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Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up

 
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Excellent deduction there - I would imagine that they put some sort of artificial "signal" in to tell them there's aproblem, such as low battery voltage. Makes a lot of sense.
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Wow. That is an excellent deduction!


But (ugh, sorry to do this...) if it was low battery, wouldn't we see that every morning?
And would all of them ping 'low battery' at the exact same time?

Probably man made tho. Off to google if there are any active mining operations near by.....
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Once again we are relegated to grasping at straws.

I have always said that these signals occurring at 'the same time' indicate something other than natural occurrence...especially when in such perfect sequence.

Not natural geomagnetics et al from Space.
Not natural magma movements all across the board.
Not from the Earth fracturing or moving or moaning or groaning.

Radio signal. Electromagnetic pulse. SOMETHING generated that causes an electrical pulse to be picked up.

Perhaps from a passing satellite?

What, then? That's the mystery.


On another note, I am, perhaps, more interested in finding out what causes the pulses to be recorded at differing amplitudes.

This might help us discover where things are more and less intense under ground...such as depth of magma, direction, consistency and the like.

Remember that we are only seeing a raw trace which lasts about 20 seconds.

Spreading them out and really investigating the subtle differences in nanoseconds will allow for other things to be visualized. And THIS is what we cannot possibly be seeing as armchair observers, looking solely at a picture of a trace.

cool2

Hopefully this is exactly what they are doing, by generating these pulses at times when they have the time, or reason to, dig a little deeper.

IDK.
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WTF happened to this reading??

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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Others on the other thread is trying to work it out.
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Urm......
As far as guess's go, a satilite is rather far off

Id expect cme maybe, but satilite, hmmm, wow


anyway, no.....supriseingly this is not caused by a tiny metal spec thousands of km above it....
Its whats below it thats the issue

[link to pbo.unavco.org]

notice how Channel two spectograph is begining to look lile channel 1
Events working towards the 1hrz mark

Remember what i posted earlier....
Spectrograph readings at 1 hrz is a strong indication an eruption is very very close.
This signal is typicaly noticed MOMENTS before eruption.....

But yellowstone isnt typical
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WTF happened to this reading??

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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Others on the other thread is trying to work it out.
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Urm......
As far as guess's go, a satilite is rather far off

Id expect cme maybe, but satilite, hmmm, wow


anyway, no.....supriseingly this is not caused by a tiny metal spec thousands of km above it....
Its whats below it thats the issue

[link to pbo.unavco.org]

notice how Channel two spectograph is begining to look lile channel 1
Events working towards the 1hrz mark

Remember what i posted earlier....
Spectrograph readings at 1 hrz is a strong indication an eruption is very very close.
This signal is typicaly noticed MOMENTS before eruption.....

But yellowstone isnt typical
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Yes, agreed. What is happening NOW and the past month in all the data is enough for anyone in America to head for the stores to stock up on supplies for the indeterminate future.

At least that is what I would be doing, yesterday.

Best we can do is be alert, stay current on developments, and keep bringing up this data.

Yellowstone is not typical, you're right... though the data and measurements and everything we know up till now is indicative of 'pre-eruption' restlessness. And we all know that.

Especially the tiltmeters ( like at the Lake where there is a known 'bulge' at the bottom: [link to pbosoftware.unavco.org] ) , as Mt St Helen's was prepared over a week in advance thanks to the predictions based on their data:

"The repeated rise of magma into the dome before the eruptions produced an exceptional pattern of ground tilt on the crater floor that began 2 to 4 weeks before magma extruded onto the dome. This repeated pattern of ground tilt was one of the most reliable measurements of deformation that we used to accurately predict when the Mount St. Helens lava dome would erupt."
[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov]


I know I will following this for months still if it doesn't go soon. The signs are just too clear for laymen like most of us, and any further work by scientists will be guesswork on a rough prediction of 'when'... Which will likely be circulated amongst the politicians first, who might even legally withhold it.

Anyone know where Obama's at right now?

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WTF happened to this reading??

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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Others on the other thread is trying to work it out.
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Urm......
As far as guess's go, a satilite is rather far off

Id expect cme maybe, but satilite, hmmm, wow


anyway, no.....supriseingly this is not caused by a tiny metal spec thousands of km above it....
Its whats below it thats the issue

[link to pbo.unavco.org]

notice how Channel two spectograph is begining to look lile channel 1
Events working towards the 1hrz mark

Remember what i posted earlier....
Spectrograph readings at 1 hrz is a strong indication an eruption is very very close.
This signal is typicaly noticed MOMENTS before eruption.....

But yellowstone isnt typical
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Yes, agreed. What is happening NOW and the past month in all the data is enough for anyone in America to head for the stores to stock up on supplies for the indeterminate future.

At least that is what I would be doing, yesterday.

Best we can do is be alert, stay current on developments, and keep bringing up this data.

Yellowstone is not typical, you're right... though the data and measurements and everything we know up till now is indicative of 'pre-eruption' restlessness. And we all know that.

Especially the tiltmeters ( like at the Lake where there is a known 'bulge' at the bottom: [link to pbosoftware.unavco.org] ) , as Mt St Helen's was prepared over a week in advance thanks to the predictions based on their data:

"The repeated rise of magma into the dome before the eruptions produced an exceptional pattern of ground tilt on the crater floor that began 2 to 4 weeks before magma extruded onto the dome. This repeated pattern of ground tilt was one of the most reliable measurements of deformation that we used to accurately predict when the Mount St. Helens lava dome would erupt."
[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov]


I know I will following this for months still if it doesn't go soon. The signs are just too clear for laymen like most of us, and any further work by scientists will be guesswork on a rough prediction of 'when'... Which will likely be circulated amongst the politicians first, who might even legally withhold it.

Anyone know where Obama's at right now?
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Great post!!

Its all about keeping an open mind and focusing on the basics.

Yellowstone goes through heavy cycles of uplift and decline, in deformation episodes that look shooking.
Like the earth is breathing
but yellowstone is a monster
theres no saying how a eruption will take place.

Seems to me the helium venting that has increased is comeing from material closer to the mantle, this creates effects not recorded in human history.
The helium decays through materials in the crust, creating vast amounts of helium 3, and creating monumental pressures in the upper crust.
We are seeing such events now.
How long the decay process and gradiual melt continues is relative to the size of eruption......

The pressure events atm suggest maximum melt threshold is being breached in the older caldera, which will now feed vents at dome locations.
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Are these guys for real??.....

[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov]
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Are these guys for real??.....

[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov]
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that's Jacob Lowenstern

he's the head honcho there
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Are these guys for real??.....

[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov]
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Yeah they make it seem so... "Oh Ho Hum..." don't they?

No, actually what they are doing is: Working OVERTIME... To down-play all this, while actively covering up real data in one manner or another, and while pre-occupied with all that damage control, there's 2 or 3 people somewhere who are scrambling like mad men to get a grip on WTF is actually happening.

Because you see, they KNOW what this thing can do, and they KNOW if it does, that's it - GAME OVER - for everything.

So the #1 job of the USGS has now become spin control and the prevention of mass panic.

Only GOVERNMENT could be THIS STUPID.
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[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

CLASSIC harmonic signals there. and classic A types too

A types are signals of rock cracking, harmonics are magma injection

so what that chart is showing is magma injection deep down, along with rock fracture signals.

after a couple of good A type quakes, a 15 hour period of sustained harmonics got going at 5am

if you want to know what harmonics really look like, look at the signal at 05:19MST

CLASSIC one that is, and will give you an idea what to look for

later on they all merge into a mess of colour, but that was the first really good one of the day

did a quick image of that chart to explain what i mean..

[link to oi59.tinypic.com]

to ME, it looks like a couple of quakes fractured rock, allowing magma to pump in, and the chamber pressurised in a 15 hour period of magma pumping in

what is weird is as i was reading this thread, Volcano Hell, a documentary about Bernard Chouet and his discovery about Harmonic tremors is on the TV.

He was basically drawing that signal at 05:19MST on a blackboard. chuckle
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Yea just seen this, long period events.... Very similar....

Maybe somebody should ask chouet, see what he thinks....
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Scrap that, he works for the USGS!
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yeah, well they cant go saying 'oh look, we've found a new signal that predicts eruptions', then when we see them at one of the biggest on the planet, retract it.
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Yellow stone yellow stone. Mississippi shuffle. There's more to be found on us gs. NY not relying on pics but reviewing info. I would gladly say it but its horrible for the economy but there's one that's updated daily. Just scroll down right side and look for the....uknow...put your head..knees..kiss...bye. And its not to far away.
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From current point of interest..sorry
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Hmm, anything interesting happening at Yellowstone right now?
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Hmmmmm, is the live stream still down? Still camera's still "stuck" at yesterday? Sorry for asking but am on prepay data, so have to "conserve" it and not look at video streams etc to often....
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Hmmmmm, is the live stream still down? Still camera's still "stuck" at yesterday? Sorry for asking but am on prepay data, so have to "conserve" it and not look at video streams etc to often....
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Livestream is still down but this might be helpful (it also shows streaming) but it has all the webcams on it [link to webcams.volcanodiscovery.com]
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Hmm, anything interesting happening at Yellowstone right now?
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These seem intresting....
The weird ascend/descend strike wobbles...haha
duno what it is


[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

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Hmm, anything interesting happening at Yellowstone right now?
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These seem intresting....
The weird ascend/descend strike wobbles...haha
duno what it is


[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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wtf

that's being registered ACROSS the park!

5 signals.

i'll do a gif now. what the hell is that signal?
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Hmm, anything interesting happening at Yellowstone right now?
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These seem intresting....
The weird ascend/descend strike wobbles...haha
duno what it is


[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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wtf

that's being registered ACROSS the park!

5 signals.

i'll do a gif now. what the hell is that signal?
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Could it be electrical interferance from a dodgy streaming cam
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These seem intresting....
The weird ascend/descend strike wobbles...haha
duno what it is


[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
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wtf

that's being registered ACROSS the park!

5 signals.

i'll do a gif now. what the hell is that signal?
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[link to cdn.makeagif.com]

hang on, looking at them, they happen at the PRECISE same time on all the charts, and last the EXACT amount of time on all the charts too.

this is EITHER a server glitch, or a huge signal affecting the whole of the park at the exact same time. i don't really see how the second option could be the case. Must be a server glitch but i'm open minded on it. VERY interesting signal.
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Hmm, anything interesting happening at Yellowstone right now?
 Quoting: Colonisation


These seem intresting....
The weird ascend/descend strike wobbles...haha
duno what it is


[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
 Quoting: Shadow Beam


wtf

that's being registered ACROSS the park!

5 signals.

i'll do a gif now. what the hell is that signal?
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[link to cdn.makeagif.com]

hang on, looking at them, they happen at the PRECISE same time on all the charts, and last the EXACT amount of time on all the charts too.

this is EITHER a server glitch, or a huge signal affecting the whole of the park at the exact same time. i don't really see how the second option could be the case. Must be a server glitch but i'm open minded on it. VERY interesting signal.
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Am wondering if those blips aren't perhaps some sort of "echo-sounder" arrangement........perhaps trying to map out magma chambers/channels, or, if one wants to think scarily, trying to find out just how thin the ground is between the magma and us now, since all this weirdness started up......
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These seem intresting....
The weird ascend/descend strike wobbles...haha
duno what it is


[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]
 Quoting: Shadow Beam


wtf

that's being registered ACROSS the park!

5 signals.

i'll do a gif now. what the hell is that signal?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13849872


[link to cdn.makeagif.com]

hang on, looking at them, they happen at the PRECISE same time on all the charts, and last the EXACT amount of time on all the charts too.

this is EITHER a server glitch, or a huge signal affecting the whole of the park at the exact same time. i don't really see how the second option could be the case. Must be a server glitch but i'm open minded on it. VERY interesting signal.
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Am wondering if those blips aren't perhaps some sort of "echo-sounder" arrangement........perhaps trying to map out magma chambers/channels, or, if one wants to think scarily, trying to find out just how thin the ground is between the magma and us now, since all this weirdness started up......
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Wouldn't that be impossible to work out like how long is a piece of string kinda thing .....i have often wondered the same thing but didn't know of a way of finding out
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Yup, thinking more about it, if it were me, I would "depth sounding" all over the park right now, trying to figure out exactly where she's gonna blow first......
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Nah not impossible -conversly - it's exactly how these things work, send a "ping" down, measure how long it takes to come back and bingo, you know how thick the metal/ground/water depth/whatever one is measuring is. I am thinking the "depth sounder" has nothing to do with the seiso's, they are just picking it up. The seiso's probably have nothing to do with being involved in the actual measurements.
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what is interesting is all the signals are different sizes, related to the microvolts

for instance these two..

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

are TWICE the microvolts of this one..

[link to www.isthisthingon.org]

so that signal above is correspondingly TWICE the size of the signals on the charts with TWICE the microvolt level. now that is interesting to me.
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could they be 'pinging' it from a satellite?

that would produce a simultaneous signal across all the charts, wouldn't it?
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Nah not impossible -conversly - it's exactly how these things work, send a "ping" down, measure how long it takes to come back and bingo, you know how thick the metal/ground/water depth/whatever one is measuring is. I am thinking the "depth sounder" has nothing to do with the seiso's, they are just picking it up. The seiso's probably have nothing to do with being involved in the actual measurements.
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spot on
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O.K., here's what I am gonna do...

1. convert the "ping" readings on the seiso's to micro-volts.

2. Find the 3 strongest ones

3. Draw lines from each of those 3 seiso's to a mid-point between the other two.

Where all the lines intersect on the map is where the "pings" are originating. If the pings stay in that area, then watch that aerea VERY carefully......

Let's see what happens, will report back if what I do makes any sense.
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O.K., here's what I am gonna do...

1. convert the "ping" readings on the seiso's to micro-volts.

2. Find the 3 strongest ones

3. Draw lines from each of those 3 seiso's to a mid-point between the other two.

Where all the lines intersect on the map is where the "pings" are originating. If the pings stay in that area, then watch that aerea VERY carefully......

Let's see what happens, will report back if what I do makes any sense.
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Well done ..Way beyond my capabilities (which isn't hard) then we will know approx. when or if anything is happening
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O.K., here's what I am gonna do...

1. convert the "ping" readings on the seiso's to micro-volts.

2. Find the 3 strongest ones

3. Draw lines from each of those 3 seiso's to a mid-point between the other two.

Where all the lines intersect on the map is where the "pings" are originating. If the pings stay in that area, then watch that aerea VERY carefully......

Let's see what happens, will report back if what I do makes any sense.
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i don't think they're originating from within the park because they're happening at the exact same time on all charts.

if it's being 'pinged', it's being pinged from something out in space, maybe a black ops satellite?

just my opinion though

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