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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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British citizens view Russia more favorably than the European Union - poll [link to on.rt.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


And I view Russia more favorably than the USA. No Russian ever did anything to me.
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Might have been a different story if you actually lived in Russia?
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Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 13 min
#BREAKING Visa, MasterCard immediately resume payment services in Russia to all clients.

- Nobody wants to get charged in racism, right?


 Quoting: Luisport


what are guilty the Russian citizens for their government's policy? What if tomorrow it changes, will they be more or less guilty for what happens or what doesn't happen. We all know there isn't citizens' control in Russia over the government deeds.
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Help me understand this. The US can send weapons to Ukraine, and it is somehow separate from them being in NATO? Couldn't Russia use this same rationale?
 Quoting: steelseries


Well the russians can send weapons, much like they did in Syria (I guess the yanks did so as well). However sending troops is a different story alltogether.
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Ok, thanks. It is ok to send money and weapons, just not troops. That makes sense.
 Quoting: steelseries


In case of Syria, there's a difference to have a perfectly legal by international law standards weapons deal with any elected Government - and (US&allies) send weapons to "rebels" who kill indiscriminately and frame the Assad Regime. Lets keep it real for a second because those are the facts.

Sending weapons to Ukraine now? What, the fascist national guard that was formed are the new "freedom fighters"? How annoying that the "brothers" just won't shoot at each other. Strange enough, so far they have nobody to fight against - as the Russians are still hiding behind bushes and I guess inside Russia. putin
Twitter and statements from these people coming out now are just getting more ridiculous by the hour.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55977982


Ok, I see where you are going here. I was asking about the stated intentions to send weapons. You are discussing what they do that they don't state. I realize how funny it is that the US requests to send weapons to Ukraine and yet at the same time funds rebels in Syria under the table. Not to mention arms distribution in Libya. (and elsewhere that we don't know about)
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Well well

Russian Defense Ministry denies rumors about concentration of troops on Ukrainian border
 Quoting: Limpan


let me guess.. local security forces...

lol
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

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Help me understand this. The US can send weapons to Ukraine, and it is somehow separate from them being in NATO? Couldn't Russia use this same rationale?
 Quoting: steelseries


Well the russians can send weapons, much like they did in Syria (I guess the yanks did so as well). However sending troops is a different story alltogether.
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


A reminder - they have been stopped to return their serviced helicopters and some weapons on that ship. Remember?

Also, Russia didn't supply Syrian army with the advanced S-300.

So, not the same side of the coin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55986315


No just armoured vehicles, drones, bombs and that sort of stuff. But you are right. There were no S-300´s as far as I know.
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf

[link to www.bbc.com]

But hey, who believes what BBC has to say anyway rolleyes

[link to rt.com]
Concern over alleged Russian supplies to Syria have been growing as the West is accusing Moscow of violating the European Union arms embargo against Damascus, imposed last May.

Bad bad Moscow
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German minister of Defence, von der Leyen has demanded an increase in #NATO presence at the #EU's Eastern borders. [link to spon.de] ”
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Nato Statement
Things are looking bad!

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NATO should have disbanded at the end of the Cold War. Since then, it has gone around the world starting conflicts to justify its useless existence.
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Well the russians can send weapons, much like they did in Syria (I guess the yanks did so as well). However sending troops is a different story alltogether.
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


A reminder - they have been stopped to return their serviced helicopters and some weapons on that ship. Remember?

Also, Russia didn't supply Syrian army with the advanced S-300.

So, not the same side of the coin.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55986315


No just armoured vehicles, drones, bombs and that sort of stuff. But you are right. There were no S-300´s as far as I know.
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf

[link to www.bbc.com]

But hey, who believes what BBC has to say anyway rolleyes

[link to rt.com]
Concern over alleged Russian supplies to Syria have been growing as the West is accusing Moscow of violating the European Union arms embargo against Damascus, imposed last May.

Bad bad Moscow
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55986315


And as I said in my original post "I guess the yanks did as well".. Should have said "west" instead..

So i´m not denying it.. :)
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RT ‏@RT_com · 5 min
British citizens view Russia more favorably than the European Union - poll [link to on.rt.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


And I view Russia more favorably than the USA. No Russian ever did anything to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34771976


I view Russia more favorably than the EU simply because Russia doesn't negatively impact our day to day lives in the way the EU does. The EU is a corrupt, overly bureaucratic, meddling, anti-democratic, stupid, arrogant, institution of time wasting bullshit.
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Concern over alleged Russian supplies to Syria have been growing as the West is accusing Moscow of violating the European Union arms embargo against Damascus, imposed last May.

Bad bad Moscow
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Didn't know Russia was part of the EU, LOL.
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RT ‏@RT_com · 5 min
British citizens view Russia more favorably than the European Union - poll [link to on.rt.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


And I view Russia more favorably than the USA. No Russian ever did anything to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34771976


I view Russia more favorably than the EU simply because Russia doesn't negatively impact our day to day lives in the way the EU does. The EU is a corrupt, overly bureaucratic, meddling, anti-democratic, stupid, arrogant, institution of time wasting bullshit.
 Quoting: RBR


Sounds like the U.S. government ...
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Retweeted by Nathan J Hunt
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German minister of Defence, von der Leyen has demanded an increase in #NATO presence at the #EU's Eastern borders. [link to spon.de] ”
 Quoting: The Nihilist


Here we go. They are mixing up EU borders and Nato borders. Blending them.
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Visa, Mastercard resume services with 2 Russian banks blocked after US sanctions [link to on.rt.com]

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Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 13 min
#BREAKING Visa, MasterCard immediately resume payment services in Russia to all clients.

- Nobody wants to get charged in racism, right?


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More like hotels hosting Russian tourists would like to get paid, methinks.
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Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 13 min
#BREAKING Visa, MasterCard immediately resume payment services in Russia to all clients.

- Nobody wants to get charged in racism, right?


 Quoting: Luisport


More like hotels hosting Russian tourists would like to get paid, methinks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34771976


Or more like MC and Visa would like to get paid for the hotel bills that they processed.

If I couldn't use my cc anymore, I sure wouldn't pay them.
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Well the russians can send weapons, much like they did in Syria (I guess the yanks did so as well). However sending troops is a different story alltogether.
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Ok, thanks. It is ok to send money and weapons, just not troops. That makes sense.
 Quoting: steelseries


Never said it made any sense.. :)
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Hahaha I meant makes sense in that is how it usually goes down doesn't it? Not much in the world these days makes sense to me.
 Quoting: steelseries

Maybe this will help..an intro to "Dirty Wars" doc.
You've got one side engaging in proxy and infiltration by armed punks..then you've got those responding to their culture crumbling beneath them using straight strategy.
There is a contrast there where these styles of war offense and defense DON'T ADD UP. Just apply this to everything else that is going on. Twitters are mostly laughable (were it not so sad).
In this case why Blackwater x300 are on the ground in Ukraine as a clear symptom what is happening there.
The entire equation is improper:


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RT ‏@RT_com · 5 min
British citizens view Russia more favorably than the European Union - poll [link to on.rt.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


And I view Russia more favorably than the USA. No Russian ever did anything to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34771976


Might have been a different story if you actually lived in Russia?
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Hmm ... FSB or DHS, which to choose? If I get on a plane at a Russian airport, will a blue-gloved thug put his hands in my underwear?
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British citizens view Russia more favorably than the European Union - poll [link to on.rt.com]
 Quoting: Luisport


And I view Russia more favorably than the USA. No Russian ever did anything to me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34771976


I view Russia more favorably than the EU simply because Russia doesn't negatively impact our day to day lives in the way the EU does. The EU is a corrupt, overly bureaucratic, meddling, anti-democratic, stupid, arrogant, institution of time wasting bullshit.
 Quoting: RBR


You mean MONEY wasting' more than time. They have plenty of time

Not to mention that every dickhead that have a sit in EU parliament take 7000euros each month, excluding daily bonuses, travel tickets etc.
While people and real workers have to walk on the streets asking for their rights!

angry
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Ok, thanks. It is ok to send money and weapons, just not troops. That makes sense.
 Quoting: steelseries


Never said it made any sense.. :)
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Hahaha I meant makes sense in that is how it usually goes down doesn't it? Not much in the world these days makes sense to me.
 Quoting: steelseries

Maybe this will help..an intro to "Dirty Wars" doc.
You've got one side engaging in proxy and infiltration by armed punks..then you've got those responding to their culture crumbling beneath them using straight strategy.
There is a contrast there where these styles of war offense and defense DON'T ADD UP. Just apply this to everything else that is going on. Twitters are mostly laughable (were it not so sad).
The entire equation is improper:

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That's on my netflix. Thanks, will watch it today.
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#Ukraine Foreign Minister Andrii #Deshchytsia likelihood of armed conflict btwn Russia/Ukraine "very high, growing"

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Well well

Russian Defense Ministry denies rumors about concentration of troops on Ukrainian border
 Quoting: Limpan


let me guess.. local security forces...

lol
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


Andthen
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Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it. ~Andre Gide

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Concern over alleged Russian supplies to Syria have been growing as the West is accusing Moscow of violating the European Union arms embargo against Damascus, imposed last May.

Bad bad Moscow
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55986315


Didn't know Russia was part of the EU, LOL.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34771976


Exactly cool2

Russia was trying hard to please all of these bastards all the time
But when they wanted more and came to close and started to poke the bear even harder the real red line was crossed!
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Ukrainian security has arrested armed special Russian group in city of Odessa. [link to www.sbu.gov.ua] …


Any more sources for this one? If true it would be a game changer.
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Ukrainian security has arrested armed special Russian group in city of Odessa. [link to www.sbu.gov.ua] …


Any more sources for this one? If true it would be a game changer.
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Something going on there..

No way did they arrest soldiers. Wondering if they're protestors?
Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me.

Or something
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Russian spetznaz in Ukraine followed US/NATO Academi and Israeli commandos. Tit for tat.

War is on if NATO crosses Ukraine's western border. Plans are on for a NATO exercise in western Ukraine in July. No signs of cancelling it yet. Ukraine in NATO guarantees war with Russia.
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Russian Market ‏@russian_market · 13 min
#BREAKING Visa, MasterCard immediately resume payment services in Russia to all clients.

- Nobody wants to get charged in racism, right?


 Quoting: Luisport


American diplomats getting mugged from having to carry cash. Sanctions hurt too much.
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Carl Bildt ‏@carlbildt 3 tim

Ukrainian security has arrested armed special Russian group in city of Odessa. [link to www.sbu.gov.ua] …


Any more sources for this one? If true it would be a game changer.
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


What you linked is a government source... btw al jazeera english reported this 1/2 hours ago
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Let me guess - carl , the same Carl bastard that 'helped' much in our Balkan wars and sccisoring Bosnia. That Carl? shitstream
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Ukraine’s Yatsenyuk cancels visit to The Hague to round up talks with IMF mission

World March 23, 20:15 UTC+4

KIEV, March 23, /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine’s interim acting prime minister Arseny Yatsenyuk has cancelled a trip to The Hague he was going to make Monday. Instead, he plans to round up talks with a mission of the International Monetary Fund currently visiting Ukraine, he said.

“I’m cancelling my trip to The Hague because I must hold talks with the IMF tomorrow so that we could formalize the program (of assistance),” he said.

March 24-25, he was expected to take part in a nuclear security summit in The Hague.

IMF mission rounds up its work in Ukraine March 25.
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Well well

Russian Defense Ministry denies rumors about concentration of troops on Ukrainian border
 Quoting: Limpan


let me guess.. local security forces...

lol
 Quoting: RelentlessDespot


Andthen
 Quoting: Nordic Wolf


Well, what if they are self defense forces. There's that chance *kof*.
hmm
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