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Obama Quietly Uses Executive Orders For Two New Gun Control Laws

 
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Obama Quietly Uses Executive Orders For Two New Gun Control Laws


Already. January 29, 2014


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LET ME REMIND YOU GUYS AGAIN

SO GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS

EXECUTIVE ORDERS ARE NOT, I REPEAT, NOT LAW. They have no judicial power behind them and therefore, are unenforceable by law.

Executive order can only be used to reinforce existing laws.

He can write them all day-- THEY ARE MEANINGLESS!!
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What sucks is, even if we get a radically different potus next time..(which is unlikely anyway) This wont ever be changed back. No potus ever goes back and undoes the damage from the potus before. They will campaign on how ridiculous it is, but will never undo it. It just becomes the new norm. The executive branch especially doesn't like to give up power already obtained.

So unless the people do something, it will just be the new normal.
 Quoting: *Evan


As evidenced by the chain of events in my previous post. They simply twist and bend existing policies to suit their own agenda. And add many of their own for the next administration to manipulate, of course.
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yupp96

Yes maam.
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What are the EO numbers?
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The first step in gun control is to identify gun holders and start accounting for guns.

Next would be to make it so weapons equal to or capable of adequate defense against the government (assault type,) are greatly restricted or illegal.

Now all they have to do to win this battle is get half of the population's equalizers out of the way by banning at least assault weapons completely in some of the most manor cities.

You know, the ones with horrible violence problems which seem almost instigated and are certainly perpetuated.
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This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database...
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What sucks is, even if we get a radically different potus next time..(which is unlikely anyway) This wont ever be changed back. No potus ever goes back and undoes the damage from the potus before. They will campaign on how ridiculous it is, but will never undo it. It just becomes the new norm. The executive branch especially doesn't like to give up power already obtained.

So unless the people do something, it will just be the new normal.
 Quoting: *Evan


As evidenced by the chain of events in my previous post. They simply twist and bend existing policies to suit their own agenda. And add many of their own for the next administration to manipulate, of course.
 Quoting: *Rhombus*


yupp96

Yes maam.
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Hey, can I come visit you? It's dreary and cold here!
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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What sucks is, even if we get a radically different potus next time..(which is unlikely anyway) This wont ever be changed back. No potus ever goes back and undoes the damage from the potus before. They will campaign on how ridiculous it is, but will never undo it. It just becomes the new norm. The executive branch especially doesn't like to give up power already obtained.

So unless the people do something, it will just be the new normal.
 Quoting: *Evan


Don't hold your breath waiting for Boner to do anything about it.
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This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database...
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I have not been asked yet, but I do not see my doctor often at all. If asked about my firearms I will not answer that question, it is an invasion of my privacy.
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What are the EO numbers?
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Maybe this page has not been updated?



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What sucks is, even if we get a radically different potus next time..(which is unlikely anyway) This wont ever be changed back. No potus ever goes back and undoes the damage from the potus before. They will campaign on how ridiculous it is, but will never undo it. It just becomes the new norm. The executive branch especially doesn't like to give up power already obtained.

So unless the people do something, it will just be the new normal.
 Quoting: *Evan


As evidenced by the chain of events in my previous post. They simply twist and bend existing policies to suit their own agenda. And add many of their own for the next administration to manipulate, of course.
 Quoting: *Rhombus*


yupp96

Yes maam.
 Quoting: *Evan


Hey, can I come visit you? It's dreary and cold here!
 Quoting: *Rhombus*


As long as you don't require water to survive...lol

It's sunny today will be about 70...but we are running out of water..
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Yet another act of Treason for witch Obama should be in Jail.
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The fact that this man is even LOOSE, let alone allowed to continue as president of the USA, is so utterly fucking outrageous, it defies all imaginable logic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53611085


It's not only the President, the Congress and Supreme court are part of the same group of turds!
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I won't argue with you.

99.9999% of our problems, were gathered in the same room last Tuesday night.
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That thought was occurring to me at the same time. Where the heck was one of those darned weaponized drones when we could have REALLY used it? Or a ball of lightning from Heaven above? Or even a bunch of farting cows, like the ones which blew up that barn in Germany? But NOOOOO...!!
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What sucks is, even if we get a radically different potus next time..(which is unlikely anyway) This wont ever be changed back. No potus ever goes back and undoes the damage from the potus before. They will campaign on how ridiculous it is, but will never undo it. It just becomes the new norm. The executive branch especially doesn't like to give up power already obtained.

So unless the people do something, it will just be the new normal.
 Quoting: *Evan


Don't hold your breath waiting for Boner to do anything about it.
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Yea, exactly
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This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database...
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As evidenced by the chain of events in my previous post. They simply twist and bend existing policies to suit their own agenda. And add many of their own for the next administration to manipulate, of course.
 Quoting: *Rhombus*


yupp96

Yes maam.
 Quoting: *Evan


Hey, can I come visit you? It's dreary and cold here!
 Quoting: *Rhombus*


As long as you don't require water to survive...lol

It's sunny today will be about 70...but we are running out of water..
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Hmmm. I'll bring a truckful of snow with me. Problem solved!
I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain.
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Uh.... guys????


Where are these 2 "Excutive Orders" that are being used as suggested in the title?

Last Edited by KimmieAnnaJones on 01/31/2014 11:55 AM
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This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database...
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thisqueen
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I never used to go to the doctor, but with my recent diagnosis, I have to....well, maybe not. I think I can just come up with my own treatment plan...this makes me really not want to go..
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WE THE PEOPLE WILL NOT COMPLY.
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yupp96

Yes maam.
 Quoting: *Evan


Hey, can I come visit you? It's dreary and cold here!
 Quoting: *Rhombus*


As long as you don't require water to survive...lol

It's sunny today will be about 70...but we are running out of water..
 Quoting: *Evan


Hmmm. I'll bring a truckful of snow with me. Problem solved!
 Quoting: *Rhombus*


lol, there ya go.

We are going to the coast on vaca for a week in Feb. My 10 yr annversary. I'm looking forward to that R&R on the beach
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This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database...
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Mr. Rhombus wrote and EMR program back in 2001 but ended up pursuing other business opportunities, largely because he could see the nightmare potential even back then.
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I never used to go to the doctor, but with my recent diagnosis, I have to....well, maybe not. I think I can just come up with my own treatment plan...this makes me really not want to go..
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Wait, what? What's wrong??
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This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database...
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I have not been asked yet, but I do not see my doctor often at all. If asked about my firearms I will not answer that question, it is an invasion of my privacy.
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MY wife went to a Dr. once and he demanded her SS number. When she said that wasn't required under the law.

he threw her out of his office.
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Obama Quietly Uses Executive Orders For Two New Gun Control Laws


Already. January 29, 2014


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44459042


LET ME REMIND YOU GUYS AGAIN

SO GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS

EXECUTIVE ORDERS ARE NOT, I REPEAT, NOT LAW. They have no judicial power behind them and therefore, are unenforceable by law.

Executive order can only be used to reinforce existing laws.

He can write them all day-- THEY ARE MEANINGLESS!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 476132


You're right, they aren't law.

They are edict.

They are meaningful only if he has a JustUs department willing to enforce them.

They are meaningful only if he has in place a militarized police ready to enforce them.

They are meaningful only if has a percentage of the medical industry ready to cooperate... lets say those interested in furthering the socialized vision he is diligently pursuing.

The agenda is to go after veterans and take arms out of the hands of the most experienced patriots among us.

The agenda is to go after the Oath Keepers who would act in defiance of their goals.

This man needs to be impeached for his complete disregard for the US Constitution, his acts of lawlessness, his disregard for established law, etc.

It wont happen.

The more he acts in manners like this, the more meaningful his lawlessness becomes and the more dire and desperate the solution to the problem grows.
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Hey, can I come visit you? It's dreary and cold here!
 Quoting: *Rhombus*


As long as you don't require water to survive...lol

It's sunny today will be about 70...but we are running out of water..
 Quoting: *Evan


Hmmm. I'll bring a truckful of snow with me. Problem solved!
 Quoting: *Rhombus*


lol, there ya go.

We are going to the coast on vaca for a week in Feb. My 10 yr annversary. I'm looking forward to that R&R on the beach
 Quoting: *Evan


Nice! Congrats on 10 years...she's a patient, I mean lucky woman.
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Yet another act of Treason for witch Obama should be in Jail.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51707134


The fact that this man is even LOOSE, let alone allowed to continue as president of the USA, is so utterly fucking outrageous, it defies all imaginable logic.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53611085


It's not only the President, the Congress and Supreme court are part of the same group of turds!
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I won't argue with you.

99.9999% of our problems, were gathered in the same room last Tuesday night.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53611085


moshpit
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This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database...
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I have not been asked yet, but I do not see my doctor often at all. If asked about my firearms I will not answer that question, it is an invasion of my privacy.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


Here is where I see the problem. If you refuse to answer, they have to check a box, YES or NO. They do not have the option for no answer, refused to reply, etc. We were told this explicitly. The second question is, and I'm not sure the legality or long term repercussions, is if you lie and say NO, what is the recourse, as this is now federal law?
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This is really important. This order violates the publics right to privacy when they go to see their doctor. It isn't just about gun control, its about control of all the people. This needs to be pinned.
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This is the end of Patient-Doctor privilege. Period.

Just one more of our age-old protections being rent asunder by these bastards... but no matter. You can't beat a dead horse, and this country is about to keel over and demonstrate that it is quite dead.
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This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database...
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thisqueen
Mr. Rhombus wrote and EMR program back in 2001 but ended up pursuing other business opportunities, largely because he could see the nightmare potential even back then.
 Quoting: *Rhombus*


I never used to go to the doctor, but with my recent diagnosis, I have to....well, maybe not. I think I can just come up with my own treatment plan...this makes me really not want to go..
 Quoting: *Evan


Wait, what? What's wrong??
 Quoting: *Rhombus*


Nothing huge, not terminal or anything lol

I have AS, it's an inflammmatory disease that attacks the spine. I have had back pain for about 5 yrs, I changed beds like 4 times thinking it was my bed, because most my pain is at night in in the morning...

Turns out it was this AS. It causes the bones in your lower back to fuse together, eventually leading to being crippled. If I don't take care of it properly. With the right work out plan and diet, it really slows the progression of it.
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Live! President Obama answers America's questions on the State of the Union at 2pm ET.....

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Here's the list of Executive orders. Which one is the OP referring to???

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