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Native Americans.

 
Tradewinds
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02/16/2014 11:44 PM
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Native Americans.
The Native Americans, like any other Aboriginals, did not have true successive generations.

One generation was the exact same as the next, same exact beliefs, the same exact needs, the same exact living conditions, the same exact activities, the same exact technologies for as long as they existed.

Like Animals, because they were Animals, not a sovereign nation, and not truly a Person.

(human does not exactly mean person)

To be a person, you have to be able to separate yourself from your parents, and have your own wants, have your own beliefs, and be able to innovate.

This is something that Native Americans have never done until they were conquered and settled by PEOPLE.

Aboriginals in the days of their free roam are Humans, not persons.


To be a Person, this is what is required.

1. Your own personality
2. Your own path in life
3. Your own choices being made
4. Your own contributions through Innovation, and Thinking.
5. A Recorded Ancestry

There are no standardizations for what creates a nation, but there are general rules.

You need a population under one Government
Your population needs to recognize themselves as a Nation
You need to have laws
You need a contract that binds all people in your nation

The Native Americans had not a single one of these.
:)





And before you start going "raaaayyysssiisssttt" like fuckin' school girl sissy...

Where is your proof that any of this is at all wrong ?


Where is your proof that Native Americans DID innovate progressively before European settlement ?

And don't tell me about how they added an extra piece of string to their bow and arrow.


Where is your proof that Native Americans broke off from their parents and became their own individual and made their own choices and paths in life before European settlement ?

Where is your proof that that Native Americans had names that were not Nicknames and slurs like "Crazy Horse" and shit like that, before European settlement ?

Where is your proof that Native Americans had an ancestry, A path throughout the generations, a family line before European settlement.

Where is your proof that the Native American tribes were united, and had a government before European settlement?

Where is your proof that the Native Americans ever had a single law written, before European settlement.


This makes a person, a nation and civilization.


So I don't give a FUCK, about the Native Americans.
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02/16/2014 11:57 PM
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Re: Native Americans.
Dude. You're fucked up.
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02/16/2014 11:59 PM
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Europeans were primitives the Black Moors came from Africa and laid the foundation of what later became known as Europe.

So you cannot really talk about the Natives in "America".
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02/17/2014 12:00 AM
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Re: Native Americans.
yawn

Middens.

NEXT!
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Re: Native Americans.
The only part of your rant that you seam to have left out is explaining that those are the reasons you keep a red savages scalp in your upper desk drawer to remind you of that very fact.
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02/17/2014 12:16 AM
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Re: Native Americans.
"You need a population under one Government"

propoganda
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02/17/2014 12:20 AM
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Re: Native Americans.
Meh
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So according to OP's messed up views, every adopted person is not a person. Simply because they don't know who their ancestors are.

another dokittens
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02/17/2014 12:25 AM
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Re: Native Americans.
Who made those rules?
Look where your progress has gotten us fool.
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Tee pee long house totem poles baskets medicine canoes tomahawk peace-um-pipe trailer or travwah ...
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Re: Native Americans.
Chickasaw Nation,
2 $ Billion Dollars in Assets

I cant believe Im responding to this DA
but I think he is probably from Rochester NY.

So fy read your history. We barbequed about 40 of
you frenchies, impaled from bottom to top and cooked
till very well done. We left 4 alive, sent them home with a story to tell. Dont come back.

Meaning was not to prove we were savages, it was dont come back.

And we even have a beautiful painting of this event. Colors and everything.

Oh, We dont have ObamaCare either.
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You're a real big time loser, OP.
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02/17/2014 12:34 AM
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put down the crack pipe bud..just put it down...
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Re: Native Americans.
One generation was the exact same as the next, same exact beliefs, the same exact needs, the same exact living conditions, the same exact activities, the same exact technologies for as long as they existed.
 Quoting: Tradewinds 11334118


And what's so different about you from your parents? Do you believe that a cell phone or the Internet really truly changes you as a human? Do you believe that you are looking for something people 1000 years ago weren't looking for?


To be a person, you have to be able to separate yourself from your parents, and have your own wants, have your own beliefs, and be able to innovate.


Extremely vague comment that you have no proof of and doesn't even stand up to a practical logic test.


To be a Person, this is what is required.

1. Your own personality
2. Your own path in life
3. Your own choices being made
4. Your own contributions through Innovation, and Thinking.
5. A Recorded Ancestry


Again this stuff is almost included in basic human conscience. All humans have this capability, and practice it.


There are no standardizations for what creates a nation, but there are general rules.

You need a population under one Government
Your population needs to recognize themselves as a Nation
You need to have laws
You need a contract that binds all people in your nation

The Native Americans had not a single one of these.
:)


The North American natives very much had recognized nations that often went to war with each other. They had governments, generally in the form of what Europeans would call a monarchy. All large scale human societies have laws. Basic issues like theft, murder, and adultery are always addressed. Also how would classify most of European nations during the 1400-1600's based off these rules. After the fall of the Roman Empire, most of Europe was a complete cluster of a mess.


Where is your proof that Native Americans DID innovate progressively before European settlement ?

And don't tell me about how they added an extra piece of string to their bow and arrow.


Where is your proof that Native Americans broke off from their parents and became their own individual and made their own choices and paths in life before European settlement ?

Now are you just picking North American Indians specifically or are you not aware of the incredibly smart Native Americans that inhabited areas of Mexico and below? Races like the Mayans, Incas, etc. they were incredibly advanced for have no contact from the "superior" race. How do we know that North American natives were not simply a broken off sect of the more advanced middle American natives? There are still nomad societies in Europe today.


Where is your proof that that Native Americans had names that were not Nicknames and slurs like "Crazy Horse" and shit like that, before European settlement ?


Again you are not thinking about the big picture here. What do European names mean?

"The name Robert is a German baby name. In German the meaning of the name Robert is: Famed, bright; shining. An all-time favorite boys' name since the Middle Ages."



Where is your proof that Native Americans had an ancestry, A path throughout the generations, a family line before European settlement.


This does not make sense. Where would they have come from otherwise?



Where is your proof that the Native Americans ever had a single law written, before European settlement.


Mayan writing goes back to a several hundred years before Christ. Are you implying that none of the other cultures had written language?


It sounds like you really do not know much about history, both of America or of Europe. Advances in society moved at glacial speed until around the 1500's. Only then did it start picking up. And it took until about the 1800's to get the kind of speed we are seeing today.

If you would like to learn about European history you might try listening to any of the many topics found in Dan Carlin's Hardcore History available as podcasts. If you would like to see how the Indians have been systematically wiped out and erased you might try the American Experience multi-part series We Shall Remain. It's available for free from many outlets.

You also might ask yourself what exactly have the Europeans gotten out of their advancement. How much better is their life and at what costs have they paid. Europeans have a long line of breaking the record for loss of human life in battles. For what?
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Re: Native Americans.
Um....


What the hell did you smoke today?
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Re: Native Americans.
That is sick, I think he must believe history after they decided to give The United States Of America a destiny, which was not they before.

They lied to get their way and broke every rule in the book. They murdered to get their way, and stole to get their way, they also committed fornication, to get their way. Yes, they broke every rule in the Book and that Book with those rules are what they will be judged by.

Satan can convince people of almost anything, destiny was never part of this country, unless the men who started it was in with Satan anyway.





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