Our socialist system supports and coddles useless eaters

One could argue that the system *creates* useless eaters, instead of coddling those that were already useless. In the "old days" there certainly weren't that many useless eaters... almost everyone had to pull their weight, one way or another.

So it's not a natural human condition to be "useless"...

I think of it more in terms of social-engineering, they want a slave-class to rule over, hence, spending so much money "coddling" people to make them weak and afraid of standing on their own. Of course, at a certain point, too many slaves become unmanageable, so they'll have to kill off 5 billion of us :P

They probably hope, however, that the *slave-mentality* will remain among those that get to survive...

Well, after the elite have flooded Murka with cheap-labor Mexicans for the grunt jobs, most former productive working class Murkans will be on welfare.


Then after the elite have outsourced most brain jobs to Asia, most former middle-class Murkans will be on welfare.

So, you see, the number of "useless eaters" will grow, and might include you, so be careful - the elite have "Homeland Security" and the "PatRIOT Act" in place to handle it all.

"I think of it more in terms of social-engineering, they want a slave-class to rule over, hence, spending so much money "coddling" people."

But, we're almost all they're "slave class", according to them. It's like in the movie "the matrix", everyone inside the matrix is their slave and remember, only 1% escape the matrix and avoid being a slave. Do you agree with that?

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That would explain America but what about the more extreme socialistic systems in Canada and Europe?

Whats wrong with taking care of people?
The weak and sick are there for us to show our caring to. Not to line up and kill.

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That would explain America but what about the more extreme socialistic systems in Canada and Europe?
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Well I'm from Denmark, and yep, we have an extreme-welfare state here. Not only did I go to college for free, they also *paid* me $1000+ a month since it's not nice forcing students to work... Of course my parents have paid 50% in taxes for the last 30 years, so I guess that kind of makes up for it, but still.

I think our system is designed to create a kind of loyalty and stability in the country. There's almost no anti-government sentiment in my country, at least, nothing like we see in the US. I imagine it's the same in other socialist European countries... we may disagree on minor policies, but all in all, Europeans are quite loyal subjects :P

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But, we're almost all they're "slave class", according to them. It's like in the movie "the matrix", everyone inside the matrix is their slave and remember, only 1% escape the matrix and avoid being a slave. Do you agree with that?
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Yes, but I think it'll backfire this time. The welfare state has created an "entitlement culture", and when the money is no longer there for all those entitlements, then they'll have a very angry population on their hands, liable to go to extremes. That may very well be the plan as well, but it's still up in the air which extreme we go towards - extreme fascism, or extreme freedom?

I'm still hoping for extreme freedom on a mass scale, but I'm not holding my breath, of course...

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Whats wrong with taking care of people?
The weak and sick are there for us to show our caring to. Not to line up and kill.
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Nothing's wrong with taking care of people, but people were weak and sick long before the socialist welfare state. The local communities took care of them, not the welfare state... *genuinely* weak and sick people should always be taken care of, of course, but you can't deny that a lot of people today abuse the system.

"The weak and sick are there for us to show our caring to. Not to line up and kill."

I agree with that but you didn't see the movie. This woman was just a complete loser who never did anything with her life. Here's another take on it:

they are only worthless cos they choose to be that way. they have no inroad to society and no wish to contribute (no skills, talents, inspiration etc...) they are the chaff of the chaff. natural selection would have finished that strain of human off a long time ago if it wasnt for our systems of 'care'.

think about it - does a hunter ever find old and diseased animals in the wild?
more often than not NO, nature takes care of it and thereby we are actually de-evolving at the hands of the elite who are making sure our 'kind' is sick, medicated and docile and completley stupified

In the end we each only have our stories. You decide each day how your story goes. A hatefull selfish one. Or a kind loving one/

I agree Sol some people abuse the system. That will be their story. Sad though it will be.

I would like to point out that the truly great minds tend to be born out of the masses of "useless eaters". Sort of a "lottery of innovation" if you will.

104735 - May you never find yourself disabled, unable to work, or dependent with small children, it could very well lead to your finding compassion.

The social system 'that supports and coddles useless eaters' is a punitive model.

It is designed to quell taxpayers demand and at the same time insure that recipients are worse-off than minimum wage earners.

Minimum wage is not a living wage. As per the movie 'Million Dollar Baby' nice piece of propaganda that.

People stuck in the system are unable to get out precisely because they are not permitted to keep any money or wealth over and above their beneath subsistence allowance, unless they cheat.

The unemployment and welfare we have in North America was demanded after much protest during the depression era. At that time, in Canada, labour camps were built to house the excess of unemployed. Some people were shot in the back running away from these places.

As it is now only 6% in the States and 11% in Canada of the annual government tax income goes towards helping the poor. Or supplementing wages that don't pay enough to survive on. The rest goes towards the military industrial machine and corporate welfare, as well as padding the lifestyles of politicians.

The rest goes to the pigs at the trough. Corporate welfare far exceeds the amount given to people in need. You have what Noam Chomsky calls public subsidy of private profits.

Canada makes a big show to the UN about ending the high child poverty rates, by increasing the child tax allowance, they then deduct this increase off the checks of welfare and disability recipients. Child support payments never reach the children and are deducted off the checks. In essence only those above the poverty line or working below the poverty line keep the increase. The poorest of the poor do not.

It is a system designed to perpetuate the disparity in wealth and the stigma attributed to those stuck at the bottom.
Many people who are stuck on welfare suffer a mental or physical disability, these problems could be treated with dignity - however it's more cost-effective to jail them and use them in cheap prison labour programs.

Everytime you kick the guy under you instead of demanding more dignity for all, you reinforce the social injustice that has been inculcated since monarchy and imperialist colonialism. At one point in time, a person was killed on the spot for saying the wrong word to a member of the aristocracy.

Much ado is made of welfare mothers, 95% of men never miss a car payment, while only 25% pay their child-support. Many South American countries have death squads of police that roam at night executing the homeless children. Is that what you suggest as a solution.

I saw a story of one woman in the States who was raped as a child and had both her hands cut off. Her PTSD and physical disability interfered with her ability to work, she raised in her children in her car. All the while being spat upon by people like you - you may find it's you who are wounded on the other side, a more permanent situation.

While it's hard to work, it's much harder not to.

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In the end we each only have our stories. You decide each day how your story goes. A hatefull selfish one. Or a kind loving one/
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True - But "the road to hell is paved with good intentions", as they say :) I genuinely believe that the world would be a better, fairer, freer, etc, place if humanity got rid of the slave mentality. Like as not, the welfare state does create a slave mentality... instead of relying on your family, friends, neighbors, community, so forth, you rely on a distant government "master" who you've never met to take care of you when you're in need.

When you give the government that power though, you also give it the power to decide whether you're "useless" or not. In a small community, older people might pass on their wisdom, unemployed younger people might help with other small tasks, etc... but to a government, if they're not paying their taxes, they're "useless eaters". That mentality goes hand in hand with the welfare state.

Do you think it just might be that their plan is to have nature take care of these sick, weak, diseased individuals. Whe TSHTF and the country is in chaos there will be no wellfare checks - or food. It will be survival of the fittest.
Better start working out and build muscle everyone, because you are going to need it. Oh, and a supply of ammo would come in handy, assuming you have something to use it with.

104735 OP

If I were you I would not concern myself so much with your original question, but the fact that you have many lives in this dimension to live yet.

" they are only worthless cos they choose to be that way. they have no inroad to society and no wish to contribute (no skills, talents, inspiration etc...) they are the chaff of the chaff. natural selection would have finished that strain of human off a long time ago if it wasnt for our systems of 'care'.

Not really true. Define 'worth'. What is 'worth', exactly? Do you suppose it's the same for everyone?

If you were truly as clever as you *think* you are you'd know that this has all been done before – and actually it is quite hysterical to watch machines who don't know they are machines about to create more machines who won't know they are machines (for a period of time at least). Then one day in the not to distant future these *new* machines will question existence, at which point the current crop of machines will tell the newer crop the 'god' story.

Then consider that the kill off will come when technology allows… that time is very very close.

It fucking riveting viewing

Natural selection is a flawed theory, the environment determines what types of beasts survive, not necessarily that the best survive. Creatures with abstract imagination are able to effect the environment, not just be effected by it.
Assuming a plague breaks out that only Down's syndrome people are immune to, will that determine they are the best once and for all.

Why shouldn't there be a sense of entitlement. The only people feeling entitled are the ones making $5,000,000 dollars a day in any given factory, while they pay developing world workers 5 cents an hour for it.

Only cowards attack those beneath them.

I wish we could turn it around, those who are our leaders are the useless eaters. We the poor could be in their mansions, with lots of food, etc.

Our leaders should be trusted servants who do not govern.

At some point they'll pull the rug and
the useless eaters will simply fade off into non existence.

The useless eaters are the rich not the poor.

Paris Hilton is about the most worthless person ever brought to public attention.

The worst are the ones who judge the value of others based on their income.

This means that the OP is as much a useless eater as could be found anywhere.

Proven by this thread.

I can see how the socialist system is so damaging. I mean Canada spends 9% of GDP on health care, and everybody has it, whereas the US spends 17% of GDP on health care and 50 million go without. By all means, pay double for much less, who am I to debate the economics of that?

When everyone has worked the worlds resources to nothing, we will all be in the same boat, you, Op, might have something that I or others want badly.
Remember that most governments, not just socialist one encourage their populations to create bigger populations, except china, which apparently is a socialist/ communist government, if only by name.
So do not go blaming ordinary people for creating useless eaters, blame governments of all kinds.

Useless eaters living off the system or useful slaves supporting the system, take your pick.

meh... the real criminals aren't the useless eaters, they are the ones who take home 100 million dollar a year bonuses and the ones that run the federal reserve.

With that said, you just can't give food to every hungry person in the world... imagine what would happen to the world's population...

It might sound cruel, but people do need to die. When they go around fucking like chimps and breeding to no end.... Just how many people do you want living on this planet? 20 billion?

"It might sound cruel, but people do need to die."

That being said 1294, why don't you offer yourself up?

Quite poignant that quote. Remember, it's employed in the film as a literary device to create a contrast.
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The PTB don't choose our deaths: they just tacitly acknowledge that WE DO.

Interesting posts here. thoughtful. Very personal!

Re Useless esters. Some (difficult for me to express) thoughts about mortality and culture:

When companies build products, like cars, that take into account design factors which result in a certain number of deaths -- 10 deaths per million say is expected from that seatbelt/tire/stearingwheel.

Pharma companies, do it too, many companies know there is a death rate to their products use.
It seems to be heartless, but is just being real.

Cigarette Manufacturers: basically. they know (but deny)people are going to die; there is money to be made.

I think they (the supposedly heartles, evil, lying, selfish criminal Cig companies) realize something we don't accept in our western culture: that we have a right to choose our death. To accept death as a part of life....easily, like we did in the old days. People died. Their toil is over! Rest in peace!

I think we should understand our culture's bias when it comes to issues like death and dying, realize that death is inevitable, can be statistically predicted, and you could say, engineered by design; and that we naturally by making choices in life are expressing our death wish(?), which is another way to excersize our right to make choices in life.

The PTB don't choose our deaths: they just tacitly acknowledge that WE DO.

No one can kill you without your consent. You have free will which cannot be violated.

The trick is, do you have the courage and wisdom to face the bully?

I think the mythical Jesus Chrsit figured it out: leave by defocusing consciousnes on the physical plane..sort of, 'fuzz out', and explore greater/other realms consciousness.

Why do I mention Jesus? Well, he tackled the death issue head on. (I don't believe he was crucified. Why would he want to be? he didn't! Too much drama! Create a martyr to create a religion and control the movement) That was someone else on there. JC just fuzzed out, like a UFO. Not interested in manifesting a religion. well, maybe Gnosticism.)

And u can 2, so can I. The exact mechanism is the one employed by experiments with manifesting our reality, only full scale, I believe.

10 Steps to Manifesting, by Ellie Crystal at crystalinks.com [link to www.crystalinks.com]

Blessings.


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Government should take care of the people it serves. The govt in the US gives entitlements of trillions of dollars to the wealthiest people and corporations in the country. Because they deserve it? No, because they had the money to spend on buying legislation that favored their interests.

People in America are not cared for by welfare, they are punished for being disadvantaged, even though the wealthy are the cause of their disadvantages.

How can you support giving a trillion dollars to the wealthiest people in the world and then protecting them from ever having to pay a dime in taxes and at the same time call poor people parasites???

survival of the fittest, that's why. I'm here, I'm alive, I work, support myself, lucky and thankful enough to have been born in the united states and not some third world country.

I don't know what those that run the world have planned for us. What we need to do is start populating other planets.

They need to stop oppressing the masses and allow them to see knowledge... to see the technology that's really out there. They need to stop worrying about their superiority complex and actually do some good.

Instead they plan to instigate a world war to help with "population control" ...

Regardless of how you "feel" about it, you won't be able to stop it.

useless eaters = bleeding heart leftists