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Are you a Strawman???? R U?

 
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Disclaimer: Upon further review, I have now found people who have been sovereign for some time – some completely sovereign with complete detachment from their “STRAWMAN” and SS#, and some using this in between state of sovereign ability for protection and bond issues pertaining to their “STRAWMAN”. I hope to interview these folks soon. I would also highly recommend these two sites for further evidence that indeed, the United States is in bankruptcy, via The Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent, and H.J.R. 192, 73rd Congress m session June 5, 1933.


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burnit
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i agree
The ones that count,already know my personal signature.
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burnit
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i agree
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What you trying to say? What does your symbol mean?
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Is there a process to officially disconnect from the system or is it merely a matter of knowing the details?
I've read plenty about Freemen but there isn't much of it that sounds like it would cut any ice with a judge if it came down to that.
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burnit
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i agree
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What you trying to say? What does your symbol mean?
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WETHEYYOUITHEMUS

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burnit
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i agree
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What you trying to say? What does your symbol mean?
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my symbol of 'burn it' means i was too lazy mentally to decipher the contents of your paragraph..but i do like the police..
The ones that count,already know my personal signature.
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Too much reading, get to your point.

Birth certificates , a name you didnt choose , ... i dont know what you wanna say to me..

I have eluded many things due to my name , and the fact that i may or may not exist...just spill the beans.
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why can't we live forever?

that's what i care about more than a stinking piece of paper!
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Some disinformation BULLSHIT in the link, Op. there is no secret account and if there was, the government sure as hell will not allow you to access and use it.

Ask for PROOF, show me one of the supposed "sovereigns" he blogs about to show me their paid bills with their secret account worth millions.

They will NEVER provide proof because they have none, because its bullshit.

You don't have a strawman account worth millions or billions, that makes no logical sense since he goes on and on about how there is no money and no gold and nothing but fiat money but then POOF millions in accounts under your strawman name.

It's BULLSHIT.
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Some disinformation BULLSHIT in the link, Op. there is no secret account and if there was, the government sure as hell will not allow you to access and use it.

Ask for PROOF, show me one of the supposed "sovereigns" he blogs about to show me their paid bills with their secret account worth millions.

They will NEVER provide proof because they have none, because its bullshit.

You don't have a strawman account worth millions or billions, that makes no logical sense since he goes on and on about how there is no money and no gold and nothing but fiat money but then POOF millions in accounts under your strawman name.

It's BULLSHIT.
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NOT!!!
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Some disinformation BULLSHIT in the link, Op. there is no secret account and if there was, the government sure as hell will not allow you to access and use it.

Ask for PROOF, show me one of the supposed "sovereigns" he blogs about to show me their paid bills with their secret account worth millions.

They will NEVER provide proof because they have none, because its bullshit.

You don't have a strawman account worth millions or billions, that makes no logical sense since he goes on and on about how there is no money and no gold and nothing but fiat money but then POOF millions in accounts under your strawman name.

It's BULLSHIT.
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NOT!!!
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Prove it then, he was doing great till he started with that "you can access your account and pay all your debts lawfully".

You cannot pay anything with fiat money, so how the hell can an account full of fiat currency "lawfully pay" anything!?

It CAN'T. He is full of shit and so are you, it is a logical and lawful impossibility to do what he claims OTHERS (notice he has not done it) have done.

And neither have you so put up or shut up.
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Well, I'm not full of shit, but did have a few misunderstandings, yes. For the truth is far more bizarre! Trust law is an entirely other thing, and is a trade secret. It involves creating a trust to manage the corporate name, thus turning the name into a non-profit entity, and then filing IRS forms to get all moneys paid back as a tax refund. In this way, the fiat is used to refund what you paid. But only the corporate world knows about this, and its a guarded remedy.

The "trust" I referred to is actually a bond (birth certificate), and is used as surety through the name. Strawman or "stramineus homo" is in Black's law dictionary, and is defined as the name used as bond and surety. This is basically your driver's license - the surname. Sur-name is sur-ety

No disinfo there, just a learning curve that had not yet been met by myself. I no longer parrot what I hear. The sign of a good researcher is one who can admit he was wrong about past work. So here I am. Two years later I'm much more informed. And in all honestly, I found the UCC (COMMERCIAL) route to be just another trap.

I'm writing a book now with all I've learned.

Good on you for not being afraid to dissent, and I don't take offense. But the messenger in this case, myself, should not be attacked for making rookie mistakes.

I should change the post to reflect this.

-Clint Richardson-
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The Corporation Nation Radio
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5-7 Pacific



Some disinformation BULLSHIT in the link, Op. there is no secret account and if there was, the government sure as hell will not allow you to access and use it.

Ask for PROOF, show me one of the supposed "sovereigns" he blogs about to show me their paid bills with their secret account worth millions.

They will NEVER provide proof because they have none, because its bullshit.

You don't have a strawman account worth millions or billions, that makes no logical sense since he goes on and on about how there is no money and no gold and nothing but fiat money but then POOF millions in accounts under your strawman name.

It's BULLSHIT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47330867


NOT!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53588376


Prove it then, he was doing great till he started with that "you can access your account and pay all your debts lawfully".

You cannot pay anything with fiat money, so how the hell can an account full of fiat currency "lawfully pay" anything!?

It CAN'T. He is full of shit and so are you, it is a logical and lawful impossibility to do what he claims OTHERS (notice he has not done it) have done.

And neither have you so put up or shut up.
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2 years and you got it all figured out? I did nothing but research and act for 2 years full time (no book writing and radio shows). You are still making mistakes, they just have no caught up to you yet.

1. You cannot control the legal name. Nor can you directly access and utilize the currency circuits that would allow the currency it might have to come back to you. It does not work that way.

2. You cannot "pay" for anything with ANY currency derived from the Federal reserve system. End of discussion, end of your theory. Everything and anything YOU obtain using their currency is their property and you can not "own" it.

3. Are you charging for this book you are writing? How about your price for telling people your "secret corporation knowledge" only Fortune 500 companies have? How and why are you charging anything for this info when you have access to your multi million dollar strawman account?

Because you are full of shit, that's why. I am calling you a liar and I will keep doing it because you are WRONG. Screw your stupid book, email me ONE thing you have paid for with your secret account, just ONE THING.

Show me one piece of property you hold the title too, one car, one anything. You can't because you do not have it.

"Federal reserve notes represent a FIRST LEIN ON ALL GOODS AND SERVICES".

Federal reserve credit in any form is DEBT. Debt cannot buy or pay for anything, a Trust in debt is OWNED by the Creditor, and you, Sir are not a creditor, you are a debtor because you cling to the idea that "discharge" is "lawful payment" and it most certainly is not.



Well, I'm not full of shit, but did have a few misunderstandings, yes. For the truth is far more bizarre! Trust law is an entirely other thing, and is a trade secret. It involves creating a trust to manage the corporate name, thus turning the name into a non-profit entity, and then filing IRS forms to get all moneys paid back as a tax refund. In this way, the fiat is used to refund what you paid. But only the corporate world knows about this, and its a guarded remedy.

The "trust" I referred to is actually a bond (birth certificate), and is used as surety through the name. Strawman or "stramineus homo" is in Black's law dictionary, and is defined as the name used as bond and surety. This is basically your driver's license - the surname. Sur-name is sur-ety

No disinfo there, just a learning curve that had not yet been met by myself. I no longer parrot what I hear. The sign of a good researcher is one who can admit he was wrong about past work. So here I am. Two years later I'm much more informed. And in all honestly, I found the UCC (COMMERCIAL) route to be just another trap.

I'm writing a book now with all I've learned.

Good on you for not being afraid to dissent, and I don't take offense. But the messenger in this case, myself, should not be attacked for making rookie mistakes.

I should change the post to reflect this.

-Clint Richardson-
RepublicBroadcasting.org
The Corporation Nation Radio
Mon-Fri
5-7 Pacific



Some disinformation BULLSHIT in the link, Op. there is no secret account and if there was, the government sure as hell will not allow you to access and use it.

Ask for PROOF, show me one of the supposed "sovereigns" he blogs about to show me their paid bills with their secret account worth millions.

They will NEVER provide proof because they have none, because its bullshit.

You don't have a strawman account worth millions or billions, that makes no logical sense since he goes on and on about how there is no money and no gold and nothing but fiat money but then POOF millions in accounts under your strawman name.

It's BULLSHIT.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47330867


NOT!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53588376


Prove it then, he was doing great till he started with that "you can access your account and pay all your debts lawfully".

You cannot pay anything with fiat money, so how the hell can an account full of fiat currency "lawfully pay" anything!?

It CAN'T. He is full of shit and so are you, it is a logical and lawful impossibility to do what he claims OTHERS (notice he has not done it) have done.

And neither have you so put up or shut up.
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I may not have a radio show, because I and too busy walking the walk and not talking.

I have a full time job, my own RECOGNIZED court of record, and my bank records and court records are proof that I AM a living man and give a to the dollar accounting of how much money the US treasury owes ME.

I am have standing proof of those facts and unlike YOU I am willing to provide those public records and exactly the results I have (many others have done the same). I am also willing to share EXACTLY how I have done it, no charge, no fee, no book to buy. No droning on radio show that is nothing but a commercial for a seminar or book.

Put up or shut up. Give me an email address and I will send you the information and Federal court case record.
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And for the record, you cannot control what is not yours to control. YOU do not have a "strawman" the ALL CAPS names and any trust attached to it or formed because of it (the Certificate of live Birth receipt evidence) entitles you to NOTHING. Because it, nor the ALL CAPS name is yours.

It was not "created" by your parents, nor was it given to you.

You claim to know trust law. Tell me EXACTLY where in TRUST law can any member of the TRUST re-assign their own role in the trust without agreement from all other parties in the TRUST?

That is a a patently (look that up in your dictionary) false premise with zero lawful backing. You cannot reassign your own office in a trust without permission of the other office holders!! Prove me wrong, then let me see you do it in front of a Federal JUDGE on the record.

Talk is cheap and your entire premise of con-torting trust accounts that are not yours to control is BULLSHIT.
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867 is right....

No-one 'owns' the 'Legal Person', no 'account' is tied to it, it's a trap. Does any single person own Microsoft? Of course not, it's a fucking corporation.

What you DO own, is the EQUITY in the Legal Person, and can make it known that you are the soul Beneficiary of the NAME. You can prove this by obtaining a copy of your Long Form Live Birth Record...the document used to CREATE the B.C. (Person).

File a Notice of claim to the government saying it is your understanding that the NAME is for your Equitable use only, making you the soul shareholder of it. If it goes unrebutted, it stands as FACT.

Then, appoint yourself the Executor of the NAME, that leaves only one other role for the government in regards to the 'Person' ---TRUSTEE

I wouldn't play with the UCC with a ten foot pole. I know some people do it....but they are playing with fire.
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becareful the lawyers(liars) are being trained nowadays to consider the freemen on the land as potential terrorists.

have a nice straw-person day!
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becareful the lawyers(liars) are being trained nowadays to consider the freemen on the land as potential terrorists.

have a nice straw-person day!
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Do you know that BAR lawyers are technically foreign to the U.S. and must act pro-bono to enforce a bankruptcy?

If the bar lawyer is being paid by the Corporate 'Court' trading on Dun & Bradstreet, demand to see a W9 Tax form, you can have them arrested for tax evasion.
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And for the record, you cannot control what is not yours to control. YOU do not have a "strawman" the ALL CAPS names and any trust attached to it or formed because of it (the Certificate of live Birth receipt evidence) entitles you to NOTHING. Because it, nor the ALL CAPS name is yours.

It was not "created" by your parents, nor was it given to you.

You claim to know trust law. Tell me EXACTLY where in TRUST law can any member of the TRUST re-assign their own role in the trust without agreement from all other parties in the TRUST?

That is a a patently (look that up in your dictionary) false premise with zero lawful backing. You cannot reassign your own office in a trust without permission of the other office holders!! Prove me wrong, then let me see you do it in front of a Federal JUDGE on the record.

Talk is cheap and your entire premise of con-torting trust accounts that are not yours to control is BULLSHIT.
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Actually they, the Grantor of the Birth Record, created something for MY USE, then gave it to the government to hold for me.

Like it or not, this creates A RESULTING TRUST and proves I am one of the indigenous people born on the land, a non-fiction.

Whoever works for the government is then my trustee if I use this document as identification via IMPUTED TRUST agreement.

That document proves you are the 'Man'.

A Beneficiary can certainly fire a trustee or appoint executors.

Don't the shareholders (beneficiaries) of Microsoft appoint the directors?

It's all corporate law.
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And for the record, you cannot control what is not yours to control. YOU do not have a "strawman" the ALL CAPS names and any trust attached to it or formed because of it (the Certificate of live Birth receipt evidence) entitles you to NOTHING. Because it, nor the ALL CAPS name is yours.

It was not "created" by your parents, nor was it given to you.

You claim to know trust law. Tell me EXACTLY where in TRUST law can any member of the TRUST re-assign their own role in the trust without agreement from all other parties in the TRUST?

That is a a patently (look that up in your dictionary) false premise with zero lawful backing. You cannot reassign your own office in a trust without permission of the other office holders!! Prove me wrong, then let me see you do it in front of a Federal JUDGE on the record.

Talk is cheap and your entire premise of con-torting trust accounts that are not yours to control is BULLSHIT.
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Actually they, the Grantor of the Birth Record, created something for MY USE, then gave it to the government to hold for me.

Like it or not, this creates A RESULTING TRUST and proves I am one of the indigenous people born on the land, a non-fiction.

Whoever works for the government is then my trustee if I use this document as identification via IMPUTED TRUST agreement.

That document proves you are the 'Man'.

A Beneficiary can certainly fire a trustee or appoint executors.

Don't the shareholders (beneficiaries) of Microsoft appoint the directors?

It's all corporate law.
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Utter and complete nonsense. Again, show me the law. You posting crap with legal words means nothing.

Your "parents" did nothing of the sort, hey knew nothing about the resulting trust created with the paperwork they filled out at the hospital or the midwife before your nativity.

If they did, the trust would not have been abandoned at sea for 7 years after your nativity, they would have claimed it within 3 days of its registration date.

See, you are DEAD because you think you know but you don't.

I did not even bother to read the rest of your reply because you did not even get the first part right, nullifying anything else.

You cannot reassign your self to a new office in the trust, even IF your parents knowingly set it up for you, that would be THEIR responsibility, since they did NOT do it, nor did they claim the TRUST documents, hey silently gave quiet title to the State for your body.

You need to stop talking and thinking you know because you don't. You cannot reassign yourself offices in a trust that was lost at sea 7 years after your nativity. Show me the LAW (not your BS) that allows that to happen.
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And you were not "born on the land, stupid, you know nothing of your "birth" because you were a new born, knowing nothing.

A state hospital is not "the land" it is a licensed (operating on the sea of commerce) corporation, and the first thing your feet touched was not the land but a floating Bank Bond (your foot print is on the back) showing you are a LIAR in your claims to being anything in the trust but CHATTLE PROPERTY.

You do not even know the law yet you claim to teach others redemption.

You are going to get your ass handed to you by your owners, dude.
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Ohhhh the old 'Lost at Sea' freeman B.S.!

Show me the LAW that proves that B.S. Cestui Que Act is what is going on?

You can't!

A Cestui Que is the BENEFICIARY, if you knew shit about trust law (which you don't) you'd know that a RESULTING TRUST doesn't have to be EXPRESS.

By simply going through the MOTIONS the Resulting Trust was created. When the beneficiary reaches the AGE OF MAJORITY he can certainly take full control of the trust.

Read a fucking book on trust law, newb.
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Just thinking of a strawman halloween costume. Replete with hay sticking out and psuedo-legal papers with "VOID" marked across them in red ink! It would be a hey day.
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And of COURSE you can show me a fully disclosed contract granting the Cestui Que Beneficial use to the government, entered in with good faith & full disclosure?

Of course not, so rebut the fucking contract, entered into via MISTAKE.

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Ohhhh the old 'Lost at Sea' freeman B.S.!

Show me the LAW that proves that B.S. Cestui Que Act is what is going on?

You can't!

A Cestui Que is the BENEFICIARY, if you knew shit about trust law (which you don't) you'd know that a RESULTING TRUST doesn't have to be EXPRESS.

By simply going through the MOTIONS the Resulting Trust was created. When the beneficiary reaches the AGE OF MAJORITY he can certainly take full control of the trust.

Read a fucking book on trust law, newb.
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Lost at sea had truth in it just like your bullshit blog has truth in it. It does not make the bullshit any less bullshit.

Show me your fucking results, I want to see court records and proof of your claims or I am done bumping your bullshit thread. I will provide anyone who asks MY PROOF of what I have done. Give me an email and you got it.

And since you cannot answer a simple fucking question: how much is your book of secrets going to COST?

And why do you need me to pay for it when you have access to your secret account?
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I'm not the one writing books and selling UCC, you got the wrong guy pops. I don't touch UCC.

I'm just disputing your knowledge of the Cestui Que trust.
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Wow... I believe I just stated that I had it wrong, and I don't disagree with anything you state here, except your arrogant ad homenim on my character.

Apparently you fell out of the womb with this knowledge and had no learning process and never had to admit to your own mistakes as I have done here. I listened instead of researched on this particular subject. i did not do my proper grammar or logic.

Your assumptions of my lack of your own knowledge are incorrect, thus the reason for my stating I WAS WRONG 2 years ago. I do now realize ownership of person is illusion, but only by walking the walk and many years of research.

I hope I never become like you, Mr. Guru.
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Let me chime in here.

Some redemptionists are just chanting incantations and throwing stuff at the wall hoping something will stick.

So, here is the fundamental fact.

Most of the redemption, SPC sort of stuff is close to the truth even if it doesn't work in court and here is why.

The most massive theft through transfer of wealth from the working classes to a few elites began under Franklin Roosevelt in the thirties.

The "Dollar" which had been a reference to silver coinage for about 350 years was changed to a definition of a quantity of gold in 1873 and it was presumed that the paper dollar was redeemable in gold. That is the famous "crime of 73" and the speech about "cross of gold" made by William Jennings Bryan in 1869.

In 1933 +/- Roosevelt rounded up the gold and initiated a system of credit money based upon the credit of the people and redemption in gold ceased.

However, a system of credit must - just as Dr Ellen Brown and Richard Cook have been writing and speaking - must be administered as a public utility for the good of all of the people.

What Roosevelt did was to institute the fifth plank of the communist manifesto; the credit of the people is the property of the government. Then in this little two step dance the public credit was assigned to the banks...

AT NO TIME IN THIS PROCESS WAS THERE EVER CREATED AN OFF-SET ACCOUNT THAT WOULD SERVE TO BALANCE THE BOOKS.

THIS IS A "TAKING" WITHOUT PROPER RECOMPENSE.


Thereafter, the largest theft in human history proceeded forward. At first, and for decades, the banks were tightly regulated with interest rates held down and speculation under various regulations controlled. However, beginning about 1985 these regulations and controls were relaxed and removed.

I hope, I really really hope that readers get this big picture - it helps to comprehend the small details. You are dealing with some clever thieves and their helpers in government.

Total enslavement and a return to serfdom is the projected final outcome.

For more writing like this please visit this thread:
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This thread:

Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments

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