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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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"If that is confirmed, I expect Gorbachev and other influential Russian politicians to simply call Putin to resign immediately, in the interests of the nation that are and should be above his personal career of unending leader. The current PM and first in the list of presidential successors Medvedev would do it much better. Although it could be a better choice of heir. Putin must go now. There is no more political room for him, unless he will repeat Joseph Stalin-2 nuclear."



whatcha smokin' boy???

theres no way putin will be gong anywhere anytime soon.

any stories relating to china and russia at odds is pure BS.

the media can lie all they want.

noone bleefs them anymore.
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The war drums start beating more intensely this week, whether on the battlegrounds or in the boardrooms, or in government offices around the world. Mercury enters Aries on Monday, April 7, so the wars begin with words and threats. On April 8, the Sun will move into opposition with Mars, highlighting the Martian energy of the planet ruling Aries. More threats, maybe even actions designed to provoke hostilities. It is all leading into Pluto turning retrograde on April 14, followed by the huge Mars-Uranus-Jupiter-Pluto grand square at 13 degrees of cardinal signs April 20-23, all hitting spot on with Vladimir Putin’s Sun in Libra, the USA’s Sun and Saturn square in Cancer-Libra, plus critical points in the charts of the Russia and China. It will take a lot of discipline to restrain basic urges to….get even with those who have threatened you. An example of this dynamic can be seen in the events of last week’s second Ft. Hood killings, which is one more example of people losing control, and taking it out fatally upon innocent people. Even ordinary citizens are reaching their frustration limits with the Pluto in Capricorn dynamic of government intrusion and harassment of their personal lives, as witnessed by this video gone viral at [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] [link to www.mmacycles.com]
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MOI readiness doesn't mean that Russia is going to invade Ukraine, it means that there may be widespread disturbances within the Russian Federation soon.
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that will be a total diplomatic failure of Putin's policy for the last 15 years. It remains he exits START 3 and the rest of treaties and turns back Russia to Stalin's level of diplomacy of brute force.
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Yes, Russia re-unified with Crimea without a single casualty (inflicted by either military)
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Most sources put it at 2 Ukrainian deaths.
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15:51 05.04.2014 Interfax-Ukraine
SBU exposes armed group plotting armed seizure of power in Luhansk region



Ukraine's Security Service (SBU) has detained in Luhansk region an armed sabotage group of 15 people who planned an armed seizure of power in the region.

As the results of a large-scale special operation, the SBU detained 15 active members of a sabotage ring, seized 300 machineguns, one anti-tank grenade launcher, five pistols, Molotov cocktails and a large amount of smooth-bore guns and cold steel weapons.

[link to en.interfax.com.ua]
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A document called "Foundations of the State Cultural Policy" has been under development since 2012. A special working group under Putin's chief of staff Sergei Ivanov will soon roll it out for a month of "public debate" before Putin gets to sign it. Quotes from the culture ministry's draft, presumably the basis for the final one, have leaked out.

"Russia must be viewed as a unique and original civilization that cannot be reduced to 'East' or 'West,'" reads the document, signed by Deputy Culture Minister Vladimir Aristarkhov. "A concise way of formulating this stand would be, 'Russia is not Europe,' and that is confirmed by the entire history of the country and the people."
Russia's non-European path should be marked by "the rejection of such principles as multiculturalism and tolerance," according to the draft. "No references to 'creative freedom' and 'national originality' can justify behavior considered unacceptable from the point of view of Russia's traditional value system." That, the document stresses, is not an infringement on basic freedoms but merely the withdrawal of government support from "projects imposing alien values on society."

The draft goes on to explain that certain forms of modern art and liberal Western values in general are unacceptable and harmful to society's moral health.

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LOL, the LGBT's will jump on this like flies to a s..t!
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15:51 05.04.2014 Interfax-Ukraine
SBU exposes armed group plotting armed seizure of power in Luhansk region



Ukraine's Security Service (SBU) has detained in Luhansk region an armed sabotage group of 15 people who planned an armed seizure of power in the region.

As the results of a large-scale special operation, the SBU detained 15 active members of a sabotage ring, seized 300 machineguns, one anti-tank grenade launcher, five pistols, Molotov cocktails and a large amount of smooth-bore guns and cold steel weapons.

[link to en.interfax.com.ua]
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Today, Svoboda holds a larger chunk of its nation's ministries (nearly a quarter, including the prized defense portfolio) than any other far-right party on the continent. Ukraine's deputy prime minister represents Svoboda (the smaller, even more extreme "Right Sector" coalition fills the deputy National Security Council chair), as does the prosecutor general and the deputy chair of parliament -- where the party is the fourth-largest. And Svoboda's fresh faces are scarcely different from the old: one of its freshmen members of parliament is the founder of the "Joseph Goebbels Political Research Centre" and has hailed the Holocaust as a "bright period" in human history.


Anybody expect this inquiry to be objective???

Yeah, Putin is new Hitler, right!!!
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15:51 05.04.2014 Interfax-Ukraine
SBU exposes armed group plotting armed seizure of power in Luhansk region



Ukraine's Security Service (SBU) has detained in Luhansk region an armed sabotage group of 15 people who planned an armed seizure of power in the region.

As the results of a large-scale special operation, the SBU detained 15 active members of a sabotage ring, seized 300 machineguns, one anti-tank grenade launcher, five pistols, Molotov cocktails and a large amount of smooth-bore guns and cold steel weapons.

[link to en.interfax.com.ua]
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Ukraine ready to buy Russian gas for USD 268 per 1,000 cm

Economy April 05, 23:07 UTC+4

KIEV, April 05, 21:49 /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine is ready to buy Russian natural gas at a price of 268 U.S. dollars per 1,000 cubic metres, parliament-appointed Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk said on Saturday, April 5.

He said Ukraine “does not accept” Russia’s decision to raise the price of gas from April 1 and regards it as “political pressure”.

“Political pressure will not pass. We do not accept the price of 500 U.S. dollars. Ukraine is ready to continue buying natural gas at the price that was in effect since the beginning of the year - 268 U.S. dollars. This is an acceptable and balanced price,” Yatsenyuk said.

He reiterated Kiev’s readiness to “make all payments for the previous gas supplies” and was waiting for Russia’s reply.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
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that will be a total diplomatic failure of Putin's policy for the last 15 years. It remains he exits START 3 and the rest of treaties and turns back Russia to Stalin's level of diplomacy of brute force.
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Yes, Russia re-unified with Crimea without a single casualty (inflicted by either military)
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Most sources put it at 2 Ukrainian deaths.
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What sources? (Not speaking about the civilian sniper.)
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that will be a total diplomatic failure of Putin's policy for the last 15 years. It remains he exits START 3 and the rest of treaties and turns back Russia to Stalin's level of diplomacy of brute force.
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Yes, Russia re-unified with Crimea without a single casualty (inflicted by either military)
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Most sources put it at 2 Ukrainian deaths.
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What sources? (Not speaking about the civilian sniper.)
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I think at least one died after problems on a military base, after Crimea voted to join the RF.
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that will be a total diplomatic failure of Putin's policy for the last 15 years. It remains he exits START 3 and the rest of treaties and turns back Russia to Stalin's level of diplomacy of brute force.
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Yes, Russia re-unified with Crimea without a single casualty (inflicted by either military)
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


Most sources put it at 2 Ukrainian deaths.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux

What sources? (Not speaking about the civilian sniper.)
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[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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Ukraine ready to buy Russian gas for USD 268 per 1,000 cm

Economy April 05, 23:07 UTC+4

KIEV, April 05, 21:49 /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine is ready to buy Russian natural gas at a price of 268 U.S. dollars per 1,000 cubic metres, parliament-appointed Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk said on Saturday, April 5.

He said Ukraine “does not accept” Russia’s decision to raise the price of gas from April 1 and regards it as “political pressure”.

“Political pressure will not pass. We do not accept the price of 500 U.S. dollars. Ukraine is ready to continue buying natural gas at the price that was in effect since the beginning of the year - 268 U.S. dollars. This is an acceptable and balanced price,” Yatsenyuk said.

He reiterated Kiev’s readiness to “make all payments for the previous gas supplies” and was waiting for Russia’s reply.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
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In a way it is a bit ironic. Yakunovych concluded the EU Association Agreement and IMF loan would be awful for Ukraine (its people and its economy) and was trying to negotiate with both EU and Russia; EU steadfastly refused to this arrangement, declaring "it's EU exclusively or the highway", refusing to negotiate in tripartite talks and refusing to re-consider its "deal package". Yakunovych took the highway and took a (quite good for Ukraine) deal with Russia, which was premised on a number of conditions, which Ukraine accepted.

US/EU almost immediately began agitating for Yanukovych's ouster.
After the coup, the new government, appointed by the US, decided to move hard toward EU and flip off Russia. The (unelected) government has accepted all of the IMF's demands and signed the political portion of the EU Association Agreement, and spurned Russia.

But now they want only to blame Russia for their problems. EU had nothing to do with it.

It's really comical. I wonder how many Ukrainians are falling for it .... Probably many of the ones who have been distracted by the propaganda of Russian troops massed for invasion .... People who are full of hate and fear tend not to think rationally or objectively.
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Ukraine ready to buy Russian gas for USD 268 per 1,000 cm

Economy April 05, 23:07 UTC+4

KIEV, April 05, 21:49 /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine is ready to buy Russian natural gas at a price of 268 U.S. dollars per 1,000 cubic metres, parliament-appointed Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk said on Saturday, April 5.

He said Ukraine “does not accept” Russia’s decision to raise the price of gas from April 1 and regards it as “political pressure”.

“Political pressure will not pass. We do not accept the price of 500 U.S. dollars. Ukraine is ready to continue buying natural gas at the price that was in effect since the beginning of the year - 268 U.S. dollars. This is an acceptable and balanced price,” Yatsenyuk said.

He reiterated Kiev’s readiness to “make all payments for the previous gas supplies” and was waiting for Russia’s reply.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
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Since when does the person not paying their creditors/suppliers get to dictate their pricing options?
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15:51 05.04.2014 Interfax-Ukraine
SBU exposes armed group plotting armed seizure of power in Luhansk region



Ukraine's Security Service (SBU) has detained in Luhansk region an armed sabotage group of 15 people who planned an armed seizure of power in the region.

As the results of a large-scale special operation, the SBU detained 15 active members of a sabotage ring, seized 300 machineguns, one anti-tank grenade launcher, five pistols, Molotov cocktails and a large amount of smooth-bore guns and cold steel weapons.

[link to en.interfax.com.ua]
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Today, Svoboda holds a larger chunk of its nation's ministries (nearly a quarter, including the prized defense portfolio) than any other far-right party on the continent. Ukraine's deputy prime minister represents Svoboda (the smaller, even more extreme "Right Sector" coalition fills the deputy National Security Council chair), as does the prosecutor general and the deputy chair of parliament -- where the party is the fourth-largest. And Svoboda's fresh faces are scarcely different from the old: one of its freshmen members of parliament is the founder of the "Joseph Goebbels Political Research Centre" and has hailed the Holocaust as a "bright period" in human history.


Anybody expect this inquiry to be objective???

Yeah, Putin is new Hitler, right!!!
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Hitler was socialist. Putin is more on the left than Svodoba/Right Sector. You had too much Antifascist NOB "education" in your youth and now everything is upside down in your little "antiNazi" head.
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Sun will you go on the record and say no troops will enter Ukraine over the next few weeks/months?
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Ukraine ready to buy Russian gas for USD 268 per 1,000 cm

Economy April 05, 23:07 UTC+4

KIEV, April 05, 21:49 /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine is ready to buy Russian natural gas at a price of 268 U.S. dollars per 1,000 cubic metres, parliament-appointed Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk said on Saturday, April 5.

He said Ukraine “does not accept” Russia’s decision to raise the price of gas from April 1 and regards it as “political pressure”.

“Political pressure will not pass. We do not accept the price of 500 U.S. dollars. Ukraine is ready to continue buying natural gas at the price that was in effect since the beginning of the year - 268 U.S. dollars. This is an acceptable and balanced price,” Yatsenyuk said.

He reiterated Kiev’s readiness to “make all payments for the previous gas supplies” and was waiting for Russia’s reply.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56397876


Since when does the person not paying their creditors/suppliers get to dictate their pricing options?
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It's called "bargaining". Do you buy shit at any price that is offered to you?
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Ukraine ready to buy Russian gas for USD 268 per 1,000 cm

Economy April 05, 23:07 UTC+4

KIEV, April 05, 21:49 /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine is ready to buy Russian natural gas at a price of 268 U.S. dollars per 1,000 cubic metres, parliament-appointed Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk said on Saturday, April 5.

He said Ukraine “does not accept” Russia’s decision to raise the price of gas from April 1 and regards it as “political pressure”.

“Political pressure will not pass. We do not accept the price of 500 U.S. dollars. Ukraine is ready to continue buying natural gas at the price that was in effect since the beginning of the year - 268 U.S. dollars. This is an acceptable and balanced price,” Yatsenyuk said.

He reiterated Kiev’s readiness to “make all payments for the previous gas supplies” and was waiting for Russia’s reply.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56397876

In a way it is a bit ironic. Yakunovych concluded the EU Association Agreement and IMF loan would be awful for Ukraine (its people and its economy) and was trying to negotiate with both EU and Russia; EU steadfastly refused to this arrangement, declaring "it's EU exclusively or the highway", refusing to negotiate in tripartite talks and refusing to re-consider its "deal package". Yakunovych took the highway and took a (quite good for Ukraine) deal with Russia, which was premised on a number of conditions, which Ukraine accepted.

US/EU almost immediately began agitating for Yanukovych's ouster.
After the coup, the new government, appointed by the US, decided to move hard toward EU and flip off Russia. The (unelected) government has accepted all of the IMF's demands and signed the political portion of the EU Association Agreement, and spurned Russia.

But now they want only to blame Russia for their problems. EU had nothing to do with it.

It's really comical. I wonder how many Ukrainians are falling for it .... Probably many of the ones who have been distracted by the propaganda of Russian troops massed for invasion .... People who are full of hate and fear tend not to think rationally or objectively.
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Thanks that's a really good take on the situation.
I hate the EU. As much as I find Russia aggressive and as much as I dislike many of Putin's policies I suspect Ukraine would have been better off under Russian control than under the control of the EU and the IMF. The EU is going to collapse one day and the IMF are not to be trusted.

I'm not anti-immigration but so important is the issue of EU membership that I really have no other option than to vote UKIP in the coming EU election and maybe even in next year's general election. Hardly anyone here in the UK follows what's going on in Brussels. Even the politics geeks yawn. How can a government like that have the power to take our money and tell us what to do? For there to be true democracy the general public needs to be able to engage in some way with what's going on in government. The EU just doesn't work.
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MOI readiness doesn't mean that Russia is going to invade Ukraine, it means that there may be widespread disturbances within the Russian Federation soon.
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There will not be widespread disturbances within the Russian Federation. That is what you want it to mean. Vladimir Putin has an 80% approval rating now because he is standing up to American aggression in Ukraine. Do you remember what happened to George Bush's approval rating after 911? How long did it take after 911 for the US to invade Afghanistan? Most Russians favor an invasion of Ukraine. The logical reason that the interior ministry troops' readiness has been increased is that an invasion of Ukraine is coming.
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Ukraine ready to buy Russian gas for USD 268 per 1,000 cm

Economy April 05, 23:07 UTC+4

KIEV, April 05, 21:49 /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine is ready to buy Russian natural gas at a price of 268 U.S. dollars per 1,000 cubic metres, parliament-appointed Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk said on Saturday, April 5.

He said Ukraine “does not accept” Russia’s decision to raise the price of gas from April 1 and regards it as “political pressure”.

“Political pressure will not pass. We do not accept the price of 500 U.S. dollars. Ukraine is ready to continue buying natural gas at the price that was in effect since the beginning of the year - 268 U.S. dollars. This is an acceptable and balanced price,” Yatsenyuk said.

He reiterated Kiev’s readiness to “make all payments for the previous gas supplies” and was waiting for Russia’s reply.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56397876


Since when does the person not paying their creditors/suppliers get to dictate their pricing options?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55875488


It's called "bargaining". Do you buy shit at any price that is offered to you?
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Utilities don't bargain. This isn't Mexico. (or Croatia lol) Credit cards don't bargain. Loan and mortgages don't bargain. I will though call Hydro and tell them I don't want to pay their prices, we should negotiate. I will then stock up on kerosene or I am going to fucking freeze in the dark.

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Yes, Russia re-unified with Crimea without a single casualty (inflicted by either military)
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Most sources put it at 2 Ukrainian deaths.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux

What sources? (Not speaking about the civilian sniper.)
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56397876

I should have written "not including the alleged civilian sniper". See [link to voiceofrussia.com]

Crimean authorities and Ukrainian military are still investigating the incident. Last I think that came out on March 19 was a press conference by the Crimean Prosecutor Natalia Poklonskaya who said they did not have a suspect but did also comment that it looked like it was the same sniper from a building across the street who shot both the Ukrainian and the pro-Russian forces.

[link to ruptly.tv]
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Ukraine ready to buy Russian gas for USD 268 per 1,000 cm

Economy April 05, 23:07 UTC+4

KIEV, April 05, 21:49 /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine is ready to buy Russian natural gas at a price of 268 U.S. dollars per 1,000 cubic metres, parliament-appointed Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk said on Saturday, April 5.

He said Ukraine “does not accept” Russia’s decision to raise the price of gas from April 1 and regards it as “political pressure”.

“Political pressure will not pass. We do not accept the price of 500 U.S. dollars. Ukraine is ready to continue buying natural gas at the price that was in effect since the beginning of the year - 268 U.S. dollars. This is an acceptable and balanced price,” Yatsenyuk said.

He reiterated Kiev’s readiness to “make all payments for the previous gas supplies” and was waiting for Russia’s reply.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56397876


Since when does the person not paying their creditors/suppliers get to dictate their pricing options?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55875488


It's called "bargaining". Do you buy shit at any price that is offered to you?
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With $2 Billion unpaid, they have 0 leverage to bargain
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Where the Fascists Are

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"The claim that last month’s democratic revolution in Ukraine was actually driven by ultra-right extremists, fascists, or even “neo-Nazis” has been a staple of Kremlin propaganda. It is also echoed by Westernpunditswho think that Vladimir Putin is getting a bum rap and the United States is backing the bad guys in this conflict. It is true that far-right nationalists are a troubling, though by no means dominant, presence on Ukraine’s political scene and a potential problem for the new leadership’s quest for European integration. But the cries of “fascism” from Moscow and its apologists are breathtakingly hypocritical, considering the Putin regime’s entanglement with far-right, ultranationalist and, yes, fascist elements at home and abroad.

...

Umland’s 2009 article on Dugin and creeping Russian fascism ended with the eerie prediction: “Should Dugin and his followers succeed in further extending their reach into Russian high politics and society at large, a new Cold War will be the least that the West should expect from Russia, during the coming years.” Perhaps fascism has indeed won—and not in Ukraine."
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15:51 05.04.2014 Interfax-Ukraine
SBU exposes armed group plotting armed seizure of power in Luhansk region



Ukraine's Security Service (SBU) has detained in Luhansk region an armed sabotage group of 15 people who planned an armed seizure of power in the region.

As the results of a large-scale special operation, the SBU detained 15 active members of a sabotage ring, seized 300 machineguns, one anti-tank grenade launcher, five pistols, Molotov cocktails and a large amount of smooth-bore guns and cold steel weapons.

[link to en.interfax.com.ua]
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Today, Svoboda holds a larger chunk of its nation's ministries (nearly a quarter, including the prized defense portfolio) than any other far-right party on the continent. Ukraine's deputy prime minister represents Svoboda (the smaller, even more extreme "Right Sector" coalition fills the deputy National Security Council chair), as does the prosecutor general and the deputy chair of parliament -- where the party is the fourth-largest. And Svoboda's fresh faces are scarcely different from the old: one of its freshmen members of parliament is the founder of the "Joseph Goebbels Political Research Centre" and has hailed the Holocaust as a "bright period" in human history.


Anybody expect this inquiry to be objective???

Yeah, Putin is new Hitler, right!!!
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Hitler was socialist. Putin is more on the left than Svodoba/Right Sector. You had too much Antifascist NOB "education" in your youth and now everything is upside down in your little "antiNazi" head.
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Not more than those near Kumrovec!
Upside down or not, wait for the new austerity measures to pay the Ukrainian bankruptcy!
Nice work, Pavelicu!
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Re: UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387
It is reported that there are 12000 people in Crimea infected with HIV. And Russia is going to stop the Methadone treatment program which will cause big problems for some 800+ drug addicts. I wonder how many of them voted to go to Russia?
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Its very interesting to compare with my country. Same population, around 10k junkies but only 500 registered HIV positive.
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That's because Slovenia is full of Bosnians who put condom on before injecting drugs
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Its same in Croatia. Although you got even more junkies(more pop.) but only few hundred HIV registered.
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Ukraine ready to buy Russian gas for USD 268 per 1,000 cm

Economy April 05, 23:07 UTC+4

KIEV, April 05, 21:49 /ITAR-TASS/. Ukraine is ready to buy Russian natural gas at a price of 268 U.S. dollars per 1,000 cubic metres, parliament-appointed Prime Minister Arseny Yatsenyuk said on Saturday, April 5.

He said Ukraine “does not accept” Russia’s decision to raise the price of gas from April 1 and regards it as “political pressure”.

“Political pressure will not pass. We do not accept the price of 500 U.S. dollars. Ukraine is ready to continue buying natural gas at the price that was in effect since the beginning of the year - 268 U.S. dollars. This is an acceptable and balanced price,” Yatsenyuk said.

He reiterated Kiev’s readiness to “make all payments for the previous gas supplies” and was waiting for Russia’s reply.

[link to en.itar-tass.com]
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Since when does the person not paying their creditors/suppliers get to dictate their pricing options?
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It's called "bargaining". Do you buy shit at any price that is offered to you?
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With $2 Billion unpaid, they have 0 leverage to bargain
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Its not about bargaining, its about buying elsewhere. They are making the arrangements for that as we speak.

They can certainly pay their balance(or not, or win it in the international courts as a part of the balance for the Crimean theft) and buy gas elsewhere.
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Yes, Russia re-unified with Crimea without a single casualty (inflicted by either military)
 Quoting: Sun_dancer


Most sources put it at 2 Ukrainian deaths.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux

What sources? (Not speaking about the civilian sniper.)
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[link to www.bbc.co.uk]
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You are using the BBC as a source? This is the same organization that said building 7 had collapsed when it hadn't actually collapsed yet.
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why are people still believing tis loggool tard


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