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Sandy Hook: What gunman took Kaitlin Roig's cellphone?

 
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Thought I was onto something until I realized what an unlikely name "Harley Vest" was, lol.

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Re: Sandy Hook: What gunman took Kaitlin Roig's cellphone?
I'm definitely open to other explanations for Roig's phone being halfway between Sandy Hook School and a national park.
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I am so perplexed by the events that day....I have kinda come to the conclusion that two separate stories somehow became one.

I think there could be a Lanza storyline and a Sandy Hook Elementary storyline and at some point the two intersected.

Also think there might be some issues with LE and that is what is causing the disinformation, crazy reporting, etc.....
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FBK? What is that lol

Did you find a Harley Vest? Is that him?

I have been searching old school announcement trying to locate a name!
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Found a Michael T Vest who is somewhat interesting.

Listed as a pulmonary (think asbestos, perhaps?) specialist in MD, DE and New Haven, CT. Best I can tell, he's currently at the Newark, DE address.

[link to www.christianacare.org]
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I don't know if it's because her hair invokes Plame, but Ms. Roig strikes me as *so* CIA, lol.
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Could this just be the break everyone is looking for? Let's hope it gains momentum!


Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited “Israeli revenge” in, what he called, “the terrorist attack in Connecticut.”

Harris cited Israeli “rage” against the US and against President Barack Obama. By “Israel,” we mean “Netanyahu.”

The mission was to teach America a lesson, knowing that “America would take the punishment, keep “quiet,” and let a ‘fall guy’ take the blame.”

A “fall guy” is another word for “patsy.”

Harris, citing the flood of inconsistencies in the “cover story,” pointed out the following, “The facts are now becoming obvious.

During his interview today, Mike Harris explained his rationale for looking to Israel as responsible for Sandy Hook, saying “This is exactly what Israel did in Norway; the political party that voted sanctions against Israel was retaliated against by a “lone gunman” who killed 77 children. This is what Israel always does, they go after the children. It is what they do in Gaza every day. It is what was done in Norway. It is what happened at Sandy Hook. Nobody buys the “lone gunman” story anymore, not with the Gabby Giffords’ shooting, not with the Aurora “Batman” shooting, certainly not with Breveik, and certainly not in Connecticut.”

After Harris’ broadcast, key members of the military and law enforcement community contacted Veterans Today in full support of Harris’ analysis.

[link to www.presstv.com]
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Found a Michael T Vest who is somewhat interesting.

Listed as a pulmonary (think asbestos, perhaps?) specialist in MD, DE and New Haven, CT. Best I can tell, he's currently at the Newark, DE address.

[link to www.christianacare.org]
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IIRC, Vest is in Florida.
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Found a Michael T Vest who is somewhat interesting.

Listed as a pulmonary (think asbestos, perhaps?) specialist in MD, DE and New Haven, CT. Best I can tell, he's currently at the Newark, DE address.

[link to www.christianacare.org]
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IIRC, Vest is in Florida.
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I may have been responsible for that info (maybe it's true, yet, but)...there was a police report referring to a long-retired SHS employee (would have worked there in '80s or '90s) who was involved in some kind of threat; FL police called CT police for info.

At some point I think I said "Roig's ex in FL" and I think that isn't the same person (though Vest could be in FL, for all I know).
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I don't know if it's because her hair invokes Plame, but Ms. Roig strikes me as *so* CIA, lol.
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I said the same thing!!!!!banana2
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I don't know if it's because her hair invokes Plame, but Ms. Roig strikes me as *so* CIA, lol.
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I said the same thing!!!!!banana2
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I think part of it is that she fits the femme fatale role perfectly, and I imagine if her hair were dark, she'd fit well into any number of European/Mideast environments.
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I don't know if it's because her hair invokes Plame, but Ms. Roig strikes me as *so* CIA, lol.
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I said the same thing!!!!!banana2
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I think part of it is that she fits the femme fatale role perfectly, and I imagine if her hair were dark, she'd fit well into any number of European/Mideast environments.
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Ditto, and her mysterious all so important cell phone!
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Book 4, 00079319

"10:25:04 Lt Vanghele (white shirt) escorting Kaitlin Roig's class (room 12) from the northeast corner of the school with [CSP] Det Van Ness"
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Book 4, 00079319

"10:25:04 Lt Vanghele (white shirt) escorting Kaitlin Roig's class (room 12) from the northeast corner of the school with [CSP] Det Van Ness"
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That's from Bahamonde's dashcam.
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Book 4, 00079319

"10:25:04 Lt Vanghele (white shirt) escorting Kaitlin Roig's class (room 12) from the northeast corner of the school with [CSP] Det Van Ness"
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Unfortunately, Ms. Shannon Hicks was showing a deplorable lack of interest at that point (or had all her photos confiscated).
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Book 4, 00079319

"10:25:04 Lt Vanghele (white shirt) escorting Kaitlin Roig's class (room 12) from the northeast corner of the school with [CSP] Det Van Ness"
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Unfortunately, Ms. Shannon Hicks was showing a deplorable lack of interest at that point (or had all her photos confiscated).
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I think Hicks said she handed off her "reporter duties" and camera to Voket and she went into her firefighter mode.

Why did they wait so long to evacuate Roig's class? Could her class really have only been found 45 minutes after the cops got into the school?
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I don't know if it's because her hair invokes Plame, but Ms. Roig strikes me as *so* CIA, lol.
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I said the same thing!!!!!banana2
 Quoting: GuyBannister


I think part of it is that she fits the femme fatale role perfectly, and I imagine if her hair were dark, she'd fit well into any number of European/Mideast environments.
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Ditto, and her mysterious all so important cell phone!
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Both her and Michelle Gay seem to fit that role.
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Could this just be the break everyone is looking for? Let's hope it gains momentum!


Today, Michael Harris, former Republican candidate for governor of Arizona and GOP campaign finance chairman, in an internationally televised news broadcast, cited “Israeli revenge” in, what he called, “the terrorist attack in Connecticut.”

Harris cited Israeli “rage” against the US and against President Barack Obama. By “Israel,” we mean “Netanyahu.”

The mission was to teach America a lesson, knowing that “America would take the punishment, keep “quiet,” and let a ‘fall guy’ take the blame.”

A “fall guy” is another word for “patsy.”

Harris, citing the flood of inconsistencies in the “cover story,” pointed out the following, “The facts are now becoming obvious.

During his interview today, Mike Harris explained his rationale for looking to Israel as responsible for Sandy Hook, saying “This is exactly what Israel did in Norway; the political party that voted sanctions against Israel was retaliated against by a “lone gunman” who killed 77 children. This is what Israel always does, they go after the children. It is what they do in Gaza every day. It is what was done in Norway. It is what happened at Sandy Hook. Nobody buys the “lone gunman” story anymore, not with the Gabby Giffords’ shooting, not with the Aurora “Batman” shooting, certainly not with Breveik, and certainly not in Connecticut.”

After Harris’ broadcast, key members of the military and law enforcement community contacted Veterans Today in full support of Harris’ analysis.

[link to www.presstv.com]
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Book 4, 00079319

"10:25:04 Lt Vanghele (white shirt) escorting Kaitlin Roig's class (room 12) from the northeast corner of the school with [CSP] Det Van Ness"
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Unfortunately, Ms. Shannon Hicks was showing a deplorable lack of interest at that point (or had all her photos confiscated).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48919823


I think Hicks said she handed off her "reporter duties" and camera to Voket and she went into her firefighter mode.

Why did they wait so long to evacuate Roig's class? Could her class really have only been found 45 minutes after the cops got into the school?
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Yes - something about a memory stick, too. And once she changed into gear, they sent her right back to continue reporting. There must be hundreds of photos from those first moments.
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YouTube on Roig......

In comments section Kateslate11 thinks she may have read phone was found in school and she is checking that out.

Has anyone found that info yet?


[link to youtu.be]
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I started replies on this post so will add one more bit of info to that I've already stated (my method already explained) Sally Cox was locked in, when released she was told not to open her eyes but she did see 'his bike'

I keep getting banned between replies so will sign off from this stuff

One last thing, I have been hearing from this new method of 'tuning in' is that 'Sandy Hook' is going down and no amount of censoring is going to stop that
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Was it Manfredonia that had a cell phone in his hand that LE thought could be a gun?
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Was it Manfredonia that had a cell phone in his hand that LE thought could be a gun?
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Yep.
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Here's a picture I hadn't seen before of the two properties (and people running away past them) on 12/14:

[link to images.smh.com.au]
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Here's a picture I hadn't seen before of the two properties (and people running away past them) on 12/14:

[link to images.smh.com.au]
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Oh my - from that article: "Hampered by a gunshot wound in the leg, the vice-principal Anthony Salvatore crawled back inside the school office, frantically urging colleagues to phone 911."
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In 2011:

"Newtown schools swap assistant principals
Published 7:06 pm, Thursday, June 9, 2011


NEWTOWN -- Reed Intermediate School principal Sharon Epple announced Friday by email that Anthony Salvatore, the assistant principal at Reed Intermediate School, has accepted a transfer to Sandy Hook School effective July 1.

Sandy Hook assistant principal Jenn Sinal has accepted a transfer to Reed Intermediate School, also beginning July 1."

[link to www.newstimes.com]
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And regarding other staffing cuts:

"Dr. Robinson stated that watching the enrollment it is possible to eliminate some elementary teachers. Mr. Hart said there was only a change of 5 students and questioned how we could eliminate teachers. Dr. Robinson said there are 264 students for kindergarten. We need...4 at Sandy Hook...

Further reductions could be...the .2 [20%] music position at Sandy Hook for $21,264...

Mrs. Roche asked where elementary reductions would be made. Dr. Robinson said...a 2nd grade at Sandy Hook..."

[link to www.newtown.k12.ct.us]

I don't quite understand them letting Dievert go, then, since Robinson herself said they needed four K teachers at SHS, and then ended up with only two -- Janet Vollmer and Sue Perry.

That Vollmer thing. Keeps popping up. But...small town.

Question: is it possible it was Vollmer's room which was attacked? Vollmer teaches in the section of the school that was first razed (is that the "wet" hallway some have referred to? I strongly dislike that term.)

But Dievert didn't get fired, just transferred to Head O'Meadow. Interesting that Head O'Meadow would be threatened two days later, and two female staff transported from the scene by ambulance. I wonder if by chance one was Dievert? Though of course, according to PlasMan, this never happened (even though you can listen to every detail of it in the police audio from that day). [OK - rant ended].

What if HOM wasn't part of the attack on SHS - what if it was retaliation?
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According to the full-day kindergarten plans, the kindergarten team (as of January, 2012) was going to be:

Sandy Hook
Kindergarten Teachers
*Lisa Dievert
*Sue Perry
*Janet Vollmer
Reading Teacher
*Diane Dennis

[link to newtown.sandyhook.schooldesk.net]

Only Ms. Dievert left the school, acc. to the August 2012 SHS Connection.
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Oh God. Been in the wrong thread all this time. Sorry.
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The fact of the matter is Roig's cell phone is a huge piece of the puzzle. Its very possible the phone had a picture or video of what really happened. Somebody took it and destroyed the evidence.
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The fact of the matter is Roig's cell phone is a huge piece of the puzzle. Its very possible the phone had a picture or video of what really happened. Somebody took it and destroyed the evidence.
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Totally agree, and probably even more important (or just as important) is how that cellphone came to be between 6 and 10 Riverside Road.


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