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Breaking! LIVE IED found on MADISON COUNTY, ILLINOIS RR Track! Why isn't this NATIONAL NEWS?

 
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Re: Breaking! LIVE IED found on MADISON COUNTY, ILLINOIS RR Track! Why isn't this NATIONAL NEWS?
How many train derailments have there been just in the last 3 or 4 months?

it seems like it's happening every week now

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OH...and this was on a RAILROAD TRACK and the FEDS were NOT contacted as of the press release...WHAT THE HECK?
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probably one of our own agencies put it there.
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Re: Breaking! LIVE IED found on MADISON COUNTY, ILLINOIS RR Track! Why isn't this NATIONAL NEWS?
This would not have caused much damage. We throw these propane cylinders in the campfire for fun.
WTF
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It would have caused enough damage to the track to cause a derailment. It is a considered an act of terror to place a bomb on RR tracks.
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No it would not have. That poster is correct. I have shot these small Coleman type propane cylinders with a gun before. Its not that big a deal.

OP you seriously need to lay off the crack or whatever is affecting you.

Minor improvised devices like this are a daily occurence for law enforcement.
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Because it is flares and a propane tank. Probably wouldn't have exploded. Very amateurish. Sounds like something a seventh-grade firebug with a bedwetting problem would dream up.
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Re: Breaking! LIVE IED found on MADISON COUNTY, ILLINOIS RR Track! Why isn't this NATIONAL NEWS?
This would not have caused much damage. We throw these propane cylinders in the campfire for fun.
WTF
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It would have caused enough damage to the track to cause a derailment. It is a considered an act of terror to place a bomb on RR tracks.
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No it would not have. That poster is correct. I have shot these small Coleman type propane cylinders with a gun before. Its not that big a deal.

OP you seriously need to lay off the crack or whatever is affecting you.

Minor improvised devices like this are a daily occurence for law enforcement.
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Did you ever get to to blow with a rifle?

Tried it twice as a teen. Once, the round went through the tank (this was a gas grill-type tank) leaving two rather neat holes. The other attempt was a propane torch tank and it flipped around rather nicely, but didn't blow.
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I suppose it is possible that the "IED" is a joke of a device so to speak. I mean if it is 12 ounces of pyrodex in a PVC pipe....lets be honest, it isn't a threat to a train. In such a case I'd suspect kids.

On the other hand if it is an 80 pound fertilizer bomb or thermite then I'd consider it a "federal" level incident.
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I don't know that we are EVER told the truth. This probably got leaked...TPTB in that area are just like Chicago...in fact...it is called mini-Chicago, that county. CORRUPT as all get out. There are only two counties outside of Chicago's Cook County that go blue in elections...Madison and St. Clair...that is it, most corrupt counties outside of Chicago, and the entire state always goes Dem.

There were other threats all over the area last week. It is very suspect to me that this would happen now. Kids usually hit schools, buses...I don't see a kid going after a RR track. IMO
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This would not have caused much damage. We throw these propane cylinders in the campfire for fun.
WTF
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It would have caused enough damage to the track to cause a derailment. It is a considered an act of terror to place a bomb on RR tracks.
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No it would not have. That poster is correct. I have shot these small Coleman type propane cylinders with a gun before. Its not that big a deal.

OP you seriously need to lay off the crack or whatever is affecting you.

Minor improvised devices like this are a daily occurence for law enforcement.
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FALSE. These are not DAILY occurrences for LE. You are shill. Explosives on RR tracks are not DAILY occurrences. YOU LIE.
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Re: Breaking! LIVE IED found on MADISON COUNTY, ILLINOIS RR Track! Why isn't this NATIONAL NEWS?
This would not have caused much damage. We throw these propane cylinders in the campfire for fun.
WTF
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It would have caused enough damage to the track to cause a derailment. It is a considered an act of terror to place a bomb on RR tracks.
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No it would not have. That poster is correct. I have shot these small Coleman type propane cylinders with a gun before. Its not that big a deal.

OP you seriously need to lay off the crack or whatever is affecting you.

Minor improvised devices like this are a daily occurence for law enforcement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52810235


FALSE. These are not DAILY occurrences for LE. You are shill. Explosives on RR tracks are not DAILY occurrences. YOU LIE.
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OK you can write whatever fiction you want.

You are pushing this so hard now that I'm starting to suspect that it is probably you that put it there and is now trying to get attention to it.

brb contacting FBI
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It would have caused enough damage to the track to cause a derailment. It is a considered an act of terror to place a bomb on RR tracks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49096500


No it would not have. That poster is correct. I have shot these small Coleman type propane cylinders with a gun before. Its not that big a deal.

OP you seriously need to lay off the crack or whatever is affecting you.

Minor improvised devices like this are a daily occurence for law enforcement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52810235


FALSE. These are not DAILY occurrences for LE. You are shill. Explosives on RR tracks are not DAILY occurrences. YOU LIE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49096500


OK you can write whatever fiction you want.

You are pushing this so hard now that I'm starting to suspect that it is probably you that put it there and is now trying to get attention to it.

brb contacting FBI
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Dude...it is about the RR tracks. Shill. Do you have any idea how many train derailments there have been in the past 18 months? AND...I never abandon a thread. hf
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NORFOLK???

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"EDWARDSVILLE — An live explosive device was found on railroad tracks near Illinois 140 Monday, but officials believe it would not have been strong enough to derail a train."

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Wow, good catch OP...

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I suppose it is possible that the "IED" is a joke of a device so to speak. I mean if it is 12 ounces of pyrodex in a PVC pipe....lets be honest, it isn't a threat to a train. In such a case I'd suspect kids.

On the other hand if it is an 80 pound fertilizer bomb or thermite then I'd consider it a "federal" level incident.
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so were pressure cookers...remember?
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Re: Breaking! LIVE IED found on MADISON COUNTY, ILLINOIS RR Track! Why isn't this NATIONAL NEWS?
Could've been a test run to test out a small device first. I agree a 1.2 lb propane tank won't derail a train, but 1.2 lbs of high explosives might.
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Wow, good catch OP...

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It would have caused enough damage to the track to cause a derailment. It is a considered an act of terror to place a bomb on RR tracks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49096500


No it would not have. That poster is correct. I have shot these small Coleman type propane cylinders with a gun before. Its not that big a deal.

OP you seriously need to lay off the crack or whatever is affecting you.

Minor improvised devices like this are a daily occurence for law enforcement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52810235


FALSE. These are not DAILY occurrences for LE. You are shill. Explosives on RR tracks are not DAILY occurrences. YOU LIE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49096500


OK you can write whatever fiction you want.

You are pushing this so hard now that I'm starting to suspect that it is probably you that put it there and is now trying to get attention to it.

brb contacting FBI
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Fucking idiot...

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Re: Breaking! LIVE IED found on MADISON COUNTY, ILLINOIS RR Track! Why isn't this NATIONAL NEWS?
Could've been a test run to test out a small device first. I agree a 1.2 lb propane tank won't derail a train, but 1.2 lbs of high explosives might.
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I don't know anything about explosives...I just watch all of the train stuff since I grew up by tracks. Our parents were always concerned about derailments and said it doesn't take much to derail a train.
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No it would not have. That poster is correct. I have shot these small Coleman type propane cylinders with a gun before. Its not that big a deal.

OP you seriously need to lay off the crack or whatever is affecting you.

Minor improvised devices like this are a daily occurence for law enforcement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52810235


FALSE. These are not DAILY occurrences for LE. You are shill. Explosives on RR tracks are not DAILY occurrences. YOU LIE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49096500


OK you can write whatever fiction you want.

You are pushing this so hard now that I'm starting to suspect that it is probably you that put it there and is now trying to get attention to it.

brb contacting FBI
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Fucking idiot...

:eyeroll:
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1rof1
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Funny how with relative ease any crazy person could sabotage a railway or water supply and yet all the large terror plots always get foiled or the bad guy screws up really bad, like Daffy Duck bad.

Apparently the Feds hang out in the jihad chatrooms 24/7 and always seem catch these guys. The Feds always find a bad guy, give him the location, give him the fake bomb, and then swoop in when nothing explodes.

Even the lone nut plots where the one bad guy hasn't even used a phone or email that could be intercepted by NSA evidently gets foiled. The NSA must be full of psychics!

I mean what are the chances of the Feds intercepting all these plots? 100% evidently. Wow, those guys are amazing!

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Funny how with relative ease any crazy person could sabotage a railway or water supply and yet all the large terror plots always get foiled or the bad guy screws up really bad, like Daffy Duck bad.

I mean what are the chances of the Feds intercepting all these plots? 100% evidently. Wow, those guys are amazing!

Apparently the Feds hang out in the jihad chatrooms 24/7 and always seem catch these guys. The Feds always find a bad guy, give him the location, give him the fake bomb, and then swoop in when nothing explodes.

tounge
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OH...and this was on a RAILROAD TRACK and the FEDS were NOT contacted as of the press release...WHAT THE HECK?
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probably one of our own agencies put it there.
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Re: Breaking! LIVE IED found on MADISON COUNTY, ILLINOIS RR Track! Why isn't this NATIONAL NEWS?
I suppose it is possible that the "IED" is a joke of a device so to speak. I mean if it is 12 ounces of pyrodex in a PVC pipe....lets be honest, it isn't a threat to a train. In such a case I'd suspect kids.

On the other hand if it is an 80 pound fertilizer bomb or thermite then I'd consider it a "federal" level incident.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52950231


I don't know that we are EVER told the truth. This probably got leaked...TPTB in that area are just like Chicago...in fact...it is called mini-Chicago, that county. CORRUPT as all get out. There are only two counties outside of Chicago's Cook County that go blue in elections...Madison and St. Clair...that is it, most corrupt counties outside of Chicago, and the entire state always goes Dem.

There were other threats all over the area last week. It is very suspect to me that this would happen now. Kids usually hit schools, buses...I don't see a kid going after a RR track. IMO
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It's tough to pick which county in IL is most corrupt, my vote would be Tazewell.


Those railroad guys drive the special trucks all the time on the rails I thought? Especially in this weather.

Who found this?
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Wouldn't put it past the railroad moguls to detonate a bit of track to get rid of old equipment through insurance claim. I mean, say you own a few skyscrapers in NY that require hundreds of millions in asbestos abatement? Why not over insure them for billions and fly a couple planes I to them? Blame terrorists and .gov will probably help you, possibly even pay you to help their agenda along at the same time.
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Thanks A/C,
Some people just don't get out much. These cylinders were on the tracks to create a nuisance, would do no damage.




This would not have caused much damage. We throw these propane cylinders in the campfire for fun.
WTF
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It would have caused enough damage to the track to cause a derailment. It is a considered an act of terror to place a bomb on RR tracks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49096500


No it would not have. That poster is correct. I have shot these small Coleman type propane cylinders with a gun before. Its not that big a deal.

OP you seriously need to lay off the crack or whatever is affecting you.

Minor improvised devices like this are a daily occurence for law enforcement.
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Re: Breaking! LIVE IED found on MADISON COUNTY, ILLINOIS RR Track! Why isn't this NATIONAL NEWS?
Its not news because it was made by a child.
In no wayswas that anything more than a destructive device to anything other than a pile of leaves or dried grasses.
not explosive
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I bet this is eco terrorist. I bet the cargo is eith coal or shale drilling related.
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Re: Breaking! LIVE IED found on MADISON COUNTY, ILLINOIS RR Track! Why isn't this NATIONAL NEWS?
How many train derailments have there been just in the last 3 or 4 months?

it seems like it's happening every week now

hiding
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Heres Dace's thread from last year. He compiled a bunch of them. There has been a ton of them this past year.
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It would have caused enough damage to the track to cause a derailment. It is a considered an act of terror to place a bomb on RR tracks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49096500


No it would not have. That poster is correct. I have shot these small Coleman type propane cylinders with a gun before. Its not that big a deal.

OP you seriously need to lay off the crack or whatever is affecting you.

Minor improvised devices like this are a daily occurence for law enforcement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52810235


FALSE. These are not DAILY occurrences for LE. You are shill. Explosives on RR tracks are not DAILY occurrences. YOU LIE.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49096500


OK you can write whatever fiction you want.

You are pushing this so hard now that I'm starting to suspect that it is probably you that put it there and is now trying to get attention to it.

brb contacting FBI
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Your full of shit. This is the heart of the Midwest these are for certain not daily occurances. Sometimes not even yearly ones.
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Re: Breaking! LIVE IED found on MADISON COUNTY, ILLINOIS RR Track! Why isn't this NATIONAL NEWS?
How many train derailments have there been just in the last 3 or 4 months?

it seems like it's happening every week now

hiding
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That should be conformation whats going on with these train derailments
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Re: Breaking! LIVE IED found on MADISON COUNTY, ILLINOIS RR Track! Why isn't this NATIONAL NEWS?
When I was a kid I use to put pennies on the track, but I have always wondered what a log splitting wedge would do... ?





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