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Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up

 
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Shadow Beam......if we that close to an eruption would they at this point be allowing visitors into the park? I just saw a family like 10mins ago in there wandering around?

Also has anyone see any bison there recently? I have not been paying attention to the park until today?
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i hounestly have no idear!!!
nobody does....
what seems normal, will no longer be normal....
and what was normal, was never normal
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Shadow Beam......if we that close to an eruption would they at this point be allowing visitors into the park? I just saw a family like 10mins ago in there wandering around?

Also has anyone see any bison there recently? I have not been paying attention to the park until today?
 Quoting: saffire&gold


i hounestly have no idear!!!
nobody does....
what seems normal, will no longer be normal....
and what was normal, was never normal
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I hope that they would stop all the visitors if an eruption of any size were about to happen.. Surely they must know with all their technology how close it is.

I guess all we can do is keep watching.....tks Shadow.
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Shadow Beam......if we that close to an eruption would they at this point be allowing visitors into the park? I just saw a family like 10mins ago in there wandering around?

Also has anyone see any bison there recently? I have not been paying attention to the park until today?
 Quoting: saffire&gold


From the other thread, regarding the bison:

Well, I would hope they are taking samples and such, so it doesn't seem out of place.

If this was from last week, I think I might know what was happening there:


"Apparently there are dead bison left scattered around the Park from the winter, which have remained out of the view of the cams. They may be coming to collect the carcasses:

Then it was off to the Old Faithful area where the boardwalks had been closed due to all the carcasses in the area (none visible on the streaming webcam – and no bears seen on there yet this year). It was a hard winter for the bison that wintered over in the Upper Geyser Basin this year. We had heard they might move some of the carcasses to open up the bike path to humans, but no such luck."

[link to www.geyserwatch.com]
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


I'm sorry to say, but I feel that the above sounds really fishy. Yes, roughly 10% of bison die over the winter, and roughly 30% of the younger bison die over the winter but at last count there were over 4000 bison at the park. Since the park is so massive, one of 2 things is going on here.

1) A larger than average number of bison went into the start of winter in bad shape

or

2) something else killed a large number of bison.

I'm leaning toward number 2, and I feel that it could be related to gases coming up from the ground around the geysers.

Either I'm right or I'm wrong, but something seems bad about this.

[link to www.nps.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55919869


I found this post at Yellowstone Forums from a visitor who claims that there have been three suspicious deaths of bison at the same spot at different times...

[link to forums.yellowstone.net]

Excerpt:

"Dad and I spent Fri - Sun in the Park. On Friday, we saw a dead cow bison at the top of Blacktail, across from the "Forces of the Northern Range Self-Guiding Trail." It was very close to the road and so we weren't surprised to see the Park Service remove the carcass (too close to the road and at a place where people stopping could create a management issue) - we actually ended up parked watching as the road was temporarily blocked by the pickup into which they loaded it. Okay, so that wasn't strange... winter kill, or so it appeared, with spine, pelvis and rib bones quite apparent.

However, two other cows were there at the same location and, by Sunday, they had died as well. On Sunday, we saw Park Service personnel at that location and appearing to investigate one of the carcasses. It does seem a bit odd that three would die at the same location - a location where, at least to the best of my knowledge, there are not gas vents (bison do sometimes die in groups around gas vents). Anyone hear anything?"


The other posters on this thread can't accept the possibility that there might be NEW gas vents opening up. The discussion devolves into a flame war about gun control and poaching.

Whereas the OP of that post doesn't sound convinced that it was poachers at all.
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Shadow Beam......if we that close to an eruption would they at this point be allowing visitors into the park? I just saw a family like 10mins ago in there wandering around?

Also has anyone see any bison there recently? I have not been paying attention to the park until today?
 Quoting: saffire&gold


From the other thread, regarding the bison:

Well, I would hope they are taking samples and such, so it doesn't seem out of place.

If this was from last week, I think I might know what was happening there:


"Apparently there are dead bison left scattered around the Park from the winter, which have remained out of the view of the cams. They may be coming to collect the carcasses:

Then it was off to the Old Faithful area where the boardwalks had been closed due to all the carcasses in the area (none visible on the streaming webcam – and no bears seen on there yet this year). It was a hard winter for the bison that wintered over in the Upper Geyser Basin this year. We had heard they might move some of the carcasses to open up the bike path to humans, but no such luck."

[link to www.geyserwatch.com]
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


I'm sorry to say, but I feel that the above sounds really fishy. Yes, roughly 10% of bison die over the winter, and roughly 30% of the younger bison die over the winter but at last count there were over 4000 bison at the park. Since the park is so massive, one of 2 things is going on here.

1) A larger than average number of bison went into the start of winter in bad shape

or

2) something else killed a large number of bison.

I'm leaning toward number 2, and I feel that it could be related to gases coming up from the ground around the geysers.

Either I'm right or I'm wrong, but something seems bad about this.

[link to www.nps.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55919869


I found this post at Yellowstone Forums from a visitor who claims that there have been three suspicious deaths of bison at the same spot at different times...

[link to forums.yellowstone.net]

Excerpt:

"Dad and I spent Fri - Sun in the Park. On Friday, we saw a dead cow bison at the top of Blacktail, across from the "Forces of the Northern Range Self-Guiding Trail." It was very close to the road and so we weren't surprised to see the Park Service remove the carcass (too close to the road and at a place where people stopping could create a management issue) - we actually ended up parked watching as the road was temporarily blocked by the pickup into which they loaded it. Okay, so that wasn't strange... winter kill, or so it appeared, with spine, pelvis and rib bones quite apparent.

However, two other cows were there at the same location and, by Sunday, they had died as well. On Sunday, we saw Park Service personnel at that location and appearing to investigate one of the carcasses. It does seem a bit odd that three would die at the same location - a location where, at least to the best of my knowledge, there are not gas vents (bison do sometimes die in groups around gas vents). Anyone hear anything?"


The other posters on this thread can't accept the possibility that there might be NEW gas vents opening up. The discussion devolves into a flame war about gun control and poaching.

Whereas the OP of that post doesn't sound convinced that it was poachers at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47956221

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55919869


Tks for sharing this. Things getting stranger & stranger there. I'm thinking gases are killing them? Today I was watching the webcam & a geyser shot up a large amount of steam which headed toward the camera. The camera got splashed with water from the steam & the operator had to turn the camera down towards the ground to clear the lens & protect it from more water spray. I've never seen that happen before on the webcam.
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Shadow Beam......if we that close to an eruption would they at this point be allowing visitors into the park? I just saw a family like 10mins ago in there wandering around?

Also has anyone see any bison there recently? I have not been paying attention to the park until today?
 Quoting: saffire&gold


From the other thread, regarding the bison:

...


I'm sorry to say, but I feel that the above sounds really fishy. Yes, roughly 10% of bison die over the winter, and roughly 30% of the younger bison die over the winter but at last count there were over 4000 bison at the park. Since the park is so massive, one of 2 things is going on here.

1) A larger than average number of bison went into the start of winter in bad shape

or

2) something else killed a large number of bison.

I'm leaning toward number 2, and I feel that it could be related to gases coming up from the ground around the geysers.

Either I'm right or I'm wrong, but something seems bad about this.

[link to www.nps.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55919869


I found this post at Yellowstone Forums from a visitor who claims that there have been three suspicious deaths of bison at the same spot at different times...

[link to forums.yellowstone.net]

Excerpt:

"Dad and I spent Fri - Sun in the Park. On Friday, we saw a dead cow bison at the top of Blacktail, across from the "Forces of the Northern Range Self-Guiding Trail." It was very close to the road and so we weren't surprised to see the Park Service remove the carcass (too close to the road and at a place where people stopping could create a management issue) - we actually ended up parked watching as the road was temporarily blocked by the pickup into which they loaded it. Okay, so that wasn't strange... winter kill, or so it appeared, with spine, pelvis and rib bones quite apparent.

However, two other cows were there at the same location and, by Sunday, they had died as well. On Sunday, we saw Park Service personnel at that location and appearing to investigate one of the carcasses. It does seem a bit odd that three would die at the same location - a location where, at least to the best of my knowledge, there are not gas vents (bison do sometimes die in groups around gas vents). Anyone hear anything?"


The other posters on this thread can't accept the possibility that there might be NEW gas vents opening up. The discussion devolves into a flame war about gun control and poaching.

Whereas the OP of that post doesn't sound convinced that it was poachers at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47956221

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55919869


Tks for sharing this. Things getting stranger & stranger there. I'm thinking gases are killing them? Today I was watching the webcam & a geyser shot up a large amount of steam which headed toward the camera. The camera got splashed with water from the steam & the operator had to turn the camera down towards the ground to clear the lens & protect it from more water spray. I've never seen that happen before on the webcam.
 Quoting: saffire&gold


wow
seems very strange.....

hmmmmmm
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hiding
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hiding

seems like some patterns are emerging that look very, doomy

might have further evidence that data is being tampered with!!

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i cant seem to find any data on water temps :s
its all unavalible

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hiding

holy molly.....
look, these events are linked

[link to pbo.unavco.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

all the data matchs
from the intial pressure event, leading into seismic events, then harmonic events, then data wipes from the seismos.

number cruntch time

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Yep, watching
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hmmmm
from yesterday

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with this still looking like this, USGS silence says alot......

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

if we get to may 3rd, i wounder what there press release will say.....

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if you take a look at this map, [link to quakes.globalincidentmap.com] you can see all of "God's Work" ;) from the last 10-20 hours.

i just find id odd that there is not a single one showing from YS!?! i mean c'mon...
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does anyone know if it is really still dark there.. [link to www.nps.gov] ? shouldn't it, at least, already be dawning?
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does anyone know if it is really still dark there.. [link to www.nps.gov] ? shouldn't it, at least, already be dawning?
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6:14 AM
Sunrise in Yellowstone National Park, WY

4:15 AM current time - 2 hours.
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does anyone know if it is really still dark there.. [link to www.nps.gov] ? shouldn't it, at least, already be dawning?
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6:14 AM
Sunrise in Yellowstone National Park, WY

4:15 AM current time - 2 hours.
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thanks!
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wo-hoo look at her go! [link to www.nps.gov]
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it's dawning at YS! don't miss this! [link to www.nps.gov]
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These recent readings are so erratic, makes you wonder if something actually is going on but they're just hiding it from us..
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These recent readings are so erratic, makes you wonder if something actually is going on but they're just hiding it from us..
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you mean this? [link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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These recent readings are so erratic, makes you wonder if something actually is going on but they're just hiding it from us..
 Quoting: Colonisation


Like the way they took seismo's offline yesterday to, allegedly, recalibrate them.
I wonder is this the same sort of recalibration they did at El Hierro? They reduced the magnitude of quakes and frequency of quakes registered.
They can't prevent an eruption from doing this but they can try and prevent panic. The people on El Hierro could still feel the EQs but many weren't registering because of the recalibration.

The fact that they feel a need to hide information by recalibrating makes me more worried than anything else.
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Guys, I will quote the statement below from an AC from this thread >>> Thread: YELLOWSTONE UPDATES (2014) : ... Strange things happening @ Yellowstone... (Page 96)

It seems that May 2-3 2014 could be serious watch dates! siren2siren2siren2siren2

How long do you guys think we have before it blows up?
 Quoting: Weltsmertz



My intuitive friend, who can also time and dimension travel, sees it happening before this Saturday. It will not be as bad as what they are predicting, he says. He mentioned lots of ash.
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Norris Junction and Lake Butte still seem to show no slow down

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

YIKES!!!

The harmonic tremors seem to start on 4/26. So 4 days of constant harmonics so far.
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The activity at Norris Junction the past few days, just wow..

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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Guys, I will quote the statement below from an AC from this thread >>> Thread: YELLOWSTONE UPDATES (2014) : ... Strange things happening @ Yellowstone... (Page 96)

It seems that May 2-3 2014 could be serious watch dates! siren2siren2siren2siren2

How long do you guys think we have before it blows up?
 Quoting: Weltsmertz



My intuitive friend, who can also time and dimension travel, sees it happening before this Saturday. It will not be as bad as what they are predicting, he says. He mentioned lots of ash.
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 Quoting: Solar Guardian


jammy bastard

i can only dimension jump.

if only i'd paid for the souped up travelling machine.
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Lake Butte, Norris Junction, Mirror Lake, Little West and Mammoth Vault are all showing some degree of harmonic tremor today.
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FYI
Earthquake in USA on Wednesday, 30 April, 2014 at 16:29 (04:29 PM) UTC.
Description
Analysis of current behavior at Mount St. Helens indicates that the volcano remains active and is showing signs of long-term uplift and earthquake activity, but there are no signs of impending eruption. Since the end of the 2004-2008 dome-building eruption at Mount St. Helens, scientists at the USGS Cascades Volcano Observatory (CVO) and the Pacific Northwest Seismic Network (PNSN) have been monitoring subtle inflation of the ground surface and minor earthquake activity reminiscent of that seen in the years following the 1980-1986 eruptions. Careful analysis of these two lines of evidence now gives us confidence to say that the magma reservoir beneath Mount St. Helens has been slowly re-pressurizing since 2008. It is likely that re-pressurization is caused by arrival of a small amount of additional magma 4-8 km (2.5-5 miles) beneath the surface. This is to be expected while Mount St. Helens is in an active period, as it has been since 1980, and it does not indicate that the volcano is likely to erupt anytime soon. Re-pressurization of a volcano?s magma reservoir is commonly observed at other volcanoes that have erupted recently, and it can continue for many years without an eruption. USGS and PNSN are continuing to monitor ground deformation and seismicity at Mount St. Helens. In an effort to learn more about activity beneath the volcano, they will conduct two additional types of measurements this summer. Surveys will measure the types and amounts of volcanic gases being released, and the strength of the gravity field at the volcano. Both types of measurements are sensitive to changes in the amount or depth of subsurface magma. The information collected at Mount St. Helens continues to help scientists interpret behaviors at other volcanoes and to improve eruption forecasting capabilities. Additional research results will be posted in USGS Updates, Information Statements, and on the USGS-CVO website. In a previously planned but related development, an experiment called "Imaging Magma Under St. Helens" (iMUSH) will start this summer and run for the next few years. The experiment, jointly funded by the National Science Foundation and USGS, is designed to produce a better picture of the magma plumbing system under the volcano. It may also provide new insights into the ongoing re-pressurization process. The USGS Cascades Volcano Observatory and Pacific Northwest Seismic Network continue to monitor Mount St. Helens and other volcanoes of the Cascade Range for signs of increased unrest. The likelihood of detecting short-term precursory phenomena before the next eruption at Mount St. Helens is enhanced by the existence of an effective monitoring network established in response to recent eruptions. Efforts are underway to bring networks at other dangerous volcanoes in the Cascade Range up to a similar standard. The USGS and the Pacific Northwest Seismic Network at University of Washington continue to watch conditions at Mount St. Helens closely. (Source: USGS Volcano Notification Service)
[link to hisz.rsoe.hu]
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Norris Junction now showing improvement.
[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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Norris Junction now showing improvement.
[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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wow

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