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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1496863 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't you people get fed up with so much fearmongering? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17662707 Yes, we know weather is changing. Its happening all over the world. Its called cycle. You all make it sound as if 98% of uk is effected. Its other way round. Only 2% is effected. Did you know that in total only 5800 houses have been flooded? And all of them have been on flood plains. Duh A disaster waiting to happen eventually that no one wanted to do anything about. Now think about this. Had the governments of the past made provisions for the floods, no one today would be screaming doom because no one would have been effected. Its not the weather that is the problem. Its a natural cycle. Its how we protect ourselves is the issue here. Imagine in Netherlands has not built dams all around the country. Doom would have been the major topic there. But as it stands, no one in Holland is talking about doom because they are well protected regardless of weather. It doesn't matter how many times the Thames barriers have been raised. It was built for that very purpose and it is doing its job. If necessary then they will build a higher one to better protect. So you see. Doom is due to lack of protection rather then severity of weather. For a start,the fearmongering as you call it is very enjoyable..... The Thames barrier has been raised every day..more times in a month than the first 15 years..this is a very,very dangerous situation and if you cant see that you are BLIND! |
Swim User ID: 54195888 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im not contradicting myself inasmuch as its not the weather per se we need to be wary of - its the fuckers controlling the environment. had they dredged the rivers then even though this is pretty unusual rainfall, things would still not have been any where near as bad as they are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54258597 dredging the river would not stop rising sea levels for example, the Thames barrier is being raised most days the reason for that is rising sea level.....I know the media keep babbling on about dredging rivers but that would not solve the problems There is no rising sea level issue yet. There may be by the end of this century. This is why they are closing the barrier Thread: BBC report a developing tidal flood situation -- From the end of my street ! (Page 3) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54258597 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | agreed. and its not rising sea levels that are flooding somerset, its rain that cant be carried away by fast flowing rivers. yes? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54258597 the somerset levels were successfully managed by the Rivers Authority for many years. then the ENVIRONMENT agency came along and basically stopped all dredging 'to protect wildlife', whilst repeating the mem that 'dredging doesnt work', when clearly it does have beneficial effects, as utilised by the now-defunkt Rivers Authority the clue is in the new name - 'environment' = agenda 21, NOT humans if sea levels rise on the coast that means the rivers estuary will push water back effecting inland areas such as summerset...the water can not escape dredging rivers will not solve this problem but but but! we are told its the worst rain since 250 years ago. we are not being told the flooding in this instance is caused by the sea as i said, the rivers authority successfully managed the rivers before they were removed. because it was a national authority responsible for a national duty. a duty they performed too successfully. hence the ENVIRONMENT agency took over and saw to it that this successful, proven operation was no more this cannot be overlooked and disregarded |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1496863 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im not contradicting myself inasmuch as its not the weather per se we need to be wary of - its the fuckers controlling the environment. had they dredged the rivers then even though this is pretty unusual rainfall, things would still not have been any where near as bad as they are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54258597 dredging the river would not stop rising sea levels for example, the Thames barrier is being raised most days the reason for that is rising sea level.....I know the media keep babbling on about dredging rivers but that would not solve the problems There is no rising sea level issue yet. There may be by the end of this century. This is why they are closing the barrier Thread: BBC report a developing tidal flood situation -- From the end of my street ! (Page 3) yes there is ,just because the media ignore it it still matters,the reason the Thames barrier is being raised every day(a sinister fact) is because the sea levels around the coast of the UK have risen.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 44037752 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes and another reason why we cannot even feed-these mass parasites that our inept government had brought in since 1970's Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44037752 We have more than 20 millions immigrations leeching our way of life into misery in a tiny country. UKIP 2015 to kick these three old regimes out. you are on the wrong thread This thread is about flooding jeez Yes you should widen your narrow mind up a bit.. Flood on farmland + less food to grow = Civil wars in any mass immigration countries. Your not English enough to see the big picture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1496863 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | agreed. and its not rising sea levels that are flooding somerset, its rain that cant be carried away by fast flowing rivers. yes? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54258597 the somerset levels were successfully managed by the Rivers Authority for many years. then the ENVIRONMENT agency came along and basically stopped all dredging 'to protect wildlife', whilst repeating the mem that 'dredging doesnt work', when clearly it does have beneficial effects, as utilised by the now-defunkt Rivers Authority the clue is in the new name - 'environment' = agenda 21, NOT humans if sea levels rise on the coast that means the rivers estuary will push water back effecting inland areas such as summerset...the water can not escape dredging rivers will not solve this problem but but but! we are told its the worst rain since 250 years ago. we are not being told the flooding in this instance is caused by the sea as i said, the rivers authority successfully managed the rivers before they were removed. because it was a national authority responsible for a national duty. a duty they performed too successfully. hence the ENVIRONMENT agency took over and saw to it that this successful, proven operation was no more this cannot be overlooked and disregarded Dredging rivers makes a diffrence but its not the full picture of whats going on |
Ohwell User ID: 34438959 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The economic toll of these floods will be the real damage, as predicted by me back in 1994......the great most satisfying thing is, my ex called me yesterday to apologise for calling me a nutter back in 1994 when i told her it would happen, but my date estimate was out, i said it would be around 2005, i've since learnt that consciousness does not know time being outside of it, hence i know longer put dates to my insights and visions Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53535864 BINGO!!! Disruption to virtually all economic activity and all works of life. Higher prices for goods and services. Money will loose its value. People will begin to question if money is really worth it. The PTB begin to loose power, control and their grips on the beliefs and consciousness of humanity. End of their control. They can't have this. So before conditions get really bad and people get a hang of what I said above, they (the PTB) will collapse the system and give people an excuse for their woes. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] And it's not only in the UK, the US and other parts of the world are experiencing severe weather changes too. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54187780 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | agreed. and its not rising sea levels that are flooding somerset, its rain that cant be carried away by fast flowing rivers. yes? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54258597 the somerset levels were successfully managed by the Rivers Authority for many years. then the ENVIRONMENT agency came along and basically stopped all dredging 'to protect wildlife', whilst repeating the mem that 'dredging doesnt work', when clearly it does have beneficial effects, as utilised by the now-defunkt Rivers Authority the clue is in the new name - 'environment' = agenda 21, NOT humans if sea levels rise on the coast that means the rivers estuary will push water back effecting inland areas such as summerset...the water can not escape dredging rivers will not solve this problem but but but! we are told its the worst rain since 250 years ago. we are not being told the flooding in this instance is caused by the sea as i said, the rivers authority successfully managed the rivers before they were removed. because it was a national authority responsible for a national duty. a duty they performed too successfully. hence the ENVIRONMENT agency took over and saw to it that this successful, proven operation was no more this cannot be overlooked and disregarded I tell you what you will have to do,dig a huge sink hole and have a huge lake where that water is now,If the Great Conveyor Belt has stopped then that water is only then london is going under water too.stay tuned its near end game and get all the people out of that area now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54258597 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't you people get fed up with so much fearmongering? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17662707 Yes, we know weather is changing. Its happening all over the world. Its called cycle. You all make it sound as if 98% of uk is effected. Its other way round. Only 2% is effected. Did you know that in total only 5800 houses have been flooded? And all of them have been on flood plains. Duh A disaster waiting to happen eventually that no one wanted to do anything about. Now think about this. Had the governments of the past made provisions for the floods, no one today would be screaming doom because no one would have been effected. Its not the weather that is the problem. Its a natural cycle. Its how we protect ourselves is the issue here. Imagine in Netherlands has not built dams all around the country. Doom would have been the major topic there. But as it stands, no one in Holland is talking about doom because they are well protected regardless of weather. It doesn't matter how many times the Thames barriers have been raised. It was built for that very purpose and it is doing its job. If necessary then they will build a higher one to better protect. So you see. Doom is due to lack of protection rather then severity of weather. yep. there are solid plans to upgrade the barrier like i said, its not the weather itself we should fear, it is those unelected EU bastards dictating what the EA are doing. we used to have a national rivers authority, now we have an environment agency that was imposed on us |
Swim User ID: 54195888 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | agreed. and its not rising sea levels that are flooding somerset, its rain that cant be carried away by fast flowing rivers. yes? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54258597 the somerset levels were successfully managed by the Rivers Authority for many years. then the ENVIRONMENT agency came along and basically stopped all dredging 'to protect wildlife', whilst repeating the mem that 'dredging doesnt work', when clearly it does have beneficial effects, as utilised by the now-defunkt Rivers Authority the clue is in the new name - 'environment' = agenda 21, NOT humans if sea levels rise on the coast that means the rivers estuary will push water back effecting inland areas such as summerset...the water can not escape dredging rivers will not solve this problem but but but! we are told its the worst rain since 250 years ago. we are not being told the flooding in this instance is caused by the sea as i said, the rivers authority successfully managed the rivers before they were removed. because it was a national authority responsible for a national duty. a duty they performed too successfully. hence the ENVIRONMENT agency took over and saw to it that this successful, proven operation was no more this cannot be overlooked and disregarded Well I remember seeing countryfile a few years ago when they were talking about restoring some of the levels to their natural condition and using the sporadic flooding of farmland to protect surrounding towns. We have just had crazy amounts of rain recently, probably nothing could cope with that. rainfall totals here Thread: BBC report a developing tidal flood situation -- From the end of my street ! (Page 3) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54187780 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.cru.uea.ac.uk] if it has stuck or stopped no one can live in that area. |
Swim User ID: 54195888 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im not contradicting myself inasmuch as its not the weather per se we need to be wary of - its the fuckers controlling the environment. had they dredged the rivers then even though this is pretty unusual rainfall, things would still not have been any where near as bad as they are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54258597 dredging the river would not stop rising sea levels for example, the Thames barrier is being raised most days the reason for that is rising sea level.....I know the media keep babbling on about dredging rivers but that would not solve the problems There is no rising sea level issue yet. There may be by the end of this century. This is why they are closing the barrier Thread: BBC report a developing tidal flood situation -- From the end of my street ! (Page 3) yes there is ,just because the media ignore it it still matters,the reason the Thames barrier is being raised every day(a sinister fact) is because the sea levels around the coast of the UK have risen.... Rubbish, go read my post about the tidal bulge here in Kingston to see why the barrier is being raised. Look at the chart and the pictures of the local flooding, that is why. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 17662707 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, doomsayers explain this Sea Water stays at the same level all over the world. This means any rise in sea level will be measured exactly same all around europe. Many parts of europe are on the same elevation as uk and many are in fact lower and some are lower than sea level. If sea levels are rising and uk is getting flooded because of this. Can you explain why other nations who are at same elevation as uk or even lower are not having the same problems? See what I mean? Doom is because of mismanagement and lack of protection. Other nations don't have this problem because they have anticipated and well protected themselves. So where is the doom for them? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54351531 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Thames barrier was, I always thought, only ever intended to be used rarely, in extremis. At the moment it is being closed on every high tide but with no let up in the weather how long before it has to be closed permanently to save central London? Those who are saying this weather is just normal are deluded. We may have had more extreme isolated incidents of flooding in the past, but the widespread and ever widening extent of the present floods is unprecedented and we must now surely be approaching a state of emergency. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54258597 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | im not contradicting myself inasmuch as its not the weather per se we need to be wary of - its the fuckers controlling the environment. had they dredged the rivers then even though this is pretty unusual rainfall, things would still not have been any where near as bad as they are Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54258597 dredging the river would not stop rising sea levels for example, the Thames barrier is being raised most days the reason for that is rising sea level.....I know the media keep babbling on about dredging rivers but that would not solve the problems its the EA banging on about dredging 'not being effective' as for rising sea level. what can we personally do? arent the ice caps in pretty good shape? didnt a climate 'scientist' just get trapped in that very ice? have glaciers not always moved inexorably to the sea? because that part of the water cycle of the planet? perhaps i am mistaken. hmmm tired of repeating myself. boring now climate on earth is controlled by that great big fucking nuclear power station above us, and not one of these AGW squawkers EVER mention taking SERIOUS steps against the likes of china to SAVE THE PLANET FROM DOOM its about control |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54187780 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, doomsayers explain this Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17662707 Sea Water stays at the same level all over the world. This means any rise in sea level will be measured exactly same all around europe. Many parts of europe are on the same elevation as uk and many are in fact lower and some are lower than sea level. If sea levels are rising and uk is getting flooded because of this. Can you explain why other nations who are at same elevation as uk or even lower are not having the same problems? See what I mean? Doom is because of mismanagement and lack of protection. Other nations don't have this problem because they have anticipated and well protected themselves. So where is the doom for them? They are not the same even 1 foot rise would be huge some have been calling it more like a 3 feet rise has already happened.and there is the huge sea water bulge. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1496863 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rubbish, go read my post about the tidal bulge here in Kingston to see why the barrier is being raised. Look at the chart and the pictures of the local flooding, that is why. Quoting: Swim 54195888 The Thames is having two tides...one forcing water up the river and another tide forcing water down the river...the media are not explaning this to people..the engineers working the barreir are sh1tting themselves The water can ONLY be forced up the river by rising sea levels |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54258597 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1496863 dredging the river would not stop rising sea levels for example, the Thames barrier is being raised most days the reason for that is rising sea level.....I know the media keep babbling on about dredging rivers but that would not solve the problems There is no rising sea level issue yet. There may be by the end of this century. This is why they are closing the barrier Thread: BBC report a developing tidal flood situation -- From the end of my street ! (Page 3) yes there is ,just because the media ignore it it still matters,the reason the Thames barrier is being raised every day(a sinister fact) is because the sea levels around the coast of the UK have risen.... Rubbish, go read my post about the tidal bulge here in Kingston to see why the barrier is being raised. Look at the chart and the pictures of the local flooding, that is why. there have been some preposterious postings on this thread, and they have been countered and then promptly ignored 'holland dredging makes sea levels rise on the uk coast' im out. its drizzling and grey in london, not heavy like they said it would be. and its not windy either. we were supposed to be getting completely lashed by now |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54187780 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, doomsayers explain this Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17662707 Sea Water stays at the same level all over the world. This means any rise in sea level will be measured exactly same all around europe. Many parts of europe are on the same elevation as uk and many are in fact lower and some are lower than sea level. If sea levels are rising and uk is getting flooded because of this. Can you explain why other nations who are at same elevation as uk or even lower are not having the same problems? See what I mean? Doom is because of mismanagement and lack of protection. Other nations don't have this problem because they have anticipated and well protected themselves. So where is the doom for them? They are not the same even 1 foot rise would be huge some have been calling it more like a 3 feet rise has already happened.and there is the huge sea water bulge. [link to www.lhup.edu] [link to www.bbc.co.uk] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54187780 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rubbish, go read my post about the tidal bulge here in Kingston to see why the barrier is being raised. Look at the chart and the pictures of the local flooding, that is why. Quoting: Swim 54195888 The Thames is having two tides...one forcing water up the river and another tide forcing water down the river...the media are not explaning this to people..the engineers working the barreir are sh1tting themselves The water can ONLY be forced up the river by rising sea levels IF the open the barrier at high tide then lomdon is uder water |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 17662707 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Thames barrier was, I always thought, only ever intended to be used rarely, in extremis. At the moment it is being closed on every high tide but with no let up in the weather how long before it has to be closed permanently to save central London? Those who are saying this weather is just normal are deluded. We may have had more extreme isolated incidents of flooding in the past, but the widespread and ever widening extent of the present floods is unprecedented and we must now surely be approaching a state of emergency. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54351531 No one is saying the weather is just normal. No one But we are saying that all this is part of natural cycle of earth and if well protected it does not have to be considered as doom. Surely, anyone can see this logic. Doom only happens if you let it. I'll give you an example. In the last 30 years in my area of uk, level of house break ins have increased. We got broken in to 3 times. It was so depressing that we considered it doom. We sat there in sorrow and depressed about the changing world. What where we to do? Move? To where? Clearly the whole world was going crazy. If not crimes, then it was wars or financial meltdowns etc. Suddenly the answer was simple. Get an alam. Protect the windows with extra locks and a few other good provisions. And today's result? No more break ins. Even though house break ins in our area has increased. |
Swim User ID: 54195888 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rubbish, go read my post about the tidal bulge here in Kingston to see why the barrier is being raised. Look at the chart and the pictures of the local flooding, that is why. Quoting: Swim 54195888 The Thames is having two tides...one forcing water up the river and another tide forcing water down the river...the media are not explaning this to people..the engineers working the barreir are sh1tting themselves The water can ONLY be forced up the river by rising sea levels We get two high tides a day. I guess you have never been to London. Twice a day the river reverses direction and flows upstream from Greenwich lifting the river level at high tide. Go read my posts to understand why the barrier is being shut at the moment, something is different about the barrier operation now, but it has nothing to do with rising sea levels or changes to the tide. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1496863 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rubbish, go read my post about the tidal bulge here in Kingston to see why the barrier is being raised. Look at the chart and the pictures of the local flooding, that is why. Quoting: Swim 54195888 The Thames is having two tides...one forcing water up the river and another tide forcing water down the river...the media are not explaning this to people..the engineers working the barreir are sh1tting themselves The water can ONLY be forced up the river by rising sea levels We get two high tides a day. I guess you have never been to London. Twice a day the river reverses direction and flows upstream from Greenwich lifting the river level at high tide. Go read my posts to understand why the barrier is being shut at the moment, something is different about the barrier operation now, but it has nothing to do with rising sea levels or changes to the tide. the barrier is being raised to protect London from flooding (a simple fact) The barrier is being raised because the sea levels are threatening to flood london and stop a surge up the river,,ffs cant you understand basic common sense ????? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54350355 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no doom people. A few unfortunate floods affecting some people. It's like 2% of the UK. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3004797 The rest of the country is clear skies. Don't believe the hype. It happens every year. Sometimes worse than the last sometimes better. Anyone remember Llandudno? That wasn't the end of the world was it? January took the record for the most rainfall in one month and UK records date back 250 YEARS (does this seem normal to you ???) do you think its going to stay like this forever? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1496863 United Kingdom 02/14/2014 07:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no doom people. A few unfortunate floods affecting some people. It's like 2% of the UK. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3004797 The rest of the country is clear skies. Don't believe the hype. It happens every year. Sometimes worse than the last sometimes better. Anyone remember Llandudno? That wasn't the end of the world was it? January took the record for the most rainfall in one month and UK records date back 250 YEARS (does this seem normal to you ???) do you think its going to stay like this forever? of course not but the way things are going a big change is going to happen,big,big changes |