Sandy Hook: Who is the old man dressed in dark seen walking in at 9:32? | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54122108 United States 02/09/2014 12:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in Quoting: Fred 53301007 CFS 1200704559 / Book 5 / 00005519.pdf it's the interview of a parent who dropped a letter at sandy hook school. signed in at 9:31 and sign out at 9.32. "XXX stated that there was an older man, approximately 60-65 years old , dressed in dark clothing, with his hands in his pockets. He was walking in and shuffling." 60-65 yo... it's a bit aged to be a parent? no? Yes - very weird. See also Thread: Witness: "60 yr old man with flat expression" entered Sandy Hook School minutes before shooting In one of the reports, a teacher describes an unidentified man standing with his hands in his pockets near the back of the school (inside), as she ran out to see what the noises were. |
Fred (OP) User ID: 53301007 Switzerland 02/09/2014 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in Quoting: Fred 53301007 CFS 1200704559 / Book 5 / 00005519.pdf it's the interview of a parent who dropped a letter at sandy hook school. signed in at 9:31 and sign out at 9.32. "XXX stated that there was an older man, approximately 60-65 years old , dressed in dark clothing, with his hands in his pockets. He was walking in and shuffling." 60-65 yo... it's a bit aged to be a parent? no? Yes - very weird. See also Thread: Witness: "60 yr old man with flat expression" entered Sandy Hook School minutes before shooting In one of the reports, a teacher describes an unidentified man standing with his hands in his pockets near the back of the school (inside), as she ran out to see what the noises were. thanks... i missed this thread... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54122108 United States 02/09/2014 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dang...having a hard time finding it. I believe she said or felt it was a father there to make gingerbread houses, but the part about him having his hands in his pockets jumped out at me. There is another report from a father who arrived 15 minutes early, and said his child's class was still doing morning reading so he waited outside there door for a while so as not to interrupt them. "Flat expression man" was said by the witness to arrive around 9:32; but would he be 60-65 years old? |
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Fred (OP) User ID: 53301007 Switzerland 02/09/2014 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So...why would this thread get the double-tap (that's what I'm calling the relatively new phenomenon of getting two, instant one-star ratings)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54122108 sorry to make it double... i missed the first one. it died fast and was polluted... so it's good idea to open a new one. ;-) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52036841 United States 02/09/2014 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So...why would this thread get the double-tap (that's what I'm calling the relatively new phenomenon of getting two, instant one-star ratings)? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54122108 sorry to make it double... i missed the first one. it died fast and was polluted... so it's good idea to open a new one. ;-) Agree - I will try to find the other "hands in pockets" guy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24846741 United States 02/09/2014 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Book 5 00039484 In this report witness seen a man standing by one of the classrooms. He looked at her and said "What" and she told him she thinks there was a shooter in the building. She also seen Hochsprung comes out of conference room and only Hochsprung. She watched her walk toward the main entry. So where is Sherlach? In another report it was stated both Hochsprung and Sherlach went out the door almost as one. |
Fred (OP) User ID: 53301007 Switzerland 02/09/2014 09:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Book 5 00039484 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24846741 In this report witness seen a man standing by one of the classrooms. He looked at her and said "What" and she told him she thinks there was a shooter in the building. She also seen Hochsprung comes out of conference room and only Hochsprung. She watched her walk toward the main entry. So where is Sherlach? In another report it was stated both Hochsprung and Sherlach went out the door almost as one. if we believe the sign-in sheet CFS 1200704559 / Book 2 / 00006246.pdf the witness who sign in - sing out at 9:31-9:32 is Mrs Ryler but why there is not the other parents? |
sqware User ID: 16561345 Argentina 02/09/2014 10:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if we believe the sign-in sheet Quoting: Fred 53301007 CFS 1200704559 / Book 2 / 00006246.pdf the witness who sign in - sing out at 9:31-9:32 is Mrs Ryler but why there is not the other parents? Per your original post, that last entry in the Visitor's sheet is when the parent dropped off the apology note for her child cheating on a test. She took the note to what looks like "Mrs. Rylor", which could be teacher Amy Taylor in Room 5 (2nd grade). |
Fred (OP) User ID: 53301007 Switzerland 02/09/2014 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if we believe the sign-in sheet Quoting: Fred 53301007 CFS 1200704559 / Book 2 / 00006246.pdf the witness who sign in - sing out at 9:31-9:32 is Mrs Ryler but why there is not the other parents? Per your original post, that last entry in the Visitor's sheet is when the parent dropped off the apology note for her child cheating on a test. She took the note to what looks like "Mrs. Rylor", which could be teacher Amy Taylor in Room 5 (2nd grade). yes we could read Taylor too.... |
sqware User ID: 53912213 Argentina 02/09/2014 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if we believe the sign-in sheet Quoting: Fred 53301007 CFS 1200704559 / Book 2 / 00006246.pdf the witness who sign in - sing out at 9:31-9:32 is Mrs Ryler but why there is not the other parents? I wonder if the other parents had not yet arrived because the Gingerbread building and bonding thing didn't start until 09:45? |
Fred (OP) User ID: 53301007 Switzerland 02/09/2014 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if we believe the sign-in sheet Quoting: Fred 53301007 CFS 1200704559 / Book 2 / 00006246.pdf the witness who sign in - sing out at 9:31-9:32 is Mrs Ryler but why there is not the other parents? I wonder if the other parents had not yet arrived because the Gingerbread building and bonding thing didn't start until 09:45? one parent was already here for sure. he arrives at 9:30 and was waiting in the east hallway. so i think only teacher sign this sheet. so it's maybe Taylor. [link to i56.servimg.com] (on left) |
Ericm User ID: 54162244 United States 02/10/2014 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in Quoting: Fred 53301007 CFS 1200704559 / Book 5 / 00005519.pdf it's the interview of a parent who dropped a letter at sandy hook school. signed in at 9:31 and sign out at 9.32. "XXX stated that there was an older man, approximately 60-65 years old , dressed in dark clothing, with his hands in his pockets. He was walking in and shuffling." 60-65 yo... it's a bit aged to be a parent? no? Dang! That is odd for sure. So many odd things... |
Fred (OP) User ID: 53301007 Switzerland 02/27/2014 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in Quoting: Fred 53301007 CFS 1200704559 / Book 5 / 00005519.pdf it's the interview of a parent who dropped a letter at sandy hook school. signed in at 9:31 and sign out at 9.32. "XXX stated that there was an older man, approximately 60-65 years old , dressed in dark clothing, with his hands in his pockets. He was walking in and shuffling." 60-65 yo... it's a bit aged to be a parent? no? Dang! That is odd for sure. So many odd things... yep..odd! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 589518 Australia 02/27/2014 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in Quoting: Fred 53301007 CFS 1200704559 / Book 5 / 00005519.pdf it's the interview of a parent who dropped a letter at sandy hook school. signed in at 9:31 and sign out at 9.32. "XXX stated that there was an older man, approximately 60-65 years old , dressed in dark clothing, with his hands in his pockets. He was walking in and shuffling." 60-65 yo... it's a bit aged to be a parent? no? Where the hell do you live, that domed city from Logans Run? Never heard grandparents? |
Fred (OP) User ID: 53301007 Switzerland 02/27/2014 05:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in Quoting: Fred 53301007 CFS 1200704559 / Book 5 / 00005519.pdf it's the interview of a parent who dropped a letter at sandy hook school. signed in at 9:31 and sign out at 9.32. "XXX stated that there was an older man, approximately 60-65 years old , dressed in dark clothing, with his hands in his pockets. He was walking in and shuffling." 60-65 yo... it's a bit aged to be a parent? no? Where the hell do you live, that domed city from Logans Run? Never heard grandparents? and why thisgrand parent was never interviewed? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 589518 Australia 02/27/2014 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in Quoting: Fred 53301007 CFS 1200704559 / Book 5 / 00005519.pdf it's the interview of a parent who dropped a letter at sandy hook school. signed in at 9:31 and sign out at 9.32. "XXX stated that there was an older man, approximately 60-65 years old , dressed in dark clothing, with his hands in his pockets. He was walking in and shuffling." 60-65 yo... it's a bit aged to be a parent? no? Where the hell do you live, that domed city from Logans Run? Never heard grandparents? and why thisgrand parent was never interviewed? Who says he wasn't? |
Fred (OP) User ID: 53301007 Switzerland 02/27/2014 05:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in Quoting: Fred 53301007 CFS 1200704559 / Book 5 / 00005519.pdf it's the interview of a parent who dropped a letter at sandy hook school. signed in at 9:31 and sign out at 9.32. "XXX stated that there was an older man, approximately 60-65 years old , dressed in dark clothing, with his hands in his pockets. He was walking in and shuffling." 60-65 yo... it's a bit aged to be a parent? no? Where the hell do you live, that domed city from Logans Run? Never heard grandparents? and why thisgrand parent was never interviewed? Who says he wasn't? i dont see any grandparent interview in the final report |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54968305 United States 02/28/2014 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A flat expression and shuffling could indicate Parkinson's, as could the shuffling. Theses symptoms could also indicate high dose psych meds. Mask of parkinsonism? Not that dementia alone would cause a problem. Parkinsonian dementia has led to murders before. [link to newoldage.blogs.nytimes.com] Let’s be clear: physically aggressive behavior arises in a sizable minority of dementia patients — a German study of nursing home patients published last year put the proportion at nearly 29 percent – but those most endangered are the people with dementia themselves and their caregivers. It is irrational to fear an assisted living/dementia care complex near a residential neighborhood, as some Minnesotans did a few years back, as though its elderly residents would break out and menace passers-by. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 28283737 United States 02/28/2014 10:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A flat expression and shuffling could indicate Parkinson's, as could the shuffling. Theses symptoms could also indicate high dose psych meds. Quoting: zenobiaphobia Mask of parkinsonism? Not that dementia alone would cause a problem. Parkinsonian dementia has led to murders before. [link to newoldage.blogs.nytimes.com] Let’s be clear: physically aggressive behavior arises in a sizable minority of dementia patients — a German study of nursing home patients published last year put the proportion at nearly 29 percent – but those most endangered are the people with dementia themselves and their caregivers. It is irrational to fear an assisted living/dementia care complex near a residential neighborhood, as some Minnesotans did a few years back, as though its elderly residents would break out and menace passers-by. Good point and very interesting, zenobiaphobia! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54968305 United States 02/28/2014 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then, the "mask like features" could be a real mask [link to www.spfxmasks.com] (I want to be "The Sarge") |
FlashBuzzkill User ID: 26255514 United States 02/28/2014 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then, the "mask like features" could be a real mask Quoting: zenobiaphobia [link to www.spfxmasks.com] (I want to be "The Sarge") Would explain the flat expression. Wearing an overcoat and NOT interviewed. Shuffling gait explains movement while carrying a carbine or shotgun under your coat. I think we may have a shooter here. Last Edited by FlashBuzzkill on 02/28/2014 12:31 PM Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America. |
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