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Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up

 
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No, no, I posted that right after just looking at your link, it looked like a pretty strong and short event. No reports yet, I have been watching all night ^ um after going to the main thumbnail page I immediately saw that that event registered on EVERY seismo there. That was a quake, right?

First time I saw a event get registered on every single one. :o

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Saturday May 3 2014, 08:34:07 UTC 82 minutes ago Southern Idaho MAGNITUDE 3.8 DEPTH 5.0
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Saturday May 3 2014, 08:34:07 UTC 82 minutes ago Southern Idaho MAGNITUDE 3.8 DEPTH 5.0
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wow
thats a good rattle
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Saturday May 3 2014, 08:34:07 UTC 82 minutes ago Southern Idaho MAGNITUDE 3.8 DEPTH 5.0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57188978


wow
thats a good rattle
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To get a realistic idea of how strong the shake was in different area's of the park, one needs to note the number of divisions on a particular seismo, then scroll right to the bottom and note the sensitivity reading for that seismo in micro-volts (uV). Multiply the "divisions" by the uV. Doing this for each seismo will then correctly tell you where stronger and weaker shakes were recorded. Just looking at the graph tells you nothing, because some seiso's can be set up to 10 times or more difference in sensitivity, so the shake can look real small on a seismo near the epicenter, but really large on a seismo much further away.
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Saturday May 3 2014, 08:34:07 UTC 82 minutes ago Southern Idaho MAGNITUDE 3.8 DEPTH 5.0
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57188978


wow
thats a good rattle
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Also, plotting the shake in uV will give a fairly good idea of the general direction the shake came from, and also whether it was inside Yellowstone or external.
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Wouldn't it be nice if the calculations were done by the computer and all the graph's were displayed at the same scale? Oh, then we would have a much clearer picture of whats going on.......silly me.........
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Wouldn't it be nice if the calculations were done by the computer and all the graph's were displayed at the same scale? Oh, then we would have a much clearer picture of whats going on.......silly me.........
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I do realise of course that the sensitivities are set so the geoligists can see the smaller detail of the wave-forms, but there could be two sets of graphs.......
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Collection of Yellowstone Cameras in one site

[link to www.yellowstone.co]
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As an example.....

This shake today, May 3rd, which shows in blue over most of the park.

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

looks real small at Norris Museum.....

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

but Norris Museum is set to 1,333.33 uV. The shake shows just over 1 division in amplitude, so this would be around 1,500.00 uV. Being such high settings it's difficult to be precise.

Now Norris Junction, on the other hand, is set for 200.00 uV and looks quite big at 5 div.

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

so comes out at 1000 uV. Considering that all the seismo's are limited at 5 divisions, the shake could have been slightly stronger than we see, but for the most part it's within the limits, so I tend towards close to a 1000 uV shake.

Now Maddison River is set to 125 uV, and the shake was well into "clipping" at 5 divisions, so best we can see is 625 uV, but since it was so heavily clipped, the shake was way more than 625 - my guess? Around a 1000 uV.

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

Can't be arsed to do them all, so will take one more, the Lake. Seismo is set to 500 uV, and it shows about 2 div. at peak,(very thin single line), so again about 1000 uV.

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

This tells me that the shake was recorded at almost identical levels at all these locations. If the sensitivities were all set the same - at say 200 uV - then ALL the charts would show almost identical to Norris Junction.

This is why just looking at the graphs straight off tells one nothing much, and also why the sensitivities are set differently. At Maddison River we have no idea of how big a shake it was, because it's into limiting for much of the time, but we CAN see more detail and better duration definition. Whereas at the Lake we can see the shake was not more than 1000 uV, but there is very little definition or duration information for us.

Hope this helps us get a better picture when there are shakes like this.....
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Collection of Yellowstone Cameras in one site

[link to www.yellowstone.co]
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Great link - thanks!
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and further too the long post above......

that same shake at West Boundary came out at 6,665 uV! (5 div x 1,333.33).

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

and Moose Creek at 8,000.00 uV

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

so looking at the thumbnail map, it's epicentre was somewhere outside of the lower left........

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

Flagg Ranch comes out at about 2,500 uV

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

so Moose Creek felt it the strongest. Does this tie up with the reports, if it WAS reported?

Just wonder if what I'm doing is accurate enough to be of any use......
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and further too the long post above......

that same shake at West Boundary came out at 6,665 uV! (5 div x 1,333.33).

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

and Moose Creek at 8,000.00 uV

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

so looking at the thumbnail map, it's epicentre was somewhere outside of the lower left........

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

Flagg Ranch comes out at about 2,500 uV

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

so Moose Creek felt it the strongest. Does this tie up with the reports, if it WAS reported?

Just wonder if what I'm doing is accurate enough to be of any use......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24889765


Pitchstone came in at 800 and Mt. Sheriden at 200, so the shaking at Moose Creek, (8000), was 10 times stronger than at Pitchstone and 40 times stronger than at Mt. Sheridan, yet only 8 times stronger than over a large part of the park. Just wondering how much magma channels and the chamber come into play here.
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are those trees fell over ????

[link to www.nps.gov]










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are those trees fell over ????

[link to www.nps.gov]










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Sure looks like it........ damn, earthquake? or ground movement?
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are those trees fell over ????

[link to www.nps.gov]










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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56674568


Sure looks like it........ damn, earthquake? or ground movement?
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the cam is still shaking. lets see if it moves left or right it is this way for quite a while now




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and some fences were knocked over!
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Yellowstone Volcano Conspiracy Theories Claim USGS Is Hiding Earthquake, Fissures Data Over Supervolcano Fears



Yellowstone volcano conspiracy theories are claiming that the USGS is hiding the earthquake data that points to fissures opening up around Yellowstone national park. Further, they claim authorities are secretly evacuating towns in the area because of fears over a Yellowstone supervolcano forming as the caldera gets ready to pop.

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[link to www.inquisitr.com]





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Yellowstone Volcano Conspiracy Theories Claim USGS Is Hiding Earthquake, Fissures Data Over Supervolcano Fears
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Notice the image from your link:

[link to cdn.inquisitr.com]

A trident is displayed in the core it seems.
"The Physical World is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma, coated in a conundrum, basted with a paradox and garnished with uncertainty"
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Download Yellowstone Park, Fences Knocked Down Trees Fell Over, May 3rd 2014

the first 7 sec. you see the trees and later the fences






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Yellowstone Volcano Conspiracy Theories Claim USGS Is Hiding Earthquake, Fissures Data Over Supervolcano Fears
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56674568


Notice the image from your link:

[link to cdn.inquisitr.com]

A trident is displayed in the core it seems.
 Quoting: Bridge of Sighs




yeah... looks diabolic :)
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Yellowstone Volcano Conspiracy Theories Claim USGS Is Hiding Earthquake, Fissures Data Over Supervolcano Fears
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56674568


Notice the image from your link:

[link to cdn.inquisitr.com]

A trident is displayed in the core it seems.
 Quoting: Bridge of Sighs




yeah... looks diabolic :)
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that puts it in a new perspective

gasp
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WTF happened to this reading??

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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I was trying to figure them out. They are just about 30 1/2 minutes apart.

Someone suggested yesterday (?) that is could be solar recharge signals...but the local time starts too early, at 5:04 a.m.

Is it possible it is a 'dying battery' signal instead...which ends just about when the Sun is high enough to start recharging?

Each signal is the sae, so it looks as if the same thing is causing these pulses.
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


Excellent deduction there - I would imagine that they put some sort of artificial "signal" in to tell them there's aproblem, such as low battery voltage. Makes a lot of sense.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24889765


Wow. That is an excellent deduction!


But (ugh, sorry to do this...) if it was low battery, wouldn't we see that every morning?
And would all of them ping 'low battery' at the exact same time?

Probably man made tho. Off to google if there are any active mining operations near by.....
 Quoting: RefreshPage



Once again we are relegated to grasping at straws.

I have always said that these signals occurring at 'the same time' indicate something other than natural occurrence...especially when in such perfect sequence.

Not natural geomagnetics et al from Space.
Not natural magma movements all across the board.
Not from the Earth fracturing or moving or moaning or groaning.

Radio signal. Electromagnetic pulse. SOMETHING generated that causes an electrical pulse to be picked up.

Perhaps from a passing satellite?

What, then? That's the mystery.


On another note, I am, perhaps, more interested in finding out what causes the pulses to be recorded at differing amplitudes.

This might help us discover where things are more and less intense under ground...such as depth of magma, direction, consistency and the like.

Remember that we are only seeing a raw trace which lasts about 20 seconds.

Spreading them out and really investigating the subtle differences in nanoseconds will allow for other things to be visualized. And THIS is what we cannot possibly be seeing as armchair observers, looking solely at a picture of a trace.

cool2

Hopefully this is exactly what they are doing, by generating these pulses at times when they have the time, or reason to, dig a little deeper.

IDK.
 Quoting: Esoteric Morgan


WTF happened to this reading??

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
 Quoting: dyin


Others on the other thread is trying to work it out.
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Is this camera in a tree? It keeps shaking really bad and swaying back and forth

[link to www.nps.gov]

ETA: looks like trees are shaking in the background as well. Wind? The steam looks like its being blown around pretty good but the shaking of the trees doesn't look quite wind blown.

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Is this camera in a tree? It keeps shaking really bad and swaying back and forth

[link to www.nps.gov]

ETA: looks like trees are shaking in the background as well. Wind? The steam looks like its being blown around pretty good but the shaking of the trees doesn't look quite wind blown.
 Quoting: dyin


Yep, it's in a tree. The swaying is normal, but a good side to side jerking isn't.........and yes, we have seen the jerking on occasion
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Is this camera in a tree? It keeps shaking really bad and swaying back and forth

[link to www.nps.gov]

ETA: looks like trees are shaking in the background as well. Wind? The steam looks like its being blown around pretty good but the shaking of the trees doesn't look quite wind blown.
 Quoting: dyin


Yep, it's in a tree. The swaying is normal, but a good side to side jerking isn't.........and yes, we have seen the jerking on occasion
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24889765


I saw that a few times before posting the link - like an earthquake type jerking motion, quickly back and forth for a good 3-5 seconds and also a few quick snaps back and forth.
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shit fuck:

[link to quake.utah.edu]
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Is this camera in a tree? It keeps shaking really bad and swaying back and forth

[link to www.nps.gov]

ETA: looks like trees are shaking in the background as well. Wind? The steam looks like its being blown around pretty good but the shaking of the trees doesn't look quite wind blown.
 Quoting: dyin


hesright
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What is weird though, is that we have seen some real good jerking and could swear it was earthquake type movement, but the people wandering around don't seem to take any notice, as if they don't feel it at all?
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Download Yellowstone Park, Fences Knocked Down Trees Fell Over, May 3rd 2014

the first 7 sec. you see the trees and later the fences






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whoah insain

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