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Israel, the true story about this name as told in Genesis 32

 
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Israel, the true story about this name as told in Genesis 32
Gen 32:25 When the man saw that he could not defeat Jacob, he struck the socket of his hip so the socket of Jacob's hip was dislocated while he wrestled with him.

Gen 32:28 "Your name will no longer be Jacob," the man told him. "From now on you will be called Israel..."

Gen 32:31 The sun rose upon him as he passed Penuel, limping because of his hip.

Gen 32:32 "Therefore the children of Israel eat not of the sinew which shrank, which is upon the hollow of the thigh" (LOL)

There is no doubt, as to what the "sinew which shrank" is, when its location between the hollow of the thighs. Nor there's any doubt why after Jacob's hip was dislocated he was limping.
And the place on which his penis fell was called Penuel (Penis-El).
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Go ahead and laugh.... We'll see how funny thing are in your life when water becomes more precious than gold and your family willing to sell you out for a slice of bread...

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BTW, the last son of Jacob was born after this incident and, obviously, it was not really his son, but rather the son of the guy who fought with him, his brother Esau. His name was Benjamin and from his tribe, that was later allmo st exterminated by the other tribes, originated the sodomites from Sodom and Gomorraj.
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Genesis 25

3And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

24And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

25And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

26And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

27And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

This story is in fact about two races, the hairy redhead Esau belonged to the Rephaim/Nephilim race. Benjamin and his tribe inherited his strenght and wickedness.
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Go ahead and laugh.... We'll see how funny thing are in your life when water becomes more precious than gold and your family willing to sell you out for a slice of bread...

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wtf
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Go ahead and laugh.... We'll see how funny thing are in your life when water becomes more precious than gold and your family willing to sell you out for a slice of bread...

...books are sign post pointing to the Ultimacy Of The Trinity...

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wtf
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He's talking about this:
Thread: It has started. California is officially running out of Water

They are poised to cause a water shortage by using it in fracking and other practices like this:
Thread: Google investing in pumping water into an Oregon volcano!?
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Re: Israel, the true story about this name as told in Genesis 32
Jacob's life was saved by God, therefore he was called Yiśrā'el.
Israēl, from Hebrew yiśrā'ēl, God has striven, God has saved : yiśrā, he has striven, saved.
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Jacob's life was saved by God, therefore he was called Yisra'el.
Israel, from Hebrew yisra'el, God has striven, God has saved : yisra, he has striven, saved.
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Go ahead and laugh.... We'll see how funny thing are in your life when water becomes more precious than gold and your family willing to sell you out for a slice of bread...

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White people always want shit to collapse after they lose control. It WON'T.
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Genesis 25

3And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

24And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

25And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

26And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

27And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

This story is in fact about two races, the hairy redhead Esau belonged to the Rephaim/Nephilim race. Benjamin and his tribe inherited his strenght and wickedness.
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This makes no sense at all, why would you say Esau is nephilim race, he has the same parents and geneaoloy as Jacob. So to say he is nephilim is to also say Jacob is nephilim as well, which is impossible because Jesus had to come from Jacob.

And no, there's no way you can call redheads a wicked and evil race, if anything they are the nicest people on the planet and the only people capable of making what Christ called a "kingdom of heaven" because of their generosity and empathy.

IMO probably all the people in the Adamic seedline are probably red haired. Jacob was probably red haired too but maybe not as red as Esau was. Or he probably wasn't as hairy so it wasn't as noticeable.
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Re: Israel, the true story about this name as told in Genesis 32
Gen 32:31 The sun rose upon him as he passed Penuel, limping because of his hip.

Gen 32:32 "Therefore the children of Israel eat not of the sinew which shrank, which is upon the hollow of the thigh" (LOL)

There is no doubt, as to what the "sinew which shrank" is, when its location between the hollow of the thighs. Nor there's any doubt why after Jacob's hip was dislocated he was limping.
And the place on which his penis fell was called Penuel (Penis-El).
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Sounds like a Homosexual Assault to me?
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Gen 32:25 When the man saw that he could not defeat Jacob, he struck the socket of his hip so the socket of Jacob's hip was dislocated while he wrestled with him.

Gen 32:28 "Your name will no longer be Jacob," the man told him. "From now on you will be called Israel..."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Now this sounds like he took a knee to the Gonads.

Then his opponent said From now on, I'm going to call you BITCH?

Or Sloppy Bitch?
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BTW, the last son of Jacob was born after this incident and, obviously, it was not really his son, but rather the son of the guy who fought with him, his brother Esau. His name was Benjamin and from his tribe, that was later allmo st exterminated by the other tribes, originated the sodomites from Sodom and Gomorraj.
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Very interesting OP.

Please clarify this.

The last son was born of the Angel of the Lord who fought Jacob or Jacob's brother Esau?

hf
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Genesis 25

3And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

24And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

25And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

26And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

27And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

This story is in fact about two races, the hairy redhead Esau belonged to the Rephaim/Nephilim race. Benjamin and his tribe inherited his strenght and wickedness.
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This makes no sense at all, why would you say Esau is nephilim race, he has the same parents and geneaoloy as Jacob. So to say he is nephilim is to also say Jacob is nephilim as well, which is impossible because Jesus had to come from Jacob.

And no, there's no way you can call redheads a wicked and evil race, if anything they are the nicest people on the planet and the only people capable of making what Christ called a "kingdom of heaven" because of their generosity and empathy.

IMO probably all the people in the Adamic seedline are probably red haired. Jacob was probably red haired too but maybe not as red as Esau was. Or he probably wasn't as hairy so it wasn't as noticeable.
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You need to open your spiritual eye to understand the things of the spiritual nature.

The Lord of the bible Hates Esau. He said very clearly that since day one I have hated Esau. If Esau is Issac's son, why does the Lord hate him?

Its because Esau is NOT the son of Issac but the seed of Satan just like Cain was the seed of Satan.

Dig deeper...google the seed of Satan doctrine and youtube the seed of Cain doctrine and you will understand who Esau was. He was from the bloodline of Cain who not Adam's son but of Satan and Eve's son.

goodnews
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Genesis 25

3And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

24And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

25And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

26And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

27And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

This story is in fact about two races, the hairy redhead Esau belonged to the Rephaim/Nephilim race. Benjamin and his tribe inherited his strenght and wickedness.
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This makes no sense at all, why would you say Esau is nephilim race, he has the same parents and geneaoloy as Jacob. So to say he is nephilim is to also say Jacob is nephilim as well, which is impossible because Jesus had to come from Jacob.

And no, there's no way you can call redheads a wicked and evil race, if anything they are the nicest people on the planet and the only people capable of making what Christ called a "kingdom of heaven" because of their generosity and empathy.

IMO probably all the people in the Adamic seedline are probably red haired. Jacob was probably red haired too but maybe not as red as Esau was. Or he probably wasn't as hairy so it wasn't as noticeable.
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You need to open your spiritual eye to understand the things of the spiritual nature.

The Lord of the bible Hates Esau. He said very clearly that since day one I have hated Esau. If Esau is Issac's son, why does the Lord hate him?

Its because Esau is NOT the son of Issac but the seed of Satan just like Cain was the seed of Satan.

Dig deeper...google the seed of Satan doctrine and youtube the seed of Cain doctrine and you will understand who Esau was. He was from the bloodline of Cain who not Adam's son but of Satan and Eve's son.

goodnews
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I am fully aware of the Serpent Seed doctrine, and I am a believer of it. However, you lose me when you claim every single bad guy in the bible is of the seedline of the Serpent and Cain. Nowhere in the bible does it say Esau was of the seedline of the serpent, or a hybrid nephilim mix or anything like that.

Jahweh simply does not like people who do not respect their birthright, their heritage, their people. And that is the kind of person Esau is.
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BTW, the last son of Jacob was born after this incident and, obviously, it was not really his son, but rather the son of the guy who fought with him, his brother Esau. His name was Benjamin and from his tribe, that was later allmo st exterminated by the other tribes, originated the sodomites from Sodom and Gomorraj.
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Sodom had already been destroyed before Jacob's father Isaac was born.

The only survivors were Lot and his two daughters, who refused to marry non-Sodomites. Instead they had sex with their own father, producing the nations of Moab and Ammon. God forbade the Israelites to intermarry with these descendants of Sodom and incest. When a judge of Israel, Boaz, wanted to marry the Moabite Ruth, they twisted the law and said it was okay to marry a Moabite woman. David was the great-grandson of this union. All the royal families of Europe trace their line to David and hence to Sodom.

Like Lot's daughters, the Royals refuse to marry non-Sodomites or "commoners" as they call us. There was a reason why God wanted to destroy Sodom, but Abraham argued for him to spare Lot. After Abraham saw what Lot had done, he realised that God had reasons for His actions. When God next tested Abraham by calling on him to kill his son Isaac, Abraham respected God's wisdom and prepared to do it. Indeed, as it turned out the people who rule the world now, are descended from Isaac through Boaz and from Sodom through Ruth.
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Genesis 25

3And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

24And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

25And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

26And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

27And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

This story is in fact about two races, the hairy redhead Esau belonged to the Rephaim/Nephilim race. Benjamin and his tribe inherited his strenght and wickedness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50929722


This makes no sense at all, why would you say Esau is nephilim race, he has the same parents and geneaoloy as Jacob. So to say he is nephilim is to also say Jacob is nephilim as well, which is impossible because Jesus had to come from Jacob.

And no, there's no way you can call redheads a wicked and evil race, if anything they are the nicest people on the planet and the only people capable of making what Christ called a "kingdom of heaven" because of their generosity and empathy.

IMO probably all the people in the Adamic seedline are probably red haired. Jacob was probably red haired too but maybe not as red as Esau was. Or he probably wasn't as hairy so it wasn't as noticeable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53756912


You need to open your spiritual eye to understand the things of the spiritual nature.

The Lord of the bible Hates Esau. He said very clearly that since day one I have hated Esau. If Esau is Issac's son, why does the Lord hate him?

Its because Esau is NOT the son of Issac but the seed of Satan just like Cain was the seed of Satan.

Dig deeper...google the seed of Satan doctrine and youtube the seed of Cain doctrine and you will understand who Esau was. He was from the bloodline of Cain who not Adam's son but of Satan and Eve's son.

goodnews
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Esau was from a good line, but he did not care about his people because he married a woman from the serpent seedline of Cain, this is why god hated him. God hates race-mixers. This is what the sin of "fornication" is in the Bible, in most cases that is. It's not having sex before marriage, it's having sex with another race, corrupting your Adamic seedline.
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Genesis 25

3And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

24And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

25And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

26And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

27And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

This story is in fact about two races, the hairy redhead Esau belonged to the Rephaim/Nephilim race. Benjamin and his tribe inherited his strenght and wickedness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50929722


This makes no sense at all, why would you say Esau is nephilim race, he has the same parents and geneaoloy as Jacob. So to say he is nephilim is to also say Jacob is nephilim as well, which is impossible because Jesus had to come from Jacob.

And no, there's no way you can call redheads a wicked and evil race, if anything they are the nicest people on the planet and the only people capable of making what Christ called a "kingdom of heaven" because of their generosity and empathy.

IMO probably all the people in the Adamic seedline are probably red haired. Jacob was probably red haired too but maybe not as red as Esau was. Or he probably wasn't as hairy so it wasn't as noticeable.
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You need to open your spiritual eye to understand the things of the spiritual nature.

The Lord of the bible Hates Esau. He said very clearly that since day one I have hated Esau. If Esau is Issac's son, why does the Lord hate him?

Its because Esau is NOT the son of Issac but the seed of Satan just like Cain was the seed of Satan.

Dig deeper...google the seed of Satan doctrine and youtube the seed of Cain doctrine and you will understand who Esau was. He was from the bloodline of Cain who not Adam's son but of Satan and Eve's son.

goodnews
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I am fully aware of the Serpent Seed doctrine, and I am a believer of it. However, you lose me when you claim every single bad guy in the bible is of the seedline of the Serpent and Cain. Nowhere in the bible does it say Esau was of the seedline of the serpent, or a hybrid nephilim mix or anything like that.

Jahweh simply does not like people who do not respect their birthright, their heritage, their people. And that is the kind of person Esau is.
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The Lord hated Esau even before his birth. He already told his mother that there are 2 nations inside her and the older will serve the younger.

So the Lord already knew who Esau was. Hence he was prevented from getting his father's blessing.

Bad fruit cant come from a good tree. Issac was not the father of Esau. If you believe in the serpent doctrine the you should believe that his children are still alive and thriving. Esau was one of his child, born a twin with Jacob but not of Issac's seed.
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Genesis 25

3And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

24And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

25And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

26And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

27And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

This story is in fact about two races, the hairy redhead Esau belonged to the Rephaim/Nephilim race. Benjamin and his tribe inherited his strenght and wickedness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50929722


This makes no sense at all, why would you say Esau is nephilim race, he has the same parents and geneaoloy as Jacob. So to say he is nephilim is to also say Jacob is nephilim as well, which is impossible because Jesus had to come from Jacob.

And no, there's no way you can call redheads a wicked and evil race, if anything they are the nicest people on the planet and the only people capable of making what Christ called a "kingdom of heaven" because of their generosity and empathy.

IMO probably all the people in the Adamic seedline are probably red haired. Jacob was probably red haired too but maybe not as red as Esau was. Or he probably wasn't as hairy so it wasn't as noticeable.
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You need to open your spiritual eye to understand the things of the spiritual nature.

The Lord of the bible Hates Esau. He said very clearly that since day one I have hated Esau. If Esau is Issac's son, why does the Lord hate him?

Its because Esau is NOT the son of Issac but the seed of Satan just like Cain was the seed of Satan.

Dig deeper...google the seed of Satan doctrine and youtube the seed of Cain doctrine and you will understand who Esau was. He was from the bloodline of Cain who not Adam's son but of Satan and Eve's son.

goodnews
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Esau was from a good line, but he did not care about his people because he married a woman from the serpent seedline of Cain, this is why god hated him. God hates race-mixers. This is what the sin of "fornication" is in the Bible, in most cases that is. It's not having sex before marriage, it's having sex with another race, corrupting your Adamic seedline.
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Those who are born of good seed are not attracted to the bad seed.

Esau was attracted to the serpent seed because he himself was one of them.
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Genesis 25

3And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

24And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

25And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

26And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

27And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

This story is in fact about two races, the hairy redhead Esau belonged to the Rephaim/Nephilim race. Benjamin and his tribe inherited his strenght and wickedness.
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This makes no sense at all, why would you say Esau is nephilim race, he has the same parents and geneaoloy as Jacob. So to say he is nephilim is to also say Jacob is nephilim as well, which is impossible because Jesus had to come from Jacob.

And no, there's no way you can call redheads a wicked and evil race, if anything they are the nicest people on the planet and the only people capable of making what Christ called a "kingdom of heaven" because of their generosity and empathy.

IMO probably all the people in the Adamic seedline are probably red haired. Jacob was probably red haired too but maybe not as red as Esau was. Or he probably wasn't as hairy so it wasn't as noticeable.
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Esau did not resemble to his parents (at least not to his "official" father), he was hairy, readheaded and much stronger. It happens that the giants were also hairy and redheaded, even those found in America.
Esau was a kind of Hercules, he killed the most powerfull ruler from that time, the man that erected the tower of Babel, Nimrod! So Esau fas de-facto the most powerfull man on earth.
Jacob treated Esau as his lord!

Genesis 32
Jacob Prepares to Meet Esau
3 Jacob sent messengers ahead of him to his brother Esau in the land of Seir, the country of Edom. 4 He instructed them: “This is what you are to say to my lord Esau: ‘Your servant Jacob says, I have been staying with Laban and have remained there till now. 5 I have cattle and donkeys, sheep and goats, male and female servants. Now I am sending this message to my lord, that I may find favor in your eyes.’”

This is not the way you talk to the brother that has given to you his inheritance right!
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ISRAEL literally means : A spiritual Person that Sees God ! Thus, anybody can be an Israeli !!!!! It is not limited to jews or any other special group.
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This makes no sense at all, why would you say Esau is nephilim race, he has the same parents and geneaoloy as Jacob. So to say he is nephilim is to also say Jacob is nephilim as well, which is impossible because Jesus had to come from Jacob.

And no, there's no way you can call redheads a wicked and evil race, if anything they are the nicest people on the planet and the only people capable of making what Christ called a "kingdom of heaven" because of their generosity and empathy.

IMO probably all the people in the Adamic seedline are probably red haired. Jacob was probably red haired too but maybe not as red as Esau was. Or he probably wasn't as hairy so it wasn't as noticeable.
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You need to open your spiritual eye to understand the things of the spiritual nature.

The Lord of the bible Hates Esau. He said very clearly that since day one I have hated Esau. If Esau is Issac's son, why does the Lord hate him?

Its because Esau is NOT the son of Issac but the seed of Satan just like Cain was the seed of Satan.

Dig deeper...google the seed of Satan doctrine and youtube the seed of Cain doctrine and you will understand who Esau was. He was from the bloodline of Cain who not Adam's son but of Satan and Eve's son.

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I am fully aware of the Serpent Seed doctrine, and I am a believer of it. However, you lose me when you claim every single bad guy in the bible is of the seedline of the Serpent and Cain. Nowhere in the bible does it say Esau was of the seedline of the serpent, or a hybrid nephilim mix or anything like that.

Jahweh simply does not like people who do not respect their birthright, their heritage, their people. And that is the kind of person Esau is.
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The Lord hated Esau even before his birth. He already told his mother that there are 2 nations inside her and the older will serve the younger.

So the Lord already knew who Esau was. Hence he was prevented from getting his father's blessing.

Bad fruit cant come from a good tree. Issac was not the father of Esau. If you believe in the serpent doctrine the you should believe that his children are still alive and thriving. Esau was one of his child, born a twin with Jacob but not of Issac's seed.
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I see what you're saying, and it's interesting conjecture to believe that Esau is serpent seed, and I suppose even with Cain it never really says outright that he is the son of the serpent, but I just kind of alludes to it, so I suppose it's not a big leap to believe the bible is alluding to Esau being serpent seed as well.

You know it is already unbelievable for Eve to have two sons from two different fathers in her womb at the same time, now I have to believe that Rebekah had two sons from different fathers as well? lol

I suppose it wasn't a natural insemination though, it was probably more like what the grays are doing today by taking people onboard their ships and inseminating women with serpent seed, that would make it more possible I guess.
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Genesis 25

3And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

24And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

25And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

26And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

27And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

This story is in fact about two races, the hairy redhead Esau belonged to the Rephaim/Nephilim race. Benjamin and his tribe inherited his strenght and wickedness.
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This makes no sense at all, why would you say Esau is nephilim race, he has the same parents and geneaoloy as Jacob. So to say he is nephilim is to also say Jacob is nephilim as well, which is impossible because Jesus had to come from Jacob.

And no, there's no way you can call redheads a wicked and evil race, if anything they are the nicest people on the planet and the only people capable of making what Christ called a "kingdom of heaven" because of their generosity and empathy.

IMO probably all the people in the Adamic seedline are probably red haired. Jacob was probably red haired too but maybe not as red as Esau was. Or he probably wasn't as hairy so it wasn't as noticeable.
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Esau did not resemble to his parents (at least not to his "official" father), he was hairy, readheaded and much stronger. It happens that the giants were also hairy and redheaded, even those found in America.
Esau was a kind of Hercules, he killed the most powerfull ruler from that time, the man that erected the tower of Babel, Nimrod! So Esau fas de-facto the most powerfull man on earth.
Jacob treated Esau as his lord!

Genesis 32
Jacob Prepares to Meet Esau
3 Jacob sent messengers ahead of him to his brother Esau in the land of Seir, the country of Edom. 4 He instructed them: “This is what you are to say to my lord Esau: ‘Your servant Jacob says, I have been staying with Laban and have remained there till now. 5 I have cattle and donkeys, sheep and goats, male and female servants. Now I am sending this message to my lord, that I may find favor in your eyes.’”

This is not the way you talk to the brother that has given to you his inheritance right!
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I don't think we have any evidence that says the giants were red-headed. As far as I know, all we have is that they had had six-fingers/six toes, and double sets of teeth.

His parents may have been red headed, IMO probably all the pure seedline of adam are red-haired, negative blood type. Really red-haired people are IMO the nicest, most empathetic people on this planet, I would love to live in a neighborhood with all red haired people. And Jesus said you can look at their fruits to see if they are wheat or tares.
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You need to open your spiritual eye to understand the things of the spiritual nature.

The Lord of the bible Hates Esau. He said very clearly that since day one I have hated Esau. If Esau is Issac's son, why does the Lord hate him?

Its because Esau is NOT the son of Issac but the seed of Satan just like Cain was the seed of Satan.

Dig deeper...google the seed of Satan doctrine and youtube the seed of Cain doctrine and you will understand who Esau was. He was from the bloodline of Cain who not Adam's son but of Satan and Eve's son.

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I am fully aware of the Serpent Seed doctrine, and I am a believer of it. However, you lose me when you claim every single bad guy in the bible is of the seedline of the Serpent and Cain. Nowhere in the bible does it say Esau was of the seedline of the serpent, or a hybrid nephilim mix or anything like that.

Jahweh simply does not like people who do not respect their birthright, their heritage, their people. And that is the kind of person Esau is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53756912


The Lord hated Esau even before his birth. He already told his mother that there are 2 nations inside her and the older will serve the younger.

So the Lord already knew who Esau was. Hence he was prevented from getting his father's blessing.

Bad fruit cant come from a good tree. Issac was not the father of Esau. If you believe in the serpent doctrine the you should believe that his children are still alive and thriving. Esau was one of his child, born a twin with Jacob but not of Issac's seed.
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I see what you're saying, and it's interesting conjecture to believe that Esau is serpent seed, and I suppose even with Cain it never really says outright that he is the son of the serpent, but I just kind of alludes to it, so I suppose it's not a big leap to believe the bible is alluding to Esau being serpent seed as well.

You know it is already unbelievable for Eve to have two sons from two different fathers in her womb at the same time, now I have to believe that Rebekah had two sons from different fathers as well? lol

I suppose it wasn't a natural insemination though, it was probably more like what the grays are doing today by taking people onboard their ships and inseminating women with serpent seed, that would make it more possible I guess.
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They were fraternal or dizygotic twins and it's possibe for such twins to have different fathers even without artificial insemination.
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This makes no sense at all, why would you say Esau is nephilim race, he has the same parents and geneaoloy as Jacob. So to say he is nephilim is to also say Jacob is nephilim as well, which is impossible because Jesus had to come from Jacob.

And no, there's no way you can call redheads a wicked and evil race, if anything they are the nicest people on the planet and the only people capable of making what Christ called a "kingdom of heaven" because of their generosity and empathy.

IMO probably all the people in the Adamic seedline are probably red haired. Jacob was probably red haired too but maybe not as red as Esau was. Or he probably wasn't as hairy so it wasn't as noticeable.
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You need to open your spiritual eye to understand the things of the spiritual nature.

The Lord of the bible Hates Esau. He said very clearly that since day one I have hated Esau. If Esau is Issac's son, why does the Lord hate him?

Its because Esau is NOT the son of Issac but the seed of Satan just like Cain was the seed of Satan.

Dig deeper...google the seed of Satan doctrine and youtube the seed of Cain doctrine and you will understand who Esau was. He was from the bloodline of Cain who not Adam's son but of Satan and Eve's son.

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Esau was from a good line, but he did not care about his people because he married a woman from the serpent seedline of Cain, this is why god hated him. God hates race-mixers. This is what the sin of "fornication" is in the Bible, in most cases that is. It's not having sex before marriage, it's having sex with another race, corrupting your Adamic seedline.
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Those who are born of good seed are not attracted to the bad seed.

Esau was attracted to the serpent seed because he himself was one of them.
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Ah darn I guess I'm serpent seed then, cause I ended up marrying a woman part Armenian, lol. Maybe that's why I never have any visions from God about the west coast being put under water, or any amazing spiritual stories or anything.
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I am fully aware of the Serpent Seed doctrine, and I am a believer of it. However, you lose me when you claim every single bad guy in the bible is of the seedline of the Serpent and Cain. Nowhere in the bible does it say Esau was of the seedline of the serpent, or a hybrid nephilim mix or anything like that.

Jahweh simply does not like people who do not respect their birthright, their heritage, their people. And that is the kind of person Esau is.
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The Lord hated Esau even before his birth. He already told his mother that there are 2 nations inside her and the older will serve the younger.

So the Lord already knew who Esau was. Hence he was prevented from getting his father's blessing.

Bad fruit cant come from a good tree. Issac was not the father of Esau. If you believe in the serpent doctrine the you should believe that his children are still alive and thriving. Esau was one of his child, born a twin with Jacob but not of Issac's seed.
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I see what you're saying, and it's interesting conjecture to believe that Esau is serpent seed, and I suppose even with Cain it never really says outright that he is the son of the serpent, but I just kind of alludes to it, so I suppose it's not a big leap to believe the bible is alluding to Esau being serpent seed as well.

You know it is already unbelievable for Eve to have two sons from two different fathers in her womb at the same time, now I have to believe that Rebekah had two sons from different fathers as well? lol

I suppose it wasn't a natural insemination though, it was probably more like what the grays are doing today by taking people onboard their ships and inseminating women with serpent seed, that would make it more possible I guess.
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They were fraternal or dizygotic twins and it's possibe for such twins to have different fathers even without artificial insemination.
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Okay, I can buy this happening once in the garden of Eden, but now you're telling me the same thing happened with Jacob and Esau in Rebekah's womb? There must be something else at play here,

I"M NOT SAYING ITS ALIENS BUT...... IT"S ALIENS!
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Re: Israel, the true story about this name as told in Genesis 32
Genesis 25

3And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.

24And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.

25And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau.

26And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.

27And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.

This story is in fact about two races, the hairy redhead Esau belonged to the Rephaim/Nephilim race. Benjamin and his tribe inherited his strenght and wickedness.
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This makes no sense at all, why would you say Esau is nephilim race, he has the same parents and geneaoloy as Jacob. So to say he is nephilim is to also say Jacob is nephilim as well, which is impossible because Jesus had to come from Jacob.

And no, there's no way you can call redheads a wicked and evil race, if anything they are the nicest people on the planet and the only people capable of making what Christ called a "kingdom of heaven" because of their generosity and empathy.

IMO probably all the people in the Adamic seedline are probably red haired. Jacob was probably red haired too but maybe not as red as Esau was. Or he probably wasn't as hairy so it wasn't as noticeable.
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Esau did not resemble to his parents (at least not to his "official" father), he was hairy, readheaded and much stronger. It happens that the giants were also hairy and redheaded, even those found in America.
Esau was a kind of Hercules, he killed the most powerfull ruler from that time, the man that erected the tower of Babel, Nimrod! So Esau fas de-facto the most powerfull man on earth.
Jacob treated Esau as his lord!

Genesis 32
Jacob Prepares to Meet Esau
3 Jacob sent messengers ahead of him to his brother Esau in the land of Seir, the country of Edom. 4 He instructed them: “This is what you are to say to my lord Esau: ‘Your servant Jacob says, I have been staying with Laban and have remained there till now. 5 I have cattle and donkeys, sheep and goats, male and female servants. Now I am sending this message to my lord, that I may find favor in your eyes.’”

This is not the way you talk to the brother that has given to you his inheritance right!
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I don't think we have any evidence that says the giants were red-headed. As far as I know, all we have is that they had had six-fingers/six toes, and double sets of teeth.

His parents may have been red headed, IMO probably all the pure seedline of adam are red-haired, negative blood type. Really red-haired people are IMO the nicest, most empathetic people on this planet, I would love to live in a neighborhood with all red haired people. And Jesus said you can look at their fruits to see if they are wheat or tares.
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Yes, we have quite a few evidences, here's one of them:
The Legend of the Red-Haired Giants from Lovelock Cave
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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This makes no sense at all, why would you say Esau is nephilim race, he has the same parents and geneaoloy as Jacob. So to say he is nephilim is to also say Jacob is nephilim as well, which is impossible because Jesus had to come from Jacob.

And no, there's no way you can call redheads a wicked and evil race, if anything they are the nicest people on the planet and the only people capable of making what Christ called a "kingdom of heaven" because of their generosity and empathy.

IMO probably all the people in the Adamic seedline are probably red haired. Jacob was probably red haired too but maybe not as red as Esau was. Or he probably wasn't as hairy so it wasn't as noticeable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53756912


Esau did not resemble to his parents (at least not to his "official" father), he was hairy, readheaded and much stronger. It happens that the giants were also hairy and redheaded, even those found in America.
Esau was a kind of Hercules, he killed the most powerfull ruler from that time, the man that erected the tower of Babel, Nimrod! So Esau fas de-facto the most powerfull man on earth.
Jacob treated Esau as his lord!

Genesis 32
Jacob Prepares to Meet Esau
3 Jacob sent messengers ahead of him to his brother Esau in the land of Seir, the country of Edom. 4 He instructed them: “This is what you are to say to my lord Esau: ‘Your servant Jacob says, I have been staying with Laban and have remained there till now. 5 I have cattle and donkeys, sheep and goats, male and female servants. Now I am sending this message to my lord, that I may find favor in your eyes.’”

This is not the way you talk to the brother that has given to you his inheritance right!
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I don't think we have any evidence that says the giants were red-headed. As far as I know, all we have is that they had had six-fingers/six toes, and double sets of teeth.

His parents may have been red headed, IMO probably all the pure seedline of adam are red-haired, negative blood type. Really red-haired people are IMO the nicest, most empathetic people on this planet, I would love to live in a neighborhood with all red haired people. And Jesus said you can look at their fruits to see if they are wheat or tares.
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Yes, we have quite a few evidences, here's one of them:
The Legend of the Red-Haired Giants from Lovelock Cave
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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A well-documented sighting by Magellan occurred in 1520 near the harbor of San Julian, Mexico. There, Magellan and his crew came upon a red-haired giant that stood nearly ten feet tall and whom Magellan described as having a “voice like a bull.” Later, Magellan learned from normal-sized natives that the giant belonged to a neighboring tribe. Remarkably, Magellan’s logs show that he and his crew captured two of these living giants and brought them aboard his ship intending to bring them back to Europe. Unfortunately the giants grew ill and they both died during the return voyage. Magellan had their remains buried at sea.
Fifty-eight years later giants still roamed San Julian. None other than Sir Francis Drake recorded encountering several red-haired men who stood over nine feet tall. In the years that followed many more explorers and seafarers also reported seeing giants roaming that area.
[link to outofatlantis.blogspot.ro]
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12 feet tall red haired giant killed in Afghanistan
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Well even if the serpent seed has red hair, it doesn't mean that the Adamic seed doesn't have red hair. You can't deny that red haired people are pretty much the nicest people on this planet, how can you say they are the serpent seed?
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Well even if the serpent seed has red hair, it doesn't mean that the Adamic seed doesn't have red hair. You can't deny that red haired people are pretty much the nicest people on this planet, how can you say they are the serpent seed?
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Red Hair and Outlawry
Philip J. Rasch

In this JOURNAL for May-June, 1947, Dr. Hans von Hentig presented a
most interesting article entitled "Redhead and Outlaw-A Study in
Criminal Anthropology”
Dr. von Hentig briefly considered the fact that a number of more or
less prominent "bad men" were red headed and arrived at three general
conclusions:
1. "The number of red-headed men among the noted outlaws surpassed
their rate in the normal population”
2. A partial explanation is that their lives largely depended on the
rapidity with which a Colt could be used and "it seems that
redheadedness is often combined with accelerated motor innervation."
3. The temperament of redheads is that of Jesse James. " ‘He is
revengeful in nature’ we are told, ‘always sanguine, impetuous, almost
heedless’. "
It appears to the writer that there is at least a "reasonable
assumption of doubt" as to the validity of all three of these
conclusions. Dr. von Hentig has collected an interesting series of
red-headed outlaws and his footnotes show a wide acquaintance with the
literature of the "Wild West." However, the question arises as to
whether this series may be a selected one.
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