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the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!

 
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the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
What the hell is going on?
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Matthew 7;14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
It means you're getting smarter and coming to your senses. You're realizing that no magic sky man is there help you.
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It means you're getting smarter and coming to your senses. You're realizing that no magic sky man is there help you.
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Wrong thread A.C.
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
It means you're getting smarter and coming to your senses. You're realizing that no magic sky man is there help you.
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But faith is a good thing, I need it even if I don't know what is going on
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Matthew 7;14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
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Am I gonna die?
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
It is a natural progression OP. There is a old saying that goes like this, "New levels. New Devils". Anytime that a Christian decides to take his or her faith to a new level, you can bet your savings that a stronger evil will try to come against you. However, If you can hold on and "Fix your eyes on Jesus" (Hebrews 12:2), then you will eventually have victory.

But listen, if you fall, don't give up, Just get right back up and try again. Sometimes it takes a few tries.
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
What the hell is going on?
 Quoting: natalie


You are asking the Universe for the truth, and you are receiving it. Why reject its vibration when you get what you ask for? God is not present in religion. You are sending an intention to the omnipresent life force that is the essence of our creator. Drop your beliefs, start over...
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
It is a natural progression OP. There is a old saying that goes like this, "New levels. New Devils". Anytime that a Christian decides to take his or her faith to a new level, you can bet your savings that a stronger evil will try to come against you. However, If you can hold on and "Fix your eyes on Jesus" (Hebrews 12:2), then you will eventually have victory.

But listen, if you fall, don't give up, Just get right back up and try again. Sometimes it takes a few tries.
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Seriously I am so freaking low, like bad thoughts low, geeez
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
What the hell is going on?
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You are asking the Universe for the truth, and you are receiving it. Why reject its vibration when you get what you ask for? God is not present in religion. You are sending an intention to the omnipresent life force that is the essence of our creator. Drop your beliefs, start over...
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What is the truth?
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Even If Jesus is not God then don't you think we should take His advice on faith? He is the most famous and influential person ever!
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
What the hell is going on?
 Quoting: natalie


You are asking the Universe for the truth, and you are receiving it. Why reject its vibration when you get what you ask for? God is not present in religion. You are sending an intention to the omnipresent life force that is the essence of our creator. Drop your beliefs, start over...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45534849


What is the truth?
 Quoting: natalie


Love.
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I am double minded and I cannot stand it anymore
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
What the hell is going on?
 Quoting: natalie


Don't give up. You need to tell Him what you are telling us. Tell Him your fears and ask Him to gently help you. Tell Him you are not strong and you need to be able to trust Him, but you are having trouble.

I have trouble too. I totally understand. Things happen to us in our life that cause us to have trouble believing and trusting in Him. But they can be overcome. satan will try to drive you away from Him and you mustn't allow that. No matter what happens you must always go back to the Throne of Grace and bow before Him and ask to have your relationship with Him restored.

Sometimes, God does things that we don't understand. I think you need to tell Him that your afraid and what you feel like is happening and that you need Him to gently help you some extra. He is Our Father and Our Husband(Jesus) and Our Friend ( Holy Spirit). Those are the things you must remember in your mind. Talk to Him. He loves you very much, Natalie, and He will never give up on you. Often we fail, but that doesn't mean we aren't making progress.

I had an abusive dad and sister and bad things happened at church and at school and that made me have trouble trusting anyone. What happened to make you afraid to trust? Something must have occurred in your life that interrupted your child-like faith. Remember when you were 2 and 3 and you just trusted adults and others. We can recapture that, but of course, down here we learn to be street smart and we are cautious. We have to be. I think it gets in the way of our relationship with God, but He knows. He understands. Sometimes faith is a minute by minute affair. Some of us need more reassurance than others and I don't think it's wrong to ask Him for that. It takes time.
Christard and Lover of God
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
It is a natural progression OP. There is a old saying that goes like this, "New levels. New Devils". Anytime that a Christian decides to take his or her faith to a new level, you can bet your savings that a stronger evil will try to come against you. However, If you can hold on and "Fix your eyes on Jesus" (Hebrews 12:2), then you will eventually have victory.

But listen, if you fall, don't give up, Just get right back up and try again. Sometimes it takes a few tries.
 Quoting: Big Irish Bastard


Seriously I am so freaking low, like bad thoughts low, geeez
 Quoting: natalie


Everyone gets depressed my friend. But hold your head up! Everything you have done wrong has been paid for. When you fail, just ask for forgiveness and try hard not to do the same thing again (repent). I have been there and it's not easy, but in the end we win!
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
It is a natural progression OP. There is a old saying that goes like this, "New levels. New Devils". Anytime that a Christian decides to take his or her faith to a new level, you can bet your savings that a stronger evil will try to come against you. However, If you can hold on and "Fix your eyes on Jesus" (Hebrews 12:2), then you will eventually have victory.

But listen, if you fall, don't give up, Just get right back up and try again. Sometimes it takes a few tries.
 Quoting: Big Irish Bastard


Seriously I am so freaking low, like bad thoughts low, geeez
 Quoting: natalie


You must fight day by day. Hate evil when it presents itself. People are not just people. You have good people and bad people. There will come a time you'll have to be angry, but do not sin in your anger.
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
I am double minded and I cannot stand it anymore
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I think we are taught to be double minded down here. It's subtle training and we don't even know that it's happening, but it does. We are told one thing, but witness a different principle in action. The guys on here tell me it's "cognitive dissonence". It happens. We need to look back and figure out where it happened to us and counter those messages. We also need to forgive the people who taught us these things because they were weak and didn't know what they were doing at the time.
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
I am double minded and I cannot stand it anymore
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God is not only God in the good sense. When you suckup to Him too much, just like with real people, He will start to hate you.
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
What the hell is going on?
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Try praying for less faith.
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
Even If Jesus is not God then don't you think we should take His advice on faith? He is the most famous and influential person ever!
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My advice: stop praying.
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
I am double minded and I cannot stand it anymore
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God is not only God in the good sense. When you suckup to Him too much, just like with real people, He will start to hate you.
 Quoting: Inspired 2


Jesus also said to ask for everything just once when you pray.
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
What the hell is going on?
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Try praying for less faith.
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rofl why so the opposite will happen?
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
What the hell is going on?
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Try praying for less faith.
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rofl why so the opposite will happen?
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You seem to be in deep shit. Make up with God.
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
What the hell is going on?
 Quoting: natalie


Try praying for less faith.
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rofl why so the opposite will happen?
 Quoting: natalie


You seem to be in deep shit. Make up with God.
 Quoting: Inspired 2


Self righteouss much?
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
I am double minded and I cannot stand it anymore
 Quoting: natalie


God is not only God in the good sense. When you suckup to Him too much, just like with real people, He will start to hate you.
 Quoting: Inspired 2


OP, this is not true!

Luke 18:1-8

18 Then Jesus told his disciples a parable to show them that they should always pray and not give up. 2 He said: “In a certain town there was a judge who neither feared God nor cared what people thought. 3 And there was a widow in that town who kept coming to him with the plea, ‘Grant me justice against my adversary.’

4 “For some time he refused. But finally he said to himself, ‘Even though I don’t fear God or care what people think, 5 yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will see that she gets justice, so that she won’t eventually come and attack me!’”

6 And the Lord said, “Listen to what the unjust judge says. 7 And will not God bring about justice for his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he keep putting them off? 8 I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?”
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
Matthew 7;14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
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Am I gonna die?
 Quoting: natalie


You're kinda weird.
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
You issue is ignorance.


You keep asking God for belief and then are having a hard time believing because He does give you more belief.

Faith is not belief.
Faith is not endurance.
Faith is not hope.
Faith is not a blind ANYTHING.


Faith is the SUBSTANCE of things hoped for, the EVIDENCE of that which is not seen. - Hebrews 11


So then if one is to receive faith then he truly receives something that no heathen man may ever receive. If a man truly gets faith then he gets for himself testimony of God's authority. For by faith I am where I am today and no man who was not of God could have gone through what I have gone through and gotten what I have begotten if God had not given it to him.

Nor can a man strengthen faith, this is foolishness. Every man who is of God is given a measure of faith by God and no man can get any more than what has been decided for him. You do well to ask for more, for no man knows how much he is to receive, but you have asked in ignorance not knowing what you ask for.

One cannot lose faith except by fear because fear kills faith.
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
I am double minded and I cannot stand it anymore
 Quoting: natalie


God is not only God in the good sense. When you suckup to Him too much, just like with real people, He will start to hate you.
 Quoting: Inspired 2


Jesus also said to ask for everything just once when you pray.
 Quoting: Inspired 2


Why? If you don't pray in faith dont you pray with importunity
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
What the hell is going on?
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Try praying for less faith.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1277891

rofl why so the opposite will happen?
 Quoting: natalie


You seem to be in deep shit. Make up with God.
 Quoting: Inspired 2


It's a joke
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Re: the more I pray for faith the more faith I lose!
I am double minded and I cannot stand it anymore
 Quoting: natalie


God is not only God in the good sense. When you suckup to Him too much, just like with real people, He will start to hate you.
 Quoting: Inspired 2


Jesus also said to ask for everything just once when you pray.
 Quoting: Inspired 2


Why? If you don't pray in faith dont you pray with importunity
 Quoting: natalie


You ask your dad for something. Two minutes later you ask for it again, even though he heard you the first time. In the next 10 minutes and for the next 3 days you asked him 100 more times. Will you get on someones nerves?





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