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Bonus Noise (OP) User ID: 54172142 Luxembourg 02/13/2014 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sadly most people in power actually benefit from these current divisions. "The weight of your thoughts in your world are determined by how much attention and strength you yourself give them. The weight of your thoughts, in turn and in sum, determine yourself. The weight of yourself, in sum and in turn, is the weight of the world." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The God(s) a.k.a aliens or E.T's came down from the heavens and created man in their own image and in their own liking" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54301565 United Kingdom 02/13/2014 11:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Now... if everyone would just go ahead, realize this, get over it, and get a long with each other." Do you 'get along' with those who sexually abuse children or rape women? If not....Why not? Please tell us. Do you 'get slong' with people to make peace or to keep peace? If it's the latter, surely the peace is false and based upon untruths, no? Peace can only ever come from truth, it's foundation must be truth. Otherwise, it's a house of cards which will crumble at the next gust of wind. I'm curious, why do you not list Freemasonry as a religion, specifically as the most dominant religion today in the west? Of course it's disciples have no clue of this...even though they espouse their preaching at every opportunity. Quite like your comments really. Who do you think taught you to perceive Islam, Christianity and Judaism as the same? Who has taught you to perceive Jesus Christ as the same as buddha, mohammed etc? Certainly no man in Christ. Who has taught you to only perceive these three as religions so that Buddhism, Hinduism, Kaballahism and freemasonry can be brought into schools and mass media without people noticing? Who can put words in yoda's mouth to preach Jewish mysticism without anyone batting an eye? Who can blatantly wrap Zeus worship in a sports bow and tie and incredibly....pass it off as sport? In which case, your post is nothing new and makes no new claim. It is unoriginal and has been read and heard by everyone thousands of times over this past decade or two at least. Since repetition is a key indicator of propaganda and indoctrination, I'd like you to consider the source of your thread. By singling out three, your entire focus has been shifted from the truth. The truth is simple: the Righteousness of God has been revealed to man, in Christ. Therefore there are only two options in this world 1) seek your own salvation based upon your own righteousness or 2) humbly seek the righteousness of God and His Kingdom That is the true division in this world. By making you perceive the three as the same, they have very cleverly hid the truth from you. Are there many within the Christian community who hold #1? Yes. In which case, yes they are like all other religions and atheism and humanism on this planet. Know your enemy son - they are very very clever at changing your perception of reality. |
Bonus Noise (OP) User ID: 54172142 Luxembourg 02/13/2014 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Now... if everyone would just go ahead, realize this, get over it, and get a long with each other." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54301565 Do you 'get along' with those who sexually abuse children or rape women? If not....Why not? Please tell us. Do you 'get slong' with people to make peace or to keep peace? If it's the latter, surely the peace is false and based upon untruths, no? Peace can only ever come from truth, it's foundation must be truth. Otherwise, it's a house of cards which will crumble at the next gust of wind. I'm curious, why do you not list Freemasonry as a religion, specifically as the most dominant religion today in the west? Of course it's disciples have no clue of this...even though they espouse their preaching at every opportunity. Quite like your comments really. Who do you think taught you to perceive Islam, Christianity and Judaism as the same? Who has taught you to perceive Jesus Christ as the same as buddha, mohammed etc? Certainly no man in Christ. Who has taught you to only perceive these three as religions so that Buddhism, Hinduism, Kaballahism and freemasonry can be brought into schools and mass media without people noticing? Who can put words in yoda's mouth to preach Jewish mysticism without anyone batting an eye? Who can blatantly wrap Zeus worship in a sports bow and tie and incredibly....pass it off as sport? In which case, your post is nothing new and makes no new claim. It is unoriginal and has been read and heard by everyone thousands of times over this past decade or two at least. Since repetition is a key indicator of propaganda and indoctrination, I'd like you to consider the source of your thread. By singling out three, your entire focus has been shifted from the truth. The truth is simple: the Righteousness of God has been revealed to man, in Christ. Therefore there are only two options in this world 1) seek your own salvation based upon your own righteousness or 2) humbly seek the righteousness of God and His Kingdom That is the true division in this world. By making you perceive the three as the same, they have very cleverly hid the truth from you. Are there many within the Christian community who hold #1? Yes. In which case, yes they are like all other religions and atheism and humanism on this planet. Know your enemy son - they are very very clever at changing your perception of reality. Thanks for your lengthy and interesting response. I did not include buddhism, hinduism because I consider those religions quite different. I was not trying to be 'original', I am just completely tired and fed up with all these religious wars, atrocities and suffering going on for centuries now over basically, nothing. If anything I am trying to unite everyone and make them see that only love of your fellow man and all of creation is the answer, focus on what is the same between you and him, because the similarities enormously outweigh the differences. Yet we always focus on the differences. Now, as for getting along with rapists, hell no, I despise them, somehow religion and child abuse go hand in hand, new scandals emerging nearly weekly, especially in the Christian community. I believe in a 'god', a divine force, the source of all, the creator of everything that we know, so also Islam and any other religion. and ALL men, and ALL of creation stand under this same very god. Now you have to my interpretation adopted a stance where only Christianity is the righteous way. Resulting that fellow non-christians are not equal to you and deserve to suffer eternal damnation. How wrong you are, for this is the highest form of ignorance. For maybe it is you who has been deceived. by adopting a doctrine which has perpetrated hideous crimes throughout history with their crusades, which force fed their beliefs to natives in the americas and all over the world, murders of 'witches' in their witch hunts and numerous counts of child abuse in the highest ranks. etc etc This doctrine being not so far from fascism. On one thing we can agree however: "Know your enemy son - they are very very clever at changing your perception of reality." Last Edited by Bonus Noise on 02/13/2014 12:58 PM "The weight of your thoughts in your world are determined by how much attention and strength you yourself give them. The weight of your thoughts, in turn and in sum, determine yourself. The weight of yourself, in sum and in turn, is the weight of the world." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The God(s) a.k.a aliens or E.T's came down from the heavens and created man in their own image and in their own liking" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39631800 United States 02/13/2014 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You do know your precious bible was just plagiarized from sumero-babylonian and other older myths by people who wanted power & wealth for their own selves, right? Your god ordered murdering people and taking their women for guess what? Your god ordered stoning people and your very own children. Your bible inspired war, genocide, & hate. Then the church wanted a piece of the pie. Then so did Mohammed. Then so did the Protestants. And the fucked up cycle goes on. And you, people, love those con artists scamming the living daylights out of you. "You want to get rich? Start a religion. That'w where the money is." Ron Hubbard |
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Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 User ID: 54075808 Israel 02/13/2014 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | please take Judaism out of this. Judaism an authentic faith that is a cultural heritage a people, like all other none Abrahamic religions. Judaism is not responsible for the roman epire creating Christianity and islam as spin offs. it is violation of cultural property. Judaism is a peaceful religion, it is not resposnisble for the death and war brought by the spin off religions. which the very name tells you what they are RE-LEGIONnazation of Judaism to serve as legions under caeser. |
No Dhimmi User ID: 54070537 United States 02/13/2014 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Muhammad vs Jesus Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53935039 Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam. (Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38) Said God loves everyone. (John 3:16) "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33) "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." (Matthew 26:52) Stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206) "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." (John 8:7) Permitted stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764) "Thou shalt not steal." (Matthew 19:18) Permitted lying. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857) "Thou shalt not bear false witness." (Matthew 19:18) Owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901) Neither owned nor traded slaves. Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390) Beheaded no one. Murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) Preached forgiveness. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38) "If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him" (Qur'an 2:194) "If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39) Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645) "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of God" (Matthew 5:9) Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50) Was celibate. Slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236) Did not have sex with children. Ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995) Never harmed a woman. "O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Qur'an 9:123) "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." (Matthew 5:5) Ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq ) Ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any approval of war or violence. Killed captives taken in battle. (Ibn Ishaq 451) Never took captives. Never killed anyone. Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women. (Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24) Never encouraged rape. Never enslaved women. Demanded captured slaves and a fifth of all other loot taken in war. (Qur'an 8:41) "The Son of Man came not to be served, but to serve." (Matthew 20:28) Was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764) Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone. "And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah" (Qur'an 8:39) "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" (Matthew 5:44) Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man (al-Tabari 1440) Healed a blind man (Mark 8:28) Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743) Washed his disciples feet. (John 13:5) What are the Greatest Commandments? "Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause" (Muslim 1:149) What are the Greatest Commandments? "Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 22:34-40) Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship (Qur'an 4:102) Chastised anyone attempting to defend him with force. (John 18:10-12) Died fat and wealthy from what was taken from others in war or demanded from others in tribute. Demanded nothing for himself. Died without possessions. Advocated crucifying others. (Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131) Was crucified himself. According to his followers: Had others give their lives for him. (Sahih Muslim 4413) According to his followers: Gave his life for others. (John 18:11 and elsewhere) ALL relevant scriptures that include a time factor prove no pre-trib rapture. Over 50 verses! Kindle Edition only 99 CENTS! Biblical Eschatological “Time-Stamps” Relevant to the Last Day/Days (Amazon) |
Somebody.... User ID: 1189609 United States 02/13/2014 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See, you're talking reliion, as you are deceived. Fortunately, the awakened are talking Christ... Seek Christ, not religion, as it did not die on the Cross for you. Get over what? Death? That's what you're going to get, if you don't get over your unbelief. Jude 1:16-20 16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage. 17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. 19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit. 20 But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost, I am warning you, as you live hour by hour (1 Cor 15), accept Christ...don't die in your unbelief, sins. |
Bonus Noise (OP) User ID: 54172142 Luxembourg 02/13/2014 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You do know your precious bible was just plagiarized from sumero-babylonian and other older myths by people who wanted power & wealth for their own selves, right? Your god ordered murdering people and taking their women for guess what? Your god ordered stoning people and your very own children. Your bible inspired war, genocide, & hate. Then the church wanted a piece of the pie. Then so did Mohammed. Then so did the Protestants. And the fucked up cycle goes on. And you, people, love those con artists scamming the living daylights out of you. "You want to get rich? Start a religion. That'w where the money is." Ron Hubbard This. The religions, all which have good intent have been misused and exploited for the good of the few. And their followers lied to. "The weight of your thoughts in your world are determined by how much attention and strength you yourself give them. The weight of your thoughts, in turn and in sum, determine yourself. The weight of yourself, in sum and in turn, is the weight of the world." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The God(s) a.k.a aliens or E.T's came down from the heavens and created man in their own image and in their own liking" |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 54172142 Luxembourg 02/13/2014 03:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | please take Judaism out of this. Quoting: Dreamily Resonant VIP 2 Judaism an authentic faith that is a cultural heritage a people, like all other none Abrahamic religions. Judaism is not responsible for the roman epire creating Christianity and islam as spin offs. it is violation of cultural property. Judaism is a peaceful religion, it is not resposnisble for the death and war brought by the spin off religions. which the very name tells you what they are RE-LEGIONnazation of Judaism to serve as legions under caeser. My prerequisite opinion is that all religion have good intent at their basis. Certainly the earliest ones, which were then indeed plagiarized and miss-interpreted. Exploited for the good of the few. Used in the most horrendous ways to achieve agendas which were hidden from the normal faithful people who just wanted to get on with their lives and practice their given right to exercise their religion. They have all been lied to. It saddens me to the bone. |
Bonus Noise (OP) User ID: 54172142 Luxembourg 02/13/2014 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Muhammad vs Jesus Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53935039 Said Allah hates those who don't accept Islam. (Qur'an 30:4, 3:32, 22:38) Said God loves everyone. (John 3:16) "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33) "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." (Matthew 26:52) Stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206) "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." (John 8:7) Permitted stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764) "Thou shalt not steal." (Matthew 19:18) Permitted lying. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857) "Thou shalt not bear false witness." (Matthew 19:18) Owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901) Neither owned nor traded slaves. Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Sahih Muslim 4390) Beheaded no one. Murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) Preached forgiveness. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38) "If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him" (Qur'an 2:194) "If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39) Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645) "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of God" (Matthew 5:9) Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Qur'an 33:50) Was celibate. Slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236) Did not have sex with children. Ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995) Never harmed a woman. "O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Qur'an 9:123) "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." (Matthew 5:5) Ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq ) Ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any approval of war or violence. Killed captives taken in battle. (Ibn Ishaq 451) Never took captives. Never killed anyone. Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women. (Abu Dawood 2150, Qur'an 4:24) Never encouraged rape. Never enslaved women. Demanded captured slaves and a fifth of all other loot taken in war. (Qur'an 8:41) "The Son of Man came not to be served, but to serve." (Matthew 20:28) Was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764) Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone. "And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah" (Qur'an 8:39) "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" (Matthew 5:44) Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man (al-Tabari 1440) Healed a blind man (Mark 8:28) Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743) Washed his disciples feet. (John 13:5) What are the Greatest Commandments? "Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause" (Muslim 1:149) What are the Greatest Commandments? "Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 22:34-40) Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship (Qur'an 4:102) Chastised anyone attempting to defend him with force. (John 18:10-12) Died fat and wealthy from what was taken from others in war or demanded from others in tribute. Demanded nothing for himself. Died without possessions. Advocated crucifying others. (Qur'an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131) Was crucified himself. According to his followers: Had others give their lives for him. (Sahih Muslim 4413) According to his followers: Gave his life for others. (John 18:11 and elsewhere) This is a perfect example of a wrongly paraphrased & plagiarized version of the Qur'an. Just made to created further division. Just to further enhance the: "We are right and you are wrong" paradigm. To blind people. To further divide & conquer the masses. Last Edited by Bonus Noise on 02/13/2014 03:53 PM "The weight of your thoughts in your world are determined by how much attention and strength you yourself give them. The weight of your thoughts, in turn and in sum, determine yourself. The weight of yourself, in sum and in turn, is the weight of the world." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The God(s) a.k.a aliens or E.T's came down from the heavens and created man in their own image and in their own liking" |
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Bonus Noise (OP) User ID: 54172142 Luxembourg 02/13/2014 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My friend had a temporary marriage with an Imam. She was an Orthodox Jew . She read the Koran same book as bible only the names have changed to aggrandize their religion Quoting: Anonymous Coward 46181201 Thanks for this 1st hand example of the copying/plagiarising/paraphrasing that is going on between these major religions. I just wish people would focus on and start to see the similarities between themselves, rather than always focus on the differences. I mean, how often do we think about; we all have 10 fingers, 2 eyes, 2 legs, 10 toe's, a bunch of hair etc etc no. We always have to think about; i'm different, i'm like this, they are like that. Sick of it. Peace for all Last Edited by Bonus Noise on 02/13/2014 04:37 PM "The weight of your thoughts in your world are determined by how much attention and strength you yourself give them. The weight of your thoughts, in turn and in sum, determine yourself. The weight of yourself, in sum and in turn, is the weight of the world." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The God(s) a.k.a aliens or E.T's came down from the heavens and created man in their own image and in their own liking" |