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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38213543 United States 01/15/2014 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone goes to the afterlife when their body dies. Yes it is another dimension, various planes surrounding the earth. This earth is our soul's birth place, where we get our start, and growth continues in the very real dimensions of the afterlife. That's just the way it is. [link to www.thegreatquestion.com] |
Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 52805315 Israel 01/15/2014 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone goes to the afterlife when their body dies. Yes it is another dimension, various planes surrounding the earth. This earth is our soul's birth place, where we get our start, and growth continues in the very real dimensions of the afterlife. That's just the way it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38213543 [link to www.thegreatquestion.com] yes... but those who are righteous will return in the resurrection - to live here!!! and not in another dimension |
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Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 52805315 Israel 01/15/2014 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sounds very jehova witness-ish... ya, so what, everybody is going to be magically reanimated from a rotted corpse or a bunch of ashes??? ... give your head a shake Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45546943 fuck them. I am a jew! the original faith... not the rest of them wannabes. yes the dead (not all, only the righteous) are going to resurrect and live here in heaven on earth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15740069 United States 01/15/2014 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sounds very jehova witness-ish... ya, so what, everybody is going to be magically reanimated from a rotted corpse or a bunch of ashes??? ... give your head a shake Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45546943 The Resurrection. Jesus has the Power of the Grail. It is the Elixir of Longevity. The Philosopher Stone. The Ankh is the Key of Life. He Promised us Eternal Life. |
Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 52805315 Israel 01/15/2014 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sounds very jehova witness-ish... ya, so what, everybody is going to be magically reanimated from a rotted corpse or a bunch of ashes??? ... give your head a shake Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45546943 The Resurrection. Jesus has the Power of the Grail. It is the Elixir of Longevity. The Philosopher Stone. The Ankh is the Key of Life. He Promised us Eternal Life. I don't want to debate on weather jesus this jesus that but ill just had that the eternal life will be right here upon this earth! after the coming of moshiach the resurrection and tikkun olam all diseased will be eliminated and death will be a thing of the past. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 15740069 United States 01/15/2014 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Revelation 11:15 Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever.” Revelation 21:1-27 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” Revelation 20:4-6 ESV Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years. |
Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 52805315 Israel 01/15/2014 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Revelation 11:15 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069 Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he shall reign forever and ever.” Revelation 21:1-27 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Behold, the dwelling place of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them as their God. He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.” And he who was seated on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” Also he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.” Revelation 20:4-6 ESV Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years. and your point is? all I see is that its going to take place here! and no one is going to be teleported to another dimension to live with the angels among the clouds. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3793971 United States 01/15/2014 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jesus isn't going to take you to another dimension, celestial heaven in the clouds or whatever you want to call it! Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 you got it all wrong! G-d created this world because this world was to be paradise! as the lubavitcher rebbe said "sechina was in the lowers (physical realm)" so its not about being transported to another dimension! its about bringing heaven to here! why do you think the dead are going to be resurrected? so they could be transported to heaven? no... that's silly! they are going to be resurrected so they could live in heaven on earth! its about fixing this world and restoring it to paradise state! tikkun olam! restoring the main irrigation system of the planet - heavenly dew. fixing the position of the planets and fixing the seasons. removing the curses from the land so all trees would bare fruits again, and the roses wouldn't have thorns as it once was. and what excites me the most is restoring our ability to spiritually communicate with crystals. Which means earth will move up into a higher dimension? I think it's in the process. It's all about frequency, huh? |
Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 52805315 Israel 01/15/2014 12:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jesus isn't going to take you to another dimension, celestial heaven in the clouds or whatever you want to call it! Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 you got it all wrong! G-d created this world because this world was to be paradise! as the lubavitcher rebbe said "sechina was in the lowers (physical realm)" so its not about being transported to another dimension! its about bringing heaven to here! why do you think the dead are going to be resurrected? so they could be transported to heaven? no... that's silly! they are going to be resurrected so they could live in heaven on earth! its about fixing this world and restoring it to paradise state! tikkun olam! restoring the main irrigation system of the planet - heavenly dew. fixing the position of the planets and fixing the seasons. removing the curses from the land so all trees would bare fruits again, and the roses wouldn't have thorns as it once was. and what excites me the most is restoring our ability to spiritually communicate with crystals. Which means earth will move up into a higher dimension? I think it's in the process. It's all about frequency, huh? sort of... we will be retuned to new frequencies. but the point is that its going to take place here. |
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Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 52805315 Israel 01/15/2014 12:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | will the magically reconstructed and reanimated corpses just appear like "POOF"--- or will the reanimated dead crawl out from their original graves???... cuz that would be badass Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45546943 original graves as prophesized by Ezekiel and Daniel With the hand of Adonai upon me, Adonai carried me out by his Spirit and set me down in the middle of the valley, and it was full of bones. 2 He had me pass by all around them — there were so many bones lying in the valley, and they were so dry! 3 He asked me, “Human being, can these bones live?” I answered, “Adonai Elohim! Only you know that!” 4 Then he said to me, “Prophesy over these bones! Say to them, ‘Dry bones! Hear what Adonai has to say! 5 To these bones Adonai Elohim says, “I will make breath enter you, and you will live. 6 I will attach ligaments to you, make flesh grow on you, cover you with skin and put breath in you. You will live, and you will know that I am Adonai.”’” 7 So I prophesied as ordered; and while I was prophesying, there was a noise, a rattling sound; it was the bones coming together, each bone in its proper place. 8 As I watched, ligaments grew on them, flesh appeared and skin covered them; but there was no breath in them. 9 Next he said to me, “Prophesy to the breath! Prophesy, human being! Say to the breath that Adonai Elohim says, ‘Come from the four winds, breath; and breathe on these slain, so that they can live.’” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45546943 Canada 01/15/2014 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | will the magically reconstructed and reanimated corpses just appear like "POOF"--- or will the reanimated dead crawl out from their original graves???... cuz that would be badass Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45546943 original graves as prophesized by Ezekiel and Daniel With the hand of Adonai upon me, Adonai carried me out by his Spirit and set me down in the middle of the valley, and it was full of bones. 2 He had me pass by all around them — there were so many bones lying in the valley, and they were so dry! 3 He asked me, “Human being, can these bones live?” I answered, “Adonai Elohim! Only you know that!” 4 Then he said to me, “Prophesy over these bones! Say to them, ‘Dry bones! Hear what Adonai has to say! 5 To these bones Adonai Elohim says, “I will make breath enter you, and you will live. 6 I will attach ligaments to you, make flesh grow on you, cover you with skin and put breath in you. You will live, and you will know that I am Adonai.”’” 7 So I prophesied as ordered; and while I was prophesying, there was a noise, a rattling sound; it was the bones coming together, each bone in its proper place. 8 As I watched, ligaments grew on them, flesh appeared and skin covered them; but there was no breath in them. 9 Next he said to me, “Prophesy to the breath! Prophesy, human being! Say to the breath that Adonai Elohim says, ‘Come from the four winds, breath; and breathe on these slain, so that they can live.’” original graves???...badass... ok, so what about those who were cremated and their ashes are up on the mantle like uncle bob's... he was totally righteous, so will he like squeeze out of the top of the urn, or will he come crawling out from the oven down at that crematorium??? cuz i wanna get a webcam set up... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2712120 United States 01/15/2014 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone goes to the afterlife when their body dies. Yes it is another dimension, various planes surrounding the earth. This earth is our soul's birth place, where we get our start, and growth continues in the very real dimensions of the afterlife. That's just the way it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38213543 [link to www.thegreatquestion.com] Umm, no. Our souls have existed FOREVER, and we will return to forever when we complete our mission on this earth. |
Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 52805315 Israel 01/15/2014 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | will the magically reconstructed and reanimated corpses just appear like "POOF"--- or will the reanimated dead crawl out from their original graves???... cuz that would be badass Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45546943 original graves as prophesized by Ezekiel and Daniel With the hand of Adonai upon me, Adonai carried me out by his Spirit and set me down in the middle of the valley, and it was full of bones. 2 He had me pass by all around them — there were so many bones lying in the valley, and they were so dry! 3 He asked me, “Human being, can these bones live?” I answered, “Adonai Elohim! Only you know that!” 4 Then he said to me, “Prophesy over these bones! Say to them, ‘Dry bones! Hear what Adonai has to say! 5 To these bones Adonai Elohim says, “I will make breath enter you, and you will live. 6 I will attach ligaments to you, make flesh grow on you, cover you with skin and put breath in you. You will live, and you will know that I am Adonai.”’” 7 So I prophesied as ordered; and while I was prophesying, there was a noise, a rattling sound; it was the bones coming together, each bone in its proper place. 8 As I watched, ligaments grew on them, flesh appeared and skin covered them; but there was no breath in them. 9 Next he said to me, “Prophesy to the breath! Prophesy, human being! Say to the breath that Adonai Elohim says, ‘Come from the four winds, breath; and breathe on these slain, so that they can live.’” original graves???...badass... ok, so what about those who were cremated and their ashes are up on the mantle like uncle bob's... he was totally righteous, so will he like squeeze out of the top of the urn, or will he come crawling out from the oven down at that crematorium??? cuz i wanna get a webcam set up... its G-d dude... it doesn't matter for him. the cremated ones the ashes of the luz bone (either coccyx of the spine or the one right below the neck) will be assembled from the ashes back into formation and from there the heavenly dew will take over and assemble a new body from the luz bone. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 52805315 Israel 01/15/2014 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Everyone goes to the afterlife when their body dies. Yes it is another dimension, various planes surrounding the earth. This earth is our soul's birth place, where we get our start, and growth continues in the very real dimensions of the afterlife. That's just the way it is. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 38213543 [link to www.thegreatquestion.com] Umm, no. Our souls have existed FOREVER, and we will return to forever when we complete our mission on this earth. not before the thousand years have been completed and the 7000 years countdown comes to an end. |
beebee User ID: 52705725 Canada 01/15/2014 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jesus isn't going to take you to another dimension, celestial heaven in the clouds or whatever you want to call it! Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 you got it all wrong! G-d created this world because this world was to be paradise! as the lubavitcher rebbe said "sechina was in the lowers (physical realm)" so its not about being transported to another dimension! its about bringing heaven to here! why do you think the dead are going to be resurrected? so they could be transported to heaven? no... that's silly! they are going to be resurrected so they could live in heaven on earth! its about fixing this world and restoring it to paradise state! tikkun olam! restoring the main irrigation system of the planet - heavenly dew. fixing the position of the planets and fixing the seasons. removing the curses from the land so all trees would bare fruits again, and the roses wouldn't have thorns as it once was. and what excites me the most is restoring our ability to spiritually communicate with crystals. I thought the bible says "The kingdom of God/Heaven is within you." Are you trying to tell us that "resurrection" means dead bodies are going to rise out of the graves/dirt? You are insane!!!! When are you going to realize the body is NOT who you are??!!! Tell me, where are the bodies of the people who were vaporized at Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Have you ever tried to rationalize what you believe? THINK!!! Do you honestly think there is enough room on this planet to accommodate every single dead and living body that has ever lived on this planet? beebee |
Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 52805315 Israel 01/15/2014 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | jesus isn't going to take you to another dimension, celestial heaven in the clouds or whatever you want to call it! Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 you got it all wrong! G-d created this world because this world was to be paradise! as the lubavitcher rebbe said "sechina was in the lowers (physical realm)" so its not about being transported to another dimension! its about bringing heaven to here! why do you think the dead are going to be resurrected? so they could be transported to heaven? no... that's silly! they are going to be resurrected so they could live in heaven on earth! its about fixing this world and restoring it to paradise state! tikkun olam! restoring the main irrigation system of the planet - heavenly dew. fixing the position of the planets and fixing the seasons. removing the curses from the land so all trees would bare fruits again, and the roses wouldn't have thorns as it once was. and what excites me the most is restoring our ability to spiritually communicate with crystals. I thought the bible says "The kingdom of God/Heaven is within you." Are you trying to tell us that "resurrection" means dead bodies are going to rise out of the graves/dirt? You are insane!!!! When are you going to realize the body is NOT who you are??!!! Tell me, where are the bodies of the people who were vaporized at Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Have you ever tried to rationalize what you believe? THINK!!! Do you honestly think there is enough room on this planet to accommodate every single dead and living body that has ever lived on this planet? my bible doesn't say that... but heaven inside us is jewish teaching which was taught in yeshiva schools long before jesus. it doesn't contradict the physical manifestation of heaven on earth. it goes together!!! we are to manifest the heaven inside us outwardly and establish heaven on earth! so far we have been manifesting hell. |
beebee User ID: 52705725 Canada 01/15/2014 01:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sounds very jehova witness-ish... ya, so what, everybody is going to be magically reanimated from a rotted corpse or a bunch of ashes??? ... give your head a shake Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45546943 fuck them. I am a jew! the original faith... not the rest of them wannabes. yes the dead (not all, only the righteous) are going to resurrect and live here in heaven on earth. You mean the original mind controlled people. beebee |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 45546943 Canada 01/15/2014 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | will the magically reconstructed and reanimated corpses just appear like "POOF"--- or will the reanimated dead crawl out from their original graves???... cuz that would be badass Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45546943 original graves as prophesized by Ezekiel and Daniel With the hand of Adonai upon me, Adonai carried me out by his Spirit and set me down in the middle of the valley, and it was full of bones. 2 He had me pass by all around them — there were so many bones lying in the valley, and they were so dry! 3 He asked me, “Human being, can these bones live?” I answered, “Adonai Elohim! Only you know that!” 4 Then he said to me, “Prophesy over these bones! Say to them, ‘Dry bones! Hear what Adonai has to say! 5 To these bones Adonai Elohim says, “I will make breath enter you, and you will live. 6 I will attach ligaments to you, make flesh grow on you, cover you with skin and put breath in you. You will live, and you will know that I am Adonai.”’” 7 So I prophesied as ordered; and while I was prophesying, there was a noise, a rattling sound; it was the bones coming together, each bone in its proper place. 8 As I watched, ligaments grew on them, flesh appeared and skin covered them; but there was no breath in them. 9 Next he said to me, “Prophesy to the breath! Prophesy, human being! Say to the breath that Adonai Elohim says, ‘Come from the four winds, breath; and breathe on these slain, so that they can live.’” original graves???...badass... ok, so what about those who were cremated and their ashes are up on the mantle like uncle bob's... he was totally righteous, so will he like squeeze out of the top of the urn, or will he come crawling out from the oven down at that crematorium??? cuz i wanna get a webcam set up... its G-d dude... it doesn't matter for him. the cremated ones the ashes of the luz bone (either coccyx of the spine or the one right below the neck) will be assembled from the ashes back into formation and from there the heavenly dew will take over and assemble a new body from the luz bone. [link to en.wikipedia.org] ok, sweet... reassembled luz bone... add heavenly dew... new body assembled....got it... any idea why the luz bone has to be reassembled first before the heavenly dew takes over??? |
Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 (OP) User ID: 52805315 Israel 01/15/2014 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 original graves as prophesized by Ezekiel and Daniel With the hand of Adonai upon me, Adonai carried me out by his Spirit and set me down in the middle of the valley, and it was full of bones. 2 He had me pass by all around them — there were so many bones lying in the valley, and they were so dry! 3 He asked me, “Human being, can these bones live?” I answered, “Adonai Elohim! Only you know that!” 4 Then he said to me, “Prophesy over these bones! Say to them, ‘Dry bones! Hear what Adonai has to say! 5 To these bones Adonai Elohim says, “I will make breath enter you, and you will live. 6 I will attach ligaments to you, make flesh grow on you, cover you with skin and put breath in you. You will live, and you will know that I am Adonai.”’” 7 So I prophesied as ordered; and while I was prophesying, there was a noise, a rattling sound; it was the bones coming together, each bone in its proper place. 8 As I watched, ligaments grew on them, flesh appeared and skin covered them; but there was no breath in them. 9 Next he said to me, “Prophesy to the breath! Prophesy, human being! Say to the breath that Adonai Elohim says, ‘Come from the four winds, breath; and breathe on these slain, so that they can live.’” original graves???...badass... ok, so what about those who were cremated and their ashes are up on the mantle like uncle bob's... he was totally righteous, so will he like squeeze out of the top of the urn, or will he come crawling out from the oven down at that crematorium??? cuz i wanna get a webcam set up... its G-d dude... it doesn't matter for him. the cremated ones the ashes of the luz bone (either coccyx of the spine or the one right below the neck) will be assembled from the ashes back into formation and from there the heavenly dew will take over and assemble a new body from the luz bone. [link to en.wikipedia.org] ok, sweet... reassembled luz bone... add heavenly dew... new body assembled....got it... any idea why the luz bone has to be reassembled first before the heavenly dew takes over??? actually no, but our traditions say its from the luz bone that the new body will emerge. |
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