So I am tired of hearing on GLP, that aliens are demons.

I am one,so I can't speak for the rest....just weed them out.

take care

While researching "djinn" I realized that must be where the "aliens are demons" thing came from. They seem to lump most otherworldly creatures into "djinn" like fairies, elves, even spirits and "aliens" at least some that I heard. Even though there are light and dark djinn according to them, they still see them as djinn (those beings made of 'fire' who were created before man was made of clay.) So maybe they are all related to what some people know as Angels ('light being'). But to me an alien is a lot different than a fairy and a fairy is much different than a ghost or spirit. To say there are no ghosts and they are just djinn pretending to be a ghost or a djinn in disguise is silly to me since I remember between my past lives and being a ghost. I don't think aliens originated on another planet. I think the greys live here underground and are just an offshoot of humanity. If you look at them, they are basically humans with a few minor differences. They are also seen entering and leaving the water, not outer space. (Aquatic ape theory.) Even in the bible it says angels mated with humans. There must be many different types of djinn/angelic/human muts and a huge spectrum along the way of fire/clay/hybrid beings.

open the portals!

My reply in another thread to a similar topic:
Thread: The Anunnaki Built The Pyramids -- Evidence (Page 3)

You can ONLY be tired of it, if you know it's untrue.

Agreed - it's no different than how we were so damn certain the world was flat

why is this hard to believe?

Why assume that aliens are physical?

Why assume alien beings can only come from another physical planet in a flying machine?

Nah.

"Angels" (the beings being described) were/are aliens.
"Demons" (the beings being described) were/are aliens.

The bible is basically a historical record of encounters with aliens.

Like PEOPLE there are good, bad, and neutral aliens. But they are not people, they are not Gods, they are not supernatural, they are just material beings that are different in a lot of ways.

Actually the grey species on this planet don't come from an "earth like" planet. That's why they don't look like humans. You know...because evolution.

I can't really state why people call them "angels" and "demons" though. If you look at stories about both you can probably figure it out. Remember, djinn are reported to be mischievous not necessarily evil or violent.

I don't think they would be interested in interbreeding unless they had physical bodies. Just sayin.

Only the reptilian aliens are demons, they are working together for our worst.

I think that if you will not believe in Jesus Christ then you will believe whatever of Satans lies the Lord chooses for you to believe. And serve you right too.

2Th 2:5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

2Th 2:6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

2Th 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

2Th 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

2Th 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

2Th 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

2Th 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Demons are not fallen angels. They are the spirits of the dead nephilim. The Nephilim are the offspring of angels and humans. The ancients Nephilim were giants, which is mentioned in the Bible. The Sons of God are the angels, whether they are fallen or not. The Sons of God are mentioned in Genesis chapter six and twice in the book of Job.

The spirits of the dead Nephilim roam the earth looking for a body to possess. The word demon is not in the Bible. When someone was possessed the spirit was called unclean, foul and disembodied. Since they are not a creation of Gods' they do no go to Heaven or Hell when they die.

Aliens are fallen and unfallen angels. They are also anything else that existed in this universe before God created Man.

You really suck at loving Gods creation

Tired or not, there are no aliens. there are demons.

Yup... That's just silly talk!

It's gonna really suck for them when the interdimensional sht jumps off.

I remember when science claimed there were less than a billion stars and now you are saying "billions of earth like planets"

science is not trustworthy.

science or faith. What do you guys trust more? lol

Is the UFO Phenomenon real?
Is there other life in the universe?
Is the alien abduction experience real?
Are people really taken somewhere during an abduction event?
Is Hollywood telling us the truth about extraterrestrials?
Are aliens and UFOs in the Bible?
Why is this important to the church?
Does the Bible have the answer to the extraterrestrial question?

You will find the answers to these questions and more as you explore this website.

FACT: Based on polls, over 60% of the population believes that there is likely alien life in outer space. Around 48% of the population believes that aliens from outer space may be visiting the Earth in UFOs, and 12% claim to have seen a UFO.

FACT: A 1991 Roper poll estimated that 4 million people in the US may have had an “alien abduction” experience (2% of the population).

FACT: Modern documented reports of alien’s activities and abilities parallel the abilities of (fallen) angels as seen in the Bible.

FACT: Alien abduction experiences can be terminated in the name of Jesus Christ.

FACT: Documented messages of “aliens” to contactees and abductees reveal an undeniably spiritual agenda…

What is that agenda? Our site represents over 30 years of combined research into the UFO and alien phenomena, interviews with hundreds of alien abductees, travel to dozens of UFO conferences to hear out the world’s “top speakers” and many years of public teaching on the topics, entertaining questions from people all over the world.

We once had the same questions as you, and now we freely share the answers to those questions. Deceptive spiritual entities are posing as modern day “aliens”, bringing tormenting experiences into the lives of individuals, and offering a false gospel message, in opposition to the true message of Jesus Christ.

We invite you to educate yourself via the links on this website, resist the deception, and share this information with others.
[link to www.alienresistance.org]

UFO & Alien Deception


UFOs and Aliens – Spiritual Deception

Our goal is to present Biblical evidence that the phenomena and entities commonly referred to as “aliens” by popular culture are indeed spiritual in nature – opposed to genuinely extra-terrestrial – and is best described as the activity of “fallen angels” intent on deceiving mankind away from a knowledge of the true God and gospel of His Son, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel… let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8)

Malone asks ”Do certain Christians say aliens are really demons based simply on an uninformed knee-jerk reaction to the unknown”

No. In fact, many theologians have historically argued that God could easily have created life on other planets, if He so chose. But what does an examination of 20th century sighting and abduction reports reveal? This video provides an overview of the messages, actions and abilities demonstrated by modern “aliens” with insight into the scriptural and theological arguments that logically support the fallen angel interpretation of the phenomena. You will better understand WHY many with a Biblical worldview have concluded that “alien” activity is a fallen angelic deception, and ultimately consider the reasoning behind the “demonic hypothesis” to be much more convincing than you thought possible.
[link to www.alienresistance.org]

Christian Ufology Research


An Overview of Christian Research
Part 3

Let me say that for most Christians, whether God could have created life on other planets is not even a question – it’s a non sequitur really – nobody doubts that God can do whatever he wants to. But in light of all the paranormal phenomena that’s been documented in the last century – specifically so many thousands of extremely well-documented cases of beings claiming to be aliens – the question really becomes…
“Is the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis the best explanation for the reported alien abductions and UFO sighting phenomena?”

After researching the topic thoroughly the consensus among Christian researchers is that the answer is a resounding No.
The evidence which Christian researchers have documented over the decades to arrive at what’s known as the “Demonic Hypothesis”, include the facts that:


1) “Alien Abductions” stop in the name and authority of Jesus Christ, and can be terminated as a pattern in a person’s life.

This first point has been documented by Joe Jordan, who started as a MUFON researcher in 1992. After years of focusing on UFO sightings, in 1997 he co-founded the CE4 Research Group, to focus more on research pertaining to “alien abduction” reports. Their research has been documented in over a dozen books mostly by Christian authors, that there are hundreds of abduction experiences that have been stopped by using the name and authority of Jesus Christ. Of the hundreds of cases the CE4 Research Group has worked with since 1997 who have been able to terminate the alien abduction experience in their life, over 95 former abductees have allowed them to share their personal testimonies on the CE4 Research Website. For many people, this research actually settles the issue, proving that the experience is spiritual in nature, and not genuinely extra-terrestrial.

You can read a synopsis of their research findings on the CE4 Research Group website: www.CE4Research.com
And their collection of testimonies of former abductees are online to read and listen to here:
CE4 Research Group – Former Abductee Testimonies

Or continue to Part 4: “Alien Abductions” Stop in the Name and Authority of Jesus Christ



2) “Alien Abductions” match the abilities of fallen angels as described in the Bible.

The second point has been elaborated on in detail by researcher Paradox Brown, in her online book, “The Bible Physics and the Abilities of Fallen Angels”. When the biblical accounts of interactions with angels and fallen angels are compared to modern alien abduction case reports, it becomes clear that the abilities of fallen angels as described in the Bible can explain what abductees experience in their encounters. She summarizes,


“The Bible summarily teaches several things about Visions caused by angels… The Bible teaches that Fallen angels can cause False dreams and False Visions. In False Visions causes by Fallen angels:

1. A Vision can seem totally real to a single bodily sense (like sight) or to all of the bodily senses, and a person’s self-perception is usually that they are in their body.
2. A Vision can affect one person or multiple people, though they may perceive it differently
3. A Vision can occur in a waking state, or in a trance state
4. A Vision can be causes by a visible angel, or an invisible angel
5. A Vision can involve some physical effects that remain afterwards, such as objects that remain with a person, and bodily effects, even internal ones.
6. A Vision can involve manipulation of a person’s perception of time, like an hour in a minute.
7. A Vision can contain just about any landscape, or any sort of characters, and can seem to involve travel, even though the person doesn’t actually go anywhere
8. A Vision can seem so real to the bodily senses that it is indistinguishable from reality, even in the case of people who are experienced with Visions, though God knows and can reveal the truth

… Beyond false messages which fallen angels can communicate in False Visions or dreams, they can also use False Visions and dreams to simply harass and frighten people, to a terrible extent… the Bible teaches that fallen angels can victimize people with their ability to cause dreams and Visions, using these to scare and terrify, even to the point of severe traumatization from them… fallen angels can also cause False Dreams and False Visions to communicate a lying or deceptive message, false information, to a person with the intent that the person might become a false prophet, who shares the false message as truth… after looking at several “alien abduction” cases it seems that the abilities of Fallen angels to cause False Visions (and all that entails) and terrifying dreams, as well as elements of Physical manifestation, are sufficient to explain what abductees experience.”
-The Bible, Physics, and the Abilities of Fallen Angels, by Paradox Brown


Along the same lines, Dr. David Allen Lewis and Robert Shreckhise wrote in the early 90′s


“The point to all of this is that a spiritual explanation fits entirely with the UFO effects. Beings from a higher dimensional plane than our own, who are able to manipulate energy, could generate an appearance of mass, speed, and physical effects. Given the ability of deceptive manipulation of the minds of people, they could also give an impression of alien entities, actual physical contact, and what their ships look like on the inside. The ability of Satan to manipulate the minds of people, especially those who reject the Creator, is documented not only in the Bible, but in actual case histories.”
-UFO: End-Time Delusion, by David Allen Lewis & Robert Shreckhise, pg.129

You can read a detailed Bible study on the abilities of fallen angels, along with a comparison to modern alien abduction case reports, here:

Part 5: “Alien Abductions” Match the Abilities of Fallen Angels as Described in the Bible




3) “Aliens” bring primarily deceptive anti-biblical messages, as is reported by abductees and contactees.

After reading through the documentation of what abductees and contactees report that the “aliens” tell them, it becomes clear that either the aliens are right and they’re telling people the truth, which means that everything the Christian church teaches about God and the Bible is a lie, or the Bible is right, God is true, and the aliens are lying. The aliens’ messages are “concerned primarily” with indoctrinating us to misunderstand, dismiss, and ignore what the Bible actually says about Jesus Christ, The Bible, God, and especially about the Last Days, and to trust in them. To sort of sum it up, let me submit to you the conclusions of some other well-known Christian authors who have studied this same material.


“An examination of the evidence indicates beyond any doubt that a primary agenda of the alien visitors - whoever or whatever they are - is to change what human beings think about God and His Word (the Bible) and to replace exclusive Christianity with a religion of universalism.”
-Ron Rhodes “Alien Obsession” -drawing on Bill Alnor PhD’s “UFOs in the New Age”

“If the alleged messages that contactees are receiving are true, then the Bible is not true. God is not what or who we think He is. Christianity must be radically altered to fit the new paradigm.”
-David Allen Lewis & Robert Shreckhise “UFO: End Time Delusion” from the Introduction

You can read a detailed study of the deceptive anti-biblical messages which abductees and contactees receive, here:

Part 6: The Deceptive Anti-biblical Messages of “Aliens” as Reported by Abductees and Contactees
[link to www.alienresistance.org]

Secular Ufology Research


Secular Researchers’ Findings that UFO Activity is Not Extraterrestrial in Origin
Part 2


I’ll be sharing a few quotes from the very famous but now deceased scientist Carl Sagan. And I want to point out first that Dr. Sagan was not a debunker on the possibility of extra-terrestrial life. He was a strong supporter of the SETI project (Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence), and his book “Contact” was the basis of the major motion picture by the same name. The story was of first contact with an extraterrestrial race, which happened through the means of a signal from aliens received by SETI. According to Dr. Carl Sagan, “The available evidence strongly suggests that the origins of life should occur given the initial conditions and a billion years of evolutionary time.”

Now, many Christians in general, myself included, do not believe in the theory of evolution. My point is simply showing that despite being friendly to the possibility of extra-terrestrial life having evolved elsewhere in the universe, when Carl Sagan extensively studied the details about the large numbers modern reports of UFOs which he had access to, he called it psuedo-science.

“pseudosciences… pseudoscientific doctrines… that alien beings from distant worlds visit the Earth with casual impunity.”
(Dr. Carl Sagan The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark, pg 43)

He did not find it rational to believe that aliens were visiting us with what he called “casual impunity.” He also wrote,

“A 1969 Study by the National Academy of Sciences, while recognizing there are reports “not easily explained,” concluded that “the least likely explanation of UFOs is the hypothesis of extraterrestrial visitations by intelligent beings… Think of how many other “explanations” there might be: time travelers; demons… tourists from another dimension… the souls of the dead;… Each of these “explanations” has been seriously proffered…. “Least likely” is really saying something.”
(Dr. Carl Sagan The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark, pp 93-94)

Arthur C. Clark was a British science fiction author and inventor, who held degrees in both mathematics and physics. He is famous for his short stories and novels, among them “2001: A Space Odyssey”. For many years, Robert A. Heinlein, Isaac Asimov, and Arthur C. Clarke were known as the “Big Three” of science fiction. Clarke was and is arguably one of the most famous science fiction authors of all time. He said:

“One theory which can no longer be taken very seriously is that UFOs are interstellar spaceships.”

I think it’s fair to say he probably made a chunk of change writing about aliens visiting earth, as fictional, but he also honestly didn’t think what we earthlings are currently experiencing actually was aliens from space either.

Here’s from someone you may not have heard of, but from the book One in Forty I mentioned earlier. Non-Christian author Preston Dennit says,

“It cannot be denied that there is a connection between UFO encounters and psychic phenomena… UFO abductees have reported being plagued with all sorts of paranormal manifestations following their UFO experience…. objects moving by themselves, … ghostly footsteps, apparitions, doors opening and closing by themselves, precognitive dreams, telepathy, telekinesis — the list is endless… Many ufologists ignore this aspect of ufology in an attempt to draw the subject out of the occult…They refuse to use all the evidence presented to make a theory which explains all aspects of the reported phenomena. Instead they choose those aspects that would prove their theory, while ignoring the evidence that contradicts their theory… UFOs will never be explained until the psychic aspect of UFOs is also explained.”
One in Forty – The UFO Epidemic: True Accounts of Close Encounters with UFO’s pg 269

























Dr. Jacques Vallee, one of the pioneers of secular UFO researchers, worked partly with the U.S. government along with Project Blue Book’s Hynek. You might call Vallee and Hynek the founding fathers of scientific UFO study. Vallee is the author of 10 books on the scientific study UFOs, he helped coin the phrase in the 1970′s “the inter-dimensional hypothesis” to explain UFO activity.

You don’t know you know him, but Vallee was the inspiration for the scientist character in Stephen Spielberg’s movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

In a Conspire.com interview, Vallee expressed that he thought some external force was causing people what he called “induced hallucinations.”

“…it’s quite possible that some of the stories that you get from people are essentially induced hallucinations in sincere witnesses – the witnesses are not lying. They really have been exposed to something genuine…”

It’s not that the UFO witnesses were lying (he said) but that only they saw something that wasn’t really there, at least in the physical sense of a nuts and bolt saucer.

Valle, pictured here with Dr Hynek presented to the United Nations on their UFO research in 1978, wrote,

“The ‘medical examination’ to which abductees are said to be subjected, often accompanied by sadistic sexual manipulation, is reminiscent of the medieval tales of encounters with demons. It makes no sense in a sophisticated or technical framework: any intelligent being equipped with the scientific marvels that UFOs possess would be in a position to achieve any of these alleged scientific objectives in a shorter time and with fewer risks.”
(Dr. Jacques Vallee CONFRONTATIONS: A Scientist’s Search for Alien Contact pg. 13)

John Keel, an influential journalist and ufologist, and the author of The Mothman Prophecies (the basis of the film by the same name) wrote succinctly,

“The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon.”
(John A. Keel, Operation Trojan Horse pg. 299)

Which brings us to our third point:

Part 3: Overview of Reasons Many Christians Think the Phenomena is Demonic/Fallen Angels
[link to www.alienresistance.org]

I'm sick of their BS also, OP. "My imaginary friend beats out whatever belief you have."

Just. Stop.

faith is all we have.

most of us can't even explain how our computers or TVs work. how can any of us explain the universe?

listen here you dense religitard....there are BILLIONS of other habitable planets. you mean to tell me you think earthlings are the ONLY creatures in the entire universe THAT ISN'T A DEMON?

the stupid, it burns

No more fun?




Test my magick!!!! lol

I don't believe we're the only ones out there, but I believe the "Aliens" visiting our planet are fallen angels.
Too many people have called out to Christ during an abduction which, after that the aliens stop. There have also been rumors that they smell like sulfur. Plus I have had my own experiences with demons.

Well there's a reason for that particular endless line of bullshit you know... along with all the other crap we're force-fed from the Christers.

It's because Christians are simple minded hypocrites, who for some reason thought adopting the bronze age superstitions of a group of ignorant thieving Jewish goat-herders was the singular great revelation of eternity.

Fear and Ignorance are powerful motivators, it would appear.

40922034, You are my hero!