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Giants existed -NYTIMES PROOF

 
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Holy shit. The amount of ignorance here is ridiculous.


I don't know anything about giants, but please approach this with a little rationality.

[link to query.nytimes.com]
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How finding these automatically makes it true is way beyond me. Do some fucking fact checking, and I don't mean go on youtube and pull up some video. Find some verifiable sources, and then you can yell at others for being wrong. OP, the way you and others are coming off in this thread is counterproductive to any kind of information sharing (you might as well not have even posted this)

If you keep calling people 'stupid' for their beliefs (ESPECIALLY if it's due to being, as you believe to be, misinformed - on top of that, what you believe is no more provable), you're going to farther divide everyone.

And something I'm sure we can all agree on is that the division is what the TPTB wants the most.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51726774


oh, dont make me cry...
c`mon man what do you want?
You want me to say the Bible its a lie and evolution its truth just to agree with people that is BLIND TO THE TRUTH?
dont fool yourself, it was I that was called stupid for being a creationist, so I ask:

Evolucionists believe in a theory that doesnt have a single proof of a evolution from one species to the other, NOT EVEN ONE!

Not even one skeleton of a intermediate species, NOT EVEN ONE!

In millions of years theres NOT EVEN ONE!
and:
The mathematical probability for evolution is 0%!

And you want me to agree with people that believe in a NONSENSE like the THEORY OF EVOLUTION?

If creationists are stupid what should we say about evolucionists...

Wake up man!

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I think there may be more than one reason for tptb to keep info like this from the masses.

I'm just throwing this out there for those who like to research and look for connections, (as I do).

This may also have something to do with the Hollow Earth theory.

Remember that in Genesis it says "there were giants IN the earth in those days; and also after that," (emphasis mine).

Previously, in Genesis, when Cain was punished for killing Abel, he said to the Lord, "My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, Thou hast driven me out this day FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH; and from thy face shall I be HID; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond IN THE EARTH..."

So, if the giants lived IN the earth - and Cain was banished from the FACE of the earth, to live as a vagabond IN the earth...

Can you see that - if the Hollow Earth theory has any validity, that could be another reason for not wanting the masses to know about the giants?

Also, a few years back, an expedition was arranged by this guy for travelling to and exploring the alleged opening in the earth found at the North Pole.

Tickets were purchased and all was a "go," when the guy who headed it up got "pancreatic cancered," and died six months before they were scheduled to leave. Later, someone else picked up the project and when the expedition was ready to begin, there was a problem with the chartering of the ice breaker, (apparently, the one they chartered wasn't available or something like that).

A couple of other points that seem to connect: The video mentioned a wall with hieroglyphics etched in it, (which can also be found in various places around America). Egyptian art always depicted rulers as giants.

The mentioning of the six fingers and toes and horns: Very rarely, individuals are born with such traits. And of course, giants are still known to us today.

Genetically speaking, aren't all traits inherited?
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Whether the giants grew large from "reduced gravity" or because they were hybrid humans-fallen_angels...either way, it confirms that the Biblical account of the existence of giants is true.

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actually no, it does not.

the bible does not just state
there were giants

it goes into detail about how
the giants came into being

this is where the lie creeps
into the story

since Ancient Hebrews did not understand
gravity as we do today, they fabricated
a story about giants with the sole
purpose of demonizing them so they
could kill them off and take their
land and possessions. Hebrew mind control
for an agenda.

such is also the story of David killing Goliath.
Goliath was bad because he was offspring
of fallen angels. pure utter horse shit.

Not only gravity plays a part in size
but also diet, The Philistines were red
meat eaters, Hebrews were not. So diet
also played a role in human size just as
Asian cultures today thrive on rice,
rice stunts their growth due to lack
of red meat in the diet.

so if the Hebrews lied about where the
giants came from, then it makes the whole
story utter horse shit.

just another system of control through
mind programming
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Also, in Exodus, it talks about Moses coming down the mountain after meeting with the Lord. I can't remember exactly where it is written about. Anyway - Moses came down from the mountain and it says his face was shining so brightly that he had to wear a veil over it. The word in Hebrew that was used for "shine or shining" also could be translated as "horned." In some very early, (medieval, I think), artwork, Moses is depicted as horned. Also, if I'm not mistaken, the apostles are as well.
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I think there may be more than one reason for tptb to keep info like this from the masses.

I'm just throwing this out there for those who like to research and look for connections, (as I do).

This may also have something to do with the Hollow Earth theory.

Remember that in Genesis it says "there were giants IN the earth in those days; and also after that," (emphasis mine).

Previously, in Genesis, when Cain was punished for killing Abel, he said to the Lord, "My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, Thou hast driven me out this day FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH; and from thy face shall I be HID; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond IN THE EARTH..."

So, if the giants lived IN the earth - and Cain was banished from the FACE of the earth, to live as a vagabond IN the earth...

Can you see that - if the Hollow Earth theory has any validity, that could be another reason for not wanting the masses to know about the giants?

Also, a few years back, an expedition was arranged by this guy for travelling to and exploring the alleged opening in the earth found at the North Pole.

Tickets were purchased and all was a "go," when the guy who headed it up got "pancreatic cancered," and died six months before they were scheduled to leave. Later, someone else picked up the project and when the expedition was ready to begin, there was a problem with the chartering of the ice breaker, (apparently, the one they chartered wasn't available or something like that).

A couple of other points that seem to connect: The video mentioned a wall with hieroglyphics etched in it, (which can also be found in various places around America). Egyptian art always depicted rulers as giants.

The mentioning of the six fingers and toes and horns: Very rarely, individuals are born with such traits. And of course, giants are still known to us today.

Genetically speaking, aren't all traits inherited?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1443836

nevertheless, in the end Cain had been put down upon the face of the earth, and his city he had built upon earth too, not UNDER.
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I think there may be more than one reason for tptb to keep info like this from the masses.

I'm just throwing this out there for those who like to research and look for connections, (as I do).

This may also have something to do with the Hollow Earth theory.

Remember that in Genesis it says "there were giants IN the earth in those days; and also after that," (emphasis mine).

Previously, in Genesis, when Cain was punished for killing Abel, he said to the Lord, "My punishment is greater than I can bear. Behold, Thou hast driven me out this day FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH; and from thy face shall I be HID; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond IN THE EARTH..."

So, if the giants lived IN the earth - and Cain was banished from the FACE of the earth, to live as a vagabond IN the earth...

Can you see that - if the Hollow Earth theory has any validity, that could be another reason for not wanting the masses to know about the giants?

Also, a few years back, an expedition was arranged by this guy for travelling to and exploring the alleged opening in the earth found at the North Pole.

Tickets were purchased and all was a "go," when the guy who headed it up got "pancreatic cancered," and died six months before they were scheduled to leave. Later, someone else picked up the project and when the expedition was ready to begin, there was a problem with the chartering of the ice breaker, (apparently, the one they chartered wasn't available or something like that).

A couple of other points that seem to connect: The video mentioned a wall with hieroglyphics etched in it, (which can also be found in various places around America). Egyptian art always depicted rulers as giants.

The mentioning of the six fingers and toes and horns: Very rarely, individuals are born with such traits. And of course, giants are still known to us today.

Genetically speaking, aren't all traits inherited?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1443836

nevertheless, in the end Cain had been put down upon the face of the earth, and his city he had built upon earth too, not UNDER.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52931593


First - I'm not claiming anything as fact. It is a curious way of wording that I noticed and that caused me to feel the connection while researching such things. Second - there are different Hollow Earth theories out there. I've only scratched the surfaces of them so far, so I am not well enough versed to explain them.

But there is enough evidence that the nature of our true reality is hidden from us and great lengths were taken to achieve that.

I have no wish to argue scripture and I don't claim to know for a fact what those verses mean. I just find it intriguing.
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I think there may be more than one reason for tptb to keep info like this from the masses.

I'm just throwing this out there for those who like to research and look for connections, (as I do).

This may also have something to do with the Hollow Earth theory.
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In April 1974, psychic Joyce Partise of Southern California held a sealed envelope in her hands. Unknown to her, that envelope contained a photograph of a Sasquatch footprint … [Ms Partise gave her feeling] … These things are coming from outer space … it's an outer space war! The first area will be Portland, Oregon. … There's a mountain with a hole in it. Someone should investigate this mountain because they're down in there already. You know those hairy things that run around, the ape-man? He's not an ape. They're underground in contact with outer space and their intentions toward mankind is total destruction!As reported by Ms. Slate, the California psychic continues:
This gorilla man … their eyes are extremely light sensitive from being underground. These tunnels I'm seeing are part of their habitation. They've dug them. I think it may even go into California.
As Ms Slate explains;
Bordered by the Pacific Ocean on the west, the rugged Cascade Mountains extend the entire state from north to south. Armies of men could be hidden within the dense forests which cover nearly 50 percent of the total land area. Certainly subterranean activity could go unnoticed within lave tubes, deep canyons, miles of unexplored caves, and underground streams.
As we can see from the report above, the Bigfoot-Subterranean Worlds connection is an area that needs much closer study. But would you believe --- a Sandman?
Warren Smith in his 1970 book Strange Abominable Snowmen wrote about the Abominable Sandman of Borrego who has been puzzling treasure hunters and gold prospectors since 1964. The underground connection becomes clear as Mr. Smith explains the lure of the isolated Borrego Valley desert of California:
This is an arid, virtually uninhabited area near the Mexican border. There are scores of crevices, caves and openings in the Superstition Mountains. Many treasure hunters believe the Cocopah Indians once knew of a subterranean network of caves and tunnels beneath the mountains.
Mr. Smith tells of one treasure hunter who found signs of the elusive “Sandman.”
Major Victor Stoyanow was seeking the entrance to just such a labyrinth in this area in January 1964, when he noticed several huge, human-like footprints in the sand.
The prints ran in pairs, generally parallel and they averaged 14 centimeters in length and 9 wide at the instep,? Major Stoyanow declared after his investigation. (Page 91).
As my continuing research seems to point out there is defiantly a connection between the underground cavern and tunnels systems and the elusive creature know as Bigfoot.
[link to thehollowearthinsider.com]
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I think there may be more than one reason for tptb to keep info like this from the masses.

I'm just throwing this out there for those who like to research and look for connections, (as I do).

This may also have something to do with the Hollow Earth theory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1443836


In April 1974, psychic Joyce Partise of Southern California held a sealed envelope in her hands. Unknown to her, that envelope contained a photograph of a Sasquatch footprint … [Ms Partise gave her feeling] … These things are coming from outer space … it's an outer space war! The first area will be Portland, Oregon. … There's a mountain with a hole in it. Someone should investigate this mountain because they're down in there already. You know those hairy things that run around, the ape-man? He's not an ape. They're underground in contact with outer space and their intentions toward mankind is total destruction!As reported by Ms. Slate, the California psychic continues:
This gorilla man … their eyes are extremely light sensitive from being underground. These tunnels I'm seeing are part of their habitation. They've dug them. I think it may even go into California.
As Ms Slate explains;
Bordered by the Pacific Ocean on the west, the rugged Cascade Mountains extend the entire state from north to south. Armies of men could be hidden within the dense forests which cover nearly 50 percent of the total land area. Certainly subterranean activity could go unnoticed within lave tubes, deep canyons, miles of unexplored caves, and underground streams.
As we can see from the report above, the Bigfoot-Subterranean Worlds connection is an area that needs much closer study. But would you believe --- a Sandman?
Warren Smith in his 1970 book Strange Abominable Snowmen wrote about the Abominable Sandman of Borrego who has been puzzling treasure hunters and gold prospectors since 1964. The underground connection becomes clear as Mr. Smith explains the lure of the isolated Borrego Valley desert of California:
This is an arid, virtually uninhabited area near the Mexican border. There are scores of crevices, caves and openings in the Superstition Mountains. Many treasure hunters believe the Cocopah Indians once knew of a subterranean network of caves and tunnels beneath the mountains.
Mr. Smith tells of one treasure hunter who found signs of the elusive “Sandman.”
Major Victor Stoyanow was seeking the entrance to just such a labyrinth in this area in January 1964, when he noticed several huge, human-like footprints in the sand.
The prints ran in pairs, generally parallel and they averaged 14 centimeters in length and 9 wide at the instep,? Major Stoyanow declared after his investigation. (Page 91).
As my continuing research seems to point out there is defiantly a connection between the underground cavern and tunnels systems and the elusive creature know as Bigfoot.
[link to thehollowearthinsider.com]
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Very interesting story - and website! :)
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Whether the giants grew large from "reduced gravity" or because they were hybrid humans-fallen_angels...either way, it confirms that the Biblical account of the existence of giants is true.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45466362


actually no, it does not.

the bible does not just state
there were giants

it goes into detail about how
the giants came into being

this is where the lie creeps
into the story

since Ancient Hebrews did not understand
gravity as we do today, they fabricated
a story about giants with the sole
purpose of demonizing them so they
could kill them off and take their
land and possessions. Hebrew mind control
for an agenda.

such is also the story of David killing Goliath.
Goliath was bad because he was offspring
of fallen angels. pure utter horse shit.

Not only gravity plays a part in size
but also diet, The Philistines were red
meat eaters, Hebrews were not. So diet
also played a role in human size just as
Asian cultures today thrive on rice,
rice stunts their growth due to lack
of red meat in the diet.

so if the Hebrews lied about where the
giants came from, then it makes the whole
story utter horse shit.

just another system of control through
mind programming
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52939652


Wait just a minute.

Why weren't the people of that time all of essentially the same size if they lived under the same gravitational field?

Why did you have normal-sized people and giants living concurently?
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Wait just a minute.

Why weren't the people of that time all of essentially the same size if they lived under the same gravitational field?

Why did you have normal-sized people and giants living concurently?
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who said they lived under the same
gravitational field ???

during a pole shift, some tribes
were completely wiped out, including
an ice age.

some tribes survived already in a
giant status

however, new babies being born in
new heavier gravitation grew up
smaller

but it did not change the size of
the survivors, just their children
when they procreated.

this is how both giants and normal
size people can co-exist at the same
time.
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Wait just a minute.

Why weren't the people of that time all of essentially the same size if they lived under the same gravitational field?

Why did you have normal-sized people and giants living concurently?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45466362


who said they lived under the same
gravitational field ???

during a pole shift, some tribes
were completely wiped out, including
an ice age.

some tribes survived already in a
giant status

however, new babies being born in
new heavier gravitation grew up
smaller

but it did not change the size of
the survivors, just their children
when they procreated.

this is how both giants and normal
size people can co-exist at the same
time.
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well, even if the gravitational pull was weaker than now, this is not what is important, but the existence of giants per se is important.
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And you cant find the skeletons because goverments hide the truth to fools that believe in a theory that doesnt have proofs to validate its claims?

Show me proof of any species that change to another species?
Yeah, thats right there`s not even one, but in this case evolutionists dont care the museum cant show them proof...
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Agreed. They use the excuse that over millions of years the organisms changed. LOL!

Let me make an analogy here. If you walk into an automotive wrecking yard and see vehicles there from the 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's, 2000's, and 2010's, there is obvious evolution of automotive technology. However, the evolution happened due to the design and planning of engineers. The cars didn't change from one design to another by themselves. The same holds true for humans. If the fossil record is true, it was because someone designed and planned those creatures.
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Not going either way, but that is a BAD analogy. We're biological systems that grow and reproduce (potential change/improvement under own systems), while cars are non-living material objects that require something outside of them to change their systems/functions.
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what year was those news came from?
"So you mean to say they've taken what we thought we think and make us think we thought our thoughts we've been thinking our thoughts we think we thought?"
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what year was those news came from?
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I think 1919.
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No pics....als always

bsflag as always

1Star is too much
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No pics....als always

bsflag as always

1Star is too much
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Yes the article from the New York times 100 years ago is lacking pictures. However, A near by college actually took part in the recovery process and it was well documented. Many intelligent people saw and measured the bones, which were never seen or heard of again after having been collected by the "officials." I have seen some photos while researching the event as well.

Obviously there was some cover up. Even more interesting is that there were several such events of giants remains being discovered and then disappearing in the hands of the experts.

Simple fact of where is any photo of the remains of the Mayan king Lord Pakal, says it all. A mayan king that was a giant with an elongated skull.. no biggie. We will take there word for whatever. .
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[link to www.patheos.com]
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Funny. Weekly world news story. ..but seriously, the o.p.'s report was actually made by the New York Times. For real. Because actually, it happened.
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Disproves evolution in one second. That is why this is hidden.
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Disproves evolution in one second. That is why this is hidden.
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Yes, man! The truth is simple.
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Naw, our governments wouldn't hide anything from us, now would they??

Thread: Documents from 1840 seized by government and destroyed, town pissed off!
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thats before the jews took over the media...good ol days
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Holy Cow! I've been lurking here for a while, but this post made me have to make an account and reply. I've been fishing on Lake Delavan three times! It's so crazy to think that these giants were so close. I had no idea.
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Didn't read the whole thread so someone may have already mentioned this, but I'm convinced these giants were real. I'm not sure if they're related to the nephilim as mentioned in the bible, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Nice post OP!
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Holy shit. The amount of ignorance here is ridiculous.


I don't know anything about giants, but please approach this with a little rationality.

[link to query.nytimes.com]
[link to query.nytimes.com]

How finding these automatically makes it true is way beyond me. Do some fucking fact checking, and I don't mean go on youtube and pull up some video. Find some verifiable sources, and then you can yell at others for being wrong. OP, the way you and others are coming off in this thread is counterproductive to any kind of information sharing (you might as well not have even posted this)

If you keep calling people 'stupid' for their beliefs (ESPECIALLY if it's due to being, as you believe to be, misinformed - on top of that, what you believe is no more provable), you're going to farther divide everyone.

And something I'm sure we can all agree on is that the division is what the TPTB wants the most.
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oh, dont make me cry...
c`mon man what do you want?
You want me to say the Bible its a lie and evolution its truth just to agree with people that is BLIND TO THE TRUTH?
dont fool yourself, it was I that was called stupid for being a creationist, so I ask:

Evolucionists believe in a theory that doesnt have a single proof of a evolution from one species to the other, NOT EVEN ONE!

Not even one skeleton of a intermediate species, NOT EVEN ONE!

In millions of years theres NOT EVEN ONE!
and:
The mathematical probability for evolution is 0%!

And you want me to agree with people that believe in a NONSENSE like the THEORY OF EVOLUTION?

If creationists are stupid what should we say about evolucionists...

Wake up man!
 Quoting: 3373


Species is a man made term.....

and what do you mean by intermediate skeleton? you aren't one of those creatards that think evolution is half half animals right..?

and by your words, the platypus would be a perfect example of evolution anyway..
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It's my firm belief that all fairy tales are for the purpose of passing on esoteric knowledge. Whenever I've bothered to look into a fairy tale, I've discovered some surprising things.

For instance - the story of Jack and the bean stalk had, according to things I've read, been an oral tradition long before it had been written down.

And, (just to illustrate what I mean by certain ideas being connected), we have a bean stalk, (ladder) that transports Jack, (Jacob) to the kingdom of giants, (angels?).

In many things that I've read over the past few decades, angels are always described as being gigantic.

The story of Jack and the bean stalk is taught as a fairy tale. But why are there so many stories that reference ladders, towers, and other such constructs for reaching heaven? It makes one wonder if things that we've always thought of as metaphors could have some basis of reality to them.
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how are the NY GIANTS doing this year , anyone know???
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how are the NY GIANTS doing this year , anyone know???
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After an 0-6 start they won seven of the last ten games, and failed to make the playoffs. A terrible offensive line was a major problem. Tom Brady was quoted "at least I won't have to face Manning in the post season".

A few good draft picks, a free agent on the O-Line, and a new Offensive coordinator should have them at 10-6 next year.
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