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Chugiakian (OP) User ID: 28418127 United States 01/16/2014 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “What we are trying to do is to make a smartphone whose whole purpose is to protect users’ privacy,” said Phil Zimmerman, a renowned cryptographer and one of Silent Circle’s founders. [link to wearechange.org] Chugiakian |
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Dervish User ID: 52837162 Turkey 01/16/2014 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. For the simple reason it will not work. Gps/gprs position will give your position away. Your network or carrier is bugable. The number you call is bugable. All your calls get billed, and who you call,when you call etc are all known. How exactly does this protect your privacy? Unless you take the battery out and use it as a paperweight. The safe bet is to assume that you have no security or privacy in any communication. It is also the smart bet. I know enough to know that I know nothing |
Chugiakian (OP) User ID: 28418127 United States 01/16/2014 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. Quoting: Dervish For the simple reason it will not work. Gps/gprs position will give your position away. Your network or carrier is bugable. The number you call is bugable. All your calls get billed, and who you call,when you call etc are all known. How exactly does this protect your privacy? Unless you take the battery out and use it as a paperweight. The safe bet is to assume that you have no security or privacy in any communication. It is also the smart bet. burst my bubble….. at least this is an attempt to protect us from our tyrant owners Chugiakian |
digitalFoo User ID: 47658207 United States 01/17/2014 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Finally, to prevent remote hackers (NSA, etc) from using RF technology to access your device, a simple faraday cage ought to do the trick. In fact, these guys have already made one: [link to www.rfsafe.com] So, yes, I believe that it's not only possible, but in the near future I'd bet many manufacturers start looking at this a lot more closely. tl;dr With end to end encryption (open source/standards based) and a faraday cage, wireless devices could be a whole lot more secure. Of course, if the asshat carriers and ISPs give up their data on you, well... that's another story. 5 stars OP. This is important technology. Let's hope more manufacturers get on board and come up with some encryption standards so that we can live in a world where privacy is restored. Peace. |
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Chugiakian (OP) User ID: 28418127 United States 01/17/2014 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a very good start. What we really need are devices that offer end to end encryption, using wireless carrier services as a simple conduit. Having said that, a previous poster mentioned GPS. Well, if this phone does what it is supposed to do, one can simply turn OFF GPS. Of course, this doesn't help you at all if you're surfing the web, but with a Tor network compatible browser and VPN tunneling, the odds get a lot better in our favor. They would have to be VERY interested in you and make a concerted effort to get your info/data. Metadata and simple "collection" techniques would no longer be trivial for these guys. Quoting: digitalFoo Finally, to prevent remote hackers (NSA, etc) from using RF technology to access your device, a simple faraday cage ought to do the trick. In fact, these guys have already made one: [link to www.rfsafe.com] So, yes, I believe that it's not only possible, but in the near future I'd bet many manufacturers start looking at this a lot more closely. tl;dr With end to end encryption (open source/standards based) and a faraday cage, wireless devices could be a whole lot more secure. Of course, if the asshat carriers and ISPs give up their data on you, well... that's another story. 5 stars OP. This is important technology. Let's hope more manufacturers get on board and come up with some encryption standards so that we can live in a world where privacy is restored. Peace. Thanks, What if the design of the phone was in fact itself a faraday cage? Chugiakian |
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digitalFoo User ID: 47658207 United States 01/17/2014 12:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a very good start. What we really need are devices that offer end to end encryption, using wireless carrier services as a simple conduit. Having said that, a previous poster mentioned GPS. Well, if this phone does what it is supposed to do, one can simply turn OFF GPS. Of course, this doesn't help you at all if you're surfing the web, but with a Tor network compatible browser and VPN tunneling, the odds get a lot better in our favor. They would have to be VERY interested in you and make a concerted effort to get your info/data. Metadata and simple "collection" techniques would no longer be trivial for these guys. Quoting: digitalFoo Finally, to prevent remote hackers (NSA, etc) from using RF technology to access your device, a simple faraday cage ought to do the trick. In fact, these guys have already made one: [link to www.rfsafe.com] So, yes, I believe that it's not only possible, but in the near future I'd bet many manufacturers start looking at this a lot more closely. tl;dr With end to end encryption (open source/standards based) and a faraday cage, wireless devices could be a whole lot more secure. Of course, if the asshat carriers and ISPs give up their data on you, well... that's another story. 5 stars OP. This is important technology. Let's hope more manufacturers get on board and come up with some encryption standards so that we can live in a world where privacy is restored. Peace. Thanks, What if the design of the phone was in fact itself a faraday cage? That's an interesting idea. However, the antennae would need to be external to this so that it can actually send and receive data. |
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Chugiakian (OP) User ID: 28418127 United States 01/17/2014 09:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks, Chug :) Quoting: KarinZa You are right, it is a start!!! Incidentally, Obummer's NSA Privacy Reform has been allll over the news this Friday morning!!!!! Lol, Obama is a Fox guarding the NSA henhouse! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Chugiakian |
Founders Fan User ID: 49976326 United States 01/17/2014 09:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | that's probably the best way to draw attention If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already. Bob Marley “The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government.” THOMAS PAINE (1737-1809) Do not pray for an easy life, pray for the strength to endure a difficult one. Bruce Lee |
Chugiakian (OP) User ID: 28418127 United States 01/17/2014 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks, Chug :) Quoting: KarinZa You are right, it is a start!!! Incidentally, Obummer's NSA Privacy Reform has been allll over the news this Friday morning!!!!! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Bottom line is the NSA is not spying on ordinary people…..unless you become a threat, then they can produce all of the digital data, they have collected on you for years! Then they will make you disappear, forever! Chugiakian |
Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 01/17/2014 09:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silent Circle – an encryption firm that has made it its mission to defy NSA snooping – is releasing what it says will be the world’s most secure smartphone. Quoting: Chugiakian [link to rt.com] So many morans out there. pfft. Note the operating system it runs on. Still think it's secure? Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 01/17/2014 09:54 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53076419 Jamaica 01/17/2014 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a very good start. What we really need are devices that offer end to end encryption, using wireless carrier services as a simple conduit. Having said that, a previous poster mentioned GPS. Well, if this phone does what it is supposed to do, one can simply turn OFF GPS. Of course, this doesn't help you at all if you're surfing the web, but with a Tor network compatible browser and VPN tunneling, the odds get a lot better in our favor. They would have to be VERY interested in you and make a concerted effort to get your info/data. Metadata and simple "collection" techniques would no longer be trivial for these guys. Quoting: digitalFoo Finally, to prevent remote hackers (NSA, etc) from using RF technology to access your device, a simple faraday cage ought to do the trick. In fact, these guys have already made one: [link to www.rfsafe.com] So, yes, I believe that it's not only possible, but in the near future I'd bet many manufacturers start looking at this a lot more closely. tl;dr With end to end encryption (open source/standards based) and a faraday cage, wireless devices could be a whole lot more secure. Of course, if the asshat carriers and ISPs give up their data on you, well... that's another story. 5 stars OP. This is important technology. Let's hope more manufacturers get on board and come up with some encryption standards so that we can live in a world where privacy is restored. Peace. Thanks, What if the design of the phone was in fact itself a faraday cage? That's an interesting idea. However, the antennae would need to be external to this so that it can actually send and receive data. Cellphone will not work inside a Faraday cage, derp. |
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KarinZa User ID: 43658232 United States 01/17/2014 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silent Circle – an encryption firm that has made it its mission to defy NSA snooping – is releasing what it says will be the world’s most secure smartphone. Quoting: Chugiakian [link to rt.com] So many morans out there. pfft. Note the operating system it runs on. Still think it's secure? Only 2 to choose from? Lol "I may be paranoid, but not an android." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 53077900 Australia 01/17/2014 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silent Circle – an encryption firm that has made it its mission to defy NSA snooping – is releasing what it says will be the world’s most secure smartphone. Quoting: Chugiakian [link to rt.com] So many morans out there. pfft. Note the operating system it runs on. Still think it's secure? :dasheep: I believe the encryption is actually hard circuitry based not just an app or software function of the android OS. But even still its pointless the NSA will crack it the first day it comes out. |
Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 01/17/2014 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silent Circle – an encryption firm that has made it its mission to defy NSA snooping – is releasing what it says will be the world’s most secure smartphone. Quoting: Chugiakian [link to rt.com] So many morans out there. pfft. Note the operating system it runs on. Still think it's secure? I believe the encryption is actually hard circuitry based not just an app or software function of the android OS. But even still its pointless the NSA will crack it the first day it comes out. It doesn't matter. The NSA is already into the hardware. You must have missed the numerous videos on this. |
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Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 01/17/2014 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guys, freakin finally a discussable topic Quoting: KarinZa without disclosing your answer, what is a good sms? like, hide the word, lol If it is digital.....odds are the NSA is all up in your sh*t. Nothing with modern digital "smart electronics" is safe....and you must always assume that. Case in point..... For The First Time, Hackers Have Used A Refrigerator To Attack Businesses [link to www.businessinsider.com] If they can do it....so can the NSA. NSA prefers to plant chips though at the manufacturer. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1689849 United States 01/17/2014 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at where we are right now. You are asking yourself if you need to be marketed an item that prevents surveillance. This is circular logic, if you accept the need for the a secure phone, then you've given the NSA victory. It's saying go ahead and keep doing what you're doing, I can just hide myself, until you find a way around it. None of this is necessary. You aren't in danger of the NSA. Don't fear them because that's what they want. But I'm just ranting, what we need is access to free energy that we as conscious and free beings are entitled too. Unlimited energy trumps any surveillance system. However organizations like the NSA stand between us and having access to free energy. They are part of something bigger, one control force among many. Pray that what is ours will be returned to us. A new age dawns. |
Useless Cookie Eater User ID: 29696048 United States 01/17/2014 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Technically yes....analog is easier to defeat them if you want to be really secure. ...but then you must talk in code since they are open channels on CB bands. ...and yes....I know you were kidding. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 01/17/2014 11:57 PM |
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