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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49398974 United States 01/09/2014 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Left, right paradigm is an illusion of choice you guys are imprisoned by, those are your two choices but they aren't much different. Hitler was considered to be on the right, yet his party had socialist in it's name. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52327901 Think laterally, think outside the box. We are pretending rich people have an advantage for the sake of ego at the moment, will handle egos later... |
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BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 01/09/2014 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, he didn't manage HIS OWN wealth. IF he had dumped it he could have had God's wealth too. Jesus laid down his life because he could take it up again, if the wealthy are so smart and deserve what they have, then they should have no problem getting it all back. That's right, I give my wealth away all the time and it keeps coming back... just as long as the arent brown or black I didn't ask color the year I gave to the girl with leukemia, although I don't recall you participating in that fund raiser either... Nor did I ask color when I bought a water heater for a Canadian GLP'er that same Christmas, and still didn't see you around to help. I can give more examples if you like. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Oyster User ID: 18401048 United States 01/09/2014 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: The Impaler No, he didn't manage HIS OWN wealth. IF he had dumped it he could have had God's wealth too. Jesus laid down his life because he could take it up again, if the wealthy are so smart and deserve what they have, then they should have no problem getting it all back. That's right, I give my wealth away all the time and it keeps coming back... just as long as the arent brown or black I didn't ask color the year I gave to the girl with leukemia, although I don't recall you participating in that fund raiser either... Nor did I ask color when I bought a water heater for a Canadian GLP'er that same Christmas, and still didn't see you around to help. I can give more examples if you like. yeah man shoot us those links i'll wait. (and dont pretend that you dont have a disdain for colored folks....this isnt our first day here...) Last Edited by Oyster on 01/09/2014 03:57 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52708566 United States 01/09/2014 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would Brief be a Christian, Jesus was actually pretty wealthy, how can a wealthy righteous person die... Quoting: The Impaler This post makes no sense at all. Nevertheless, Jesus owns the world and everything in it--He came to earth for the purpose of dying for you and me, to cover our sins when we make Him Lord of our life....when we are "sold out" for Him. He will soon return as King of King and Lord of Lords...He created the universe and owns all of creation. Whether Brief is a Christian or not, he sounds like a responsible productive person who carries his weight. that is a form of righteousness....and a righteous man is far closer to the kingdom of God than an unrighteous one. If you had any meaning to your question, it eludes me, but Jesus set aside His wealth for His eartly sojourn...He was a lowly carpenter, who could have owned the riches of the world in His human form....since everything belongs to Him anyway. He set that aside to die on His blood drenched Cross for our sins, to rise on the 3rd day and to be the covering for all of our transgressions. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49398974 United States 01/09/2014 04:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would Brief be a Christian, Jesus was actually pretty wealthy, how can a wealthy righteous person die... Quoting: The Impaler This post makes no sense at all. Nevertheless, Jesus owns the world and everything in it--He came to earth for the purpose of dying for you and me, to cover our sins when we make Him Lord of our life....when we are "sold out" for Him. He will soon return as King of King and Lord of Lords...He created the universe and owns all of creation. Whether Brief is a Christian or not, he sounds like a responsible productive person who carries his weight. that is a form of righteousness....and a righteous man is far closer to the kingdom of God than an unrighteous one. If you had any meaning to your question, it eludes me, but Jesus set aside His wealth for His eartly sojourn...He was a lowly carpenter, who could have owned the riches of the world in His human form....since everything belongs to Him anyway. He set that aside to die on His blood drenched Cross for our sins, to rise on the 3rd day and to be the covering for all of our transgressions. :face_irrelephant: Yes, I know Jesus die, so I get rich on telling story of Jesus dying. Well then it stands to reckon, that Jesus coming back alive, means, GIVE IT ALL BACK TO GET JUDGED. Remember the talent parable... |
Silverfinger User ID: 48152706 United States 01/09/2014 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said unto him, if thou will be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor,and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, went away sorrowful for he had Great possessions. Then Jesus said unto his disciples, verily I say onto you, a rich man shall HARDLY enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. This life is not about gaining material wealth, in fact the Lord speaks just the opposite. So go ahead and keep telling yourself God wants me to have money to help others and my family. Behold the prophets and disciples had nothing and most of you would be calling them all sorts of names like deadbeats, losers, etc. God will take care of those who trust and follow him to the end. Most of you accusers of your poor fellow humans will never give up their earthly possessions. The message Jesus said 2000 years ago still rings true today......give up everything and follow me. At least you cannot stand before God on judgement and give an account you were ignorant. The truth is in the Word, but most people only like focusing on their perceptions and not actually fact in the Word of the Most High God. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 49398974 United States 01/09/2014 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Didn't Jesus say that we will always have the poor with us? Is that a command to keep the masses poor maybe? Doesn't that suggest he was a rich bastard, and everything you got was borrowed from the guy in the first place? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51919055 United States 01/09/2014 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Oyster managing money for God's sake, raising hybrid babies for your aliens friends, posting on GLP 75,000 times in 3 years.... you are a busy man You have no idea, you could never keep up...maybe it's all the dope you smoke that's causing you to be retarded and lazy...something to consider. nah i think i do have a pretty good idea [link to en.wikipedia.org] Sorry to hear that, do you take prescription medication for that or just smoke dope to hide from your problems? So, brief, I hear you are a drunk? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45463749 United States 01/09/2014 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 19:21-24 Quoting: Silverfinger 48152706 Jesus said unto him, if thou will be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor,and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, went away sorrowful for he had Great possessions. Then Jesus said unto his disciples, verily I say onto you, a rich man shall HARDLY enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. This life is not about gaining material wealth, in fact the Lord speaks just the opposite. So go ahead and keep telling yourself God wants me to have money to help others and my family. Behold the prophets and disciples had nothing and most of you would be calling them all sorts of names like deadbeats, losers, etc. God will take care of those who trust and follow him to the end. Most of you accusers of your poor fellow humans will never give up their earthly possessions. The message Jesus said 2000 years ago still rings true today......give up everything and follow me. At least you cannot stand before God on judgement and give an account you were ignorant. The truth is in the Word, but most people only like focusing on their perceptions and not actually fact in the Word of the Most High God. Amen |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51919055 United States 01/09/2014 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 19:21-24 Quoting: Silverfinger 48152706 Jesus said unto him, if thou will be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor,and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, went away sorrowful for he had Great possessions. Then Jesus said unto his disciples, verily I say onto you, a rich man shall HARDLY enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. This life is not about gaining material wealth, in fact the Lord speaks just the opposite. So go ahead and keep telling yourself God wants me to have money to help others and my family. Behold the prophets and disciples had nothing and most of you would be calling them all sorts of names like deadbeats, losers, etc. God will take care of those who trust and follow him to the end. Most of you accusers of your poor fellow humans will never give up their earthly possessions. The message Jesus said 2000 years ago still rings true today......give up everything and follow me. At least you cannot stand before God on judgement and give an account you were ignorant. The truth is in the Word, but most people only like focusing on their perceptions and not actually fact in the Word of the Most High God. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52708566 United States 01/09/2014 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't ask color the year I gave to the girl with leukemia, although I don't recall you participating in that fund raiser either... Nor did I ask color when I bought a water heater for a Canadian GLP'er that same Christmas, and still didn't see you around to help. I can give more examples if you like. yeah man shoot us those links i'll wait. (and dont pretend that you dont have a disdain for colored folks....this isnt our first day here...) "disdain for colored folks"....isn't that cute? I'm an old woman, but I must jump in here and defend Brief from your unrighteous accusations. Disdain for colored folks.....nobody likes loud, obnoxious, obtrusive behavior, thug behavior and welfare mentality which is prevalent or rampant among the "colored folks." I've noticed that Brief has been very amenable to the lovely little "Tigher" who appears to be responsible appears a little dark in her attractive photos...and I like her.... Anyway, we who object to loud, angry, entitlement behaviors of the "dark group" object to the same behaviors in any group of people....white, black, purple, polka dot...name it... There are "colored folk" with the right attitude who are definitely acceptable and likeable, and lovable.... to me, and I am sure, to Brief. It's ATTITUDE THAT COUNTS! NOT COLOR! LIBERALS JUST DON't get it. |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 01/09/2014 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't ask color the year I gave to the girl with leukemia, although I don't recall you participating in that fund raiser either... Nor did I ask color when I bought a water heater for a Canadian GLP'er that same Christmas, and still didn't see you around to help. I can give more examples if you like. yeah man shoot us those links i'll wait. (and dont pretend that you dont have a disdain for colored folks....this isnt our first day here...) I don't owe you anything. Mock all you want, troll all you want, I laugh at your bitterness and stupidity :) I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43040646 United States 01/09/2014 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wouldnt it be more humane if we just eliminated the poor from the face of the earth? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52248045 Instead of 'poor' why don't you insert the following groups, Christians, Jews, Armenians, Native americans.... This argument is made by any group that cannot exploit the other group. |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 01/09/2014 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRIEF You have no idea, you could never keep up...maybe it's all the dope you smoke that's causing you to be retarded and lazy...something to consider. nah i think i do have a pretty good idea [link to en.wikipedia.org] Sorry to hear that, do you take prescription medication for that or just smoke dope to hide from your problems? So, brief, I hear you are a drunk? LOL, really? Perhaps you have me mixed up with someone else. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 01/09/2014 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't ask color the year I gave to the girl with leukemia, although I don't recall you participating in that fund raiser either... Nor did I ask color when I bought a water heater for a Canadian GLP'er that same Christmas, and still didn't see you around to help. I can give more examples if you like. yeah man shoot us those links i'll wait. (and dont pretend that you dont have a disdain for colored folks....this isnt our first day here...) "disdain for colored folks"....isn't that cute? I'm an old woman, but I must jump in here and defend Brief from your unrighteous accusations. Disdain for colored folks.....nobody likes loud, obnoxious, obtrusive behavior, thug behavior and welfare mentality which is prevalent or rampant among the "colored folks." I've noticed that Brief has been very amenable to the lovely little "Tigher" who appears to be responsible appears a little dark in her attractive photos...and I like her.... Anyway, we who object to loud, angry, entitlement behaviors of the "dark group" object to the same behaviors in any group of people....white, black, purple, polka dot...name it... There are "colored folk" with the right attitude who are definitely acceptable and likeable, and lovable.... to me, and I am sure, to Brief. It's ATTITUDE THAT COUNTS! NOT COLOR! LIBERALS JUST DON't get it. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
BRIEF User ID: 381742 United States 01/09/2014 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Brief is a troll, why does anyone even pay attention to him, obviously he is doing it to get a reaction out of people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52327901 of course, so why even post this? Ignore me please, my message is not for you. I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52708566 United States 01/09/2014 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Matthew 19:21-24 Quoting: Silverfinger 48152706 Jesus said unto him, if thou will be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor,and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, went away sorrowful for he had Great possessions. Then Jesus said unto his disciples, verily I say onto you, a rich man shall HARDLY enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. This life is not about gaining material wealth, in fact the Lord speaks just the opposite. So go ahead and keep telling yourself God wants me to have money to help others and my family. Behold the prophets and disciples had nothing and most of you would be calling them all sorts of names like deadbeats, losers, etc. God will take care of those who trust and follow him to the end. Most of you accusers of your poor fellow humans will never give up their earthly possessions. The message Jesus said 2000 years ago still rings true today......give up everything and follow me. At least you cannot stand before God on judgement and give an account you were ignorant. The truth is in the Word, but most people only like focusing on their perceptions and not actually fact in the Word of the Most High God. Ok, you grab a verse out of the Bible...in this case an instruction to a young man (probably Mark....who did later follow him to the end,...but that's a long, long story)...it was an instruction to a PARTICULAR, SPECIFIC person, because Jesus was God and knew the young man's heart. It was not an instruction for everyone. If you would take the Scriptures as a whole, you would realize that. Many of Jesus' followers were wealthy.....degree of wealth is not the issue. Luke specifically, the person Jesus was talking to, I believe and there are good reasons for that belief...later did "give up" everything (even though his family continued to be rich and followed Jesus) probably was the follower covered only by a sheet, when Jesus was arrested!).... he gave up even the clothes off his back when He finally decided Jesus was Lord!.... Jesus does not call for us to give up everything. He wants us to let go of the importance of the world and make Him our Number One, most important thing in life. If we give up everything, then we cannot take care of ourselves and will be a burden on others....which if you will search the Scriptures, clearly God does not want. Jesus' instruction to this one specific young man was because He knew that the heart of this young man was not yet His, and the ONE THING that this particular person needed to do to make Jesus His Lord and become His disciple. He wrote one of the gospels! |
vedklyvare User ID: 52713174 Sweden 01/09/2014 04:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Having money and financial responsibility is a sign of wholeness (God says be holy...which means whole, complete) It is not a sign that it is your master. It is the ATTITUDE toward money that matter. You can serve God by being financially responsible.... the verse about two masters means that if money is more important than God, then the person is serving money. Jesus has had many rich followers from His earthly sojourn, and before the Cross, and since the Cross---those followers placed Him before any wealth. And they have managed to serve Him better because of their financial responsibility. I do not believe in the phony "prosperity gospel"....if people many their lives responsibly and financially, then they prosper....that's the consequence engine, whether they are Chrisian or not. My point is that the Bible tells me that authentic Christians have common sense enough to manage their finances responsibly and be good stewards...and that definitely does not mean that they are serving money instead of God. People so twist the Scriptures! You people who think that poverty is godliness need to read the Scriptures as a whole-- God throughout His word proclaims over and over that we are to be responsible and accountable, and money and sex and the two main subjects for accountability and responsibility and good life management! Exactly right, and what I've learned over the years is that the better you manage what God gives you, the more responsibilities he hands you. You're a fake Christian. "What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead." James 2:14-15 If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless. James 1:26 "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world." James 1:27 “Then the King will turn to those on the left and say, ‘Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons.For I was hungry, and you didn’t feed me. I was thirsty, and you didn’t give me a drink. 43 I was a stranger, and you didn’t invite me into your home. I was naked, and you didn’t give me clothing. I was sick and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’ “Then they will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?’ “And he will answer, ‘I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.’ “And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life.” Matthew 25:41-46 "I the LORD search the heart and examine the mind, to reward each person according to their conduct, according to what their deeds deserve." Jeremiah 17:10 "Everyone who is arrogant in heart is an abomination to the Lord; be assured, he will not go unpunished." Proverbs 16:5 "One's pride will bring him low, but he who is lowly in spirit will obtain honor." Proverbs 29:23 "Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall." Proverbs 16:18 Let another praise you, and not your own mouth; a stranger, and not your own lips. Proverbs 27:2 "Thus says the Lord: “Let not the wise man boast in his wisdom, let not the mighty man boast in his might, let not the rich man boast in his riches." Jeremiah 9:23 "Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy." Ezekiel 16:49 But he gives more grace. Therefore it says, “God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble.” James 4:6 "Whoever belittles his neighbor lacks sense, but a man of understanding remains silent." Proverbs 11:12 19 Jesus said, “There was a certain rich man who was splendidly clothed in purple and fine linen and who lived each day in luxury. 20 At his gate lay a poor man named Lazarus who was covered with sores. 21 As Lazarus lay there longing for scraps from the rich man’s table, the dogs would come and lick his open sores. 22 “Finally, the poor man died and was carried by the angels to be with Abraham.[a] The rich man also died and was buried, 23 and his soul went to the place of the dead. There, in torment, he saw Abraham in the far distance with Lazarus at his side. 24 “The rich man shouted, ‘Father Abraham, have some pity! Send Lazarus over here to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue. I am in anguish in these flames.’ 25 “But Abraham said to him, ‘Son, remember that during your lifetime you had everything you wanted, and Lazarus had nothing. So now he is here being comforted, and you are in anguish. 26 And besides, there is a great chasm separating us. No one can cross over to you from here, and no one can cross over to us from there.’ 27 “Then the rich man said, ‘Please, Father Abraham, at least send him to my father’s home. 28 For I have five brothers, and I want him to warn them so they don’t end up in this place of torment.’ 29 “But Abraham said, ‘Moses and the prophets have warned them. Your brothers can read what they wrote.’ 30 “The rich man replied, ‘No, Father Abraham! But if someone is sent to them from the dead, then they will repent of their sins and turn to God.’ 31 “But Abraham said, ‘If they won’t listen to Moses and the prophets, they won’t listen even if someone rises from the dead.’” Luke 16:19-31 vedklyvare |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52708566 United States 01/09/2014 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Left, right paradigm is an illusion of choice you guys are imprisoned by, those are your two choices but they aren't much different. Hitler was considered to be on the right, yet his party had socialist in it's name. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52327901 Think laterally, think outside the box. We are pretending rich people have an advantage for the sake of ego at the moment, will handle egos later... Not a matter of being rich versus poor. Most of us will never be "rich" in the world's material things...the important issue is to be RESPONSIBLE, ACCOUNTABLE, PRODUCTIVE AND TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN RESPONSIBILITIES...not to be leeches off other people...that is robbery. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43541461 United States 01/09/2014 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus' instruction to this one specific young man was because He knew that the heart of this young man was not yet His, and the ONE THING that this particular person needed to do to make Jesus His Lord and become His disciple. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52708566 He wrote one of the gospels! Sure, take up your cross, and don't forget your bags of loot, and follow me to the strip club. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43541461 United States 01/09/2014 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not a matter of being rich versus poor. Most of us will never be "rich" in the world's material things...the important issue is to be RESPONSIBLE, ACCOUNTABLE, PRODUCTIVE AND TAKE CARE OF OUR OWN RESPONSIBILITIES...not to be leeches off other people...that is robbery. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52708566 Oh, leeches eh. Like being so spiritually bankrupt, you espouse someone else's life of selflessness as a reason to only be moderately selfless yourself? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52708566 United States 01/09/2014 04:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would Brief be a Christian, Jesus was actually pretty wealthy, how can a wealthy righteous person die... Quoting: The Impaler This post makes no sense at all. Nevertheless, Jesus owns the world and everything in it--He came to earth for the purpose of dying for you and me, to cover our sins when we make Him Lord of our life....when we are "sold out" for Him. He will soon return as King of King and Lord of Lords...He created the universe and owns all of creation. Whether Brief is a Christian or not, he sounds like a responsible productive person who carries his weight. that is a form of righteousness....and a righteous man is far closer to the kingdom of God than an unrighteous one. If you had any meaning to your question, it eludes me, but Jesus set aside His wealth for His eartly sojourn...He was a lowly carpenter, who could have owned the riches of the world in His human form....since everything belongs to Him anyway. He set that aside to die on His blood drenched Cross for our sins, to rise on the 3rd day and to be the covering for all of our transgressions. :face_irrelephant: Yes, I know Jesus die, so I get rich on telling story of Jesus dying. Well then it stands to reckon, that Jesus coming back alive, means, GIVE IT ALL BACK TO GET JUDGED. Remember the talent parable... I'm not the one who brought up the "irrelevant" subject.... I was just responding to an erroneous, nonsensical post. Just trying to contribute here Yes, the talent parable is exactly what we've been discussing----- The Lord wants us all to be good stewards...the be responsible in managing our finances and to pay our own way. |