you and yours belong
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
military-american parasites and their families take by force near a trillion dollars a year from its host population - and much more from nations too poor to count. conclusion: the op is a military-american jergov
 Quoting: fuck a star 20910660


They are also your best hope for turning things around.

As when they do spend, it tends to be on things that actually bring benefits to others too.
 Quoting: The Impaler



your co loves you for sure but u.s. armed forces thieved the nation into bankruptcy and have murdered and continue to murder its influential opponents on soil both foreign and domestic without cause or warrant. hell is where you and yours belong
 Quoting: fuck a star 20910660


Hell is what the people required. When the rest of the world is Hell, you must be near God in Heaven right?

So, fair play dictates that Heaven falls and everyone gets all the Hell they can handle.

Hell, one black military project sticks TRILLIONS of dollars into the world economy. The USA pretty much exists to keep these things afloat. Why do you think we offshore and outsource all the grunt work.

We don't have bigger fish to fry, we have a goddamn whale.
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
on the flipside...

what about the rich corporations that avoid paying taxes, put their monies in off-shore accounts, and ship jobs overseas.

what do they "contribute to the economy" besides cheap toxic Chinese products?

shouldn't they be the first in line to your death camps?
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they are parasites that do not understand symbiosis. In their greed they butcher the cow that feeds them. Greed is another character flaw, it is an attribute of narcissism.

they butcher the cow that feeds them
sorry
left out milk

Last Edited by Kirk on 01/09/2014 06:09 PM
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
military-american parasites and their families take by force near a trillion dollars a year from its host population - and much more from nations too poor to count. conclusion: the op is a military-american jergov
 Quoting: fuck a star 20910660


They are also your best hope for turning things around.

As when they do spend, it tends to be on things that actually bring benefits to others too.
 Quoting: The Impaler



your co loves you for sure but u.s. armed forces thieved the nation into bankruptcy and have murdered and continue to murder its influential opponents on soil both foreign and domestic without cause or warrant. hell is where you and yours belong
 Quoting: fuck a star 20910660


Hell is what the people required. When the rest of the world is Hell, you must be near God in Heaven right?

So, fair play dictates that Heaven falls and everyone gets all the Hell they can handle.

Hell, one black military project sticks TRILLIONS of dollars into the world economy. The USA pretty much exists to keep these things afloat. Why do you think we offshore and outsource all the grunt work.

We don't have bigger fish to fry, we have a goddamn whale.
 Quoting: The Impaler


Instead of sound council they would do what they wilt. Lovers of self.
Worry is a misuse of the imagination.
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
Because....................as human beings we are only as strong as our weakest link.
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
The economy exists to serve the people, not the other way round. The poor contribute to the economy every time they buy anything, just like everyone else.
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no, the poor get money from the government that robs the taxpayers and pays them with their own money = net loss
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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Brief is a troll, why does anyone even pay attention to him, obviously he is doing it to get a reaction out of people.
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of course, so why even post this? Ignore me please, my message is not for you.
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Oh, silly me! and throughout this thread, I thought it was Oyster and Impaler who are the trolls! Black is white, up is down in this world!
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I have many stalkers and trolls, which means I speak the truth. If I conformed to your agenda then I would be overlooked.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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pay us "poor people" more money and then will spend more money...
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So you want more of my money so that you can spend it in my store for a net loss? Fuck off!
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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I see no use for poor people who get any gov't help with the taxpayers money. Dependence breeds complacency.
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I see no use for poor people who get any gov't help with the taxpayers money. Dependence breeds complacency.
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if you are employed by the government, in the form of welfare, then voting is a conflict of interest.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
I don't get it.

Poor people hardly earn enough in their lifetimes to contribute to consumerist economy, let alone government taxes.

They sure don't create jobs.

And yet the government spends billions to keep millions of people alive on welfare.

Why keep them alive in misery for the rest of their lives?

Wouldnt it be more humane if we just eliminated the poor from the face of the earth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52248045



I vote to eliminate the people that think like you , its what creates poor people in the first place ...

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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
Let it start this way .....

Rich people had outsourced their jobs outside wile creating
welfare states ...

that at a given moment they will shut down & kill everyone and enslave the rest ....

they are the ones selling drugs , porno and do manipulation
of masses by religion ..

we need a new French revolution and execute verming like you inside nuclear reactors so their souls cant reincarnate back to fuck again the people repeating the same shit over & over ..
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
The working poor benefit us by cleaning the toilets and bring us coffee, but those on welfare need a needle in the arm and the housing projects need to be demolished.
 Quoting: BRIEF


I remember the first time I saw public housing in the early 80s.
GovCo built a really nice neighborhood for these people. Within a year, at least half of the units had boarded windows.
Was amazing to drive by every few weeks and see the deterioration.
 Quoting: Zetetic


Same here. Subsidized houseing is always trashed. If you have affordable rental even you have to be careful of whom you rent to and we do not even have a Black Culture here.

People do not treat things with respect when they do not own them. They don't care. Just wreck shit.

I have a secondary suite on my place. Haven't rented it in mnths. I only charge 600mnth so when I run the ads all I get is people on Welfare and Pensions of some type cause most recieve only about 820.00 out here. By the time they pay their rent they have no money left over and then they are looking to borrow off you. Mooch and steal anything for the pawn shop.

People that are perpetual state of need NEVER have enough ever. They take take take what they can get their hands on.

Most I find are their by choice. Most of these people could be out working but chose not to. Too hard to work. Take the check and then take from everybody else.
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Brief is a troll, why does anyone even pay attention to him, obviously he is doing it to get a reaction out of people.
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of course, so why even post this? Ignore me please, my message is not for you.
 Quoting: BRIEF




Oh, silly me! and throughout this thread, I thought it was Oyster and Impaler who are the trolls! Black is white, up is down in this world!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52708566


I have many stalkers and trolls, which means I speak the truth. If I conformed to your agenda then I would be overlooked.
 Quoting: BRIEF


1rof1

Step back, the world does not revolve around you. Oh by the way your F-U pm message was stupid. You need to have other interests. Get a life and stop spewing hate.pennywise
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To vote for demoncrats.
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
I don't get it.

Poor people hardly earn enough in their lifetimes to contribute to consumerist economy, let alone government taxes.

They sure don't create jobs.

And yet the government spends billions to keep millions of people alive on welfare.

Why keep them alive in misery for the rest of their lives?

Wouldnt it be more humane if we just eliminated the poor from the face of the earth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52248045


I don't care if they are poor or rich. I just don't want to pay for them to sit around on my dime pooping out the next generation of leeches to do the exact same thing.

Stop feeding them and they will work for their food.
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Because we are human.
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Because you could poor someday. And because many of the people in power have sympathy.

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