SCREW THE POOR: Meet Mr. Atlas as he is about to Shrug

I'm curious, have you actually read any of her work? Most of it is utter tripe, you know. or at least you would if you knew what the fuck you were talking about. which you clearly don't.

possibly the only valuable extrapolation from Rand's philosophy is that man is fundamentally free, has free will and has the RESPONSIBILITY to HIMSELF as a HUMAN BEING to enshrine his own free will and assert himself.

Also, notbaly, you aren't actually giving me a reply that takes the form of any logic or any constructed argument - it's merely an ad hominem.

So, to reply in kind, quietly go fuck yourself you uneducated bigot.

fuck yes, a well formulated response.

My view is romanticised due simply to my naivete - I'm young but I have been studying Rand's material for quite some time, trying to find the iota of value that lay hidden within.

I would say that your point stands valid; few if any would be able to extend their corporate interests without getting into bed with the banks.

Is that not however a symptom of the marketplace? the inevitability of mingling with the most toxic crowd in human history? For instance, if I were a drug dealer, it would be inevitable that I should interact with the local Nigerian gangsters for the sake of business - but I'll be damned it this makes me a Nigerian gangster.

Yes, Ayn Rand was the mistress of a Rothschild and she wrote Atlas Shugged as a blueprint for the New World Order TAKE OVER of the world.

Ayn Rand = Communist New World Order promoter

Atlas Shrugged = New World Order propaganda
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fuck yes, a well formulated response.

My view is romanticised due simply to my naivete - I'm young but I have been studying Rand's material for quite some time, trying to find the iota of value that lay hidden within.

I would say that your point stands valid; few if any would be able to extend their corporate interests without getting into bed with the banks.

Is that not however a symptom of the marketplace? the inevitability of mingling with the most toxic crowd in human history? For instance, if I were a drug dealer, it would be inevitable that I should interact with the local Nigerian gangsters for the sake of business - but I'll be damned it this makes me a Nigerian gangster.

You asked "I'm curious, have you actually read any of her work? " to which I reply....INDEED I have read her wrirings. I have her writings in my modest library. This is how I can say:

Yes, Ayn Rand was the mistress of a Rothschild and she wrote Atlas Shugged as a blueprint for the New World Order TAKE OVER of the world.

Ayn Rand = Communist New World Order promoter

Atlas Shrugged = New World Order propaganda.
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thank you for that interesting take, what is it that makes Nigerians so able at as conmen/shysters/hucksters/deceivers?

Here's the deal the system will fail, because the good Average Joe is too busy holding line by cutting his lawn, sweeping his sidewalk, and putting food on the table for his kids. He generally obeys traffic signals, uses his blinker and his kind to his fellow citizens. He also votes because he trusts the system to take of things he is too busy to do, because he is doing his end mind you. While Average Joe is busy holding the line and so forth it seems a few have decided to overly enrich themselves at the expense of all the Average Joes because Average Joe is of course of good character and thus always able to be easily duped. Well the point is Average Joe is out of money and time, system fail.

PS: Sooner or later Average Joe will wake up because he has to, but by then the gold is missing, the offices are empty, and the criminals long gone, their tracks covered by false history. End of Story.

Here's the deal the system will fail, because the good Average Joe is too busy holding line by cutting his lawn, sweeping his sidewalk, and putting food on the table for his kids. He generally obeys traffic signals, uses his blinker and his kind to his fellow citizens. He also votes because he trusts the system to take of things he is too busy to do, because he is doing his end mind you. While Average Joe is busy holding the line and so forth it seems a few have decided to overly enrich themselves at the expense of all the Average Joes because Average Joe is of course of good character and thus always able to be easily duped. Well the point is Average Joe is out of money and time, system fail.

PS: Sooner or later Average Joe will wake up because he has to, but by then the gold is missing, the offices are empty, and the criminals long gone, their tracks covered by false history. End of Story.

I don't have time to debate with those suffering delusions of grandeur.

No, you don't have the skills to debate, the intellectual acumen or the necessary arguments (which do exist. All you have is dismissive undermining of cognition, ad hominems and shaky rhetoric.

Delusions of grandeur, ey?
“the people who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do.”


― Steve Jobs

And with that, please go fuck yourself :D

Proverbs 11:24-25 One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed.




Proverbs 14:20-21 The poor are shunned even by their neighbors, but the rich have many friends. He who despises his neighbor sins, but blessed is he who is kind to the needy.


What a mean thread

This is literally too funny. If you read it that way, if that is what you want to see, then that is how you will see it. I bet if you read Nietzsche's Genealogy of Morals you would find the same teleology.

You'll find that Rand's version of the "NWO" is SUPREMELY FUCKED. Any good debate will yield that her "Atlantis" is purely hypothetical and as a real political construct could never function. Thus, if it is propaganda, it's pretty damn stupid propaganda.

AGAIN, demonstrating your lack of familiarity with the material, the centerpiece of Atlas Shrugged is FREE WILL AND THE INDIVIDUAL RIGHT TO PURSUE HIS OWN ENDS.

yeah..... yeah..... yeah..........

If I made you laugh, good for me. Laughing is fun and I do a great deal of it in the forum, so it's only fair that you get to laugh too.

I am not concerned about what you believe. I have posted enough information on page 11 to show people REALITY.

If you want to focus on a FANTASY book as if it is reality, who am I to argue? Enjoy yourself while you can.

Assuming the tens of millions of "leeches" had the time,
money, know how, skill, etc.. to start a business, the odds
of any given business succeeding in the long term are extrememly low, in fact you'd have much better odds going
to Las Vegas and gambling with whatever assets you have.
Given that the vast majority of leeches don't have the skills, money etc. to even contemplate starting a business, it is kind of dumb to suggest they just go out and start one. People who are already in established businesses are having to close shop or cut back, they are generally having a tough time of it, thanks to offshoring etc....so to suggest someone with nothing to bring to the table just step in and succeed in this business environment, is just, not really good advise.

Bafflingly, many libertarians regarded the 2008 financial crash – caused by unrestrained, unregulated free-market capitalism (exactly the system demanded by Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged) – as “Atlas Shrugged happening in real life.” Presumably, what they meant by this was that, in order to save the economy, the government was forced to rely on socialist bailouts of the financial system.

In fact , what happened was the precise inverse of Ayn Rand’s mad book. In that book, socialist “moochers and looters” try to steal the profits of the “wondrous” entrepreneurial capitalists. In 2008, it was the “moochers and looters” who were forced to pay up to keep the reckless, irresponsible capitalists in business.

The socialists saved the capitalists’ bacon – and got no thanks or reward for it whatsoever!
That’s anarcho-capitalist libertarianism for you

Remarkably, even though 2008 formally refuted all of Ayn Rand’s doctrines, her supporters viewed the same facts as a triumphant vindication! It just shows how powerful cognitive dissonance is.

Ayn Rand’s infamous book Atlas Shrugged is about pure psychopathy and a right wing coup by the super rich, led by John Galt (an unquestionable fictional psychopath.) Atlas Shrugged is the story of elite psychopaths going on strike and exhibiting pathological hatred towards a non-psychopathic left wing government seeking to promote the general good, despite the elitist saboteurs and psychopaths in their midst. Rand herself   was a psychopath, and addicted to extremely strong sado-masochistic sex. She dreamt of being raped by a strong, dominant man – a supreme psychopath such as John Galt, her fictional ideal man. Anarchists are psychopaths because they want all rules to be abolished. They reject government, the State, laws, leaders – anything that gets in the way of their personal psychopathy and compulsive need to do whatever they want, regardless of others.

Hockney, Mike (2013-12-24). All the Rest is Propaganda (The God Series) (Kindle Locations 8068-8077). Hyperreality Books. Kindle Edition.


Who are the biggest "moochers?' The little guys who's hope & future have been destroyed by the filth of Wall Street, or the same filth that accepted BILLIONS in government handouts to save their empires?


This book is a secret societies response to that repugnant book


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I guess each person has thier own view of a situation but John Galt as a psychopath?? Did you even bother reading this book?
The looters and moochers are the government & select friends & anyone who make a way of life from the welfare state.

John Galt stood up in the factory who first ran this social experiment of everyone works to the best of thier abilities but earns based on thier needs. He stood up against this and said he will stop the engine of the world.

It was the entrepeneurs, the artists, the inventors, the creative people whose ideas are squashed due to over regulations set in place to stifle the spirit of the free thinkers and they departed to a eutopian society which encouraged personal responsibility, liberties and freedom of choice with limited government. Leaving the shithole government with nothing but its moochers and no more producers.

In Atlas shrugged it wass the people who were inventive, creative, prosperous who were taken to the cleaners thru regulations, fines, fees, liscenses and taxes.

"The government takes what it wants in the name of social benifit and taxes what it leaves behind.

On a personal note im tired of working for the benifit of those with thier hand out who do jack shit nothing but sit on the couch, watch tv and make babies they cant support. I propose that anyone on welfare be limited in support to a single child. Not that they cant have more only the social handouts only be given to 1 child.... guess what would happen?? stupid bitches wouldnt be having 13 kids and screaming for help on youtube like its someone elses responsibility to take care of them.

Take some personal responsibility you freaking moochers and get out an do a days labor for a days pay because soon enough the ebt card will quit working an then what?

Such a great, well written article.

The pity me, free shit army is fucked when the working people stop giving a shit.

You're not too bright, are you? Lol. While the book may be a fantasy, Rand went through a horrible time and used that for the books. Maybe it's just you that don't "get" it.

Well..... you could be right. I might not be "too bright", but I'm bright enough to know New World Order propaganda when I see it and hear it and read it.

I also know when I'm talking to talentless hacks who are PAID by a USA govt contractor to write drivel on the internet to deceive people.

Your drivel is obvious.
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You and anyone who thinks like this is a fool or a corporate shill.

I wouldn't imagine facts would get in the way of a good old fashioned ignorant American rant, but here goes:

About $59 billion is spent on traditional social welfare programs. $92 billion is spent on corporate subsidies. So, the government spent 50% more on corporate welfare than it did on food stamps and housing assistance in 2006.
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The rich take more "socialist, communist" help than anyone. Now by all means, go back to sleep.

You reap what you sow.

Today's youth is underemployed, even those with drive and an education are finding it difficult to gain employment, never mind in their field of study. Just check the unemployment rates for young adults.

Many would love to work and contribute but without employment opportunities, it isn't possible.

No one wants to pay for another, but we all live in this society.
Don't want to pay, then start putting pressure on your politicians to stop sending jobs overseas, start making it easier for those with money to bring jobs back.

Sorry, but whining about the poor doesn't fix the problems, just creates a more divided society, imo.

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fuck yes, a well formulated response.

My view is romanticised due simply to my naivete - I'm young but I have been studying Rand's material for quite some time, trying to find the iota of value that lay hidden within.

I would say that your point stands valid; few if any would be able to extend their corporate interests without getting into bed with the banks.

Is that not however a symptom of the marketplace? the inevitability of mingling with the most toxic crowd in human history? For instance, if I were a drug dealer, it would be inevitable that I should interact with the local Nigerian gangsters for the sake of business - but I'll be damned it this makes me a Nigerian gangster.

I like it when a person knows their limitations and clearly you know yours. I applaud you for knowing that you are no longer able to converse intelligently. Why you didn't know it a few moments earlier when you decided to engage me is anyone guess.

The point is..... you have now recognized your own mental feebleness and you have decided to let someone else's pictures do your "talking" for you.

You are not a quick learner, but you did learn something, and that's a good thing. Keep the happy thoughts.