Ok this chart is Staggering… Look at daily consumption levels… how much long can this go on

these two posts are not in contradiction to each other.

this one is interesting as well. look at the volatility near the end. How did we almost triple the volume of refined gas exporting since Obama has been in. Sounds odd for a clean energy guy huh? Those numbers look really odd. The up and down swings look like the last jerking of a spinning top.

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Last Edited by The Rickest Rick Sanchez on 01/09/2014 10:12 PM

It will decrease even further until the end of May, then it will increase and increase, it will continue to increase for a couple of years... Until the final collapse, at the end of 2027, early Beginnings of 2028 or something.

Take care.

I hear ya

Domestic, exports, imports. Need that data.

Rush hour probably still looks about the same... it is discretionary driving that takes the hit first and worst.

Another component buried in that fuel consumption statistic is commercial transportation and air-travel. Less trucks on the road, and less flights running daily make a big difference.

3rd order effect of less commercial traffic - the cost of surplus shipping containers has gone down substantially. Good for the preppers out there.

I mentioned a while back about people giving up their automobile

Couldn't make Mortgage payment and car payment/insurance

Anything over 30 days for my business and they get charged 1.5% per month, but then everyone I deal with knows this and it is clearly stated on my invoices.

My family car used to average 18,000 miles a year, the last three years its been below 10,000. We watch and conserve ,vacations have become a big event , no more 200 to 300 mile excursions monthly.

Since 2006 we've been selling refined fuel to China, India, and other nations. We never used to export refined product. Period. That's why gas was cheaper in the winter, and diesel was cheaper in the summer...had to sell off the surplus product within the domestic market. Bush broke that when he lifted the prohibition on sales of refined petroleum to other than NATO "trading partners".

Talk about de-regulating the petroleum companies - he gave them a blank check!!!

These are gasoline retail sales, not crude barrel sales.

As a small retailer dependent on tourism, I can tell you
that when gas prices shot up from less than $2 per gallon
to nearly $4 per gallon in 2007/08, two major things
happened.

Tourism dropped to record lows, and tens of thousands of
homes went into foreclosure.

APS was losing $5 million per month due to lack of billing
revenue. (Statewide electricity provider in AZ)
35,000 homes in the confines of the city of Phx foreclosed
immediately, and tens of thousands more later.

These figures are comparative to the rest of the nation,
give or take 10% plus or minus.

The other shoe to drop over the next several years was
jobs. The real unemployment rate by raw figures, is at
about 30% right now. Of jobs left, 40% are represented
by employees of federal, state and local jobs, NON
PRODUCTIVE, NO PRODUCING JOBS. Their paychecks represent
debits on the debt side of the accounting sheet at the
Federal Reserve.

THE JOBS ARE ALL ADMIN. NO SCREWDRIVERS. Meaning,
no construction, no manufacturing, no sand candles to take
to market, no crops. We are eating the produce of Mexico
and South America and growing nothing but poison GMO
corn for high fructose corn syrup and soybeans for filler.

Save your nation. Manufacture something, market it, produce
it, take it to direct market. Get out of debt and stop using
credit to the greatest degree possible. Get out of banks
and be your own bank.

We are in big big trouble. Turn off the propaganda machine
and get out in the communities. Talk to real people and
stop looking at well groomed media circus clowns.

Should I? :

A) Drive to get a pizza, when I can make it at home for 1/2 the money at twice the quality. Or I can pop in a digorno which is the the exact same GMO crap made in the exact same way they do at a chain?

B) Drive to a job every day for $12/hr, when 1/5 people are on subsidies that effectively pay more than that?

C) Drive to a movie theater with one other person and pay $60+ for one movie when you can get six months of netflix for that?

D) Drive to a concert/sports event when I can watch the best performances of every band that has ever been recorded in the comfort of my home, on $30 headphones that sound better than millions of dollars of gear and idiots screaming and talking. I can also pay $2 a drink for good stuff. Instead of $12 for piss water. I can also use my own toilet.

E) drive to a retail location. Any retail. Park, walk, get harassed, pay 10% more and sales tax than what I could get is shipped from an internet retailer for free?

... etc ...

The next big shoe to drop is people unloading all the collectibles they kept before the internet.

People aren't commuting in from the suburbs to the higher paying jobs in the city because those are disappearing. Now they sit on unemployment or work at their neighborhood Walmart.

Also, because of the "brilliant" cash for clunkers rebates of 2009-2010, many many used vehicles that were affordable to the poor and young were destroyed.

Gen Y kids aren't as into cars as the previous generations, either out of choice or lack of funds:

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Devistating

Nick@

Yep....same here

Never let it be forgotten:

"EVERY TIME WE DO SOMETHING, YOU TELL ME AMERICANS WILL DO THIS AND WILL DO THAT. I WANT TO TELL YOU SOMETHING VERY CLEAR: DON'T WORRY ABOUT AMERICAN PRESSURE ON ISRAEL;

WE, THE JEWISH PEOPLE, CONTROL AMERICA. AND THE AMERICANS KNOW IT."

-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon
October 3, 2001
(IAP News)

The official death of the road trip because everyone is too damned broke. That's sad. I bet there are alot of us here from the time we were little remember doing that. Just one more thing they try and take from us.

this is retail domestic sales.

they don't count people that have given up or no longer get unemployment benefits

Everyone is cutting expenses. We carpool to church, the grocery store, etc. We plan all trips ahead of time, to get all errands done in a row, with no side trips.

Yeah there are like 4 electric cars on the road. Good job dumbass.

Shocking. Not what I expected at all. Great thought-provoking material.

Now what was the average retail price per gallon, including taxes in both of those time periods?

DO unto babylon double what she has done unto you...

I know I was just being snarky.

I surmise that if you compared a chart with milk prices from 2008-2014 you would see an inverted pattern

Yes, but if we don't save the banks, it's bye-bye for everyone. It sucks, but that's the way it is.