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Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...

 
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If you put fire to snow it is suppose to melt correct?

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What do you think we are, stupid?
I can see that the substance you have there is that jelly crystals that look like snow, I had some a year ago and it is what they make that water retaining substance out of.
You are not going to go and randomly get a clump of snow and put a lighter to it, so it is obvious if only to the not so stupid!

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Sad thing is how many people on this thread actually are believing this bullshit. This thread is a good example of how this country was allowed to be taken over... Guarantee most of these people believe in global warming and voted for Obama.
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Nice op, snow is supposed to dramatically melt when heat/flame is on or next to it. That is quite odd. It snowed last night here....I think I might do this experiment.
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@@@@

Around here the snow starts melting as you walk into the garage, then fully melted once inside the house, that snow just sits on a dinner plate like a piece of pie?
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Posts like this make me realize how many stupid people visit GLP... It is fucking unbelievable that anyone can be this dumb...
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Logical progression:

It was on YouTube, so it must be real.

It was pinned, therefore it must be true.

All hail the power of a YouTube fake science pin!
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The gullible in this thread is amazing!

People really believe this?

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I'm seriously upset people... Me and my family ate this snow yesterday BC we made ice cream out of it... Although it was more like a chocolate slushy.
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luckily it will pass through your system in a day or two unchanged
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Um, this is beyond stupid. Your video shows the snow melting when a torch is put to it. Snow can vary significantly in the amount of moisture it contain from very wet heavy snow to very dry light snow. If one has ever lived were it snows with regularity you would already know that. Your snow is light dry snow with very low moisture content which is very common for snowfall with the temperatures are very low. As it warms outside and temperatures are barely freezing the snow tends to be heavier.

One would quickly learn this by shoveling snow around their house for one winter.
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Here was the powder that came down with a rainfall:

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Seeking a scientific rational explanation for this. (rain, not snow)
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Why do people think the moment you put fire to snow or ice it will melt? I live in the snow belt and I can tell you when my car is covered in snow and I start the defroster after my car has warmed it takes a long time to melt its not instant at all. They get a little snow in the south and suddenly its a conspiracy of epic proportions. Its obvious the worldwide weather is changing, but its not the nwo dropping fake snow on everyone. People need to calm down and just get their snow shovels out.
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No but in all seriousness, if you are on the pacific coast and are melting snow in front of your face, you are breathing in a radioactive cocktail of doom.

Enjoy.

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good grief, this has got to be one of the stupidest comments on this thread. we're talking about the east coast snow, as there is no snow on the west coast...drought, remember? unless someone is trying this up in the mountains where we did just get snow, and not one person from idaho or east oregon has reported in.

ya'll act like there is NO radioactive particles in the environment besides fuku. newsflash: there is shit tons of it all over the planet. for decades now. the only way to tell if it is fuku related is by testing what type of hot particles they are. nuke plants are leaking all over the east coast. get a grip. it's way worse than you think, but not what you think.
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LMAO... THIS COMING FROM THE SAME PERSON WHO BELIEVES IN PLASTIC SNOW.

wtf
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Here was the powder that came down with a rainfall:

[link to i1166.photobucket.com]
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Seeking a scientific rational explanation for this. (rain, not snow)
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Around here they call it ice pellets. .

A few points:

There are many different kinds of snow depending on conditions. The snow in the video is very dense corn or granular snow. Snow handled or brought into a warm enviroment will transform into corn snow before it melts. This snow is caused by partial melting and refreezing and is very resistant to melting. Snowbanks created by plows have been known to last well into the winter months in northern states

It takes over 100 calories to heat 1 gram of ice from 32 to 33 degrees This is called heat of fusion. It only takes 1 calorie to heat water from 33 to 34 degrees. There is nothing unusual about the way the snow is melting in the video. The blackness is soot. Snow does not burn. When it melts the water doesn't drip off because it is absorbed into the mass of snow. It takes quite a bit of melt before it will become saturated and start to drip off.
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Here was the powder that came down with a rainfall:

[link to i1166.photobucket.com]
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Seeking a scientific rational explanation for this. (rain, not snow)
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Around here they call it ice pellets. .

A few points:

There are many different kinds of snow depending on conditions. The snow in the video is very dense corn or granular snow. Snow handled or brought into a warm enviroment will transform into corn snow before it melts. This snow is caused by partial melting and refreezing and is very resistant to melting. Snowbanks created by plows have been known to last well into the summer months in northern states

It takes over 100 calories to heat 1 gram of ice from 32 to 33 degrees This is called heat of fusion. It only takes 1 calorie to heat water from 33 to 34 degrees. There is nothing unusual about the way the snow is melting in the video. The blackness is soot. Snow does not burn. When it melts the water doesn't drip off because it is absorbed into the mass of snow. It takes quite a bit of melt before it will become saturated and start to drip off.
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I just ate some snow and swallowed a lit candle at the same time and shit pure water everywhere
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Hey all you snowtards and melt tards. Do this experiment.

1. Get some snow and let it melt naturally into water
2. Use that same melted snow which has become water and put it in an ice tray and freeze it.

3. Take one ice cube and put a ligter to it. Now do you see water dripping.

lol snowtards
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he admits that it stinks though...what is the smell??
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The smell is the butane genius..... It's a dirty gas and your burning it right next to your face. Your smelling all the crap that's in the butane being burned off in a closed space.
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Explain why the burners flame expanded while melting ice @ about4:40 in and again @ about 4:50 then.
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You people are to fucking stupid for words.... the same thing happens hen a pot full of water boils over dumbass. Shit this country is in trouble when this many people can't understand basic fucking reality.
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I was/am tired. The water wasn't falling on the burner Slick. Didn't watch it huh? It truely is priceless when a debunk video debunks itself.
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
I just tried this and I can confirm: it doesn't melt and parts of it turn black
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Here was the powder that came down with a rainfall:

[link to i1166.photobucket.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52988172


Seeking a scientific rational explanation for this. (rain, not snow)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52988172


Around here they call it ice pellets. .

A few points:

There are many different kinds of snow depending on conditions. The snow in the video is very dense corn or granular snow. Snow handled or brought into a warm enviroment will transform into corn snow before it melts. This snow is caused by partial melting and refreezing and is very resistant to melting. Snowbanks created by plows have been known to last well into the winter months in northern states

It takes over 100 calories to heat 1 gram of ice from 32 to 33 degrees This is called heat of fusion. It only takes 1 calorie to heat water from 33 to 34 degrees. There is nothing unusual about the way the snow is melting in the video. The blackness is soot. Snow does not burn. When it melts the water doesn't drip off because it is absorbed into the mass of snow. It takes quite a bit of melt before it will become saturated and start to drip off.
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Ice Pellets? This is the powdered residue that remained after everything was dry and warm. It had to be hosed off.

Is that what Ice Pellets do? Does this happen often where you are? Large, wet, raindrops leave a powder, and you call this phenomenon Ice Pellets?
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Here was the powder that came down with a rainfall:

[link to i1166.photobucket.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52988172


Seeking a scientific rational explanation for this. (rain, not snow)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52988172


Around here they call it ice pellets. .

A few points:

There are many different kinds of snow depending on conditions. The snow in the video is very dense corn or granular snow. Snow handled or brought into a warm enviroment will transform into corn snow before it melts. This snow is caused by partial melting and refreezing and is very resistant to melting. Snowbanks created by plows have been known to last well into the winter months in northern states

It takes over 100 calories to heat 1 gram of ice from 32 to 33 degrees This is called heat of fusion. It only takes 1 calorie to heat water from 33 to 34 degrees. There is nothing unusual about the way the snow is melting in the video. The blackness is soot. Snow does not burn. When it melts the water doesn't drip off because it is absorbed into the mass of snow. It takes quite a bit of melt before it will become saturated and start to drip off.
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Ice Pellets? This is the powdered residue that remained after everything was dry and warm. It had to be hosed off.

Is that what Ice Pellets do? Does this happen often where you are? Large, wet, raindrops leave a powder, and you call this phenomenon Ice Pellets?
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Also - I put on gloves, scraped some of the powder off with a razor blade, and placed it in a sealed jar where it remains. Do Ice Pellets always leave this residue? Please explain.
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Okay so from some of the comments I read, snow does not melt when you put fire to it? What we are being shown in these video's is accurate and snow will not melt when you put fire on it?
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What you're looking at is ice crystals formed around a nucleus of ammonium sulfate.
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Our results suggest that heterogeneous nucleation on ammonium sulfate may be an important pathway for atmospheric ice nucleation and cirrus cloud formation when solid ammonium sulfate aerosol particles are available for ice formation. [link to www.atmos-chem-phys.net]

Cloud droplets form on hygroscopic(salt and salt-like, including ammonium sulfate) particles in the atmosphere called cloud condensation nuclei (CCN). [link to www.swhydro.arizona.edu]

They're seeding the clouds with ammonium sulfate.

Edit: It's possible that it could be aluminum ammonium sulfate(which is 1 aluminum molecule bonded to 2 ammonium sulfate molocules) but someone with more chemistry knowledge than I have would have to test for it's presence.

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This thread really took off overnight, besides the weird rod shaped "snowflakes", the first big snow this year had a strange blue-ish hue when shoveling.
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Not fake snow, enhanced snow, that has different properties due to chems.
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
Here was the powder that came down with a rainfall:

[link to i1166.photobucket.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52988172


Seeking a scientific rational explanation for this. (rain, not snow)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52988172


Around here they call it ice pellets. .

A few points:

There are many different kinds of snow depending on conditions. The snow in the video is very dense corn or granular snow. Snow handled or brought into a warm enviroment will transform into corn snow before it melts. This snow is caused by partial melting and refreezing and is very resistant to melting. Snowbanks created by plows have been known to last well into the winter months in northern states

It takes over 100 calories to heat 1 gram of ice from 32 to 33 degrees This is called heat of fusion. It only takes 1 calorie to heat water from 33 to 34 degrees. There is nothing unusual about the way the snow is melting in the video. The blackness is soot. Snow does not burn. When it melts the water doesn't drip off because it is absorbed into the mass of snow. It takes quite a bit of melt before it will become saturated and start to drip off.
 Quoting: Anon IDW 53624333


Ice Pellets? This is the powdered residue that remained after everything was dry and warm. It had to be hosed off.

Is that what Ice Pellets do? Does this happen often where you are? Large, wet, raindrops leave a powder, and you call this phenomenon Ice Pellets?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52988172


nah, I call that a geo engineering fuckup. But thats not what this thread is about . A didn't watch your vid, I assumed you were bleating about the snow that wouldn't melt as well. If you collect and analyze any sample of precipitation you will find all kinds of crap in it.Some of it is pollution, some is natural, and some is geo engineering and god knows what else
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BTW every single snowflake has a particle of something at the center called a condensation nuclei. When I was a kid we warned not to eat snow because of the nearby aluminum plant. If there were not particulate matter in the atmosphere snowflakes could not form. It isn't a big leap of logic to conclude different nuclei result in different types of snow. Needle or 'shard' snow is not at all uncommon
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Of course if you try to melt a chunk of snow with a lighter with barely enough fuel left in it it won't melt FAST enough in order for it to drip. It will freeze again and get absorbed in the rest of the snow.

Of course the ice cube will melt with the same lighter used because there is nothing to absorb the molten water like snow does. You guys surprise me every time i come in here, you need to go to a mental hospital because going to school is too late.
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clappahesright
YAY! Somebody that has actually seen different types of snow before!

Seriously, the snow is full of air pockets that can absorb the melted water and the cold temperature of the snow causes it to refreeze. That's one of the reasons you can't eat snow straight for hydration, it is full of more air than water.

Also wtf is everybody using a bic lighter for? Much less smothering the flame against the snow and holding it sideways. Try to flick a bic a few millimeters from your hand and see how it ignites, after a few tries right? The lighter fuel can't ignite and hold enough heat if there's no airflow and oxygen to allow it to transition into a gaseous state. The hottest part is right at the tip of the flame when it's held straight up (the bright white-orange). That's where you get the best mix of heat, fuel and oxygen.

The other dude uses a blowtorch, but that shit is so hot and high pressure that the jet of heat basically vaporizes the water before it escapes the jet and has time to condensate. You can see it behind the ice cube (which has more water/volume aka density btw)in that dark patch. That dark spot is all the vaporized water being sprayed onto the plate by the pressure of the blowtorch.

The ice cubes melt because they're basically solid water on the surface. They're waaaaaay denser than snow so they produce more water in a less amount of time.

Trust me on this. I'm studying wildland fire and firefighting right now. We talk all about fuel moisture content, fire behavior, weather and similar shit ALL THE TIME!

Get off the damn illuminati/chemtrail/them-against-us train for once and do some observation and experimentation. There is a sheeple group forming as a result of questioning things but getting the wrong answers.sheep
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Hey all you snowtards and melt tards. Do this experiment.

1. Get some snow and let it melt naturally into water
2. Use that same melted snow which has become water and put it in an ice tray and freeze it.

3. Take one ice cube and put a ligter to it. Now do you see water dripping.

lol snowtards
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I am doing all sorts of tests on the snow here and pictures will be included. Thanks for the suggestion, but what is a ligter?
The snow here is flammable so letting it melt might not tell the whole story, but I couldn't hurt.
I will update with everything I can find out myself and again after I get this stuff sent out for other testing.
The tests I've done so far are weight,density, ph,ammonia,and nitrate NO2 and NO3.
I will be putting some stains & slides together hopefully later today.

The iron, copper, lead, bacteria, pesticides, chlorine, cyanuric acid,yeast and calcium tests from my yard and from a few sites around my county.
I'll try to put some more work in on these later but sleep deprivation is kicking my ass and I'm really slowing down.

I'm open to suggestions on any other test people can think of.
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Of course if you try to melt a chunk of snow with a lighter with barely enough fuel left in it it won't melt FAST enough in order for it to drip. It will freeze again and get absorbed in the rest of the snow.

Of course the ice cube will melt with the same lighter used because there is nothing to absorb the molten water like snow does. You guys surprise me every time i come in here, you need to go to a mental hospital because going to school is too late.
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clappahesright
YAY! Somebody that has actually seen different types of snow before!

Seriously, the snow is full of air pockets that can absorb the melted water and the cold temperature of the snow causes it to refreeze. That's one of the reasons you can't eat snow straight for hydration, it is full of more air than water.

Also wtf is everybody using a bic lighter for? Much less smothering the flame against the snow and holding it sideways. Try to flick a bic a few millimeters from your hand and see how it ignites, after a few tries right? The lighter fuel can't ignite and hold enough heat if there's no airflow and oxygen to allow it to transition into a gaseous state. The hottest part is right at the tip of the flame when it's held straight up (the bright white-orange). That's where you get the best mix of heat, fuel and oxygen.

The other dude uses a blowtorch, but that shit is so hot and high pressure that the jet of heat basically vaporizes the water before it escapes the jet and has time to condensate. You can see it behind the ice cube (which has more water/volume aka density btw)in that dark patch. That dark spot is all the vaporized water being sprayed onto the plate by the pressure of the blowtorch.

The ice cubes melt because they're basically solid water on the surface. They're waaaaaay denser than snow so they produce more water in a less amount of time.

Trust me on this. I'm studying wildland fire and firefighting right now. We talk all about fuel moisture content, fire behavior, weather and similar shit ALL THE TIME!

Get off the damn illuminati/chemtrail/them-against-us train for once and do some observation and experimentation. There is a sheeple group forming as a result of questioning things but getting the wrong answers.sheep
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One thing I have to add that I found suspicious. The black sooty looking remnant on that German guys snow.

I'm not denying variance in the snow composition. It could very well be affected by geoengineering. After all, we do have stuff like acid rain and cloud seeding that produce unnatural precip. from injection of materials.

But snow not melting? C'mon
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the black soot is the carbon from the combusted lighter fluid.
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the reason snow does not melt is because of the air pockets in between the snowflakes, the snow crystals are 'airy', just like the pink fiberglass insulation in your house.

that is why an igloo made of snow will keep you warm and not melt on the inside, snow has an R value equal to or better than the pink insulation in your house because of it's crystalline, open structure.
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Why did it turn black?
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