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Anonymous Coward User ID: 476132 United States 01/31/2014 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama Quietly Uses Executive Orders For Two New Gun Control Laws Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44459042 Already. January 29, 2014 [link to www.mrconservative.com] LET ME REMIND YOU GUYS AGAIN SO GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS EXECUTIVE ORDERS ARE NOT, I REPEAT, NOT LAW. They have no judicial power behind them and therefore, are unenforceable by law. Executive order can only be used to reinforce existing laws. He can write them all day-- THEY ARE MEANINGLESS!! |
*Evan User ID: 43993722 United States 01/31/2014 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What sucks is, even if we get a radically different potus next time..(which is unlikely anyway) This wont ever be changed back. No potus ever goes back and undoes the damage from the potus before. They will campaign on how ridiculous it is, but will never undo it. It just becomes the new norm. The executive branch especially doesn't like to give up power already obtained. Quoting: *Evan So unless the people do something, it will just be the new normal. As evidenced by the chain of events in my previous post. They simply twist and bend existing policies to suit their own agenda. And add many of their own for the next administration to manipulate, of course. Yes maam. |
KimmieAnnaJones User ID: 11936594 United States 01/31/2014 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What are the EO numbers? "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM Vote for people that have a track record for loving your Constitution or lose your country forever!!! Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!! :militia: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4022074 United States 01/31/2014 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The first step in gun control is to identify gun holders and start accounting for guns. Next would be to make it so weapons equal to or capable of adequate defense against the government (assault type,) are greatly restricted or illegal. Now all they have to do to win this battle is get half of the population's equalizers out of the way by banning at least assault weapons completely in some of the most manor cities. You know, the ones with horrible violence problems which seem almost instigated and are certainly perpetuated. |
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*Rhombus* User ID: 53671501 United States 01/31/2014 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What sucks is, even if we get a radically different potus next time..(which is unlikely anyway) This wont ever be changed back. No potus ever goes back and undoes the damage from the potus before. They will campaign on how ridiculous it is, but will never undo it. It just becomes the new norm. The executive branch especially doesn't like to give up power already obtained. Quoting: *Evan So unless the people do something, it will just be the new normal. As evidenced by the chain of events in my previous post. They simply twist and bend existing policies to suit their own agenda. And add many of their own for the next administration to manipulate, of course. Yes maam. Hey, can I come visit you? It's dreary and cold here! I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44911719 Guatemala 01/31/2014 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What sucks is, even if we get a radically different potus next time..(which is unlikely anyway) This wont ever be changed back. No potus ever goes back and undoes the damage from the potus before. They will campaign on how ridiculous it is, but will never undo it. It just becomes the new norm. The executive branch especially doesn't like to give up power already obtained. Quoting: *Evan So unless the people do something, it will just be the new normal. Don't hold your breath waiting for Boner to do anything about it. |
Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States 01/31/2014 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364 I have not been asked yet, but I do not see my doctor often at all. If asked about my firearms I will not answer that question, it is an invasion of my privacy. |
KimmieAnnaJones User ID: 11936594 United States 01/31/2014 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe this page has not been updated? [link to www.whitehouse.gov] "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM Vote for people that have a track record for loving your Constitution or lose your country forever!!! Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!! :militia: |
*Evan User ID: 43993722 United States 01/31/2014 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What sucks is, even if we get a radically different potus next time..(which is unlikely anyway) This wont ever be changed back. No potus ever goes back and undoes the damage from the potus before. They will campaign on how ridiculous it is, but will never undo it. It just becomes the new norm. The executive branch especially doesn't like to give up power already obtained. Quoting: *Evan So unless the people do something, it will just be the new normal. As evidenced by the chain of events in my previous post. They simply twist and bend existing policies to suit their own agenda. And add many of their own for the next administration to manipulate, of course. Yes maam. Hey, can I come visit you? It's dreary and cold here! As long as you don't require water to survive...lol It's sunny today will be about 70...but we are running out of water.. |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 52849828 United States 01/31/2014 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that this man is even LOOSE, let alone allowed to continue as president of the USA, is so utterly fucking outrageous, it defies all imaginable logic. It's not only the President, the Congress and Supreme court are part of the same group of turds! I won't argue with you. 99.9999% of our problems, were gathered in the same room last Tuesday night. That thought was occurring to me at the same time. Where the heck was one of those darned weaponized drones when we could have REALLY used it? Or a ball of lightning from Heaven above? Or even a bunch of farting cows, like the ones which blew up that barn in Germany? But NOOOOO...!! "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
*Evan User ID: 43993722 United States 01/31/2014 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What sucks is, even if we get a radically different potus next time..(which is unlikely anyway) This wont ever be changed back. No potus ever goes back and undoes the damage from the potus before. They will campaign on how ridiculous it is, but will never undo it. It just becomes the new norm. The executive branch especially doesn't like to give up power already obtained. Quoting: *Evan So unless the people do something, it will just be the new normal. Don't hold your breath waiting for Boner to do anything about it. Yea, exactly |
*Rhombus* User ID: 53237315 United States 01/31/2014 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364 Mr. Rhombus wrote and EMR program back in 2001 but ended up pursuing other business opportunities, largely because he could see the nightmare potential even back then. I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
*Rhombus* User ID: 53237315 United States 01/31/2014 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: *Rhombus* As evidenced by the chain of events in my previous post. They simply twist and bend existing policies to suit their own agenda. And add many of their own for the next administration to manipulate, of course. Yes maam. Hey, can I come visit you? It's dreary and cold here! As long as you don't require water to survive...lol It's sunny today will be about 70...but we are running out of water.. Hmmm. I'll bring a truckful of snow with me. Problem solved! I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
KimmieAnnaJones User ID: 11936594 United States 01/31/2014 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Uh.... guys???? Where are these 2 "Excutive Orders" that are being used as suggested in the title? Last Edited by KimmieAnnaJones on 01/31/2014 11:55 AM "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come." - I AM Vote for people that have a track record for loving your Constitution or lose your country forever!!! Put down the damn touchy feely koolaid and WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!! :militia: |
*Evan User ID: 43993722 United States 01/31/2014 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364 Mr. Rhombus wrote and EMR program back in 2001 but ended up pursuing other business opportunities, largely because he could see the nightmare potential even back then. I never used to go to the doctor, but with my recent diagnosis, I have to....well, maybe not. I think I can just come up with my own treatment plan...this makes me really not want to go.. |
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*Evan User ID: 43993722 United States 01/31/2014 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As long as you don't require water to survive...lol It's sunny today will be about 70...but we are running out of water.. Hmmm. I'll bring a truckful of snow with me. Problem solved! lol, there ya go. We are going to the coast on vaca for a week in Feb. My 10 yr annversary. I'm looking forward to that R&R on the beach |
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*Rhombus* User ID: 53671501 United States 01/31/2014 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364 Mr. Rhombus wrote and EMR program back in 2001 but ended up pursuing other business opportunities, largely because he could see the nightmare potential even back then. I never used to go to the doctor, but with my recent diagnosis, I have to....well, maybe not. I think I can just come up with my own treatment plan...this makes me really not want to go.. Wait, what? What's wrong?? I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
Mr. Toppit User ID: 53377631 United States 01/31/2014 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364 I have not been asked yet, but I do not see my doctor often at all. If asked about my firearms I will not answer that question, it is an invasion of my privacy. MY wife went to a Dr. once and he demanded her SS number. When she said that wasn't required under the law. he threw her out of his office. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8547422 United States 01/31/2014 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obama Quietly Uses Executive Orders For Two New Gun Control Laws Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44459042 Already. January 29, 2014 [link to www.mrconservative.com] LET ME REMIND YOU GUYS AGAIN SO GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS EXECUTIVE ORDERS ARE NOT, I REPEAT, NOT LAW. They have no judicial power behind them and therefore, are unenforceable by law. Executive order can only be used to reinforce existing laws. He can write them all day-- THEY ARE MEANINGLESS!! You're right, they aren't law. They are edict. They are meaningful only if he has a JustUs department willing to enforce them. They are meaningful only if he has in place a militarized police ready to enforce them. They are meaningful only if has a percentage of the medical industry ready to cooperate... lets say those interested in furthering the socialized vision he is diligently pursuing. The agenda is to go after veterans and take arms out of the hands of the most experienced patriots among us. The agenda is to go after the Oath Keepers who would act in defiance of their goals. This man needs to be impeached for his complete disregard for the US Constitution, his acts of lawlessness, his disregard for established law, etc. It wont happen. The more he acts in manners like this, the more meaningful his lawlessness becomes and the more dire and desperate the solution to the problem grows. |
*Rhombus* User ID: 53671501 United States 01/31/2014 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As long as you don't require water to survive...lol It's sunny today will be about 70...but we are running out of water.. Hmmm. I'll bring a truckful of snow with me. Problem solved! lol, there ya go. We are going to the coast on vaca for a week in Feb. My 10 yr annversary. I'm looking forward to that R&R on the beach Nice! Congrats on 10 years...she's a patient, I mean lucky woman. I don't know where you get your delusions, laser brain. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1065356 United States 01/31/2014 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that this man is even LOOSE, let alone allowed to continue as president of the USA, is so utterly fucking outrageous, it defies all imaginable logic. It's not only the President, the Congress and Supreme court are part of the same group of turds! I won't argue with you. 99.9999% of our problems, were gathered in the same room last Tuesday night. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1003364 United States 01/31/2014 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364 I have not been asked yet, but I do not see my doctor often at all. If asked about my firearms I will not answer that question, it is an invasion of my privacy. Here is where I see the problem. If you refuse to answer, they have to check a box, YES or NO. They do not have the option for no answer, refused to reply, etc. We were told this explicitly. The second question is, and I'm not sure the legality or long term repercussions, is if you lie and say NO, what is the recourse, as this is now federal law? |
BattlesightZero User ID: 53226484 United States 01/31/2014 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is really important. This order violates the publics right to privacy when they go to see their doctor. It isn't just about gun control, its about control of all the people. This needs to be pinned. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37700973 This is the end of Patient-Doctor privilege. Period. Just one more of our age-old protections being rent asunder by these bastards... but no matter. You can't beat a dead horse, and this country is about to keel over and demonstrate that it is quite dead. BattlesightZero YOU, and only YOU are responsible for maintaining the balance of power between you and the rest of the semi-sentient beings in this world. You cannot disclaim or delegate that responsibility; it is a function of being a living, breathing "adult" in this world. If you can't manage yourself on those terms, someone else *will* manage you on their terms. Your terms are irrelevant. Buy a rifle; prepare to defend yourself. If you don't, what happens is *your* fault. Period. |
*Evan User ID: 43993722 United States 01/31/2014 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is not just if you have the new health care. The AHCA has mandated ALL doctors offices to streamline all data to a national database. Those who refuse risk not getting paid out my govt insurance, and even private insurance companies are putting extreme pressure on private practice. I have a fmaily member who is an administrator for a large hospital and all records for current walk ins are transmitted electronically, all previous records are to be scanned in. ALL private companies who take insurance, either private or government are making the transition. BY LAW, under the AHCA, they have to ask you a series of questions, which are transmitted to the AHCA national database... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003364 Mr. Rhombus wrote and EMR program back in 2001 but ended up pursuing other business opportunities, largely because he could see the nightmare potential even back then. I never used to go to the doctor, but with my recent diagnosis, I have to....well, maybe not. I think I can just come up with my own treatment plan...this makes me really not want to go.. Wait, what? What's wrong?? Nothing huge, not terminal or anything lol I have AS, it's an inflammmatory disease that attacks the spine. I have had back pain for about 5 yrs, I changed beds like 4 times thinking it was my bed, because most my pain is at night in in the morning... Turns out it was this AS. It causes the bones in your lower back to fuse together, eventually leading to being crippled. If I don't take care of it properly. With the right work out plan and diet, it really slows the progression of it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20253736 United States 01/31/2014 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here's the list of Executive orders. Which one is the OP referring to??? [link to www.whitehouse.gov] |