Sandy Hook: Index of 911 calls | |
Dudeashaneo User ID: 32909022 United States 01/28/2014 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dudeashaneo Yeah your listening skills suck. LOL Just kidding. Do this for me. Listen to when Barbara is saying " Sandy Hook School ohhhhh" You hear heavy breathing that cannot be from her. It sounds to me like her last heavy outbreath turns into "oooh." Also when she's talking, the panting sounds are suspended; to me it sounds like all these noises are coming from Barbara. The last I hear of her voice is the "oooh," just before the click, just before Nute says "Barbara..." My frustration with your ears is being tested. heh The exhaling is louder than her distant voice. And the timing of the exhales do not work with her conversation. But you cannot hear the edits I pointed out either so I will leave it there. I will get my sound program out and do an analysis for you so you can see what I mean. In fact I just went over it again after letting it sit for awhile and it seems that it's pieced together a ton. Wow, I can now prove to you that Rick Thorne's 1st recording with Nute is a patchwork of edits. I focused mostly on this exchange because it seems the entire conversation is blended to fit all the major points in the police scanner feed that was released and Zephyr has gone to great lengths to archive. Wow just wow. I'm beginning to think that Hegarty's call was edited because it just doesn't make any sense. Early in the call, she's asking Natalie if she's ok, so obviously she can talk, then later in the call, she's all excited because now Natalie is breathing?? No sense. Also, when Hegarty asks if Natalie recognizes the gunman why didn't she say that she couldn't because he was wearing a mask? That call is full of fuckery. One thing to remember these are not calls. They are recordings. Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here? |
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dmhennen User ID: 2374240 United States 02/05/2014 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone is looking for the "official" death list of the victims, here it is: [link to www.pinterest.com] The names are all redacted in the police reports, but this is a clear pic that could be helpful. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53947708 United States 02/05/2014 04:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone is looking for the "official" death list of the victims, here it is: Quoting: dmhennen [link to www.pinterest.com] The names are all redacted in the police reports, but this is a clear pic that could be helpful. And a bigger version (from same page) in case it's helpful: [link to timemilitary.files.wordpress.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52036841 United States 02/10/2014 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i still have problem with 911 call. Quoting: Fred 53301007 how Roig could call 911 and lose her phone at same time? Her first 911 call was very early (one of the first three calls) at 9:36:37; she then calls back at 9:42:28. I had thought she was in the bathroom by the second call, but now I don't think she was, because she says "come over here" to one of the kids. I think she decided to go into the bathroom after this second call, when things were obviously getting very intense, and help wasn't coming yet. Obviously this is just all guesswork, but I think one possible scenario is that a shooter came in and took her phone--she was talking for quite a while, so maybe he/they heard it from Room 10? I always wondered why 911 operators didn't tell anyone to be quiet during this whole process. Roig [or whoever] was talking in a fairly distressed, shrill tone in the second call, and could, I think, have given away her position by doing this. Anyway, the fact she's so freaked out when cops finally come in may indicate that a guy had already come in and yanked her phone away earlier. Maybe, as someone suggested, he was even dressed like a cop. The shooting, as far as we can tell, stops around 9:41 and there is about a five minute break, after which it resumes again. Roig's (?) second call is during this break, and she's have been even easier to hear if one of the shooters was nearby. It makes good strategic sense for a shooter to take someone's cellphone, knowing it would be pinged; not sure why they wouldn't just take Rousseau's or Soto's, but maybe they didn't want a solid piece of physical evidence to connect them to a deceased person. If they take a living person's phone, technically it's not as incriminating, maybe? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52036841 United States 02/10/2014 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean, why would she keep yelling "I don't believe you" after the cops are kneeling in front of her trying to calm her down, you know? Who yells "I don't believe you're a cop," for no reason? Maybe she had a reason. Someone dressed like a cop that day could literally have walked around at the scene for hours and gone unnoticed. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 28736682 Canada 07/08/2014 07:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone is looking for the "official" death list of the victims, here it is: Quoting: dmhennen [link to www.pinterest.com] The names are all redacted in the police reports, but this is a clear pic that could be helpful. Which in itself is totally bizarre. Weren't all the victims' names already released long ago? What is the point in redacting that information in the police reports? Makes zero sense. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 60034899 United States 07/08/2014 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But that said, I have started to think it's Vicki or Lauren, too. The voice seems a bit higher than Roig's, but it's really hard to tell, and it's possible that she calls back a second time. That's only impossible if the official story is true; we know (imo) shots were still being fired as late as 9:46:54 a.m., so there's no guarantee any of those teachers perished before then. It's definitely one of the younger teachers, and I could swear that during the call she starts to say, "...the s[econd]" as in "the second classroom.]" But it's very, very quick, and could also be "...the [th]..." or even "...the [f]." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13829085 United States 07/09/2014 02:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A very, very important list--those who just received awards for the SH response: [link to news.hamlethub.com] Right off the bat--look at the list of dispatchers: M/Sgt. Kevin Rafferty OS Sgt. Michael Roach TFC Timothy Loomis TFC Richard Binkowski Sgt. Seth Mancini Dispatcher Betsy Brennan Dispatcher Mark Nadeau Dispatcher Karen Laprade Dispatcher Ryan Rigon Dispatcher John Gebauer Dispatcher Cynthia Dielemans Rigon? Gebauer? Dielemans? Who are these dispatchers and where are their calls/activity that day? We have only Brennan, Nadeau, Laprade, Loomis, Roach, and a handful from Binkowski. If they're getting awards, they were doing something important that day. Where are their calls? Followup question: Did NPD dispatcher Maureen Will take literally zero 911 calls that day? |
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Dudeashaneo User ID: 58693384 United States 07/09/2014 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A very, very important list--those who just received awards for the SH response: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13829085 [link to news.hamlethub.com] Right off the bat--look at the list of dispatchers: M/Sgt. Kevin Rafferty OS Sgt. Michael Roach TFC Timothy Loomis TFC Richard Binkowski Sgt. Seth Mancini Dispatcher Betsy Brennan Dispatcher Mark Nadeau Dispatcher Karen Laprade Dispatcher Ryan Rigon Dispatcher John Gebauer Dispatcher Cynthia Dielemans Rigon? Gebauer? Dielemans? Who are these dispatchers and where are their calls/activity that day? We have only Brennan, Nadeau, Laprade, Loomis, Roach, and a handful from Binkowski. If they're getting awards, they were doing something important that day. Where are their calls? Followup question: Did NPD dispatcher Maureen Will take literally zero 911 calls that day? Why awards? Of course to keep them quiet and in line. This is so easy to see. How could they possibly accept an award where THEY knew it was not real......cement the urban legend that's all this is. Missing calls? Edited calls? Of course. We are getting pretty close. Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 63027431 Uruguay 09/19/2014 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the frantic 911 call from the woman with the heavy accent may be Mërgim Bajraliu's mom--he said she was screaming and going crazy, and the 911 caller does indeed reference a daughter. Their calls came in very close together. Abt 2:44: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Also, remember him saying he at first worried that one of the children carried out of the school was his sister, because they both had long dark hair (the 911 caller is screaming about someone "seeing her daughter") |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44634499 United States 05/24/2015 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Moving 911 call topic from FOIA thread so I don't mess up that OP's work. Re inserting audio into a 911 call: The problem with inserting anything is that other transmissions are audible in the background of all 911 calls--police audio from three agencies (NPD, NFD/EMS, CSP), etc. There are some 911 calls where the following are all audible in one call: 1. Primary NPD dispatcher taking Call X 2. Background NPD dispatcher taking Call Y 3. Primary (transferring) CSP dispatcher transferring call X 4. Background CSP dispatchers taking other calls 5. NPD police audio playing on speaker in dispatch center 6. CSP police audio playing in spkr in CSP dispatch center In order to move any particular piece of 911 call audio, you'd have to account for (mess with) all of the above, in some cases. There is another way in which the calls in general can give more information than it would seem at first glance: play them all together, at the same time. Yes, some of it will be a cacophony (which actually helps convey a more accurate picture of the tension level inside the school), but in other places you can hear clear cause and effect that is otherwise hidden. For example, after a late gunshot (that's not supposed to be there and is audible only on the 911, not in the police audio), you can hear NPD immediately respond that the scene is not secure. In fact, the man who makes this transmission is most likely the man who fired the shot, Scott Smith. And after that same shot, the Room 9 callers suddenly go silent and refuse to talk above a whisper. Another female caller--the one whose call is chopped into 50+ pieces--is noticeably more stressed when her audio resumes (it's cut out at the moment of the shot). No liars are perfect. Sedensky and team were under big pressure to finish the report; there are thousands upon thousands of ways in which truth can seep through, and it is impossible for any legal team, no matter how dedicated, to catch them all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44634499 United States 05/24/2015 05:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the frantic 911 call from the woman with the heavy accent may be Mërgim Bajraliu's mom--he said she was screaming and going crazy, and the 911 caller does indeed reference a daughter. Their calls came in very close together. Abt 2:44: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63027431 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Also, remember him saying he at first worried that one of the children carried out of the school was his sister, because they both had long dark hair (the 911 caller is screaming about someone "seeing her daughter") I now thing the heavy-accent woman is Mrs. Salamy. She can be seen racing up the heavily-clogged Dickenson just after having made this call. She eventually finds her daughter, who was allegedly in Soto's classroom; in one photo you can see what looks like blood on the child's leggings. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73168783 United States 04/26/2017 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to civilinquiry.jud.ct.gov] "The Town admits that a staff member was shot in the leg and was able to return to Conference Room 9. The town denies that this staff member made a call to 9-1-1 or activated the school intercom system. The Town admits that 9-1-1 calls were made by staff members and that a person located in Conference Room 9 activated the school intercom system." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54499838 United States 04/27/2017 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This intercom thing is so, so important, now especially in light of what happened to the boy(s) within telephone range of Conference Room 9, i.e. right outside the Room 9 door. When police grilled children and staff as to what they had heard over the intercom, we originally thought it was to find out which parents of children throughout the entire school had a case for an emotional trauma lawsuit. It now seems just as likely that police needed to find out exactly who, if anyone, heard what police did to/with the boys in the north hallway. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 49821396 United States 04/28/2017 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also this: Dash cam 00055705_MVR_Part_1 (don't remember off hand whose it is), is micro-redacted at 9:50:06 a.m. Why would that be? The redaction lasts for all of one second. One second. Just what visual, exactly, could happen at that moment in the film that would need to be redacted--a visual lasting one second? Some new CSP kamikaze bird weapon flying through? Give me a break. It's a gunshot. Lo and behold, at that EXACT second, 9:50:06 a.m., there is a GUNSHOT audible in the 911 calls. We already had this at just the 911 calls--moments redacted out of the exact same timepoint across multiple calls--now we have those SAME, exact moments redacted out of the dash cams. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73614521 Costa Rica 04/29/2017 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also this: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49821396 Dash cam 00055705_MVR_Part_1 (don't remember off hand whose it is), is micro-redacted at 9:50:06 a.m. Why would that be? The redaction lasts for all of one second. One second. Just what visual, exactly, could happen at that moment in the film that would need to be redacted--a visual lasting one second? Some new CSP kamikaze bird weapon flying through? Give me a break. It's a gunshot. Lo and behold, at that EXACT second, 9:50:06 a.m., there is a GUNSHOT audible in the 911 calls. We already had this at just the 911 calls--moments redacted out of the exact same timepoint across multiple calls--now we have those SAME, exact moments redacted out of the dash cams. Exactly right. But remember, the dash cams are a few minutes off <said with sarcasm>. How can a police agency come out to the public to state that their dash cams were both inaccurate in the time stamp AND inaccurate as to which officer that car number/time stamp referred to?! For the sake of lawsuits alone (above and beyond Sandy Hook) I'd think this should be a priority of the department. |
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