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Mars rover and other space crap! How in the hell?????

 
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Mars rover and other space crap! How in the hell?????
Do they communicate with these objects that are 100 million + miles away? Impossible.
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I don't care that voyager has a 14 foot antenna. 14 feet ain't shit in space.
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I highly doubt anyone can answer this seriously. Because its impossible to do!
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Re: Mars rover and other space crap! How in the hell?????
Radio signals are electromagnetic waves and trough vacuum (space) they move with the speed of light ( light itself is an electromagnetic wave also) and can move great distances.

[link to www.science.uwaterloo.ca]
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Re: Mars rover and other space crap! How in the hell?????
No way images can travel that far and not lose data somewhere along the way. Too much radiation to interrupt the signals. Try again!
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Re: Mars rover and other space crap! How in the hell?????
No way images can travel that far and not lose data somewhere along the way. Too much radiation to interrupt the signals. Try again!
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No way images can travel that far and not lose data somewhere along the way. Too much radiation to interrupt the signals. Try again!
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bump
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Bump for answers? Astro? Any other brain can answer this?
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Bump for answers? Astro? Any other brain can answer this?
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Already answered. Even amateurs can do it, with a sufficiently large dish. Your argument from personal incredulity is not proof nor is it logical. I get the feeling you're here to troll. Go somewhere else.
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Bump for answers? Astro? Any other brain can answer this?
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Already answered. Even amateurs can do it, with a sufficiently large dish. Your argument from personal incredulity is not proof nor is it logical. I get the feeling you're here to troll. Go somewhere else.
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No I'm not, I want to know how a signal can physically make it that far in space without disruption and radiation disturbance. It's ok if you don't know how it actually works Astro.
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No way images can travel that far and not lose data somewhere along the way. Too much radiation to interrupt the signals. Try again!
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No way images can travel that far and not lose data somewhere along the way. Too much radiation to interrupt the signals. Try again!
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bump
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They just resend the bits that the radiation fuzzez out.


Have you ever downloaded a Torrent before ?
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You give a link that amateurs can do it. It doesn't explain HOW it's done!
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No way images can travel that far and not lose data somewhere along the way. Too much radiation to interrupt the signals. Try again!
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Your computer disk drives (and disc drives) are often constantly misreading data, it is just "corrected" in sophisticated ways that you don't know about.

Here is a good example.

Reed Solomon Error Correction:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Edit: ...and there appear to be programming errors on that page... chuckle
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Bump for answers? Astro? Any other brain can answer this?
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Already answered. Even amateurs can do it, with a sufficiently large dish. Your argument from personal incredulity is not proof nor is it logical. I get the feeling you're here to troll. Go somewhere else.
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No I'm not, I want to know how a signal can physically make it that far in space without disruption and radiation disturbance. It's ok if you don't know how it actually works Astro.
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You're starting with the assumption that it doesn't work. It does. It isn't magically "disrupted" just because there's "radiation" in space. Earth's atmosphere has air glow, but that doesn't mean that distant stars and galaxies can't be seen through it. Like I said, with a sufficiently large dish you can listen to distant probes yourself.
[link to www.uhf-satcom.com]
[link to www.uhf-satcom.com]
If you want to study up on the subject, here's a good book on it:
[link to ia600507.us.archive.org (secure)]
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Still not telling me how a signal can travel a direct straight line in space over 100 million miles without getting off course. Space is fucking huge. The signal isn't
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Bump for answers? Astro? Any other brain can answer this?
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Already answered. Even amateurs can do it, with a sufficiently large dish. Your argument from personal incredulity is not proof nor is it logical. I get the feeling you're here to troll. Go somewhere else.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


No I'm not, I want to know how a signal can physically make it that far in space without disruption and radiation disturbance. It's ok if you don't know how it actually works Astro.
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You're starting with the assumption that it doesn't work. It does. It isn't magically "disrupted" just because there's "radiation" in space. Earth's atmosphere has air glow, but that doesn't mean that distant stars and galaxies can't be seen through it. Like I said, with a sufficiently large dish you can listen to distant probes yourself.
[link to www.uhf-satcom.com]
[link to www.uhf-satcom.com]
If you want to study up on the subject, here's a good book on it:
[link to ia600507.us.archive.org (secure)]
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Thanks but we are talking a 100 million miles. I'm not buying anything can travel that far with accuracy.
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WHY bother trying to explain anything to OP, like trying to explain nuclear physics to an orangutang
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Re: Mars rover and other space crap! How in the hell?????
Still not telling me how a signal can travel a direct straight line in space over 100 million miles without getting off course. Space is fucking huge. The signal isn't
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What really bakes people's noodles is when you try to talk about "signals" "traveling" beyond "time" and "space."
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WHY bother trying to explain anything to OP, like trying to explain nuclear physics to an orangutang
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So you don't know either.
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WHY bother trying to explain anything to OP, like trying to explain nuclear physics to an orangutang
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It can be explained to a goddamned first-grader... Want to see?
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Already answered. Even amateurs can do it, with a sufficiently large dish. Your argument from personal incredulity is not proof nor is it logical. I get the feeling you're here to troll. Go somewhere else.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


No I'm not, I want to know how a signal can physically make it that far in space without disruption and radiation disturbance. It's ok if you don't know how it actually works Astro.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20088401


You're starting with the assumption that it doesn't work. It does. It isn't magically "disrupted" just because there's "radiation" in space. Earth's atmosphere has air glow, but that doesn't mean that distant stars and galaxies can't be seen through it. Like I said, with a sufficiently large dish you can listen to distant probes yourself.
[link to www.uhf-satcom.com]
[link to www.uhf-satcom.com]
If you want to study up on the subject, here's a good book on it:
[link to ia600507.us.archive.org (secure)]
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Thanks but we are talking a 100 million miles. I'm not buying anything can travel that far with accuracy.
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As I thought, a typical troll. Well, the evidence shows it can, just fine. Until you explain why it is that even amateurs can do it, you've got nothing.
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Impossible?

You're not the brightest bulb in the box are you OP?

Q: How are the Voyager spacecraft able to transmit radio messages so far?

A: [link to science.howstuffworks.com]
"I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics, a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's." ("Mark Twain in Eruption")
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I recommend a brushing up on something first, before the stupidly easy shit...

It fits in perfectly with the conspiracy angle of the forum...

Thread: Corruption of Science: Destruction of the U.S. Constitution

Who Cares If Neutrons Repel and Stars Make Hydrogen?

Government by the people depends on public access to reliable information. The integrity of our government thus depends on the integrity of government science.

For the past sixty-eight years the scientific community has lied to Congress about the energy (E) stored as mass (m) in cores of atoms, planets, stars and galaxies. Why? Fear and a deep sense of guilt and remorse for having released that energy to vaporize Hiroshima and Nagasaki and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians on August 6 and 9, 1945 ..

...snip...
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Thread: A first-year Elementary school primer of "Nuclear Science" + First-year undergraduate primer in 1 post

As a follow-up (or preliminary) to the "corruption of science / destruction of U.S. Constitution" thread, I'd like to share this ridiculously simple video.

It is ridiculously simple, because it just is that simple.

three primary colors
three "particles"
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So here is the first-year elementary school primer (which could also be a children's book...):


[link to www.youtube.com]



...and here is the first-year undergraduate primer:

COMPOSITION OF THE SOLAR INTERIOR:
INFORMATION FROM ISOTOPE RATIOS


ABSTRACT

Measurements are reviewed showing that the interior
of the Sun, the inner planets, and ordinary meteorites
consist mostly of the same elements: Iron, oxygen,
nickel, silicon, magnesium, sulfur and calcium [1].
These results do not support the standard solar model.


[link to www.omatumr.com]

References:

1. Harkins W. D. (1917): The evolution of the
elements and the stability of complex atoms, J. Am.
Chem. Soc.
39, 856-879.

...


(...ask me about the meta-physical and archetypal "versions.") chuckle
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Impossible?

You're not the brightest bulb in the box are you OP?

Q: How are the Voyager spacecraft able to transmit radio messages so far?

A: [link to science.howstuffworks.com]
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I read that it only mentions giant antennas. Ok great big antennas . You mean they can send a signal that far with no disruption? Space is constantly changing shape and direction. The signal would get off track.
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Bump for answers? Astro? Any other brain can answer this?
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Already answered. Even amateurs can do it, with a sufficiently large dish. Your argument from personal incredulity is not proof nor is it logical. I get the feeling you're here to troll. Go somewhere else.
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Great to see you around again astro :)
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WW2 SEVERELY FUCKED UP "SCIENCE."

Now, that is being rectified. Pun intended...
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No I'm not, I want to know how a signal can physically make it that far in space without disruption and radiation disturbance. It's ok if you don't know how it actually works Astro.
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You're starting with the assumption that it doesn't work. It does. It isn't magically "disrupted" just because there's "radiation" in space. Earth's atmosphere has air glow, but that doesn't mean that distant stars and galaxies can't be seen through it. Like I said, with a sufficiently large dish you can listen to distant probes yourself.
[link to www.uhf-satcom.com]
[link to www.uhf-satcom.com]
If you want to study up on the subject, here's a good book on it:
[link to ia600507.us.archive.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Dr. Astro

Thanks but we are talking a 100 million miles. I'm not buying anything can travel that far with accuracy.
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As I thought, a typical troll. Well, the evidence shows it can, just fine. Until you explain why it is that even amateurs can do it, you've got nothing.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


So you don't know either. Pasting websites with babble. Any troll can do that
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Bilderberger-approved model of "reality" goes bye-bye...

:fuck-the-UN:

^^^
Someone should create something special for that tag...
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I used A cheap CB and a MOON raker antenna to see if it was true it was able to bounce signals from the moon and with only 5 freaking watts it was possible .....

with radio telescopes hundred meters wide ... nothing is impossible /

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