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Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up

 
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Lake Butte

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and starting the day with new set of shakes... all kinds of flavors [link to quakes.globalincidentmap.com]
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Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up
INCREASING CHANCE OF FLARES:
NOAA forecasters have boosted the odds of an M-class flare today to 35%.
There are two possible blast sites: Earth-facing sunspots AR2047 and AR2049 both have 'beta-gamma' magnetic fields that harbor energy for strong eruptions

source: [link to spaceweather.com]

i have a feeling it is going to be more than 35%
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ok, on the Lake Butte sismo, is that a glitch in the equipment, or something else going on?
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[link to www.nps.gov]

Smoke look darker to anyone?
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i think she's going to go [link to www.nps.gov]
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Watch this timelapse from yesterday at Electric Peak.

Switch it to fullscreen, 480p and don't skip till you've seen what happens to the entire landscape after 1 min 20 secs into the video.

My own eyes don't know how to comprehend what is happening...



Ideas?
 Quoting: AllThatCanBe


i remember when e19 was erupting in Iceland, the cams were making that same wobbly motion, much more pronounced obviously, but I think it's an electromagnetic effect from the nearness of the magma to the cam
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ok, on the Lake Butte sismo, is that a glitch in the equipment, or something else going on?
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jmo, a glitch, because we WOULD see similar signals from the adjacent sensors.
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ok, on the Lake Butte sismo, is that a glitch in the equipment, or something else going on?
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Right, the thing is set for 1,600.00 uV (Micro-volts) per vertical division on the graph. Normally seiso's are set at 125 uV or 200 uV per division, so someone has cranked it right up in an attempt to reduce the sensitivity. Now either the electronic, programmable, attenuator has failed , and the thing is at 1 or less uv per division, which is the most likely scenario, or the ground is continuesly "shaking" by inches or possibly feet - rather unlikely. I suspect we'll see it disconnected soon, and either replaced or repaired, or they may be able to fit an in-line attenuator of some sort in the cable without having to try and dredge the thing up from a few hundred feet down the hole. Either way, they will have to get it back into a condition where it's more usable than it currently is.

I personally am ignoring it, because one wouldn't be able to determine if larger or abnormal shaking happend, since it's just "maxing out" on background noise right now.

I think it's quite safe to say "it's busted".
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Why is YellowStone NOT REPORTING these EARTHQUAKES???








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Watch this timelapse from yesterday at Electric Peak.

Switch it to fullscreen, 480p and don't skip till you've seen what happens to the entire landscape after 1 min 20 secs into the video.

My own eyes don't know how to comprehend what is happening...



Ideas?
 Quoting: AllThatCanBe


i remember when e19 was erupting in Iceland, the cams were making that same wobbly motion, much more pronounced obviously, but I think it's an electromagnetic effect from the nearness of the magma to the cam
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That makes too much sense.

scream
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Check out the charts from 4/28

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

So is all the equipment having glitches?
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Check out the charts from 4/28

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

So is all the equipment having glitches?
 Quoting: dyin


and look at the time stamps compared to data regarding pressure events at the lake....
they match up
il post in a tick
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Why is YellowStone NOT REPORTING these EARTHQUAKES???








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 Quoting: OpenlyCoward


hmmm
weird
but they have moded some stations to pick up less....seems dumb to me.

if your decideing a station is broken as its throwing out signals that suggest ground and pressure events, then shouldnt you decide to fix that station?
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bump
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you look at the figures in question here its crazy......

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org]

Kilauea
(averge activity dureing eruptive phase)
average stable level +320 micro tadians
320 average ascension micro radians
290 average decline mico radians

[link to pbo.unavco.org]

yellowstone (now)
average 0 (ground level)
current decline -181,300 micro radians
current ascension +1,300 micro radians

this gives sure fire evidence a HEAVY GROUND DEFORMATION EVENT STARTED 01/05/2014 on the lake bed.....

the stable elevation was 0 mico radians.
it droped rapidly, and now its climbing!
its currently +1,300 showing extream bulgeing activity.
a magma plume is accelerating towards the surface....and its causeing issues.
id say this is what has put the lake on tilt (south west) and events at noriss junction, lake butte and lake yellowstone itself, is this deormation being recorded.

 Quoting: Shadow Beam


new info on the latest deformation episode.....
after activity the lake borehole seismograph was shut down and displays a 'technical issue' message.

huge pressures are being felt

[link to pbo.unavco.org]

[link to pbo.unavco.org]

notice how the spectrogram of channel 1 on this next graph maxs out above 0.4 hrz?
well 1 hrz is a strong indication an eruption is moments away.....

[link to pbo.unavco.org]

following these episodes....a station went down
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm


[link to quake.utah.edu]
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hmmmm

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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 Quoting: Shadow Beam


eq
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these are weird signatures!

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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this is a typical echo type signal from a quake elsewhere

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

but here at Madison it registers as if madison is the epicenter

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

and here at north west thumb.....nada
just that weird strike pattern

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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 Quoting: Shadow Beam


eq
 Quoting: kundalinichi


is usgs reporting it?
i dont see it
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No, no, I posted that right after just looking at your link, it looked like a pretty strong and short event. No reports yet, I have been watching all night ^ um after going to the main thumbnail page I immediately saw that that event registered on EVERY seismo there. That was a quake, right?

First time I saw a event get registered on every single one. :o

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Saturday May 3 2014, 08:34:07 UTC 82 minutes ago Southern Idaho MAGNITUDE 3.8 DEPTH 5.0
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Saturday May 3 2014, 08:34:07 UTC 82 minutes ago Southern Idaho MAGNITUDE 3.8 DEPTH 5.0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57188978


wow
thats a good rattle
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Saturday May 3 2014, 08:34:07 UTC 82 minutes ago Southern Idaho MAGNITUDE 3.8 DEPTH 5.0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57188978


wow
thats a good rattle
 Quoting: Shadow Beam


To get a realistic idea of how strong the shake was in different area's of the park, one needs to note the number of divisions on a particular seismo, then scroll right to the bottom and note the sensitivity reading for that seismo in micro-volts (uV). Multiply the "divisions" by the uV. Doing this for each seismo will then correctly tell you where stronger and weaker shakes were recorded. Just looking at the graph tells you nothing, because some seiso's can be set up to 10 times or more difference in sensitivity, so the shake can look real small on a seismo near the epicenter, but really large on a seismo much further away.
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Saturday May 3 2014, 08:34:07 UTC 82 minutes ago Southern Idaho MAGNITUDE 3.8 DEPTH 5.0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57188978


wow
thats a good rattle
 Quoting: Shadow Beam


Also, plotting the shake in uV will give a fairly good idea of the general direction the shake came from, and also whether it was inside Yellowstone or external.
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Wouldn't it be nice if the calculations were done by the computer and all the graph's were displayed at the same scale? Oh, then we would have a much clearer picture of whats going on.......silly me.........
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Wouldn't it be nice if the calculations were done by the computer and all the graph's were displayed at the same scale? Oh, then we would have a much clearer picture of whats going on.......silly me.........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24889765


I do realise of course that the sensitivities are set so the geoligists can see the smaller detail of the wave-forms, but there could be two sets of graphs.......
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Collection of Yellowstone Cameras in one site

[link to www.yellowstone.co]

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