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Is anyone noticing that the daily temperature weather highs being reported are not the truth?

 
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I noticed a couple weeks ago my news reported the high of the day would be around 43. That day it only got up to 35.
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It was 16 here in seattle earlier this morning.
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they think the sheeple will freak when they realize we're entering another ice age.
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About 20-years-ago they shut down 2/3rds of the temperature monitoring stations in the US. The ones they shut down were all rural and upper elevations. The ones they kept were all in cities, and corrupted by the urban heat island effect.

There are official temperature monitoring stations with air conditioning exhausts blowing on them. There are many others on hot blacktop, on airport runways next to jet engines, and my favorite - some with bbq grills propped up next to them. Wanna bet the temperature reading for those areas were off on Superbowl Sunday?

Our pseudoscientists took the totally crap reading from these stations, and then adjusted them upwards to create the lie that is global climate change. If we rely on raw data, including the crap data from the urban heat islands, then there is no temperature increase for the past 100 years!

We are entering an ice age. There is only so much fooling with the data they can do before everyone realizes it.
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No, it is the truth it is off. It used to match the local banks and now it doesn't. We joke we have to go look at the bank to see the truth. The bank runs like your own thermometer. This week they report one low and it is 15-20 degrees off. They said we'd get to 8 degrees today yet the banks and one not lying internet place gives it as -17.
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Thanks for the info -- This is what I mean!! To repeat an earlier post of mine in this thread (sorry!):

"To clarify what I am talking about, I am asking about ACTUAL (not forecasted) temperatures. As most of you probably know, there are many sites -- I personally prefer Weather Underground -- that will give the current temperature for a particular zip code. Weather Underground's current temp for my zip code usually matches within two degrees of what my computer or car temperature gauge shows. However, today I checked the Accuweather almanac (which shows, supposedly, the previous "actual" high's and low's for the previous month by zip code), and this is what was WAY off for at least the past six days, according to my observations.

"It is one thing to make an inaccurate forecast -- that happens "all" the time -- but it is another to lie about what is actually happening (now) or has actually happened!"


(And thanks again for ALL your responses!!)
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Direct sun, no wind -vs- shade & strong wind can vary temps by 10-15 degrees. Winds vary drastically based on geographic structures. It might very well be true that your temp is 15 degrees lower than 'average.' I doubt there is any nefarious doings tho.
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Wind has absolutely no effect on the temperature reading. None, zero, nada.

Temperature is always recorded in the shade. Period. This so there is not argument about shade, sun etc.
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Lets take something we don't fully understand and even our best computers cant tell us whats happening with in weeks time called the weather and fuck with it...Mother Nature is now barking back.
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South Central Colorado here, and YES, the radio/tv and internet given temperatures are always around 15 to 20 degrees higher than what both our outdoor thermometer and car thermometer reads.

This is new, too, as until a couple months ago there were never more than four or five degrees difference between the "official" temps and what we were seeing on our thermometers.

We've even commented on this amongst ourselves, "something's up--they're lying". Good to hear we aren't alone in realizing this. hf
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They always forcast bank holiday weekends will be nice here so people book holidays, arrange days out etc.

Always rains and is shit though.
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I watch the forecast regularly.

I've noticed the 5 day forecast prediction is always much warmer than what actually happens. And as those days become nearer they drop the forecasted temp down closer to reality.
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this is the biggie, keep the sheep thinking things are better than they really are right up to the latest 3 hr. forecast............... this is pretty much the standard mo for all agencies, business ect, ect, ect
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Right, that's it...for the last 4 weeks I have been wondering the same thing, but here in Australia.

I live on the south east coast of queensland and we started autumn in mid January, the trees have nearly finished dropping their leaves and we are supposedly still in summer.

WTF is going on..tv weather seems to be reporting all is normal and there is mostly talk of high temps further south, but a friend of mine who lives further down south reckons they must only be reporting road temps or something because she is not experiencing the temps they are saying on the telly.

Very strange
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Up to 4 degrees Celsius in the lies in Straya
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I recall them reporting Denver to be about -18 or so around 7PM last night.
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Right, that's it...for the last 4 weeks I have been wondering the same thing, but here in Australia.

I live on the south east coast of queensland and we started autumn in mid January, the trees have nearly finished dropping their leaves and we are supposedly still in summer.

WTF is going on..tv weather seems to be reporting all is normal and there is mostly talk of high temps further south, but a friend of mine who lives further down south reckons they must only be reporting road temps or something because she is not experiencing the temps they are saying on the telly.

Very strange
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Wow -- in Australia, too??!!

No question that much of the weather has been very abnormal lately (and, yes, I know that crazy weather has happened MANY times in the past!), but why the apparent LYING about just how "crazy" it really is?

Almost enough to make me believe that something "doom-ish" IS going on and the TPTB just don't want the masses to realize it!
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Alabama here. The "official" temps were off by 10 degrees for the last two weeks, when it was very cold. (single digits)
When the temps were back to a normal range, the accuracy came right back in line.

wtf
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Same here in Omaha, Nebraska! It is always way colder than they are reporting. I suggest everyone get one of those inside/outside thermometers and we actually start listing the temps around the country for ourselves and posting them. What say you?

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Good thread, here in central Mo. the temps on the radio are always 3 to 6 degrees different than the evening TV news and the snow totals are always off. We had 11" of snow yesterday but the highest report locally was 7". The company that I work for records weekly, and daily during any decent sized event. We have 21 testing sites that are very accurate yet the news is always way off.

edit: We run a private agricultural development division

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Alabama here. The "official" temps were off by 10 degrees for the last two weeks, when it was very cold. (single digits)
When the temps were back to a normal range, the accuracy came right back in line.

wtf
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Same here in Omaha, Nebraska! It is always way colder than they are reporting. I suggest everyone get one of those inside/outside thermometers and we actually start listing the temps around the country for ourselves and posting them. What say you?

smooch
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from what I've seen, it's not the current reported temps that are off, it's the forecast temps....off by 5-10 degrees lately.

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This is an interesting observation which seems to be confirmed by others; but the question is why?

It's been national news the whole month that the entire mid, east and southern united states is getting an arctic freeze. It's not like it's a secret.
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Everday damn day!

Forecasts are much warmer than actual.
Right now, it's 39 (but feels like 30), but if you look hourly, it says 47-49. It never reaches the highs stated.

Also, whats with the "feels like"?

Is this some scam to have even more false data?
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Right, that's it...for the last 4 weeks I have been wondering the same thing, but here in Australia.

I live on the south east coast of queensland and we started autumn in mid January, the trees have nearly finished dropping their leaves and we are supposedly still in summer.

WTF is going on..tv weather seems to be reporting all is normal and there is mostly talk of high temps further south, but a friend of mine who lives further down south reckons they must only be reporting road temps or something because she is not experiencing the temps they are saying on the telly.

Very strange
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Interesting to hear a bit what's happening in the Southern Hemisphere.

Thanks.
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Alabama here. The "official" temps were off by 10 degrees for the last two weeks, when it was very cold. (single digits)
When the temps were back to a normal range, the accuracy came right back in line.

wtf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2362947


Same here in Omaha, Nebraska! It is always way colder than they are reporting. I suggest everyone get one of those inside/outside thermometers and we actually start listing the temps around the country for ourselves and posting them. What say you?

smooch
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from what I've seen, it's not the current reported temps that are off, it's the forecast temps....off by 5-10 degrees lately.
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Current too. I confirm this.
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Yes. Accuweather posted a weird reading for Jan. 11 here in Kennesaw , GA. They said it was 80 degrees that day. Complete BS. It may have gotten to 60 that day which was one of the mildest days in the month but no way 80. That is hot and it has not been hot here since at least November. Then last week we had our first below zero reading since 1985.
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Where are your sensors?
Where are their sensors?
How were they calibrated?
I've seen a shaded dip in the landscape vary 20°F.
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This thread is now making me wonder about the 'accuracy' of the 'doom-off' forecast for the Northeast this coming weekend.

I guess time will tell.
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Before I relate what I have noticed, I will gladly admit first off that I might be wrong, BUT . . .

I live in the Denver area, and like a lot of the U.S., it has been below significantly below freezing for the past week here. (This morning at about 6 a.m., it was -10 degrees!) I have a temperature gadget on my computer, and I have "monitor" the temp fairly frequently. Anyway, for the past six days or so, I have NEVER seen it go above 10 degrees Fahrenheit, yet according to the Accuweather almanac for my zip code, the average high for the past six days has been about 25 degrees! (Accuweather's shown low's are significantly higher than what I have observed, too.)

Now, if it was "off" by less than 5 degrees, I would think that it just a matter of the temps being taken in different areas in the zip code area (meaning that, yes, I could understand differences in readings in gauges a couple of miles apart), but this is a significant difference. Does anyone else suspect that they are being lied to as far as how cold it has actually been in their areas?
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and summer highs are actually higher than reported
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Seems like a lot of places read the temperature at local airports.I dont live at the airport so its rarely the same as the thermometers I have in front and back of my house.At present its 12 degrees colder at my place than the weather websites are saying.Lows are always at least 5 to 15 degrees lower here than whats reported on the site.
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I recall them reporting Denver to be about -18 or so around 7PM last night.
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Maybe, but I think it was about -9 degrees then where I live (according to my computer). However, in rechecking Accuweather for Denver, they DID get it right for Denver YESTERDAY because they said the high was -1 and the low was -19, but before that, since about last Friday, it said that the average high was about 25 degrees each day, and I KNOW that wasn't true unless it happened in the middle of the night!

(The reaaon I am as sure as I am is because I usually walk my dog twice a day, but I won't do so if it is less than 20 degrees unless it is sunny; and I haven't taken her for a good walk since this past Sunday when it was sunny but still VERY cold.)
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Where are your sensors?
Where are their sensors?
How were they calibrated?
I've seen a shaded dip in the landscape vary 20°F.
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make an ice bath with distilled water for 32 (0C) and boil the distilled for 212 (100C)

and correct for baro pressure

~±0.1 with reasonable uncertainty
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Direct sun, no wind -vs- shade & strong wind can vary temps by 10-15 degrees. Winds vary drastically based on geographic structures. It might very well be true that your temp is 15 degrees lower than 'average.' I doubt there is any nefarious doings tho.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53229434


Wind has absolutely no effect on the temperature reading. None, zero, nada.

Temperature is always recorded in the shade. Period. This so there is not argument about shade, sun etc.
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Don't be so sure...

A wet thermometer in the wind will read lower in many situations.
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I have been seeing this for years now. I see temps sometimes 20-30 degrees below the fore casted temps for the day. The TV mets are a joke and just say nothing.

You combine these temps with many days of no sunshine. The weather is far from normal these days.





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