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°Lucy° User ID: 55011082 Germany 03/06/2014 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Breaking News ‏@breakingnewssy 47s Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54668952 #Breaking_News: #Tymoshenko : the scheduled referendum in #Crimea is illegal because it is being under gunpoint [link to DON'T_USE-THIS] Yeah like they will gunpoint every voter without being noticed. This is ridiculous. That bitch needs to STFU already. It's obvious who she works for. Seen her on TV the other day and didn't thought much of her. The way she talked and the wording .... Last Edited by °Lucy° on 03/06/2014 06:19 AM "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 48448315 United States 03/06/2014 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Breaking News ‏@breakingnewssy 47s Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54668952 #Breaking_News: #Tymoshenko : the scheduled referendum in #Crimea is illegal because it is being under gunpoint [link to DON'T_USE-THIS] Did she mean the gunpoints from Kyiev? |
°Lucy° User ID: 55011082 Germany 03/06/2014 06:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 11:10: Quoting: Nordic Wolf BBC Moscow correspondent Daniel Sandford tweets: "The Crimean parliament has voted to join Russia and hold a referendum on whether to join. Russian TV says Crimea has joined. Confusing." Be even more confusing to the people in Brussels today "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12169011 Australia 03/06/2014 06:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 11:16: Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Vasily Nebenzya tells the BBC - before the news about the referendum move in the Crimean parliament - that: Ukrainian membership in Nato is a "red line" for Moscow "I do not imagine Ukraine in Nato - neither in immediate future nor in the future at all, [the] best option is to stay neutral." West should bear some responsibility for what is happening in Ukraine Russia wants "negotiations and political dialogue" to resolve the crisis Moscow still refuses to admit that armed men in Crimea are under Russia's control |
R.P. McMurphy User ID: 17078589 United States 03/06/2014 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Breaking News ‏@breakingnewssy 3m Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54668952 #Breaking_News: U.S. Defense Secretary: we are studying procedure with the allies to support #Ukraine [link to DON'T_USE-THIS] In other words... "we once again got our asses handed to us by that damn Russia guy, and we need to bow out as gracefully as we possibly can". Oh dear... just misread "allies" completely... LOL Morning, Lucy! "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
HL Shancken User ID: 43079490 United States 03/06/2014 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Published: 04/23/2001 at 1:00 AM JR Nyquist Worldnet Daily Read more at [link to www.wnd.com] ...Having spent two days last week at the George Bush Center in Texas in the company of foreign policy wizards, I must report that they are persuasive and plausible creatures. Whether in or out of government, they seem to know what is what and who is whom. Take the bright young analyst I met from a famous intelligence website. A few minutes with him and my brain felt like a scrambled egg. He was an Asia expert, as all wizards specialize in one thing or another. Who better to ask about the growing power of China? Had he read Bill Gertz’s book on the China threat? Did he follow Gertz’s articles in the Washington Times? “You have to be aware of Gertz’s agenda,” he said. “You know who owns the Washington Times.” (Wink, wink, hint, hint.) “Does that mean the information is untrustworthy?” I asked. “No, not at all,” he replied. “It’s just part of an agenda.” “But aren’t China and Russia’s war preparations significant?” I probed. “No,” he shot back. “They’re outgunned massively.” Using my fingers and toes, not being such a wizard myself, I made a rough calculation of firepower. I recalled that China has over 200 combat divisions, North Korea has over 60, Russia has dozens of divisions at various strength levels. The United States has about 13 divisions — Army and Marine Corps. Then I considered the nuclear firepower equation. The Russians have 6,000 known strategic nuclear weapons and 20,000 tactical nukes. How could this wizard of foreign policy, this master of Asian affairs, dismiss the massive firepower and manpower of the Russia-China “partnership”? “You want to talk firepower,” I suggested. “Look at Russia and China’s nuclear forces.” “Those aren’t usable,” he said. “Nobody will ever start a nuclear war.” Noting recent Norwegian press reports that the Russians had at least two nuclear weapons on the attack submarine Kursk, which sank on account of a tragic accident last August, I posed the following question: “If nuclear weapons are unusable then why have the Russians bothered to put unusable weapons on their attack submarines, in violation of promises; and why have they secretly shipped such weapons into the Kaliningrad enclave?” “I cannot believe that we don’t have nuclear weapons on our attack submarines as well,” he said. “And besides, the nukes in Kaliningrad were probably always there?” “But doesn’t it bother you that the Russians are lying to us about their nuclear deployments?” I wondered. “No,” he said without pause. “We lie and cheat just the same.” “Do you have any hard evidence that we have secret nuclear stockpiles along the Baltic Sea, or keep nukes on our attack submarines?” I asked. “No,” he admitted. According to our foreign-policy wizards, facts are meaningless. Such is the wisdom and honesty of a foreign-policy wizard — someone paid to think in circles within circles. The expressionless face, the intellectual flatland within, was almost terrifying; so I couldn’t resist asking my favorite question: “Don’t you think, in the long run, that nuclear war is likely?” “Highly unlikely,” he pronounced. “Only a few dozen nukes would destroy the world.” “But surely you don’t believe that!” “Well, of course it wouldn’t destroy the world,” he admitted. “But it would be catastrophic and nobody would win.” The wizard didn’t know much history. He didn’t know that every war is catastrophic, and many wars are fought in which nobody wins; and yet, the wars have nonetheless been fought. “States base themselves on rational decision-making,” he said with a blank expression. Oh really? Had he not heard that men are emotional creatures, motivated by desires and dislikes? Does he not know that reason is often the puppet of love and hate, infatuation and misconception? The wizard’s method was now coming into focus. To make a series of nonsense statements was only the first step. The second step was the hard part, in which the wizard would draw circles within circles to build up an incoherent system of impenetrable stuff, strongly fortified against reason and common sense. I could not resist testing the wizard’s skill. His fortress was one I had assaulted before. At its foundation was the notion that nobody would contemplate fighting a nuclear war because nobody could win such a war. In my view, only a poverty-stricken imagination could fail to see that the lowliest suicide bomber sees his own detonation as a victory. “If nobody could win a nuclear war, then why is China so hot to build up a large and advanced nuclear force? Why go to the trouble?” I asked. “To have a stronger bargaining position,” he immediately replied. “But if nobody will ever use such weapons, as you just stated, and a few dozen bursts will ruin everyone’s life, why would your bargaining chip have to consist of several hundred nuclear bombs as opposed to a dozen?” “Well,” he admitted, “you can’t be absolutely sure that somebody won’t use them.” Read more at [link to www.wnd.com] Above is less than 50% of original article. . Last Edited by HL Shancken on 03/06/2014 06:22 AM A revolution worth joining. Holistic medicine's finest hour. |
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Nordic Wolf User ID: 55232373 Sweden 03/06/2014 06:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 11:16: Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Vasily Nebenzya tells the BBC - before the news about the referendum move in the Crimean parliament - that: Ukrainian membership in Nato is a "red line" for Moscow "I do not imagine Ukraine in Nato - neither in immediate future nor in the future at all, [the] best option is to stay neutral." West should bear some responsibility for what is happening in Ukraine Russia wants "negotiations and political dialogue" to resolve the crisis Moscow still refuses to admit that armed men in Crimea are under Russia's contro Last Edited by Nordic Wolf on 03/06/2014 06:23 AM Loosing an illusion makes you wiser than finding a truth. ~Ludwig Börne Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide Beware of false knowledge; it is more dangerous than ignorance. ~George Bernard Shaw |
R.P. McMurphy User ID: 17078589 United States 03/06/2014 06:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Breaking News ‏@breakingnewssy 47s Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54668952 #Breaking_News: #Tymoshenko : the scheduled referendum in #Crimea is illegal because it is being under gunpoint [link to DON'T_USE-THIS] Wow! She's like a Ukrainian nancy pelosi! Dramacrats. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
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°Lucy° User ID: 55011082 Germany 03/06/2014 06:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Breaking News ‏@breakingnewssy 3m Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54668952 #Breaking_News: U.S. Defense Secretary: we are studying procedure with the allies to support #Ukraine [link to DON'T_USE-THIS] In other words... "we once again got our asses handed to us by that damn Russia guy, and we need to bow out as gracefully as we possibly can". Oh dear... just misread "allies" completely... LOL Morning, Lucy! Good Morning "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 53887407 Belgium 03/06/2014 06:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 11:16: Quoting: Nordic Wolf Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Vasily Nebenzya tells the BBC - before the news about the referendum move in the Crimean parliament - that: Ukrainian membership in Nato is a "red line" for Moscow "I do not imagine Ukraine in Nato - neither in immediate future nor in the future at all, [the] best option is to stay neutral." West should bear some responsibility for what is happening in Ukraine Russia wants "negotiations and political dialogue" to resolve the crisis Moscow still refuses to admit that armed men in Crimea are under Russia's contro[/b] Perhaps they're not. And perhaps Maidan protesters are not under West's control! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41703061 United Kingdom 03/06/2014 06:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 WTK is this, a thread with over 1033 pages and a title that changes daily !!! How the fuck could anyone search for the original thread...or other titles within it. What a load of crap.....my opinion of course. |
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°Lucy° User ID: 55011082 Germany 03/06/2014 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin is teaching obama a lot of things. The question is is obama learning. My guess would be no, being he's such a narcissist. It seems Putin is the only one with a plan. All others are just jumping circles "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 54104754 United States 03/06/2014 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Obama just got one stuck his corn hole! Now let's see what that phony criminal asshole does. Nobel Peace Prize winner?? LOL! How could Norway be that damn dumb? I wonder if they think about that? |
R.P. McMurphy User ID: 17078589 United States 03/06/2014 06:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 WTK is this, a thread with over 1033 pages and a title that changes daily !!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41703061 How the fuck could anyone search for the original thread...or other titles within it. What a load of crap.....my opinion of course. If you're having a hard time keeping up, there's a thread about somebody's balls smelling like stake sauce down towards the bottom of the home page... "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
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R.P. McMurphy User ID: 17078589 United States 03/06/2014 06:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Putin is teaching obama a lot of things. The question is is obama learning. My guess would be no, being he's such a narcissist. It seems Putin is the only one with a plan. All others are just jumping circles It's really obvious obama is a reactionary. Sooner or later that is going to land him in big trouble. I just hope it's after he leaves office.... if that ever happens. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
°Lucy° User ID: 55011082 Germany 03/06/2014 06:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Obama just got one stuck his corn hole! Now let's see what that phony criminal asshole does. Nobel Peace Prize winner?? LOL! How could Norway be that damn dumb? I wonder if they think about that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54104754 weren't they all influenced by that spiral that time? "He who people call a fool is not a fool, but he who takes flattery for Truth, is." |
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R.P. McMurphy User ID: 17078589 United States 03/06/2014 06:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Obama just got one stuck his corn hole! Now let's see what that phony criminal asshole does. Nobel Peace Prize winner?? LOL! How could Norway be that damn dumb? I wonder if they think about that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54104754 weren't they all influenced by that spiral that time? obama just wants to mess shit up and kill people. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12169011 Australia 03/06/2014 06:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 Obama just got one stuck his corn hole! Now let's see what that phony criminal asshole does. Nobel Peace Prize winner?? LOL! How could Norway be that damn dumb? I wonder if they think about that? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54104754 weren't they all influenced by that spiral that time? I thought the prize was based in Sweden? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53439119 United Kingdom 03/06/2014 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 When the protests were being organised in Kiev, Shouldn't the west have thought. " wait, this is going a bit too easy"? Didn't alarm bells ring that something is not right? |
~WaaWaa~ User ID: 54863556 United Kingdom 03/06/2014 06:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 11:10: Quoting: Nordic Wolf BBC Moscow correspondent Daniel Sandford tweets: "The Crimean parliament has voted to join Russia and hold a referendum on whether to join. Russian TV says Crimea has joined. Confusing." lol maybe they've joined and are only having a referendum to confirm it. in other words the referendum is just to appease... they already joined... confirm not quiet the word more like seal legally make me lol as mostly what they have all been doing is illegal lol |
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~WaaWaa~ User ID: 54863556 United Kingdom 03/06/2014 06:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I ask you guys Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53439119 When the protests were being organised in Kiev, Shouldn't the west have thought. " wait, this is going a bit too easy"? Didn't alarm bells ring that something is not right? dont think the people who were shot would have thought it was that easy but i see what you mean |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12169011 Australia 03/06/2014 06:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387 I ask you guys Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53439119 When the protests were being organised in Kiev, Shouldn't the west have thought. " wait, this is going a bit too easy"? Didn't alarm bells ring that something is not right? Yeah it's crazy. Anyone who knew Russia well knew they wouldn't tolerate this. And yet the West just kept recklessly supporting them. They're either really stupid or they wanted conflict. |