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If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?

 
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Luke 12:15 ESV

And he said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.”


1 Timothy 6:9 ESV

But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction.
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I don't get it.

Poor people hardly earn enough in their lifetimes to contribute to consumerist economy, let alone government taxes.

They sure don't create jobs.

And yet the government spends billions to keep millions of people alive on welfare.

Why keep them alive in misery for the rest of their lives?

Wouldnt it be more humane if we just eliminated the poor from the face of the earth?
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The reason the government spends that money is basically buying votes. I don't think poor people should be killed, but we shouldn't spend soo much on these welfare programs. The poverty level is the same now as it was back when they started these programs. The war on poverty is a farce.

If the poverty level remains the same, maybe even higher today, why to they continue? To buy votes.

Churches and charities can do far more, with far less than the government ever could/would.
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If we did not have the welfare programs, the poor would work!

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I don't get it.

Poor people hardly earn enough in their lifetimes to contribute to consumerist economy, let alone government taxes.

They sure don't create jobs.

And yet the government spends billions to keep millions of people alive on welfare.

Why keep them alive in misery for the rest of their lives?

Wouldnt it be more humane if we just eliminated the poor from the face of the earth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52248045


The reason the government spends that money is basically buying votes. I don't think poor people should be killed, but we shouldn't spend soo much on these welfare programs. The poverty level is the same now as it was back when they started these programs. The war on poverty is a farce.

If the poverty level remains the same, maybe even higher today, why to they continue? To buy votes.

Churches and charities can do far more, with far less than the government ever could/would.
 Quoting: *Evan


If we did not have the welfare programs, the poor would work!


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I agree to an extent. There will always be those who choose not to work, and find someone or something to support them. But I agree welfare programs do keep some from looking for work.
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You don't think I worked my ass off for what I have?
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I didn't say you didn't work hard for what you have. But that gives you no right to say that the poor that doesn't serve your interest need to have a needle put in their arm.
Good luck with that mentality. Lets see how far that gets you when your in the ground.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45882499


LOL, you see me as greedy. No, I have built my wealth for my children...I have raised them right and the older two 20 and 17 are following my example by hard work, saving and investing...the 13 year old can't wait to begin his journey of building wealth...I raised no deadbeats
 Quoting: BRIEF


Your time is short here on the planet, one should be preparing for after death, not by pursuing material wealth here on earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51919055




God does want us to pursue enough material wealth to take care of our own, at the very least. We are to provide for our families, when we call ourselves Christian. Anyone who does not pay their bills and manage their money have some kind of character and spiritual deficiency. We are to be good steward of our finances. God says so. I have noticed that those who cannot manage their finances have extreme spiritual problems. The Bible illustrates time after time that those who cannot handle their sexual and financial lives are in deep spiritual trouble, not to mention the emotional, financial and physical troubles.
God wants us to be holy-----that means whole. Having enough finances to take care of ourselves and our loves ones is absolutely one of the foremost signs of spiritual health.
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And to Brief.
You sir are a card carrying member of the tard nation.
You talk so much BS. You think you are a good and righteous
american--- I have mine so get the hell out of my way-----
Enjoy your bounty.......while you can.
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:hemad:




You don't think I worked my ass off for what I have?
 Quoting: BRIEF


No Brief, I don't think you work at all. I think you are a bitter angry old fart on retirement or disability sitting in front of his computer rage typing on conspiracy forums because you have nothing better to do.
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I didn't say you didn't work hard for what you have. But that gives you no right to say that the poor that doesn't serve your interest need to have a needle put in their arm.
Good luck with that mentality. Lets see how far that gets you when your in the ground.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45882499


LOL, you see me as greedy. No, I have built my wealth for my children...I have raised them right and the older two 20 and 17 are following my example by hard work, saving and investing...the 13 year old can't wait to begin his journey of building wealth...I raised no deadbeats
 Quoting: BRIEF


Your time is short here on the planet, one should be preparing for after death, not by pursuing material wealth here on earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51919055




God does want us to pursue enough material wealth to take care of our own, at the very least. We are to provide for our families, when we call ourselves Christian. Anyone who does not pay their bills and manage their money have some kind of character and spiritual deficiency. We are to be good steward of our finances. God says so. I have noticed that those who cannot manage their finances have extreme spiritual problems. The Bible illustrates time after time that those who cannot handle their sexual and financial lives are in deep spiritual trouble, not to mention the emotional, financial and physical troubles.
God wants us to be holy-----that means whole. Having enough finances to take care of ourselves and our loves ones is absolutely one of the foremost signs of spiritual health.
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God wants us to all drive new SUV's. What a stooge......
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Re: If poor people don't contribute to the economy at all, why do we still keep them alive?
I don't get it.

Poor people hardly earn enough in their lifetimes to contribute to consumerist economy, let alone government taxes.

They sure don't create jobs.

And yet the government spends billions to keep millions of people alive on welfare.

Why keep them alive in misery for the rest of their lives?

Wouldnt it be more humane if we just eliminated the poor from the face of the earth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52248045


The reason the government spends that money is basically buying votes. I don't think poor people should be killed, but we shouldn't spend soo much on these welfare programs. The poverty level is the same now as it was back when they started these programs. The war on poverty is a farce.

If the poverty level remains the same, maybe even higher today, why to they continue? To buy votes.

Churches and charities can do far more, with far less than the government ever could/would.
 Quoting: *Evan


If we did not have the welfare programs, the poor would work!


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52708566


I agree to an extent. There will always be those who choose not to work, and find someone or something to support them. But I agree welfare programs do keep some from looking for work.
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Why don't trust funders work? Who supports them?
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LOL, you see me as greedy. No, I have built my wealth for my children...I have raised them right and the older two 20 and 17 are following my example by hard work, saving and investing...the 13 year old can't wait to begin his journey of building wealth...I raised no deadbeats
 Quoting: BRIEF


Your time is short here on the planet, one should be preparing for after death, not by pursuing material wealth here on earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51919055




God does want us to pursue enough material wealth to take care of our own, at the very least. We are to provide for our families, when we call ourselves Christian. Anyone who does not pay their bills and manage their money have some kind of character and spiritual deficiency. We are to be good steward of our finances. God says so. I have noticed that those who cannot manage their finances have extreme spiritual problems. The Bible illustrates time after time that those who cannot handle their sexual and financial lives are in deep spiritual trouble, not to mention the emotional, financial and physical troubles.
God wants us to be holy-----that means whole. Having enough finances to take care of ourselves and our loves ones is absolutely one of the foremost signs of spiritual health.
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God wants us to all drive new SUV's. What a stooge......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51919055


Hmmm I don't see anywhere in that post where he says God says that.

Nice strawman argument.

You fail
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Why don't trust funders work? Who supports them?
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uuuuhhhhh their families do............
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Your time is short here on the planet, one should be preparing for after death, not by pursuing material wealth here on earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51919055




God does want us to pursue enough material wealth to take care of our own, at the very least. We are to provide for our families, when we call ourselves Christian. Anyone who does not pay their bills and manage their money have some kind of character and spiritual deficiency. We are to be good steward of our finances. God says so. I have noticed that those who cannot manage their finances have extreme spiritual problems. The Bible illustrates time after time that those who cannot handle their sexual and financial lives are in deep spiritual trouble, not to mention the emotional, financial and physical troubles.
God wants us to be holy-----that means whole. Having enough finances to take care of ourselves and our loves ones is absolutely one of the foremost signs of spiritual health.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52708566


God wants us to all drive new SUV's. What a stooge......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51919055


Hmmm I don't see anywhere in that post where he says God says that.

Nice strawman argument.

You fail
 Quoting: *Evan


Matthew 6:24 ESV

No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.
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I'm poor and I ensure the freight gets to where your petty ass shops for convenience so suck it easy punk
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God does want us to pursue enough material wealth to take care of our own, at the very least. We are to provide for our families, when we call ourselves Christian. Anyone who does not pay their bills and manage their money have some kind of character and spiritual deficiency. We are to be good steward of our finances. God says so. I have noticed that those who cannot manage their finances have extreme spiritual problems. The Bible illustrates time after time that those who cannot handle their sexual and financial lives are in deep spiritual trouble, not to mention the emotional, financial and physical troubles.
God wants us to be holy-----that means whole. Having enough finances to take care of ourselves and our loves ones is absolutely one of the foremost signs of spiritual health.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52708566


God wants us to all drive new SUV's. What a stooge......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51919055


Hmmm I don't see anywhere in that post where he says God says that.

Nice strawman argument.

You fail
 Quoting: *Evan


Matthew 6:24 ESV

No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51919055


Again, the poster you quoted never said God wanted everyone to drive an suv, that was made up b.s

As I said a strawman argument.

That poster also never said we should worship money, but that we need to take care of our own.

Nice try, again.
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Luke 12:15 ESV

And he said to them, “Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.”


1 Timothy 6:9 ESV

But those who desire to be rich fall into temptation, into a snare, into many senseless and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction.

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1 Timothy 5:8 If anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
and 9 Let a widow be put on the list only if she is not less than 60 years old, having been the wife of one man....etc.. etc.
But REFUSE to put younger widos on the list......... they learn to be idle.


2 Thess 3:10 If any man (referes to women also) will not work, neither let him eat....

Many, many verses instruct us to work to support ourselves and our loved ones.
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I don't get it.

Poor people hardly earn enough in their lifetimes to contribute to consumerist economy, let alone government taxes.

They sure don't create jobs.

And yet the government spends billions to keep millions of people alive on welfare.

Why keep them alive in misery for the rest of their lives?

Wouldnt it be more humane if we just eliminated the poor from the face of the earth?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52248045


The reason the government spends that money is basically buying votes. I don't think poor people should be killed, but we shouldn't spend soo much on these welfare programs. The poverty level is the same now as it was back when they started these programs. The war on poverty is a farce.

If the poverty level remains the same, maybe even higher today, why to they continue? To buy votes.

Churches and charities can do far more, with far less than the government ever could/would.
 Quoting: *Evan


If we did not have the welfare programs, the poor would work!


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52708566




One of the most Biblical churches I know of has a principle that, when needy come calling with their hand out, if that person is able bodied, they offer payment for work around the church or payment for work at or around the homes of the church's disabled/ elderly. The great majority of the beggars who come calling refuse to do the work and go away empty-handed.
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You don't think I worked my ass off for what I have?
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I didn't say you didn't work hard for what you have. But that gives you no right to say that the poor that doesn't serve your interest need to have a needle put in their arm.
Good luck with that mentality. Lets see how far that gets you when your in the ground.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45882499


LOL, you see me as greedy. No, I have built my wealth for my children...I have raised them right and the older two 20 and 17 are following my example by hard work, saving and investing...the 13 year old can't wait to begin his journey of building wealth...I raised no deadbeats
 Quoting: BRIEF


Your time is short here on the planet, one should be preparing for after death, not by pursuing material wealth here on earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51919055


I'm prepared. What you don't understand, is that while on Earth, we have a moral obligation to become as wealthy as possible so that we are in a position to help others when they are deserving of our help.

It's a sin to help those that do not deserve help...you don't help a thief by giving him assistance to rob someone, for example.

Who can do more good for someone in need: a needy desperate broke person, or a wealthy person that takes care of his family and is responsible in his life to the point that he's in a position to give to those deserving of his charity?
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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And to Brief.
You sir are a card carrying member of the tard nation.
You talk so much BS. You think you are a good and righteous
american--- I have mine so get the hell out of my way-----
Enjoy your bounty.......while you can.
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:hemad:




You don't think I worked my ass off for what I have?
 Quoting: BRIEF


No Brief, I don't think you work at all. I think you are a bitter angry old fart on retirement or disability sitting in front of his computer rage typing on conspiracy forums because you have nothing better to do.
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You must be new to GLP. I have noticed in Brief's posts that he is a responsible, hard working young man with 3 boys he is bringing up to be accountable, responsible human beings. You need to have your information correct before you accuse people. GLP seems to be his recreation and some of his entertainment, but that doesn't preclude that he has a successful working business.
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And to Brief.
You sir are a card carrying member of the tard nation.
You talk so much BS. You think you are a good and righteous
american--- I have mine so get the hell out of my way-----
Enjoy your bounty.......while you can.
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hemad




You don't think I worked my ass off for what I have?
 Quoting: BRIEF


No Brief, I don't think you work at all. I think you are a bitter angry old fart on retirement or disability sitting in front of his computer rage typing on conspiracy forums because you have nothing better to do.
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LOL, fail!


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God does want us to pursue enough material wealth to take care of our own, at the very least. We are to provide for our families, when we call ourselves Christian. Anyone who does not pay their bills and manage their money have some kind of character and spiritual deficiency. We are to be good steward of our finances. God says so. I have noticed that those who cannot manage their finances have extreme spiritual problems. The Bible illustrates time after time that those who cannot handle their sexual and financial lives are in deep spiritual trouble, not to mention the emotional, financial and physical troubles.
God wants us to be holy-----that means whole. Having enough finances to take care of ourselves and our loves ones is absolutely one of the foremost signs of spiritual health.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52708566


God wants us to all drive new SUV's. What a stooge......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51919055


Hmmm I don't see anywhere in that post where he says God says that.

Nice strawman argument.

You fail
 Quoting: *Evan


Matthew 6:24 ESV

No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51919055


The money belongs to God, and I am simply the manager of it for his sake.
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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God wants you to make risky investments. God told me to tell you this khufu
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LOL, you see me as greedy. No, I have built my wealth for my children...I have raised them right and the older two 20 and 17 are following my example by hard work, saving and investing...the 13 year old can't wait to begin his journey of building wealth...I raised no deadbeats
 Quoting: BRIEF


Your time is short here on the planet, one should be preparing for after death, not by pursuing material wealth here on earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51919055




God does want us to pursue enough material wealth to take care of our own, at the very least. We are to provide for our families, when we call ourselves Christian. Anyone who does not pay their bills and manage their money have some kind of character and spiritual deficiency. We are to be good steward of our finances. God says so. I have noticed that those who cannot manage their finances have extreme spiritual problems. The Bible illustrates time after time that those who cannot handle their sexual and financial lives are in deep spiritual trouble, not to mention the emotional, financial and physical troubles.
God wants us to be holy-----that means whole. Having enough finances to take care of ourselves and our loves ones is absolutely one of the foremost signs of spiritual health.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52708566


God wants us to all drive new SUV's. What a stooge......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51919055




God does not CARE what we drive, or whether we drive anything.
He says to be holy. That means whole. Being whole means being spiritually, financially responsible, emotionally healthy .... to be complete. People who are broke (because they are not responsible and productive) are never whole. Wake up!
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God wants you to make risky investments. God told me to tell you this khufu
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God wants us to be good stewards.
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The money belongs to God, and I am simply the manager of it for his sake.
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managing money for God's sake, raising hybrid babies for your aliens friends, posting on GLP 75,000 times in 3 years....

you are a busy man
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The money belongs to God, and I am simply the manager of it for his sake.
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managing money for God's sake, raising hybrid babies for your aliens friends, posting on GLP 75,000 times in 3 years....

you are a busy man
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You have no idea, you could never keep up...maybe it's all the dope you smoke that's causing you to be retarded and lazy...something to consider.
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The money belongs to God, and I am simply the manager of it for his sake.
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managing money for God's sake, raising hybrid babies for your aliens friends, posting on GLP 75,000 times in 3 years....

you are a busy man
 Quoting: Oyster


You have no idea, you could never keep up...maybe it's all the dope you smoke that's causing you to be retarded and lazy...something to consider.
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nah i think i do have a pretty good idea

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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The money belongs to God, and I am simply the manager of it for his sake.
 Quoting: BRIEF


managing money for God's sake, raising hybrid babies for your aliens friends, posting on GLP 75,000 times in 3 years....

you are a busy man
 Quoting: Oyster


You have no idea, you could never keep up...maybe it's all the dope you smoke that's causing you to be retarded and lazy...something to consider.
 Quoting: BRIEF


nah i think i do have a pretty good idea

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Oyster


Sorry to hear that, do you take prescription medication for that or just smoke dope to hide from your problems?
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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You're all fucked up in the head.
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^^this
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managing money for God's sake, raising hybrid babies for your aliens friends, posting on GLP 75,000 times in 3 years....

you are a busy man
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You have no idea, you could never keep up...maybe it's all the dope you smoke that's causing you to be retarded and lazy...something to consider.
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nah i think i do have a pretty good idea

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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Sorry to hear that, do you take prescription medication for that or just smoke dope to hide from your problems?
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is that all you got?

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God wants you to make risky investments. God told me to tell you this khufu
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God wants us to be good stewards.
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Khufu needed to hear that, but I believe you're correct
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Poor had contributes and invented more than any rich bastard alive and it is indee the rich who milked the poor dead or alive.

Let see if the rich bastard could invented that free energy which should had been invented with NASA.

Cheapstake.
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You have no idea, you could never keep up...maybe it's all the dope you smoke that's causing you to be retarded and lazy...something to consider.
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nah i think i do have a pretty good idea

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 Quoting: Oyster


Sorry to hear that, do you take prescription medication for that or just smoke dope to hide from your problems?
 Quoting: BRIEF


is that all you got?

brokenrecord
 Quoting: Oyster


why, what else do you need?
With freedom comes responsibility.

Heterosexual pride!

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