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THE RAPTURE, FIRST-FRUITS AND ARIEL SHARON

 
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The following email was sent to me by a brother in Christ back in 2009:

"I had this vision when I was wide awake and I could talk to the Angel that was showing me the vision.

In this vision the Angel and I were walking and came upon a hill.

I looked at the hill and there was some graves in it, they started opening up and people were coming out of them.

I asked the Angel what is this?

He said “it’s the dead in Christ being resurrected, just as God said they would be".

I then saw people floating upward out of their cars and houses but I was not going with them”

I said when will this happen?

He replied “First-fruits”

He said “Yes, it will happen on First-fruits just as promised!”


Every Year, since 2009. I've been expecting the Rapture to occur on First-fruits on the following Dates:

[link to www.torahcalendar.com]

Sunday the 12th of April 2009 [Day 16 Month 1 Year 5995]

Friday the 2nd of April 2010 [Day 16 Month 1 Year 5996]

Tuesday the 22nd of March 2011 [Day 16 Month 1 Year 5997]

Sunday the 8th of April 2012 [Day 16 Month 1 Year 5998]

Friday the 29th of March 2013 [Day 16 Month 1 Year 5999]

Wednesday the 16th of April 2014 [Day 16 Month 1 Year 6000]

I had high hopes for the Rapture to occur this Year, it just didn't happen!

So I'm now looking towards next Year!

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hmm

thanks for sharing this op
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Interesting, did your friend give the date of the vision?
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Interesting, did your friend give the date of the vision?
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He said he had the vision in April 2008.
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Interesting, did your friend give the date of the vision?
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He said he had the vision in April 2008.
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We'll if he did then it was probably before first fruits of 2008, which makes this the seventh one since. The blood moon you referred to the day before is the first one in the Tetrad.
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Interesting, did your friend give the date of the vision?
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He said he had the vision in April 2008.
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


We'll if he did then it was probably before first fruits of 2008, which makes this the seventh one since. The blood moon you referred to the day before is the first one in the Tetrad.
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First-fruits 2008 falls on Monday the 24th [The 16th Day of the 1st Month Year 5994]

He had the vision in April of that Year. Back then we thought the Rapture was going to occur on First-fruits in 2009.

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You are not better than anyone who died before you.

Rapture is just a myth made by pastors to steal your money.

Sorry.
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This is not true. The Lord has promised in His Word to resurrect and give glorified bodies to all those who love Him by keeping His commandments.

It just so happens millions of His saints will be physically alive on the Day of the resurrection, and will not miss out on receiving their glorified bodies as well.

"For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body..." [Phil.3:20,21]

"we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.[1Thess.15:15-17]

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You are not better than anyone who died before you.

Rapture is just a myth made by pastors to steal your money.

Sorry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52795555


This is not true. The Lord has promised in His Word to resurrect and give glorified bodies to all those who love Him by keeping His commandments.

It just so happens millions of His saints will be physically alive on the Day of the resurrection, and will not miss out on receiving their glorified bodies as well.

"For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body..." [Phil.3:20,21]

"we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.[1Thess.15:15-17]
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


Some will be alive, so what?

You fail to realize that the above verses has nothing to do with a "rapture".

Matthew 24:29
"Immediately after the distress of those days

"'the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'
30 "Then
will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
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You are not better than anyone who died before you.

Rapture is just a myth made by pastors to steal your money.

Sorry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52795555


This is not true. The Lord has promised in His Word to resurrect and give glorified bodies to all those who love Him by keeping His commandments.

It just so happens millions of His saints will be physically alive on the Day of the resurrection, and will not miss out on receiving their glorified bodies as well.

"For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body..." [Phil.3:20,21]

"we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.[1Thess.15:15-17]
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


Some will be alive, so what?

You fail to realize that the above verses has nothing to do with a "rapture".

Matthew 24:29
"Immediately after the distress of those days

"'the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'
30 "Then
will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52795555


In another words, if you believe in the rapture, you believe that the messiah will come a second and then a third time...
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You are not better than anyone who died before you.

Rapture is just a myth made by pastors to steal your money.

Sorry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52795555


This is not true. The Lord has promised in His Word to resurrect and give glorified bodies to all those who love Him by keeping His commandments.

It just so happens millions of His saints will be physically alive on the Day of the resurrection, and will not miss out on receiving their glorified bodies as well.

"For our citizenship is in heaven, from which we also eagerly wait for the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, who will transform our lowly body that it may be conformed to His glorious body..." [Phil.3:20,21]

"we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.[1Thess.15:15-17]
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


Some will be alive, so what?

You fail to realize that the above verses has nothing to do with a "rapture".

Matthew 24:29
"Immediately after the tribulation of those days

"'the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'
30 "Then
will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52795555


"These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have PEACE. In the world you will have TRIBULATION; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.” [John 16:33]

We have the peace of God when our lives are producing the righteousness of God. The World fights against this with a passion.

Hence many succumb and practise unrighteousness, which is soul destroying and makes a person unfit to be a citizen of God's heavenly kingdom.

In these Last Days the war on a life of righteousness is intense!

Only those who are filled with the Holy Spirit and are keeping the Lord's commandments will overcome and escape the wrath of God.

"For God did not appoint us to wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ..." [1Thess.5:9]

The wrath of God is God's judgement on a world that has chosen to live in wickedness and unrighteousness.

God is NOT in the business of judging the righteous with the wicked.

He didn't do it with Noah and Lot, and He definitely will not do it with His Bride, the Church.

The Lord's wrath will ONLY fall on the earth when He removes all those that obey Him!

"...the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ." [2 Thess.1:7,8]

I believe our Salvation and the Lord's wrath on the wicked are really two sides of the same coin - you can't have one without the other!

What many fail to realise is that this planet belongs to the Lord Jesus Christ. And if you want to live on it, you must live in accordance with His Laws. Failure to do this means death.

The Apostate Church, for Years, have been falsely representing the Lord as someone who is weak, for their own selfish ends!

They know that if they preached against unrighteousness, their Churches would be empty.

That's why a life of righteousness is not preached in the pulpit.

That's why we have Churches filled with fornicators, adulterers, homosexuals and those that practise cruelty and wickedness!

This is why God's wrath on all those who claim to be Christian and in practise are not, is going to be so severe.

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For Almighty God is the God of the living!

Not the god of the sleeping or of dead carcasses buried out in a hole somewhere. When the flesh dies you're done with it. Those elements used to make up your flesh are recycled into other flesh bodies. There are carbon in that cheeseburger you ate yesterday that could have been used in a flesh mans body 3000 years ago. Are you gonna fight with that man of those carbon molecules at the resurrection? Of course your not cause you are done with them!

All have spiritual bodies they inhabit when the flesh dies. It just that some are still liable to be destroyed by God after judgment which isn't for another 1000+ years out. The dead in Christ have already gone back to Him. Immediately they go!
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For Almighty God is the God of the living!

Not the god of the sleeping or of dead carcasses buried out in a hole somewhere. When the flesh dies you're done with it. Those elements used to make up your flesh are recycled into other flesh bodies. There are carbon in that cheeseburger you ate yesterday that could have been used in a flesh mans body 3000 years ago. Are you gonna fight with that man of those carbon molecules at the resurrection? Of course your not cause you are done with them!

All have spiritual bodies they inhabit when the flesh dies. It just that some are still liable to be destroyed by God after judgment which isn't for another 1000+ years out. The dead in Christ have already gone back to Him. Immediately they go!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42323413


All those who have died in Christ are currently dwelling with the Lord as living souls.

They have spiritual bodies that can only function in the heavens.

For these bodies to become solid enough to be seen and touched by someone on earth, the Lord as to destroy completely the remains that are now currently in the grave.

This is technically what the resurrection is.

It's a complete extermination of the remains.

"...He will swallow up[destroy completely] death forever," [Isa.25:8]

"For we know that if our earthly house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens." [2Cor.5:1]

This is why when the Lord rose from the dead He left nothing in the grave. He completely destroyed the body He had before His resurrection and build a whole new body from divine substances.

This is why the Lord said to the disciples, after His resurrection,

"Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself. Handle Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see I have.”[Luke 24:39]

This body is flesh and bones and is the kind of body He's going to give all those who love Him when He returns in the Rapture.

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Jesus said, "...I am the Resurrection..." (John 11:25)

The Word also says,

"...Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the First-fruits of those who have fallen asleep." (1Cor.15:20)

Doing good from the love of Jesus Christ in us, according to the truths of His Word, is the evidence that we have His firstfruits.

"Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth—those who have done good, to the resurrection..." [5:28,29]

It's these firstfruits the Lord is going to "lock on to" on the Day of Firstfruits and resurrect and translate all those who have them.

Now consider the following:

The Lord said,

"Whoever eats My flesh [the bread] and drinks my blood [the wine] has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the Last Day." (John 6:54)

The "Last Day" in the above verse, is the Day of first-fruits and it's observed on the 16th Day of the 1st Month on the Torah Calendar.

[link to www.torahcalendar.com]

It comes 3 days after observing the Lord's Supper on the 14th Day of the 1st Month!

For we read,

"...and when He [the Lord] had given thanks He broke it [that is, the bread] and said,

"Take eat, this is My body which is broken for you; do this [on the 14th Day of the 1st Month] in remembrance of Me."

In the same manner He also took the cup after Supper, saying,

"This cup is the new covenant in my My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, [on the 14th Day of the 1st Month] in remembrance of Me

For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death till He comes.

I believe "till He comes" in the above verse is referring to the Lord's coming on the Day of First-fruits!

On the 16th Day of the 1st Month 33 AD,

"...the graves were opened, and many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised; and coming out of the graves after His resurrection..." [Matt.27:52,53]

I believe that the resurrection of these saints, on the Day of first-fruits 1,981 Years ago, is a foretaste, a preview, if you will, of the resurrection and translation of the saints to occur, on the Day of first-fruits at the End of the Christian Church Age.

I believe we are to observe the Lord's Supper on Saturday the 4th of April 2015 [Day 14 Month 1 Year 6001], and then expect the Lord to come for us, 3 days later, on Monday the 6th of April 2015 [Day 16 Month 1 Year 6001].

Let us continue to hope, with great anticipation, for the Lord's coming on First-fruits!

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The Lord has promised in His Word to resurrect and give glorified bodies to all those who love Him by keeping His commandments.
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This part's correct, but there's no "going away" involved. Those who qualify are needed here on earth.
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The Lord has promised in His Word to resurrect and give glorified bodies to all those who love Him by keeping His commandments.
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


This part's correct, but there's no "going away" involved. Those who qualify are needed here on earth.
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Those who will be needed on earth will be all those who repent, once the Rapture has taken place, and make up the Church of the Millennium.

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The Lord has promised in His Word to resurrect and give glorified bodies to all those who love Him by keeping His commandments.
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


This part's correct, but there's no "going away" involved. Those who qualify are needed here on earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52621665


Those who will be needed on earth will be all those who repent, once the Rapture has taken place, and make up the Church of the Millennium.
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


Screw the "church" - think bigger.
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Please explain further.
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This part's correct, but there's no "going away" involved. Those who qualify are needed here on earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52621665


Those who will be needed on earth will be all those who repent, once the Rapture has taken place, and make up the Church of the Millennium.
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


Screw the "church" - think bigger.
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Please explain further.
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The time for christians to be thinking in terms of Us vs. Them is over. God has invested in the redemption of all mankind, not just the laborers who showed up early.

He isn't going to light the candle only to remove it from the place where it's needed most. If the heirs receive the resurrected body of Christ, they'll be perfectly suited to do His work worldwide, including the "greater works" He spoke of. There's a lot of injustice to sort out and ills to remedy.
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Those who will be needed on earth will be all those who repent, once the Rapture has taken place, and make up the Church of the Millennium.
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


Screw the "church" - think bigger.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52621665


Please explain further.
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


The time for christians to be thinking in terms of Us vs. Them is over. God has invested in the redemption of all mankind, not just the laborers who showed up early.

He isn't going to light the candle only to remove it from the place where it's needed most. If the heirs receive the resurrected body of Christ, they'll be perfectly suited to do His work worldwide, including the "greater works" He spoke of. There's a lot of injustice to sort out and ills to remedy.
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You don't seem to understand that this physical realm is governed by the the spirit realm. All the wickedness practised by men and women all over the world, doesn't actually originate from them.

They are being inspired by fallen angels. This is why the Word tells us:

"...we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age,against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places." [Eph.6:12]

This spiritual realm is where all the action is!!!

Once the spiritual realm is sorted out love,joy and peace will reign on earth.

All those who receive glorified bodies are not ascending up into the heavens to sit on clouds and do nothing for the rest of eternity!

They're ascending into the heavens to displace the "rulers of darkness" and "hosts of wickedness" and THEN inspire the human race with love, joy and peace.

This is what judging the world and angels actually entails.

It can't be done until we receive our glorified bodies.

"Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we shall judge angels?" [1Cor.6:2,3]

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I would be careful. The Rabbi was a Kabbalist. This is an occult practice rooted in ancient Babylon times. His prophecy of the coming of the Messiah *could* very well be a prophecy of the coming of Antichrist. As the Bible says, the man of sin (antichrist) will come first. Make sure everything lines up according to scripture.
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believers should be watching either way. abduct
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Matthew 13:30

Gather first the tares
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Matthew 13:30

Gather first the tares
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I noticed you only quoted half the verse.

“First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn" [Matt.13:30]

It's so important you understand how the above verse is lived out in the world today.

As men and women live out their lives day in day out with total disregard for the Lord's commandments, they are being bound or grouped together to be rejected as unfit for the Lord's kingdom.

This is what is now taking place first! Notice the above verse says "bind them in bundles to burn them" Which means there's a time lap between the binding into bundles and the burning of the tares.

The actual "burning" will begin on the very Day the wheat [that is the saints] are gathered into the barn. Which literally means the very Day all the saints receive their glorified bodies and ascend up into heaven.

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The reason everyone says you can't know the day is a lack of understanding of Jewish culture.

The great one day was actually 2 days (24 hour periods) in which Jesus could say no one knows the day.

Since you would ask which of the 2 days, being combined would be "THE DAY" when the high priest blew the trumpet!

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rosh hashana the day no man knows.
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This is not what the Bible teaches. Christians really need to stop mixing Jewish traditions with the understanding ONLY the Holy Spirit can give.
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Matthew 13:30

Gather first the tares
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I noticed you only quoted half the verse.

“First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn" [Matt.13:30]

It's so important you understand how the above verse is lived out in the world today.

As men and women live out their lives day in day out with total disregard for the Lord's commandments, they are being bound or grouped together to be rejected as unfit for the Lord's kingdom.

This is what is now taking place first! Notice the above verse says "bind them in bundles to burn them" Which means there's a time lap between the binding into bundles and the burning of the tares.

The actual "burning" will begin on the very Day the wheat [that is the saints] are gathered into the barn. Which literally means the very Day all the saints receive their glorified bodies and ascend up into heaven.
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In your opinion, when two are working in the field, and one is taken, will the taken one be wicked or righteous?

Because I've got a verse right here that says all that offend will be plucked out?
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You don't seem to understand that this physical realm is governed by the the spirit realm. All the wickedness practised by men and women all over the world, doesn't actually origin from them.

They are being inspired by fallen angels. This is why the Word tells us:

"...we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age,against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places." [Eph.6:12]

This spiritual realm is where all the action is!!!

Once the spiritual realm is sorted out love,joy and peace will reign on earth.

All those who receive glorified bodies are not ascending up into the heavens to sit on clouds and do nothing for the rest of eternity!

They're ascending into the heavens to displace the "rulers of darkness" and "hosts of wickedness" and THEN inspire the human race with love, joy and peace.

This is what judging the world and angels actually entails.

It can't be done until we receive our glorified bodies.

"Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we shall judge angels?" [1Cor.6:2,3]
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


Fair enough - that's a lot better than the "escape" mentality of most Rapturists
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The Lord has promised in His Word to resurrect and give glorified bodies to all those who love Him by keeping His commandments.
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This part's correct, but there's no "going away" involved. Those who qualify are needed here on earth.
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If I might offer a slight rebuttal:

The Faithful Church

7 “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write,

‘These things says He who is holy, He who is true, “He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens”:[c] 8 “I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it;[d] for you have a little strength, have kept My word, and have not denied My name. 9 Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you. 10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 11 Behold,[e] I am coming quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown. 12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.

13 “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”’

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Fair enough
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Matthew 13:30

Gather first the tares
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I noticed you only quoted half the verse.

“First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn" [Matt.13:30]

It's so important you understand how the above verse is lived out in the world today.

As men and women live out their lives day in day out with total disregard for the Lord's commandments, they are being bound or grouped together to be rejected as unfit for the Lord's kingdom.

This is what is now taking place first! Notice the above verse says "bind them in bundles to burn them" Which means there's a time lap between the binding into bundles and the burning of the tares.

The actual "burning" will begin on the very Day the wheat [that is the saints] are gathered into the barn. Which literally means the very Day all the saints receive their glorified bodies and ascend up into heaven.
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


In your opinion, when two are working in the field, and one is taken, will the taken one be wicked or righteous?

Because I've got a verse right here that says all that offend will be plucked out?
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The righteous are taken and the wicked are left.

"Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming.[Matt.24:40-42]

The rightous are not watching to be left! They are watching to be taken.

Once the righteous are taken THEN the "burning" of the wicked can begin.

"The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness,and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth." [Matt.13:41-43]

All those who repent on earth AFTER they see what is happening to the wicked all around them, will begin a new glolden Age of love, joy and peace on earth.
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SO YOU Explain it then...


The reason everyone says you can't know the day is a lack of understanding of Jewish culture.

The great one day was actually 2 days (24 hour periods) in which Jesus could say no one knows the day.

Since you would ask which of the 2 days, being combined would be "THE DAY" when the high priest blew the trumpet!

 Quoting: rod777


rosh hashana the day no man knows.
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This is not what the Bible teaches. Christians really need to stop mixing Jewish traditions with the understanding ONLY the Holy Spirit can give.
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SO YOU Explain it then...


The reason everyone says you can't know the day is a lack of understanding of Jewish culture.

The great one day was actually 2 days (24 hour periods) in which Jesus could say no one knows the day.

Since you would ask which of the 2 days, being combined would be "THE DAY" when the high priest blew the trumpet!

 Quoting: rod777


rosh hashana the day no man knows.
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This is not what the Bible teaches. Christians really need to stop mixing Jewish traditions with the understanding ONLY the Holy Spirit can give.
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME

 Quoting: rod777


"I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last..." [Rev.1:10,11]

This Feast marks the Day when millions of men, women from all over the world, will read the Word of God at the same time. This will begin in the very Month the Antichrist will be removed from power.

"Now all the people gathered together as one man in the open square that was in front of the Water Gate; and they told Ezra the scribe to bring the Book of the Law of Moses, which the Lord had commanded Israel. So Ezra the priest brought the Law before the assembly of men and women and all who could hear with understanding on the first day of the seventh month. Then he read from it in the open square that was in front of the Water Gate from morning until midday, before the men and women and those who could understand; and the ears of all the people were attentive to the Book of the Law."[Neh.8:1-3]

The reading of the Word all over the World for three hours [0900-Noon] is going to be the norm on the 1st Day of 7th Month in the Ages to come.

Stick to the Word and forget the Jewish traditions.

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Matthew 13:30

Gather first the tares
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39972107


I noticed you only quoted half the verse.

“First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn" [Matt.13:30]

It's so important you understand how the above verse is lived out in the world today.

As men and women live out their lives day in day out with total disregard for the Lord's commandments, they are being bound or grouped together to be rejected as unfit for the Lord's kingdom.

This is what is now taking place first! Notice the above verse says "bind them in bundles to burn them" Which means there's a time lap between the binding into bundles and the burning of the tares.

The actual "burning" will begin on the very Day the wheat [that is the saints] are gathered into the barn. Which literally means the very Day all the saints receive their glorified bodies and ascend up into heaven.
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


In your opinion, when two are working in the field, and one is taken, will the taken one be wicked or righteous?

Because I've got a verse right here that says all that offend will be plucked out?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39972107


The righteous are taken and the wicked are left.

"Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming.[Matt.24:40-42]

The rightous are not watching to be left! They are watching to be taken.

Once the righteous are taken THEN the "burning" of the wicked can begin.

"The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness,and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth." [Matt.13:41-43]

All those who repent on earth AFTER they see what is happening to the wicked all around them, will begin a new glolden Age of love, joy and peace on earth.
 Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME


So you think that those of us who teach and feed others the meat of Gods word that might keep you safe right in the middle of the tribulation of satan are wicked and are not watching? All you have is some rapture salvation milk to watch and be soothsayed with.

We see all too we what is going on. We are watching you preparing to harlot yourselves off to satan. Those virgins that had not enough oil. Don't come to my house for oil bringing doctrines not of Christ in that evil time. My lips will be sealed as instructed (can you find that instruction?) but Instead will leave my door closed at that time so the only place you might find oil is from those that sell freely in the midst of satans revival.

You better gird yourself in the truth of Gods Word Christian. There is no time left to simply play church.
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the rapture could occur sometime in the middle to late, as late as 9-25-2015 i believe.

we are waiting on the anti christ to be revealed which could be on the first blood moon of this year, just a guess.

the scorpions things could be stinging people between the 3 and four blood moons, those 5 months between then or 4-4-2015 and 9-25-2015 again a guess followed by the rapture...
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The Antichrist has already been revealed! He's in the Whitehouse!

Don't be like the Pharisees in reverse.

They were waiting for the Messiah when all the while He was standing right in front of them!
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All those in the World today who acknowledge Jesus Christ as their Lord and God and are living according to the truths of His Word, are the firstfruits of His creatures.

"Of His own will He [Jesus] brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures.[James 1:18]

This means before the earth can be renewed, the Lord is going to give glorified bodies to all those who have His firstfruits in them.

"For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God...the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body."[Rom.8:19,21-23]

The Holy Spirit proceeds or radiates from the glorified body of Jesus Christ that's why the Lord didn't give the Holy Spirit to His disciples until, after His resurrection, on Sunday the 5th of April 33 AD, on Firstfruits [The 16th Day of the 1st Month Year 33]

For on that Day He,

"...breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit." [John 20:22]

"...this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified." [John 7:39]

"Then He [Jesus] said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.”

And Thomas answered and said to Him [Jesus], “My Lord and my God!” [John 20:27,28]

Our firstfruits are from the Lord Jesus Christ, and he's going to use them to resurrect [those who have died] and translate [those of us who are alive]us, I believe, on the Day of firstfruits.

That's why we read,

"Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep." [1Cor.15:20]

All those who died as believers, died with the firstfruits of Jesus Christ in them. They are therefore waiting for the Day of firstfruits to be resurrected!

In Paul's Day the saints were called firstfruits of the city they lived in.

Achaia, a city in Greece, had many firstfruits in it and that's why Paul wrote:

"...you know the household of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have devoted themselves to the ministry of the saints." [1Cor.15:16]

And again:

"Greet my beloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia to Christ." [Rom.16:5]

In the same way, the Lord has His firstfruits in cities all over the World today!

There are the firstfruits of London, the firstfruits of New York, the firstfruits of Berlin, the firstfruits of California and so on.

On Firstfruits, which fell on Sunday the 5th of April 33 the Lord rose from grave. On the very same Day the Lord also raised from the grave many saints

"...many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised and coming out of the graves after His resurrection..." [Matt.27:52,53]

It's not a stretch to assume the Lord will raise from the grave once again, on Firstfruits, all the saints who have the firstfruits of His Spirit!

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