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Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...

 
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
Test this. Take ice out of freezer and blend it into snow. Then burn it with lighter. Same Damn thing others are getting.

The black stuff is the butane gas waste....its not a clean fuel.

Omg people are tards.

We made ice balls to throw when we where kids in the 80's and they always went blackened......explain that when chemtrails didn't really exist.


Time to stop jumping on this weeks paranoia bandwagon guys.
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
I posted this before.. If you guys actually want to know a real possible answer to this question then please take a look. A Methane Hydrate release would change the melt point of snow/ice. A large methane hydrate release would end the human race. No bullshit, check it out.

I noticed the ice crystals were very large and reflected light much more than I had remembered.

I think this is being caused by methane hydrates. The snow just isn't water but water mixed with methane. Methane releases in the Arctic have been skyrocketing.

This would make snow that doesn't have a melting point of 32 degrees.

If too much "sequestered" methane is released it mean a dirt nap for the human race.

This is not my site but I think he is correct in his assessment:
[link to www.geoengineeringwatch.org]
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People do not realise it but the 2010 Oil-disaster in the GOM with the Deep Well Horizon was part in making more methane dissolve and be released in the water and air.

The corexit and other [dispersant] chemicals made a blanket of sunken oil and tar upon the ocean-bed where it heats up methane hydrates. Video's with proof have been spread.

Up to 40% of Gulf Oil Spill Was Potent Methane Gas, Research Shows
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
This is what the snow looks like once it has been allowed to melt down at room temperature. All utensils used were freshly cleaned. The water was run through a colander to remove debris, then it was run through a Brita filter. Within a cpl days this happened. It smells like model cement, and has a snotty consistency


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bump

great job
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So the fake snow turns into semen??? This theory needs it's own thread
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01/30/2014 06:54 PM
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
It's just a dirty snow-ball with some extra fallen chem-trails... Oops... I mean chemicals.

Go back to sleep... says our masters.
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01/30/2014 07:08 PM
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
Try melting ice cubes out of the freezer with a torch, it turn black and seems to not melt too. It's just what happens when ice meets fire. Some people are idiots. I know cause I've always liked playing with fire and have tried to burn everything
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
I seen a video online were a guy was trying to burn a snowball and instead of it turning to liquid it turned black n smelled like burnt plastic... so I tried it and it did the same thing he was from indiana and I live in iowa kinda weird ...
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01/31/2014 01:09 AM
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
How many of you went out and bougght a blow torch?
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01/31/2014 01:32 AM
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
Haven't tried this, but have noticed the snow looks weird and different where I am.

Big huge crystals, just laying there. Does not look normal. It looks like chemicals, and we were being chem-trailed daily. Also - once, after a rain, there were large white spots all over our car, roof, and lawn. It was like a powder. I scraped some of it up, and put it in a jar, but never did anything with it. (still have the jar full of powder sitting there)
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You know what...I've noticed the powder on all of the cars too... And the snow from where I am looks like little balls of snow and not flakes...
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Okay to all of you dumb mother fuckers snow does not melt easily, and the putting a lighter up to it and seeing the black soot and the "chemical" smellis from the butane inside of the lighter. Also the powder is salt that was put on the road. All this is coming from a Michigander :-) ITS FUCKING SNOW!
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ROTFL

OMg, you just can't fix stupid.
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Nope.... There is no known cure, just birth control.
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01/31/2014 08:36 AM
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
FFS Snow tards it's snow.

Amazing one person makes an idiotic claim and many others jump on the band wagon.

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Bunch of fucking sheeple!

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01/31/2014 09:11 AM
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
Test this. Take ice out of freezer and blend it into snow. Then burn it with lighter. Same Damn thing others are getting.

The black stuff is the butane gas waste....its not a clean fuel.

Omg people are tards.

We made ice balls to throw when we where kids in the 80's and they always went blackened......explain that when chemtrails didn't really exist.


Time to stop jumping on this weeks paranoia bandwagon guys.
 Quoting: some guy 41552634


oh geez, chemtrails have been around since early seventies that i saw for myself.

lol, the eighties...man you are young.
and from what i have read chemtrails were even being tested back in the sixties.
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
the gas or chemical smell is from the butane lighter not burning all the gas and leaving residue on the snow. if it was plastic or chemical laden then try melting it on a stove. you would get the same gas smell if it was fake snow
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
Haven't tried this, but have noticed the snow looks weird and different where I am.

Big huge crystals, just laying there. Does not look normal. It looks like chemicals, and we were being chem-trailed daily. Also - once, after a rain, there were large white spots all over our car, roof, and lawn. It was like a powder. I scraped some of it up, and put it in a jar, but never did anything with it. (still have the jar full of powder sitting there)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52988172


You know what...I've noticed the powder on all of the cars too... And the snow from where I am looks like little balls of snow and not flakes...
 Quoting: UnKnown 46668107




Okay to all of you dumb mother fuckers snow does not melt easily, and the putting a lighter up to it and seeing the black soot and the "chemical" smellis from the butane inside of the lighter. Also the powder is salt that was put on the road. All this is coming from a Michigander :-) ITS FUCKING SNOW!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53662894


Not sure why everyone else in your world that does not agree with your theory is a motherfucker but I guess to each his own. Snow always melted when I applied a flame to it in the past, so you can imagine my surprise when I went out and tested this myself. The snow did not melt, it burned similar to how my plastic He-Man did when they were introduced to a flame. The smell was like burned chemical or plastic, there was also no water. It took the snow about 3 hours to melt inside the bowl inside my home with the heat at 72 degrees. I also noticed the oddness earlier this year when my boots and shovels seemed to be drying very fast and there was no puddle of water near my door. Try a match or lighting something else on fire then putting that flame to the snow, same result. You should have a puddle of water as soon as the flame touches the snow.

I am sure its not all fake in all places, but some of it is. The "salt" you referred to usually turns the snow water brown or black. I have pumped many gallons of water out of my garage from my car from all the extra snow this year.
I am also from Michigan, its fake snow dude. I encourage every single person to go out and try it for themselves.

ITS ARTIFICIAL SNOW! ITS FROM THE PLANES THAT DISTRIBUTE THE TRAILS OF UNKNOWN SUBSTANCE CONSTANTLY IN LINES OVER YOUR HEADS DAILY. NOT THE PLANES WITH NORMAL CONTRAILS THAT DISSIPATE A SHORT DISTANCE BEHIND THE PLANE.
(See what I did there)
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
Wish I could confirm, but alas, my analysis of the sample from the 4 f'cken feet of snow in my backyard yielded nothing but crystal clear water when it melted and dissipated as expected when I put a lighter to it.

I got nothing.
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02/01/2014 09:07 AM
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
[link to www.accuweather.com]
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02/02/2014 07:14 AM
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
dumb motherfuckers have never seen snow so they try to burn it? LOL HELLYEAS
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Burn all snow it is poisonous
We must burn it all
Keep away from the snow
The sun is not melting it
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02/02/2014 07:16 AM
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
The snow is not frozen but it won't melt
The temperatures are below freezing and the snow is not freezing
Burn the snow
It is not real snow
It must be stopped
By fire
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02/02/2014 07:19 AM
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
The snow is not behaving in a normal manner
It is not real snow
Light fluffy snow has not been affected by heat of flame
Compacted snow has not been affected by industrial flame throwing equipment
The snow is not real
Avoid the snow and if you can find a way
Destroy it
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02/02/2014 07:27 AM
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
Nice op, snow is supposed to dramatically melt when heat/flame is on or next to it. That is quite odd. It snowed last night here....I think I might do this experiment.
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Here a same person speaks
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Nice op, snow is supposed to dramatically melt when heat/flame is on or next to it. That is quite odd. It snowed last night here....I think I might do this experiment.
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Here a same person speaks
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I meant
Hear a sane person speaks
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
Is there anyone here with a scientific background who can chime in and set us straight on what is going on?
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(this from my friend who is a retired nerd... umm.. scientist).....

Raff. Lerro shared I fucking love science's photo.

Yesterday

There have been several videos going viral this week, showing that snow that doesn’t melt when put into contact with a lighter or a blowtorch. Some videos even show black charring on the snow. To many of these people posting the videos, this appears to be “proof” of chemtrails or that the government is responsible for covering the country in a white mystery substance.

This isn’t a problem with mystery chemicals, it’s a problem with not understanding chemistry. Everyone knows that the three most familiar states of matter are gas, liquid, and solid. Typically, to transition from a solid to a gas, the solid must melt into a liquid, and then vaporize into the gas. However, there is another phase transition known as sublimation that takes a solid directly to a gas. (think: dry ice)

Regular snow can sublimate below the freezing point under certain pressure conditions. This typically happens with cold, dry air, like what is found during the winter. Because this winter has been much drier than previous years for the East Coast, sublimation is achieved more easily.

Though a snowball may seem like a dense unit, it is still just a collection of particles with a high amount of surface area. When these particles come into contact with a much high heat source (like the blowtorch) it is energetically favorable to just sublimate directly into a vapor.

As for the black marks left on the snow? That’s just residue from the lighter/blowtorch/match, as the fuel did not burn cleanly and completely.

More info: [link to on.doi.gov]
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
It's just light reflecting off Venus making those soot marks.
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Is there anyone here with a scientific background who can chime in and set us straight on what is going on?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15708467


(this from my friend who is a retired nerd... umm.. scientist).....

Raff. Lerro shared I fucking love science's photo.

Yesterday

There have been several videos going viral this week, showing that snow that doesn’t melt when put into contact with a lighter or a blowtorch. Some videos even show black charring on the snow. To many of these people posting the videos, this appears to be “proof” of chemtrails or that the government is responsible for covering the country in a white mystery substance.

This isn’t a problem with mystery chemicals, it’s a problem with not understanding chemistry. Everyone knows that the three most familiar states of matter are gas, liquid, and solid. Typically, to transition from a solid to a gas, the solid must melt into a liquid, and then vaporize into the gas. However, there is another phase transition known as sublimation that takes a solid directly to a gas. (think: dry ice)

Regular snow can sublimate below the freezing point under certain pressure conditions. This typically happens with cold, dry air, like what is found during the winter. Because this winter has been much drier than previous years for the East Coast, sublimation is achieved more easily.

Though a snowball may seem like a dense unit, it is still just a collection of particles with a high amount of surface area. When these particles come into contact with a much high heat source (like the blowtorch) it is energetically favorable to just sublimate directly into a vapor.

As for the black marks left on the snow? That’s just residue from the lighter/blowtorch/match, as the fuel did not burn cleanly and completely.

More info: [link to on.doi.gov]
 Quoting: Citizenperth



I wonder what he would say to the people that tried these experiments, and used a Bic lighter, with snow not having any soot or burn marks on it?
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
Is there anyone here with a scientific background who can chime in and set us straight on what is going on?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15708467


(this from my friend who is a retired nerd... umm.. scientist).....

Raff. Lerro shared I fucking love science's photo.

Yesterday

There have been several videos going viral this week, showing that snow that doesn’t melt when put into contact with a lighter or a blowtorch. Some videos even show black charring on the snow. To many of these people posting the videos, this appears to be “proof” of chemtrails or that the government is responsible for covering the country in a white mystery substance.

This isn’t a problem with mystery chemicals, it’s a problem with not understanding chemistry. Everyone knows that the three most familiar states of matter are gas, liquid, and solid. Typically, to transition from a solid to a gas, the solid must melt into a liquid, and then vaporize into the gas. However, there is another phase transition known as sublimation that takes a solid directly to a gas. (think: dry ice)

Regular snow can sublimate below the freezing point under certain pressure conditions. This typically happens with cold, dry air, like what is found during the winter. Because this winter has been much drier than previous years for the East Coast, sublimation is achieved more easily.

Though a snowball may seem like a dense unit, it is still just a collection of particles with a high amount of surface area. When these particles come into contact with a much high heat source (like the blowtorch) it is energetically favorable to just sublimate directly into a vapor.

As for the black marks left on the snow? That’s just residue from the lighter/blowtorch/match, as the fuel did not burn cleanly and completely.

More info: [link to on.doi.gov]
 Quoting: Citizenperth



I wonder what he would say to the people that tried these experiments, and used a Bic lighter, with snow not having any soot or burn marks on it?
 Quoting: Roxi



And to the smell coming off the snow, even with fire-matches ... smell like plastic burning, not like sulphur & wood from the match itself ....
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
my two cents:

lot of methane coming from the earth crust is reaching very low temperature on the athmosphere and turns liquid and get enclosure with water moist into snow flakes
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
for everyone that responded thanks :)

he is a very scientific based agnostic.. i love him for his ham radios and ability to build amazing electronics from junk....

that was his synopsis though.....

me?.... we don't get snow in sunny QLD... ever... GRIN.....

at christmas they throw around that packing styrophome to look like snow at plays and shit

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Thread: Strange memories of trying to burn snow
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
If you put fire to snow it is suppose to melt correct?

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I did the same in Missouri, does not melt with fire. Smells funny. Looks funny. Our snow is not right want to know why??? All the chemicals the government is using I'm our air is causing our weather. Snow used to melt as you hold in your hands within seconds of taking it inside, it would run down your hands and arms as you would eat it. Doesn't do that now. It's weird and scary what can be done to our environment to screw it up
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
so; Snow that does not melt...

we know they have special chemicals that prevent ice from forming on sidewalks and driveways, it melts / dissipates the snow, in below freezing temps.

we know they have special chemicals that melt ice off airplane wings, and retard / prevent ice from forming, in below freezing temps.


so what about using chemicals to do the opposite ??

there was a sci fi story where the bad guy had a CATALIST that allowed ice to form / kept ice frozen at up to 60 degrees, and was going to freeze most of the planet, and conquer the rest.

and there was a history chanel story (on wierd weapons) where they made ice with sawdust mixed in (and chemicals ? glycerine ? ), and it stayed frozen for 2 days, at 60 degrees.
they were planning a battleship made of ice, built around a giant freezer.

if they are using some chemicals to do this, that explains the wierd smells that were reported.
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Re: Snow that does not melt when you put fire to it...
Look how unsuspecting people are about the snow
It's so sick






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