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The Koch brothers seek PAID SHILLS to help them buy the 2014 elections

 
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Watch the documentary "Gasland" and educate yourself a little bit on fracking and how it's killing animals, people and natural water sources and then tell me there should be no environmental regulations Moran.
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LOL! [link to www.breitbart.com]

[link to www.realclearpolitics.com]

[link to blog.heritage.org]

A new film starring Matt Damon presents American oil and natural gas producers as money-grubbing villains purportedly poisoning rural American towns. It is therefore of particular note that it is financed in part by the royal family of the oil-rich United Arab Emirates.

The creators of Promised Land have gone to absurd lengths to vilify oil and gas companies, as Scribe’s Michael Sandoval noted Wednesday. Since recent events have demonstrated the relative environmental soundness of hydraulic fracturing – a technique for extracting oil and gas from shale formations – Promised Land’s script has been altered to make doom-saying environmentalists the tools of oil companies attempting to discredit legitimate “fracking” concerns.

While left-leaning Hollywood often targets supposed environmental evildoers, Promised Land was also produced “in association with” Image Media Abu Dhabi, a subsidiary of Abu Dhabi Media, according to the preview’s list of credits. A spokesperson with DDA Public Relations, which runs PR for Participant Media, the company that developed the film fund backing Promised Land, confirmed that AD Media is a financier. The company is wholly owned by the government of the UAE.


specialstupid
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Next summer take a visit to Montana and enquire where the best prairie dog hunting is and whilst you have them engaged ask about the water table being ruined with petroleum. not square miles - counties.
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I googled for information but the issue is whether to trust them that they actually did do actual science work, not make up crap like they did with CO2, Saturated fat, Sun is bad for you, and so on.
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If you think MSM is going to bite the hand that feeds it don't wait for that. At least pack a lunch. Some of the best prairie dogging in Montana [link to www.ultimateprairiedoghunting.com] for a few. the flatland in the NE would be a good place to start if you want to make a documentary. Ranches that now have $hit resale and even though they have a drinking water filter they have to bathe in the stuff plus if they do not have a creek (surface water) for the stock they are double hosed. Welcome to Amerika
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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What are they paying?
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Valid point....they are also creating jobs.....unlike Obama.

kewlman
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Valid point....they are also creating jobs.....unlike Obama.

kewlman
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If digging the cemetery plot for your family is employment then get in the line.
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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Koch Brothers funded groups pay in the neighborhood
of $1000 - $5000 PER WEEK, depending on how
effective you're shilling efforts are percieved
by the groups they fund.
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Valid point....they are also creating jobs.....unlike Obama.

kewlman
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If digging the cemetery plot for your family is employment then get in the line.
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That makes no sense.
Koch brothers are Conservatives.


Get in the line for SOROS "groupthink and big government" if that is what you want. dead3

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Koch Brothers funded groups pay in the neighborhood
of $1000 - $5000 PER WEEK, depending on how
effective you're shilling efforts are percieved
by the groups they fund.
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you see when you read what the book says about practicing deception, to shill, to lie to your brother or sister, is WITCHCRAFT. It is a major no no and earns you an F.
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What are they paying?
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Valid point....they are also creating jobs.....unlike Obama.

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YEAH. West Virginia has more jobs today than last week thanks to a chemical spill in a river upstream from
a water plant.
Next comes Cincinatti.
Thanks Freedom Industries!
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What are they paying?
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Valid point....they are also creating jobs.....unlike Obama.

kewlman
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YEAH. West Virginia has more jobs today than last week thanks to a chemical spill in a river upstream from
a water plant.
Next comes Cincinatti.
Thanks Freedom Industries!
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They bought an interest in that place.....like many people do with many other businesses.
So somehow, in your small mind, they directly forced the idiots at the plant to spill shit everywhere?

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What are they paying?
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Valid point....they are also creating jobs.....unlike Obama.

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If digging the cemetery plot for your family is employment then get in the line.
 Quoting: Kirk


That makes no sense.
Koch brothers are Conservatives.


Get in the line for SOROS "groupthink and big government" if that is what you want. dead3

:soross:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Koch Industries, whoolly owned by the Koch Brothers are POLLUTERS.
Their OWN website
[link to www.kochind.com]
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Valid point....they are also creating jobs.....unlike Obama.

kewlman
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YEAH. West Virginia has more jobs today than last week thanks to a chemical spill in a river upstream from
a water plant.
Next comes Cincinatti.
Thanks Freedom Industries!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52937933


They bought an interest in that place.....like many people do with many other businesses.
So somehow, in your small mind, they directly forced the idiots at the plant to spill shit everywhere?

norespect
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bump
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What are they paying?
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Valid point....they are also creating jobs.....unlike Obama.

:kewlman:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater



YEAH. West Virginia has more jobs today than last week thanks to a chemical spill in a river upstream from
a water plant.
Next comes Cincinatti.
Thanks Freedom Industries!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52937933


They bought an interest in that place.....like many people do with many other businesses.
So somehow, in your small mind, they directly forced the idiots at the plant to spill shit everywhere?

norespect
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"They" who?
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Valid point....they are also creating jobs.....unlike Obama.

kewlman
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YEAH. West Virginia has more jobs today than last week thanks to a chemical spill in a river upstream from
a water plant.
Next comes Cincinatti.
Thanks Freedom Industries!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52937933


They bought an interest in that place.....like many people do with many other businesses.
So somehow, in your small mind, they directly forced the idiots at the plant to spill shit everywhere?

norespect
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"They" who?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52937933


Who are we talking about in this thread?

A.D.D. much? wtf
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Whaaaaaaa, whaaaaaaaa, George Soros has competition, whaaaaaaaa, whaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

owhine
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actually doofus these guys have more money than 5 Soros

shove your head up your ass a little further robot
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Whaaaaaaa, whaaaaaaaa, George Soros has competition, whaaaaaaaa, whaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

owhine
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actually doofus these guys have more money than 5 Soros

shove your head up your ass a little further robot
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[link to www.opensecrets.org]

David and Charles Koch are tied at No. 24 on Forbes top billionaires list with a personal fortunes of $17.5 billion each. Soros is No. 35 on the list with a net worth of $14 billion
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The Koch bros. are libertarian. As a conservative, I don't always agree with them, but most of the country---especially the young--are moving in this direction.

Frankly, we need to get the commies out of power, whoever can get that done has my support.
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What are they paying?
 Quoting: Ontheverge


Valid point....they are also creating jobs.....unlike Obama.

kewlman
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YEAH. West Virginia has more jobs today than last week thanks to a chemical spill in a river upstream from
a water plant.
Next comes Cincinatti.
Thanks Freedom Industries!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52937933


They bought an interest in that place.....like many people do with many other businesses.
So somehow, in your small mind, they directly forced the idiots at the plant to spill shit everywhere?

norespect
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


No but a week later would be suspicious, no?
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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Freedom Industries was founded in 1992 by Gary Southern, and Carl L. Kennedy II.
On December 31, 2013,

The Gazette identifies the co-founder as Carl Lemley Kennedy II. The Gazette also states that Kennedy, "In 1987 ... pleaded guilty to selling between 10 and 12 ounces of cocaine in connection with a scandal that toppled then-Charleston Mayor Mike Roark." He eventually got his sentence reduced for his company related felonies by becoming a government informant to entrap cocaine dealers.

Freedom Industries merged with three other companies, Etowah River Terminal, Poca Blending, and Crete Technologies.
Southern remains as president of the newly formed company.
The company distributes chemicals used in coal mining and is a distributor for Georgia-Pacific.
Georgia-Pacific is in turn owned by Koch Industries.

Freedom Industries, the company responsible for contaminating the water of 300,000 Kanawha Valley residents, was founded by a two-time convicted felon, benefited from the 2009 federal stimulus and at least two of its executives have longstanding ties to the Charleston business community.

Since the chemical spill on Thursday, Freedom Industries executives have entirely avoided media requests, except for a brief news conference Friday night.

On Sunday morning, Charles Ryan Associates, a prominent Charleston public relations firm hired by Freedom, abruptly dropped the chemical distributor as a client.
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Whaaaaaaa, whaaaaaaaa, George Soros has competition, whaaaaaaaa, whaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

owhine
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actually doofus these guys have more money than 5 Soros

shove your head up your ass a little further robot
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No, you stfu shill
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YEAH. West Virginia has more jobs today than last week thanks to a chemical spill in a river upstream from
a water plant.
Next comes Cincinatti.
Thanks Freedom Industries!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52937933


They bought an interest in that place.....like many people do with many other businesses.
So somehow, in your small mind, they directly forced the idiots at the plant to spill shit everywhere?

norespect
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


"They" who?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52937933


Who are we talking about in this thread?

A.D.D. much? wtf
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I think he knows more about the Koch brothers than I imagined.
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Whaaaaaaa, whaaaaaaaa, George Soros has competition, whaaaaaaaa, whaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

owhine
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actually doofus these guys have more money than 5 Soros

shove your head up your ass a little further robot
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No, you stfu shill
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If both Koch brothers were one person, and they nearly are,
that one person would be the richest person in America by about 3 times over.
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Valid point....they are also creating jobs.....unlike Obama.

:kewlman:
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If digging the cemetery plot for your family is employment then get in the line.
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That makes no sense.
Koch brothers are Conservatives.


Get in the line for SOROS "groupthink and big government" if that is what you want. dead3

:soross:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Koch Industries, whoolly owned by the Koch Brothers are POLLUTERS.
Their OWN website
[link to www.kochind.com]
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Says who? The libtards? They've done of plenty dumb stuff. You fail.
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Valid point....they are also creating jobs.....unlike Obama.

kewlman
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If digging the cemetery plot for your family is employment then get in the line.
 Quoting: Kirk


That makes no sense.
Koch brothers are Conservatives.


Get in the line for SOROS "groupthink and big government" if that is what you want. dead3

:soross:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Koch Industries, whoolly owned by the Koch Brothers are POLLUTERS.
Their OWN website
[link to www.kochind.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52937933


You have 2 gold plated turds and you all think the intelligent option is to choose 1. Scuttle both of them.
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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The Koch bros. are libertarian. As a conservative, I don't always agree with them, but most of the country---especially the young--are moving in this direction.

Frankly, we need to get the commies out of power, whoever can get that done has my support.
 Quoting: Brevet


I don't know if I'd call them Libertarian...
...but they are somewhere between Conservative and Libertarian.....which is all good no matter how you slice it for the USA.

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The Koch bros. are libertarian. As a conservative, I don't always agree with them, but most of the country---especially the young--are moving in this direction.

Frankly, we need to get the commies out of power, whoever can get that done has my support.
 Quoting: Brevet


I don't know if I'd call them Libertarian...
...but they are somewhere between Conservative and Libertarian.....which is all good no matter how you slice it for the USA.
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libertarians are "live and let live"
koch brothers are "destroy the enemy"
AND they give all their donations to climate change deniers,
polluters, and REPUBLICANS
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Freedom Industries was founded in 1992 by Gary Southern, and Carl L. Kennedy II.
On December 31, 2013,

The Gazette identifies the co-founder as Carl Lemley Kennedy II. The Gazette also states that Kennedy, "In 1987 ... pleaded guilty to selling between 10 and 12 ounces of cocaine in connection with a scandal that toppled then-Charleston Mayor Mike Roark." He eventually got his sentence reduced for his company related felonies by becoming a government informant to entrap cocaine dealers.

Freedom Industries merged with three other companies, Etowah River Terminal, Poca Blending, and Crete Technologies.
Southern remains as president of the newly formed company.
The company distributes chemicals used in coal mining and is a distributor for Georgia-Pacific.
Georgia-Pacific is in turn owned by Koch Industries.

Freedom Industries, the company responsible for contaminating the water of 300,000 Kanawha Valley residents, was founded by a two-time convicted felon, benefited from the 2009 federal stimulus and at least two of its executives have longstanding ties to the Charleston business community.

Since the chemical spill on Thursday, Freedom Industries executives have entirely avoided media requests, except for a brief news conference Friday night.

On Sunday morning, Charles Ryan Associates, a prominent Charleston public relations firm hired by Freedom, abruptly dropped the chemical distributor as a client.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52937933



Serving as a symbolic poster child for corporations that both pollute and exploit employees, it is noteworthy to document what exactly Carl Lemley Kennedy II was found guilty of, according to the Gazette:

Kennedy filed for bankruptcy in 2005 after he was charged with tax evasion and willful failure to pay employees' withholdings to the government. He pleaded guilty to both charges in U.S. District Court in the Southern District of West Virginia.

He admitted that between 2000 and 2003, while he was the accountant for Freedom Industries, Poca Blending and New River Chemical Co., he withheld more than $1 million from employee paychecks that he never passed on to the federal government, according to court filings. He also owed more than $200,000 in state taxes.

"Carl L. Kennedy II took steps to conceal a large portion of his income from the Internal Revenue Service by, among other things, using his position as an accountant to ensure a W2 form was not filed in his name," the court document reads, "using corporate funds for his personal benefit and writing corporate checks to cash for his personal enrichment."
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The Koch bros. are libertarian. As a conservative, I don't always agree with them, but most of the country---especially the young--are moving in this direction.

Frankly, we need to get the commies out of power, whoever can get that done has my support.
 Quoting: Brevet


I don't know if I'd call them Libertarian...
...but they are somewhere between Conservative and Libertarian.....which is all good no matter how you slice it for the USA.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


libertarians are "live and let live"
koch brothers are "destroy the enemy"
AND they give all their donations to climate change deniers,
polluters, and REPUBLICANS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52937933


Nothing and NO ONE operates in vaccuum and can win an election.

You think you can defeat SOROS, his uber deep pockets, and his Socialist machine with no money???

Good luck with that.
UTOPIA DOESN'T EXIST.

Ron Paul proved that will never fly. (as good as he was)

tbtfron
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In 2008, Freedom Industries secured a contract to distribute a line of products called Talon that are used as a binder in coal processing, according to a news release issued at the time. Freedom distributed Talon to eight states, including West Virginia.

"We are excited to offer our customers inventive products like Talon that push past the status quo in coal recovery to bring profit and productivity benefits to mining preparation plants," Joshua Herzing, a Freedom executive, said in the press release.

Talon is made by Georgia-Pacific Chemicals LLC. Georgia-Pacific is owned by the billionaire industrialists Charles and David Koch.

[link to www.wvgazette.com]
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The Koch bros. are libertarian. As a conservative, I don't always agree with them, but most of the country---especially the young--are moving in this direction.

Frankly, we need to get the commies out of power, whoever can get that done has my support.
 Quoting: Brevet


I don't know if I'd call them Libertarian...
...but they are somewhere between Conservative and Libertarian.....which is all good no matter how you slice it for the USA.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


libertarians are "live and let live"
koch brothers are "destroy the enemy"
AND they give all their donations to climate change deniers,
polluters, and REPUBLICANS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52937933


Nothing and NO ONE operates in vaccuum and can win an election.

You think you can defeat SOROS, his uber deep pockets, and his Socialist machine with no money???

Good luck with that.
UTOPIA DOESN'T EXIST.

Ron Paul proved that will never fly. (as good as he was)

:tbtfron:
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But ole George Soros is holy and just, the Koch brothers are just evil!!!!!

blahblah5
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The Koch bros. are libertarian. As a conservative, I don't always agree with them, but most of the country---especially the young--are moving in this direction.

Frankly, we need to get the commies out of power, whoever can get that done has my support.
 Quoting: Brevet


I don't know if I'd call them Libertarian...
...but they are somewhere between Conservative and Libertarian.....which is all good no matter how you slice it for the USA.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


libertarians are "live and let live"
koch brothers are "destroy the enemy"
AND they give all their donations to climate change deniers,
polluters, and REPUBLICANS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52937933


what in hell is a climate change denier?
someone who denies there is change?
someone who denies mankind made the change with CO2?
someone who denies weather modification works?
fly the 2nd half of your banner their Sparky.
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The Koch bros. are libertarian. As a conservative, I don't always agree with them, but most of the country---especially the young--are moving in this direction.

Frankly, we need to get the commies out of power, whoever can get that done has my support.
 Quoting: Brevet


I don't know if I'd call them Libertarian...
...but they are somewhere between Conservative and Libertarian.....which is all good no matter how you slice it for the USA.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


libertarians are "live and let live"
koch brothers are "destroy the enemy"
AND they give all their donations to climate change deniers,
polluters, and REPUBLICANS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52937933


Horseshit. Democrats are the true deniers. You are fucking retard.

Climate change deniers, my ass.

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